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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 299
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| Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 1:32:29 PM | message detail |
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http://cosbyvocoder2.ytmnd.com/ *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left): http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/ *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, save for three from 2002: http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists: http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251 HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html Aprosenf's Poll Script: http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt GameFAQs' Top 100 Games: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html !yawa tsoP --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| meche313 | Posted 7/3/2006 1:33:09 PM | message detail |
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MK > MM --- “Impossible is a word people use to make themselves feel better when they quit.” - Vyse Currently playing: Zelda: Alttp, Donkey Kong Country, Rogue Squadron II. Resident Evil: Code Veronica X |
| trannyscience | Posted 7/3/2006 1:33:11 PM | message detail |
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why hello there, #1! --- xyzzy |
| SephirothG | Posted 7/3/2006 1:34:53 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon > SO --- [Something clever was here before the sig wipe] http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/3/2006 1:36:52 PM | message detail |
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Go Pokemon! --- * Is Dranze * |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 1:37:34 PM | message detail |
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I think we were literally making this topic at the exact same time =p ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/3/2006 1:38:14 PM | message detail |
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Patiently awaiting Hogasm's "pokemon more like pownedkemon" topic --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Draco1214 | Posted 7/3/2006 1:39:00 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon with at least 55%. Book it! --- Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac Currently Playing - Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga, Capcom vs. SNK 2 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/3/2006 1:39:26 PM | message detail |
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BTW, I call dibs on 300 lolz ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 1:40:27 PM | message detail |
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Anyone else than you making 300 just... wouldn't make sense. Unless solar made a heroic comeback, that is. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| SephirothG | Posted 7/3/2006 1:41:43 PM | message detail |
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I vote for Black Turtle to make 300. --- [Something clever was here before the sig wipe] http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/3/2006 1:44:24 PM | message detail |
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I call 360! lolz xobox --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/3/2006 1:44:53 PM | message detail |
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I call 316 and will put some obscure wrestling reference in the first post. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| SephirothG | Posted 7/3/2006 4:42:28 PM | message detail |
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When did Lord0fDabu become a mod? --- [Something clever was here before the sig wipe] http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 4:42:51 PM | message detail |
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Nah, son. 24,000 having voted for Suikoden against Mega Man X. You're cutting them short on what they know. Oh, and Karma Hunter speaks the truth in that last post! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Lopen | Posted 7/3/2006 4:43:25 PM | message detail |
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If you love R/B/Y, you're right on board to buy G/S/C. You're a fan
of Pokemon, and you're going to buy the next installment. If you hated
R/B/Y, you're not going to be buying G/S/C because it is essentially
the same game with new Pokemon and, what, breeding? . Over exposure over exposure over exposure. It stopped becoming the "in" thing to do to buy Pokemon G/S/C. But even with that aside this is a foolish statement anyway. I liked Pokemon Blue a good deal. But I didn't like it enough to buy any more in the series. (though I won Gold in a contest, and ended up preferring it, but I digress.) Does that mean I won't vote Pokemon over quite a lot of other series? No, it doesn't. I don't have to absolutely love it to vote for it. Maybe you won't get many more "fanatical fans" that will vote Pokemon over anything, but to say that every potential Pokemon voter has to have the whole series is nonsense. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/3/2006 4:46:11 PM | message detail |
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Since the other topic is about to fill up, I'll post this here. From HM: That's what I think, too. You eventually reach a point where comparing sales is just ... meaningless. Once you're a multi-million seller, I think you've reached more than enough of this site to make it not matter anymore, especially in relation to the contests and this site like you mentioned. I think, more than any other case, sales of the less popular games make more of a difference. But in this case I'm talking about the difference between R/B/Y and G/S/C, not sales of the entire series altogether. You seem to be under the impression that anybody who is a fan of R/B/Y is also a fan of the sequels, and that is hardly the case. I'm saying that the difference in sales alone should indicate that, especially when you consider that there are a lot of younger gamers who started gaming after the release of R/B/Y. Due to the younger demographic of the series, a good chunk of those sales of G/S/C are going to be unique of R/B/Y sales. And I have seen a good chunk of those sales, at least from the Toys R Us front. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 4:46:41 PM | message detail |
| It is the truth...if MG can get past Soul Calibur in three days! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 4:47:55 PM | message detail |
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We all know Toys R Us caters to the 21+ crowd, after all! *sips on Giraffe martini* |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 4:49:05 PM | message detail |
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Over exposure over exposure over exposure. It stopped becoming the
"in" thing to do to buy Pokemon G/S/C. But even with that aside this is
a foolish statement anyway. I liked Pokemon Blue a good deal. But I
didn't like it enough to buy any more in the series. (though I won Gold
