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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/4/2006 5:42:26 AM | message detail
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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/4/2006 5:44:46 AM | message detail
"And i knew Pokemon would win, never doubted it, and i still believe its going to take Metroid down aswell"


Are you serious? Kirby is a much stronger opponent than Pokemon. If Metroid gets out of the first round (which it easily will), then Pokemon doesn't stand a chance. I'd be honestly surprised if Pokemon does much better than Star Ocean is doing today.

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cyko | Posted 7/4/2006 5:45:21 AM | message detail
congrats to HM for being the first one eliminated in the Guru Contest!!

oh, and i think Tranny or someone was looking for this poll last topic:

Which Nintendo game series is your all-time favorite?

Donkey Kong 2.86% 363
F-Zero 1.31% 166
Fire Emblem 1.07% 136
Legend of Zelda 50.05% 6358
Metroid 11.53% 1465
Pokemon 6.63% 842
StarFox 2.16% 274
Super Mario 24.4% 3100
TOTAL VOTES 12704


yeah, Pokemon was still Nintendo's #4 series, still quite a ways behind Metroid. i also find it amusing that Zelda broke 50% against EVERY NINTENDO SERIES COMBINED. it could still take Final Fantasy. =P

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Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 7/4/2006 5:47:06 AM | message detail
Also am I the only one who wants to see Link vs Mario 2 in the Summer Contest? It would be interesting to see how badly Mario gets beaten. Besides I'm sick of Mario vs Crono.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/4/2006 5:47:12 AM | message detail
That poll also might put the squeaks of SMB > FF to rest as well.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 7/4/2006 5:48:21 AM | message detail
I want to see Samus/Crono and One of Clinkeroth vs. Snake, as one is debated hotly (though I don't see why - Samus would win), and it'd be interesting to see the gap between the strongest NN character and the weakest NN character.
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DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/4/2006 7:14:00 AM | message detail
"Neverwinter Nights sucked IMO. I played it before playing the BG games, and I liked the BG games better. NWN had good gameplay but the plot was just awful. It had the lamest villains I can think of in an RPG."

Go download some player-created content. Stephan Gange's Hex Coda is easily the match for BGII.
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 7/4/2006 7:31:22 AM | message detail
So far so good. Pokemon is gonna double Star Ocean? Wow... never expected that. I would have been impressed with it just cracking 60%, so exceeding 65% with the day vote to come is great. I will be extremely interested to see how Kirby does tomorrow. I mean, it should get doubled, but if it does not, Pokemon may not get whalloped.

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meche313 | Posted 7/4/2006 7:32:08 AM | message detail
I believe the day vote is here and is obviously favoring Pokemon.
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 7:34:26 AM | message detail
the question is, does Pokeman have a shot at Metroid
Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 7:36:05 AM | message detail
HAHAHAHAHA

Ow, man, I needed it. Pokémon over Metroid... man, that's dumb.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/4/2006 7:49:21 AM | message detail
*COMPARISONS GAME- (2) Metroid vs. (7) Kirby*

Sales

Kirby hasn't sold well since Kirby's Dreamland and KDL2. Metroid, on the other hand, just becomes more and more popular--Prime is one of the best-selling games on the Cube, and I know the original on the NES sold several million. Metroid is the likely victor here.

Advantage: Metroid

Hype

Metroid:

Fairly quiet right now, since Hunters pretty much came and went. There's always a few people talking about Metroid, though, and Prime 3 will be big of course (but probably overshadowed by Twilight Princess.)

Kirby:

...Yeah. Kirby defines "niche series". Canvas Curse was his biggest release in a decade, and it still didn't make nearly as big of a buzz as any of the Metroid games.

