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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:34:47 PM | message detail
Maybe it's just me, but I was sure series were inclusive of not only their games, but the characters featured in those games as well.

Squall is my second favorite character, and FF8 is by no means anywhere close to my second favorite game. Sure I enjoy the game, but just because it has a character I love doesn't mean I absolutely love the game.

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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:35:12 PM | message detail
But seriously, it's easy and very logical to assume that Mega Man is stronger than his series. He's a legend. He's older than Sonic and has had almost as much mainstream exposure.
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:35:41 PM | message detail
Nope, I can not, and after Mario Kart kicks his series's ass, you won't be able to, either.

Simply because it's not fathomable for Mega Man to draw his strength from anywhere outside of his games. If MK beats MM it'll be because of it's own merit, not MM's shortcomings.

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:36:18 PM | message detail
Hell, Mega Man's Cartoon > Sonic's. Mega Man had an appearance by ****ing X and Sigma once too.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:37:02 PM | message detail
Let's not forget that a good number of people that even KNOW Kirby were introduced via Super Smash Brothers. Sure Samus has the same problem, but it's to a much greater extent. Add the fact that Metroid's fanbase of its GAMEPLAY exceeds Kirby's, and you've got what we see here.

Who the hell likes Sonic or Mega Man for something other than their games?
MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2006 9:37:25 PM | message detail
I think Mega Man gets strength from his series.. may explain why MM couldn't SFF Zero, and why Protoman actually got in SC2k4.
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ImpactPlayer316 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:37:34 PM | message detail
sonic cartoon > all of you.

stop talking nonsense kid
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:38:15 PM | message detail
But seriously, it's easy and very logical to assume that Mega Man is stronger than his series. He's a legend. He's older than Sonic and has had almost as much mainstream exposure.


Uh, no. EVERYONE knows who Sonic is.
Slowflake | Posted 7/4/2006 9:38:21 PM | message detail
Hey, I saw someone earlier who said he liked Metroid because of the story.

>_>

<_<

OK, I got nothing.
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:38:53 PM | message detail
Yes, but MM is a legend because of his games... it's not as if he took part of a huge rivalry (ala Sonic vs. Mario) or anything even close to that. He became a legend because of his long line of games. There are plenty of characters who have been around longer than him and I'd argue are bigger icons (Donkey Kong), but they simply don't have the fanbase just like their games.

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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:39:09 PM | message detail
Ever wonder on why Mega Man does so well againist fodder.

He gets the least amount of Anti-Votes of any other character.

Mega Man is well known, people have no reason to hate him, and both Nintendo and Sony fans like him.

His games however are not strong.
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cyko | Posted 7/4/2006 9:39:31 PM | message detail
ok, so i'm mostly joking by bringing up Marvel Vs. Capcom, but there might actually be a small amount of truth to that. i mean, where the heck else did Servbot, Morrigan (besides her cleavage), and Strider get their strength from? all were MvsC2 characters that just happened to do quite well in SC2K2. *shrugs*

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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:40:24 PM | message detail
I don't know, but I really don't feel like seriously talking about 2k2.

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ImpactPlayer316 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:40:44 PM | message detail
people aren't voting on this contest based on his games. mega man series will undoubtedly have a picture of mega man in the contest pic and that is what people will vote based upon. mega man (character) = mega man (series)
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:41:09 PM | message detail
Ever wonder on why Mega Man does so well againist fodder.

He gets the least amount of Anti-Votes of any other character.

Mega Man is well known, people have no reason to hate him, and both Nintendo and Sony fans like him.

His games however are not strong.


I agree. Unlike a few of you guys, I think it's very possible for a character to be stronger than the sum of his/her/its parts. It probably isn't the case in most instances, but I do believe it's possible.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:41:18 PM | message detail
The number one sentiment I had for Mega Man before I picked up MMAC was resentment (though a lot of that was likely due to him undeservingly beating Snake and Sonic =(). It was only after getting that and playing through the games that I was like, "Oh, so this is why people like this guy."
therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:41:37 PM | message detail
But seriously, it's easy and very logical to assume that Mega Man is stronger than his series.

Or maybe Mega Man and his series are at the same strength. There could just be series that are a lot more popular. Just because Mega Man is one of the most popular characters here doesn't mean that his series is one of the most popular. I never agreed with the whole FFVII would get 55% on Link bull. The Legend of Zelda would trounce Link, without SFF. If Cloud and Sephiroth alone can be so strong, FFVII is probably way stronger.
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transience | Posted 7/4/2006 9:43:35 PM | message detail
*gets home*
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*smiles*
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therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:43:41 PM | message detail
people aren't voting on this contest based on his games. mega man series will undoubtedly have a picture of mega man in the contest pic and that is what people will vote based upon. mega man (character) = mega man (series)

Yeah, because that's exactly what is happening here with Kirby...
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ImpactPlayer316 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:44:56 PM | message detail
samus is in the pic.

SAMUS > KIRBY
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 7/4/2006 9:44:58 PM | message detail
people aren't voting on this contest based on his games. mega man series will undoubtedly have a picture of mega man in the contest pic and that is what people will vote based upon. mega man (character) = mega man (series)

Explain why Kirby's geting killed then when Kirby the character is strong as hell.
yoblazer33 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:45:21 PM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda would trounce Link, without SFF.

Obviously, but that's not really what I'm referring to. In a contest, I simply feel that Mega Man the character would have more strength than the classic Mega Man series. You know, comparatively.
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ImpactPlayer316 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:45:42 PM | message detail
because samus smashes kirby. samus is right below top tier.
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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:46:43 PM | message detail
Yeah, because that's exactly what is happening here with Kirby...