in a contest, and ended up preferring it, but I digress.) That kind of statement could be applied to anything, the two year overexposure aside. Hell, that still doesn't make any sense anyway. That just means there are Pokemon R/B/Y voters and there are Pokemon G/S/C voters. The difference is not going to be that great in their strength. Is R/B/Y going to be a little stronger? Sure. Is it going to be significantly stronger? Hell no. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| greatone10 | Posted 7/3/2006 4:50:14 PM | message detail |
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Anyone who honestly thinks anything Pokemon related will ever score 55% on any respectable opposition is crazy. Xenogears broke that percentage against G/S/C with ease. There is no way whatever strength Pokemon gains from being the entire entity (which by the way, includes every cash cow in the series) can make up for that. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 "I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!" - Manfred von Karma |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 7/3/2006 4:51:26 PM | message detail |
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You guys misunderestimate the power that Pokemon Snap will be giving the series. --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| SephirothG | Posted 7/3/2006 4:52:13 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon Snap was the only Pokemon game I ever played and liked!! --- [Something clever was here before the sig wipe] http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 4:53:04 PM | message detail |
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But in this case I'm talking about the difference between R/B/Y and
G/S/C, not sales of the entire series altogether. You seem to be under
the impression that anybody who is a fan of R/B/Y is also a fan of the
sequels, and that is hardly the case. I'm saying that the difference in
sales alone should indicate that, especially when you consider that
there are a lot of younger gamers who started gaming after the release
of R/B/Y. Due to the younger demographic of the series, a good chunk of
those sales of G/S/C are going to be unique of R/B/Y sales. And I have
seen a good chunk of those sales, at least from the Toys R Us front. Good grief. I am not saying every fan of Pokemon R/B/Y went out to buy Pokemon G/S/C. Is there a large chunk of those people who did? Hell yes. There is bound to be some "new" people to Pokemon by the time it comes out two years later. But, again, why does that speak anything about the difference in sales? It's still 11 million to 9 million. There's nothing there to imply that R/B/Y should have this big advantage over Pokemon G/S/C. Hell, it's still millions of sales of Pokemon either way. It becomes meaningless to compare them when discussing a place like GameFAQs. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Slowflake | Posted 7/3/2006 4:53:19 PM | message detail |
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But in this case I'm talking about the difference between R/B/Y and
G/S/C, not sales of the entire series altogether. You seem to be under
the impression that anybody who is a fan of R/B/Y is also a fan of the
sequels, and that is hardly the case. That is the truth. I'm one of about four people on the entire planet who like Pokémon more for its later installments. --- I do declare, old chap! Even a Doom score could not possibly justify the unwarranted combustion of kittens! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 4:54:14 PM | message detail |
| And the other three are a supercomputer! |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 7/3/2006 4:55:40 PM | message detail |
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And the other three are a supercomputer! =p --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 4:56:13 PM | message detail |
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And I'm done with the arguments for now. I'll maybe look into them
later, but with the match so close, I figure anything either side says
now will be proven right/wrong to a degree soon enough ... AND CJAYC NEEDS TO HURRY UP WITH THAT PICTURE! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 7/3/2006 4:59:05 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon > Star Ocean with at least 60%. WATCH AND BE AMAZED, YO! --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune ^5 SOWL IMHO - Explicit Content |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 4:59:39 PM | message detail |
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I'll be amazed at how incredibly wrong you are. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:03:00 PM | message detail |
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I'm trying to write my analysis, but I can't really write much into it until I see the match picture. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 5:03:44 PM | message detail |
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I think you're putting too much importance on the picture. >> BOLD PREDICTION: Star Ocean wins regardless of the picture for either side!! --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:08:28 PM | message detail |
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I think you're putting too much importance on the picture. >> What would people rather vote for, a giant Pikachu or a giant Mewtwo? --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| transience | Posted 7/3/2006 5:09:15 PM | message detail |
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I'd rather vote for the name Pokemon, personally. --- xyzzy |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/3/2006 5:10:07 PM | message detail |
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I hope there won't be a giant Pikachu, personally. --- * Is Dranze * |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/3/2006 5:10:35 PM | message detail |
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It'll be a collage of various Pokemon. Yes, Pikachu will be on it, but so will others. --- sig |
| greatone10 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:12:01 PM | message detail |
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The picture will most likely contain some of the RBY starters along with Pika. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 "I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!" - Manfred von Karma |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:12:53 PM | message detail |
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It'll be a collage of various Pokemon. Yes, Pikachu will be on it, but so will others. That will be fine, just as long as Pikachu isn't the only Pokemon in the pic. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 5:13:00 PM | message detail |
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What would people rather vote for, a giant Pikachu or a giant Mewtwo? Unless this match is really close throughout, I'm not seeing that really making much of a difference. I don't see how a picture of Mewtwo makes you want to vote for Pokemon more than Pikachu. "Oh, geez, I hate Pokemon ... but Mewtwo is there?! Oh, sign me up!" "I like Pokemon and I thin---PIKACHU?! No way. I'm not voting for that." I really don't think many people are in those two groups. Everyone will moan and groan if Pikachu is there, but is anyone going to change their vote because of it? I doubt very many are. That could, maybe, sway the people who don't care for either and vote based on picture. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Tediz247 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:14:12 PM | message detail |