Advantage: Metroid

Number of Games

Metroid:

Main series-

Metroid (NES, 1986)
Metroid II: Return of Samus (GB, 1991)
Super Metroid (SNES, 1994)
Metroid Fusion (GBA, 2002)
Metroid Prime (GC, 2002)
Metroid Zero Mission (GBA, 2004)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (GC, 2004)

Spinoffs/ports-

Metroid (FDS, 1986)
Classic NES Series: Metroid (GBA, 2005)
Metroid Prime Pinball (DS, 2005)
Metroid Prime Hunters (DS, 2006)

Total: 11
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Kirby:

Main series-

Kirby's Dream Land (GB, 1992)
Kirby's Adventure (NES, 1993)
Kirby's Dream Land 2 (GB, 1995)
Kirby's Super Star (SNES, 1996)
Kirby's Dream Land 3 (SNES, 1997)
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (N64, 2000)
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land (GBA, 2002)
Kirby & the Amazing Mirror (GBA, 2004)
Kirby: Canvas Curse (DS, 2005)

Spinoffs/ports-

Kirby's Pinball Land (GB, 1993)
Kirby's Dream Course (SNES, 1995)
Kirby's Avalanche (SNES, 1995)
Kirby's Block Ball (GB, 1995)
Kirby's Star Stacker (GB, 1997)
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble (GBC, 2001)
Kirby Air Ride (GC, 2003)

Total: 16

Advantage: Kirby

GameFAQs Status

Number of FAQs:

Metroid:

Metroid- 12
Metroid II: Return of Samus- 5
Super Metroid- 25
Metroid Fusion- 21
Metroid Prime- 31
Metroid Zero Mission- 25
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes- 25
Total- 144

Kirby:

Kirby's Dream Land- 9
Kirby's Adventure- 7
Kirby's Dream Land 2- 8
Kirby's Super Star- 18
Kirby's Dream Land 3- 4
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards- 10
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land- 14
Kirby & the Amazing Mirror- 5
Kirby: Canvas Curse- 9
Total- 84

Advantage: Metroid
Phediuk | Posted 7/4/2006 7:49:58 AM | message detail
Average review score/Number of reviews:

Metroid:

Metroid- 8.48 (40)
Metroid II: Return of Samus- 7.66 (38)
Super Metroid- 9.47 (53)
Metroid Fusion- 8.48 (60)
Metroid Prime- 9.25 (103)
Metroid Zero Mission- 8.47 (55)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes- 8.93 (72)
Series average- 8.53 (421)

Kirby:

Kirby's Dream Land- 7.54 (28)
Kirby's Adventure- 9.52 (31)
Kirby's Dream Land 2- 8.70 (20)
Kirby's Super Star- 9.30 (40)
Kirby's Dream Land 3- 6.67 (12)
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards- 7.81 (32)
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land- 8.35 (37)
Kirby & the Amazing Mirror- 8.68 (22)
Kirby: Canvas Curse- 9.31 (45)
Series average- 8.43 (267)

Advantage: Metroid/Metroid

Board activity:

Metroid's boards are pretty quiet these days, but Kirby's are practically non-existent.

Advantage: Metroid

Board Odds Project

Match prediction:

Metroid- 129
Kirby- 4

Obviously favoring Metroid.

Advantage: Metroid

Point value:

Metroid- 365
Kirby- 6

Ouch.

Advantage: Metroid

Previous contest representation

Metroid:

SC2002-

Samus (4th)

SC2003-

Samus (7th)

Sp2004-

Metroid Prime (17th)
Super Metroid (29th)
Metroid (41st)

SC2004-

Samus (4th)

Sp2005-

Ridley (10th)
Mother Brain (19th)

SC2005-

Samus (13th)

Top 100-

Super Metroid (#24)
Metroid Prime (#29)
Metroid (#65)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (#74)

Kirby:

SC2002-

Kirby (17th)

SC2003-

Kirby (25th)

SC2004-

Kirby (30th)

SC2005-

Kirby (12th)

Advantage: Metroid

Intangibles

Everything in this match points to a Metroid victory. Add in the fact that Metroid is higher on the Nintendo pecking order than Kirby and we should have a nice dose of SFF on our hands.