Pretty much this whole discussion was focused on how that would be true for Mega Man, but not for Kirby. The discussion started with people saying how Kirby gets strength from other sources like Smash Bros., then became about how Mega Man does not.
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:47:19 PM | message detail
I really think if this was Samus vs Kirby in a Character Contest, Kirby would be doing better.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:47:33 PM | message detail
Obviously, but that's not really what I'm referring to. In a contest, I simply feel that Mega Man the character would have more strength than the classic Mega Man series. You know, comparatively.

Well yeah, but that's because there are so many gaming series that are above Mega Man's, so it makes him look weaker overall. When it comes to characters, there aren't really that many more popular characters so he practically has to be elite.
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:48:28 PM | message detail

I agree. Unlike a few of you guys, I think it's very possible for a character to be stronger than the sum of his/her/its parts. It probably isn't the case in most instances, but I do believe it's possible.


So do I... like Kirby for example. But I don't think Mega Man is anywhere even close to that.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:49:42 PM | message detail
It's also funny to see Mega Man and Sonic compared to Kirby when they in all reality are more comparable to Samus. Before Metroid Prime came along, what made Metroid such a powerful property over Mega Man or Sonic games? Super Metroid? Don't make me laugh. It simply wasn't.
EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:50:31 PM | message detail
45 minutes into the match and we have the same exact votals from last match.

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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:51:05 PM | message detail
And 50 minutes in we're about 100 ahead.

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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:51:20 PM | message detail
Well its pretty obvious that Zero > Mega Man X and he isnt even the main character of the game. So why cant Mega Man be much greater than Mega Man the series?
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therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:51:38 PM | message detail
It's also funny to see Mega Man and Sonic compared to Kirby when they in all reality are more comparable to Samus. Before Metroid Prime came along, what made Metroid such a powerful property over Mega Man or Sonic games? Super Metroid? Don't make me laugh. It simply wasn't.

It wasn't a powerful property over Mega Man and Sonic before Metroid Prime. Who told you that? There was a reason Samus went head to head with Sonic in 2k2. She simply hadn't reached out to newer gamers outside of SSB/M.
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:51:51 PM | message detail
Before Metroid Prime came along, what made Metroid such a powerful property over Mega Man or Sonic games? Super Metroid? Don't make me laugh. It simply wasn't.

Not much; the 2002 match with Sonic kind of proves that, though. However, I doubt I'd take any Sonic or Mega Man games over Super Metroid.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:51:56 PM | message detail
Well its pretty obvious that Zero > Mega Man X and he isnt even the main character of the game. So why cant Mega Man be much greater than Mega Man the series?

Uh...what?
Janus5000 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:52:09 PM | message detail
(>;_;)>

That is all.
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NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:52:40 PM | message detail
I think Sonic games have more strength than Mega Man games. They have just been more popular recently and in the past.


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therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:52:55 PM | message detail
Well its pretty obvious that Zero > Mega Man X and he isnt even the main character of the game. So why cant Mega Man be much greater than Mega Man the series?

*sigh*
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:53:00 PM | message detail
I remember people having Kirby going a long way just because he was the only char with easy recognizable ASCII on GameFAQs.
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:53:07 PM | message detail
Well at least you won't be crying tomorrow when Metal Gear is thrashing Soul Cal--- oh.... oh god.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:53:47 PM | message detail
You don't have to take any Sonic or Mega Man games over Super Metroid. Just think about each of the series pre-Metroid Prime. Are you going to tell me that Sonic or Mega Man can't take Metroid down?
NewLib | Posted 7/4/2006 9:54:02 PM | message detail
Its hard to compare series and games but Im talking abou relative strength here. Sorry if I didnt make that clear.

Zero has more strength relative to Link than Mega Man X has to Final Fantasy/Zelda.
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:54:29 PM | message detail
I think Sonic games have more strength than Mega Man games. They have just been more popular recently and in the past.

Hey! I agree with this, too! Wow, Newlib; you and I sure on the same page tonight.
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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:54:31 PM | message detail
Well at least you won't be crying tomorrow when Metal Gear is thrashing Soul Cal--- oh.... oh god.

What...?
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EclecticCowbell | Posted 7/4/2006 9:55:13 PM | message detail

What...?


That was for Janus. >_>

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transience | Posted 7/4/2006 9:55:23 PM | message detail
this is a killing right now... don't forget how Kirby made up all that ground on Bowser in the daytime though. I'm kinda curious to see how the day vote goes.
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creativename | Posted 7/4/2006 9:56:06 PM | message detail
Super Metroid? Don't make me laugh. It simply wasn't.

I think you underestimate Metroid pre-Prime.

Super Metroid probably would've been able to challenge, if not beat, any Sonic game back then. And I think it would've been any Mega Man game.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/4/2006 9:56:08 PM | message detail
Zero has more strength relative to Link than Mega Man X has to Final Fantasy/Zelda.

Much better. About time somebody finally says it right!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/4/2006 9:56:12 PM | message detail
Metroid just keeps going up though...
Janus5000 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:56:13 PM | message detail
Well at least you won't be crying tomorrow when Metal Gear is thrashing Soul Cal--- oh.... oh god.

That's because that won't happen tomorrow !!
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CountCrazy007 | Posted 7/4/2006 9:56:16 PM | message detail
500? Please please please
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