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I still maintain that the picture only matters in a few situations. It
has an effect when one of the entrants is unrecognizable (Lettuce
Kefka), neither of the entrants is really cared for (KOS-MOS/Crash), or
one of the entrants is much more noticeable than the other (Pac
Man/Ocelot). Other than that, I really doubt the effect of pictures. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 5:14:47 PM | message detail |
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the big ol tag --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/3/2006 5:15:11 PM | message detail |
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The picture will most likely contain some of the RBY starters along with Pika. It'll either have the RSE starters and a couple other Pokemon from that gen or a collage of various RBY Pokemon like Mewtwo and other random Pokemon. I doubt we'll see any GSC Pokies. --- sig |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 5:15:27 PM | message detail |
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How come the ****ing pic isn't up yet >_> --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:15:49 PM | message detail |
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"Oh, geez, I hate Pokemon ... but Mewtwo is there?! Oh, sign me up!" "I like Pokemon and I thin---PIKACHU?! No way. I'm not voting for that." I really don't think many people are in those two groups. Everyone will moan and groan if Pikachu is there, but is anyone going to change their vote because of it? I doubt very many are. That could, maybe, sway the people who don't care for either and vote based on picture. That's what I'm worried about. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/3/2006 5:16:00 PM | message detail |
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BOLD PREDICTION: Star Ocean wins regardless of the picture for either side!! The SO2 fanboy in me wishes this were true HM. --- WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/3/2006 5:16:24 PM | message detail |
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Well, your wish is going to come true. --- "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing." -- Solid Snake |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 7/3/2006 5:26:26 PM | message detail |
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Quaarma Hunter's Quaint Qubandwagon Quanalysis Today's Match: Pokemon v. Star Ocean Yeah, like this match even needs an analysis. But to humor you (and because I like hearing the sound of my own voice, and if you're curious yes I talk aloud as I type, it's soothing) I'll give you one anyway. Remember, just by reading this sentence: you owe me. In the one corner, we have Pokemon! A game best known as a jack of cheap imitations. From the Fatal Frame knockoff to the Tamagotchi replica, nothing about the series is innovative nor notable. I hear they have handheld games too, but I have yet to try them (besides, those never sell well). On the other hand we have Star Ocean, which I'm assuming represents the entirety of outer space by virtue of its name. Wow, that's a lot of constitutents, as opposed to its opponent whose fans apparently like to poke each other. Yeah... Let's go on to their past contest experience. Star Ocean has never seen a contest before this one, so it automatically retains a plethora of indie cred. Pokemon on the other hand, has had its own run through the contest, so we'll focus on that. In 2k2, the OBVIOUS most popular Pokemon, Pikachu, was entered. He won a hard-fought victory against goliath Parappa the Rapper, but it turned out to be a major fluke when he got manhandled by Cloud Strife in the next round. The main character of FFVII? *snickers* The 2k3 contest was more of the same disappointments, as Pikachu returned only to lose to Fox, which totally should not have happened because TIERS DON'T EXIST IN SSB/M, M I RITE????? Pikachu would fail to return to subsequent contests, which means that it was the same deal with Star Ocean except Pikachu had no indie cred. There was also the Games Contest, where Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal went up against Xenogears. This was currently the most popular Pokemon game, as gold, silver, and crystal are obviously more popular than red, blue, and yellow. Damn primary color fanboys. Xenogears is a game that I'm DAMN sure doesn't exist, and it manhandled Pokemon anyway. Like I said, no one plays the handheld games. And of course there's the Top 100 list, where Pokemon Red and Pokemon Gold both make appearances. But where's Blue, Yellow, Silver, and Crystal on that list??? Clearly must be a split amongst the fanbase. It might have a chance if all the games were being combined here, but since it suits my argument that they are not, I'll have to go with that instead. Expect a blowout. In fact, looking at my prediction, expect a LOT more than that. Prediction: Star Ocean with 128.32% (if Ceej can do this, so can I dammit) --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| jonthomson | Posted 7/3/2006 5:27:17 PM | message detail |
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From 298: Me: There's very little difference between the two [Pokemon and Pikachu] in the eyes of the voting audience. Lopen: A bold statement. And one I don't believe for a second. One of the perks of being a moderator on a high-traffic forum means that if I post a topic, it will always get replies quickly. On asking "what's the first thing that comes into your mind when I say Pokemon", responses included: Pikachu, hentai, overrated creatures spoiling SSBM, cards, for losers, cards (again), hentai (again), the vile of all evil, Pikachu (again), gotta catch them all (a couple of times), Pikachu (again), Pikachu (again), hentai (again), overrated, several posts of generic TOS-infringing disgust. Only two people out of around fifty mentioned the games at all. Only one mentioned that the games were good and the cartoon was rubbish. Conclusions? There's enough people that automatically associate Pokemon to the cartoons, still hate the franchise, and your average voter is somewhat disturbed. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| charmander6000 | Posted 7/3/2006 5:28:12 PM | message detail |
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Voting has gone slower compared to yesterday's match, now we are on pace to only break 104k compare to 108k this morning. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| therealmnm | Posted 7/3/2006 5:33:14 PM | message detail |
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Xenogears is a game that I'm DAMN sure doesn't exist, and it manhandled Pokemon anyway. If my favorite game doesn't exist, does that mean that I don't exist? :( --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |