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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 299

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shadow8021 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:18:58 PM | message detail
Did Star Ocean ever have Burger King toys and theatrical releases? I think not.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 9:19:06 PM | message detail
Closet beasts? C'mon, people. What in this bracket do you honestly think Pokemon beats that isn't pure crap?
Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/3/2006 9:19:20 PM | message detail

Thats the thing....they're both pretty obscure yoblazer. So how does Xenogears happen to have a bigger one?


Xenogears was a huge commodity on the used market and it probably had a resurgence of interest when Xenosaga came out.
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 7/3/2006 9:19:43 PM | message detail


Yeah, seriously. I mean, I bet that Pokemon game could ev- oh wait.


^5 IMO

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:20:13 PM | message detail
Xenogears is Squaresoft. Star Ocean isn't. How is this hard to understand? Every single non-Square RPG anything has proven to be total crap in these contests.

(Well besides Pokemon, oddly enough =p)

And no, SO3 is not Square.

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Janus5000 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:20:13 PM | message detail

Why is this a surprise? Board 8 has always overrated the living hell out of RPG entities in these contests. If you're a non-Square RPG anything in these polls, you're probably going to end up fodder.


Kinda ironic that this is right after MMX disappointed against an RPG entity.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 9:20:30 PM | message detail
Pokemon is 70% on Star Ocean! NINTENDO BOOST REDUX
DeepHyren12 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:20:59 PM | message detail
"There's very little difference between the two (Pikachu and Pokemon) in the eyes of the voting audience."

I disagree completely. Pikachu represents everything everyone hates about pokemon: the overexposed, marketing, cuddly-cute image. That's what causes pokemon to be anti-voted so much. When you say pikachu, people think about the horrid TV show and massive marketing campaigns. When you say pokemon, people remember the nostalgic times battling their friends over lunch, desperately trying not to get caught by the teachers.

And, judging by the poll right now, I'd say I'm correct.
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 7/3/2006 9:21:04 PM | message detail
It's under 70! Yes, I'm going to take solice in the fact that it avoids the doubling. This is a sad, sad day for my bracket.

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Who Cares? | Posted 7/3/2006 9:21:07 PM | message detail
Yeeeeah, so I guess we can forget the idea of ever seeing Fayt in the character contest. Atleast SO finally got to see a contest I guess. >_>
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Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/3/2006 9:21:09 PM | message detail

Kinda ironic that this is right after MMX disappointed against an RPG entity.


Well, to be fair, it only "disappointed" in the sense that it fell 2.5% short of a tripling.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/3/2006 9:21:57 PM | message detail
Another dip in percentage, but the percentage of votes Pokemon is getting each update has been increasing. That update, it got 69.17% of the vote.

Pokemon should be comfortable from here on out, even if it completely bombs the day vote.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:11 PM | message detail
Kinda ironic that this is right after MMX disappointed against an RPG entity.

LOL MARIO KART IS GOING TO WIN NOW.

I love the stats topic during contest season. I bet half of you already have the rest of the contest's results mapped out in your heads down to within a couple percents on each match.

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NewLib | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:15 PM | message detail
Wow Star Ocean is pathetic. Seriously never thought Suikoden would be stronger.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:21 PM | message detail
Holy crap. I knew Pokemon was still going to win. But DAYAM
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:33 PM | message detail
For history's sake, did Pokemon do better or worse against Xenogears during the day?

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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:40 PM | message detail
But come on Ulti, the only marketing Squaresoft really did for Xenogears was what, a demo in Brave Fencer Musashi? Yeah...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:40 PM | message detail
Yeah, Squall totally disappointed against Geno.

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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:22:41 PM | message detail
Thats the thing....they're both pretty obscure yoblazer. So how does Xenogears happen to have a bigger one?

It's a better game? I can't really tell you for sure, since I've never completed a Japanese RPG in my life (unless you count Pokemon). All I know is that I've heard people talk about Xenogears for years, and the first time I've ever actually noticed someone mention Star Ocean was when HM began arguing for it.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 9:23:31 PM | message detail
Heh, aye, I understand.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 7/3/2006 9:23:36 PM | message detail
...holy crap. 0_0

...that's my contribution to today, folks. Have fun!
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 7/3/2006 9:24:01 PM | message detail
I should have known that yoblazer is infallible aside from one match a contest. ;_;

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Who Cares? | Posted 7/3/2006 9:24:17 PM | message detail
Xenogears is Squaresoft. Star Ocean isn't. How is this hard to understand? Every single non-Square RPG anything has proven to be total crap in these contests.

Indeed! I know the Villains Contest was crap, but I'd like to think Vergil/Ghaleon, Wesker/Luca, & Bison/Albedo showed us at least that much.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 9:24:36 PM | message detail
Yeah, Squall totally disappointed against Geno.

Well, did he beat Magus??? That's right, I DON'T THINK HE DID
Eggplant Lord | Posted 7/3/2006 9:25:18 PM | message detail
I suppose it wasn't the smartest thing to do to doubt Pokemon's place in this contest. Pokemon is a franchise and a legend: its name should be stronger than any individual element of its universe.

Oh well.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 9:26:09 PM | message detail
Okay. That does it.

NOMINATE MEWTWO FOR THE FALL CONTEST.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/3/2006 9:26:52 PM | message detail
I don't get it though Ulti. Whats the difference between how Xenogears can have strength, but not SO?

BLATANT ANALYSIS PLUG!

2. Speaking of Xenogears, people seem to forget that it was in an SFF match with FFVII. People see that it got a solid 19.97% and assumed that it probably didn’t get SFF’d at all. Look closer. Xenogears and FFVII were simultaneous Square projects on the PSX. With most of Square’s resources going to FFVII, Xenogears was delayed. Parasite Eve was the next big Square hit for the PSX. Parasite Eve came with a Xenogears demo. Xenogears was released later that year. Given FFVII’s immense popularity then, most people who bought Xenogears were undoubtedly people who bought or at least played FFVII. They pretty much share the exact same fanbase. As for Xenogears’ sales numbers, those are a bit skewed since Xenogears wasn’t mass-produced. It became a commodity on the used market, and the demand for the game became so great that Square re-released it as a greatest hit 3 years later. Xenogears didn’t beat Pokemon because of Pokemon’s weakness. It was due to Xenogears’ strength. Xenogears and Pokemon G/S/C are most likely underrated in the SpC2k4 stats.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 9:28:58 PM | message detail
Geez, this is like when Master Hand tearassed into Kuja and you were all fantasizing on how strong it was and how it would take the four-pack.

REALITY CHECK

1.) Metroid will KILL Pokemon (just for anyone that needed it).

2.) Pokemon loses to Xenogears in any shape or form. Yeah, the whole series loses to it.

3.) Pokemon loses to everything that isn't a 7 or 8 seed in this contest aside from Fire Emblem, Silent Hill, and possibly The Elder Scrolls. It also loses to multiple 7/8 seeds.

It's not strong. SO is weak.
charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:28:59 PM | message detail
NOMINATE MEWTWO FOR THE FALL CONTEST.

If I win that's who I'll make everyone nominate
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:29:41 PM | message detail
BLATANT ANALYSIS PLUG!

Yoblazer’s Analysis

The third contest match is the first one that's actually been the focus of debate. Hmm... maybe if we didn't have ONE GUY WHO DOES THIS FOR EVERY SINGLE CONTEST, we could devote more time to other, better matches. Ah well, I guess it's contest tradition by now.

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/3/2006 9:29:58 PM | message detail
NOMINATE MEWTWO FOR THE FALL CONTEST.

You know...I think I will. If I have an extra spot that is.
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yoblazer33 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:30:29 PM | message detail
And there goes my professionalism. I'm sorry again, HM.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:30:36 PM | message detail
From longbladeofhiko Posted 7/4/2006 12:22:40 AM #317
But come on Ulti, the only marketing Squaresoft really did for Xenogears was what, a demo in Brave Fencer Musashi? Yeah...

Were you alive during the late 1990s? Square was so dominant in the market due to FF7 that even their crappy games sold like hotcakes.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 9:30:37 PM | message detail
Wow, Pokémon's percentage just went UP.
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I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens!
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 9:31:14 PM | message detail
**** me.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/3/2006 9:31:22 PM | message detail
Holy crap, pokemon actually gained percentage that update. Looks like it's finally stabilized just under the 70% mark.
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NewLib | Posted 7/3/2006 9:31:30 PM | message detail
Pokemon will finish above 70%. I assure it!
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Draco1214 | Posted 7/3/2006 9:31:37 PM | message detail
Oh man, double SFF is gonna do wonders to SO's X-stats value.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/3/2006 9:31:57 PM | message detail
Were you alive during the late 1990s? Square was so dominant in the market due to FF7 that even their crappy games sold like hotcakes.

*bought nearly every Square game after FFVII*

Hey, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, and Brave Fencer Musashi were gems!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:11 PM | message detail
Were you alive during the late 1990s? Square was so dominant in the market due to FF7 that even their crappy games sold like hotcakes.

I wasn't 10 till about 99 so I didn't pay much attention to the market :P

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:30 PM | message detail
**** me.

Pikachu's got you covered. =P
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Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:39 PM | message detail
Okay. I've seen so much stupidity on the board already, I'm off to bed.
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I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens!
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:39 PM | message detail
Hey, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, and Brave Fencer Musashi were gems!

Your damn right they were!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:50 PM | message detail
If I win that's who I'll make everyone nominate

I'm right there with you, bud. Mewtwo is my new Guru fantasy pick.

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ApplesauceSign | Posted 7/3/2006 9:32:55 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: SO will finish below Tanner.






Okay, so I'm not really serious, but god DAMN.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 7/3/2006 9:33:04 PM | message detail
Oh man, double SFF is gonna do wonders to SO's X-stats value.

X_x

0.5%.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/3/2006 9:33:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, SO's vote totals each update are decreasing. Pokemon's aren't so stable yet.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 9:33:37 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter, can you get on AIM for a second?

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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/3/2006 9:34:01 PM | message detail
Okay. I've seen so much stupidity on the board already, I'm off to bed.

I actuallyjust realized that I haven't wandered outside this topic since the match started. The board must be in chaos right now.
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AsurasKordoth | Posted 7/3/2006 9:34:06 PM | message detail
A bit late for this, but... Wtf 10k people thought MMX would lose? Were there really that many favorite brackets?
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