Advantage: Metroid

Conclusion

Metroid's going to win, but it's difficult to predict by how much. Could be anywhere from a doubling to over 80%. I'll take the median of that and make my official guess 73%.
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 7:52:07 AM | message detail
lol Metroid is not going to get anywhere near 75% on kirby. Kirby isn't weak you know
Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/4/2006 7:52:41 AM | message detail
lol Metroid is not going to get anywhere near 75% on kirby. Kirby isn't weak you know

lol actually it kind of is it only has two relatively popular games
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/4/2006 7:54:51 AM | message detail
Have we seen the new match pic yet? (http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bse/bse04.jpg, if you haven't.) I think it's the sloppiest yet - the two main characters against a red background? Yikes. I think the others have actually been pretty good thus far, but this one is kinda lazy.

On another note, will the prominent placement of the series' main characters skew the votes at all? (I say no, or at the very least yes, but in Samus's favor.)
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 7:54:58 AM | message detail
Kirby got 58% on Tidus and nearly took down Bowser...definitely not weak
Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 7:56:35 AM | message detail
You speak of Kirby's contest accomplishments as if they held a candle to Samus'.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 7:57:15 AM | message detail
I hate my analysis for Metroid/Kirby coming up later tonight -- looking back on it, I give Kirby far too much credit. Kirby's likely gettin' doubled and very well could be worse.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 7:58:36 AM | message detail
I kinda hope Kirby gets annihilated, because if he doesn't you'll have all manners of people hyping Pokémon to beat Metroid, as if doubling cannon fodder was anything meaningful. I mean, Max Payne got a tripling once. Doesn't make him strong.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/4/2006 7:58:56 AM | message detail
The best part is Kirby being a spot above Samus in SC2k5.

Kinda a shame that Metroid, Kirby, and Pokemon are in the same fourpack. Love all those series.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/4/2006 7:58:57 AM | message detail
The X-Stats don't lie.

12 Kirby 32.06%
13 Samus 31.84

The big question is if Metroid games are more popular than Samus and if Kirby is more popular than his games.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/4/2006 7:59:51 AM | message detail
Read_Only_Thx was one second faster than me >_<
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 8:01:02 AM | message detail
Kirby got 58% on Tidus and nearly took down Bowser...definitely not weak

That's Kirby the character. Of course his games are less popular, way less popular. Metroid's got this real easy, it shouldn't even be debated.
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 8:03:09 AM | message detail
Kirby is even ahead of Metroid in the X stats. I'm not saying that is 100% accurate, Metroid will win. But Metroid definitely won't get over 70%, it will be in the 50s
Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/4/2006 8:03:26 AM | message detail
That's Kirby the character. Of course his games are less popular, way less popular.

WTF, so why is the character popular? His TV show?
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2006 8:04:07 AM | message detail
I hope Metroid only gets 50.01% tomorrow -- even if it's Pokemon/Metroid, it's at least nice to hear about a new upset becoming somewhat-reasonable this contest...

...though Metroid's still got it won.
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Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/4/2006 8:04:23 AM | message detail

WTF, so why is the character popular? His TV show?


The same reason Ness is popular now. SSB and SSBM.
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 8:04:25 AM | message detail
imo Samus as a character is way more popular than the games
Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 8:04:35 AM | message detail
From Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 11:03:09 AM | #125
Kirby is even ahead of Metroid in the X stats. I'm not saying that is 100% accurate, Metroid will win. But Metroid definitely won't get over 70%, it will be in the 50s

You're really taking the SFF beatdown of Mario on Samus seriously?

What the hell are you even doing here?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 8:04:54 AM | message detail
WTF, so why is the character popular? His TV show?

No, he's just more liked for his character. Doesn't mean people appreciate his games on the same level as Metroid.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/4/2006 8:05:11 AM | message detail
I'm not even going to begin predicting this. Sure, at first it looks like a blowout, but when you factor in Metroid sucking ass when it comes to SFF and Kirby avoiding SFF against Bowser, it could be closer than people expect.

That said, I still see a blowout being more likely. Which is why I'm not gonna bother.
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Dunkeroo23 | Posted 7/4/2006 8:06:55 AM | message detail
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You're really taking the SFF beatdown of Mario on Samus seriously?

What the hell are you even doing here?


I said it's not 100% accurate, but Kirby has performed extremely well in past contests. You know what we'll see what happens tomorrow and see whos the one that shouldn't be here
Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 8:07:15 AM | message detail
From Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/4/2006 11:06:39 AM | #134
To tell you the truth Slowflake, Mario didn't SFF Samus that much, she wouldn't get more than 2% better than Solid Snake

Yes, yes she would. She'd get almost what Mario did.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 8:07:18 AM | message detail
To tell you the truth Slowflake, Mario didn't SFF Samus that much, she wouldn't get more than 2% better than Solid Snake

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, she'll go from beating Sonic from 57% to struggling with Solid Snake.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 8:08:04 AM | message detail
I said it's not 100% accurate, but Kirby has performed extremely well in past contests. You know what we'll see what happens tomorrow and see whos the one that shouldn't be here

Kirby is one thing, but his games are another.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 8:09:51 AM | message detail
My thoughts exactly. While every Nintendo character enjoys a sizeable boost, Samus plummets down. XD
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jonthomson | Posted 7/4/2006 8:31:07 AM | message detail
Match 4 - Metroid vs. Kirby

Oh yes, time to pull out the old fanboy hat and mark out like I'd just seen that Foley/Edge-Dreamer/Funk match and cared about ECW. Regulars who've ever read my posts will know that I'm a massive Metroid fan and that two of my three favourite games are from this series. You'll also remember quite how annoyed I was when Diablo knocked me off the leaderboard last Spring as if anything I'm a bigger Ridley mark, but there you go.

Kirby's been around since god knows when as well. I've never been the biggest fan, although I'm not ertyu-esque in hating Kirby either. A quick search shows a decent range of games, but nothing of the popularity of anything Metroid related, with no contest history games-wise compared to three 2004 entrants and four top 100 appearances.

Kirby won't be disgraced here at all. Kirby as a character shot up like a rocket last year, and although the two series share hardware, there won't be much SFF if any (reverse, anyone?), as Metroid sucks when it comes to SFFing and being SFF'ed (see Mario-Samus, SM-LttP etc) and is a clear third strongest series Nintendo-wise. However, Metroid will be in no trouble and can book an easy enough passage into round 2.

Bracket says: Metroid
Favourites bracket says: Metroid
Vote says: Metroid
Prediction: Metroid with 64.37%

Fun fact of the day: jonthomson was away from a computer for a 24-hour period for the first time in almost forever during the Ridley/Diablo match. So desperate was he to find the results, he rang his folks to get the latest score and the outcry at hearing "Ridley 42%" could be heard in several counties.
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Phediuk | Posted 7/4/2006 8:35:02 AM | message detail
So desperate was he to find the results, he rang his folks to get the latest score

I had to read that twice.
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/4/2006 8:44:44 AM | message detail
This is on pace for 116k votes.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/4/2006 8:46:14 AM | message detail
Yes, she'll go from beating Sonic from 57% to struggling with Solid Snake.

Just you wait ...

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Tediz247 | Posted 7/4/2006 8:57:56 AM | message detail
Predictable Board 8. Just yestersay, Pokemon was going to struggle with this match. Now, it's a serious threat to Metroid and yesterday never happened.

Anyway, glad to see Pokemon doing so well, but dispatching fodder is always unimpressive to me. It'll be interesting to see where it ranks, especially since both Pokemon and Metroid are masters of getting SFFed >_>
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Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 8:59:10 AM | message detail
Hey, just one guy claims Pokémon can take down Metroid (in this topic, at least). Don't take him seriously.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:15:05 AM | message detail
Metroid's got this
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:17:00 AM | message detail
GTA/Warcraft is concerning me again...I see many rallies for the match already being pre-planned on this board to go and spam different places as we speak. Lets hope it amounts to nothing...
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RaidenZeroX | Posted 7/4/2006 9:19:10 AM | message detail
I'm thinking Metroid is going to win that one.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 9:33:17 AM | message detail
Oh man, seeing the n00bs go is priceless. Just now, someone claimed SSB would beat SMB because it had Link in it. And then, get it, someone said that was a GOOD POINT.

*gouges eyeballs out with a dull spoon*
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