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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 3:09:54 PM | message detail
I really don't think it'll have any affect at all.
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Tediz247 | Posted 7/2/2006 3:10:37 PM | message detail
Today's pic was better, but this isn't bad. CJayC should have included Luca Blight, since he's the most recognizable Suikoden character. MMX should get at least 75%.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/2/2006 3:11:26 PM | message detail
Suikoden III is a good cast though >_>
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 3:17:29 PM | message detail
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SonicRaptor | Posted 7/2/2006 3:19:02 PM | message detail
I'm guessing Mega Man X with 75% as well, probably a tad more.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/2/2006 3:21:05 PM | message detail
I really don't think it'll have any affect at all.

I was talking more about fans not thinking classic Mega Man represents the entire series more than the actual pic. I was just stating that seeing how Ceej is showing Mega Man X and Zero to clearly represent the X series, I'm betting he does the same with Classic Mega Man. Maybe adding Wily or Protoman. Nonetheless, voters will know there is a difference now. There's no denying it.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 3:21:27 PM | message detail
10,000 more votes with six hours to go.


(Awesome math skills)

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swirIdude | Posted 7/2/2006 3:22:21 PM | message detail
Oh, and do you guys think higher vote totals would favor Pokemon or Star Ocean?

Pokemon, especially if the higher votals are due to advertising of the site elsewhere. What would these people more likely know, Pokemon or Star Ocean?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 3:23:48 PM | message detail
The fact that you know Pokemon does not mean you are going to vote for it.

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Master Moltar | Posted 7/2/2006 3:24:56 PM | message detail
lol wate da pic is up

X AND Zero against generic RPG chaacters? Yeah, it's going to be another ugly day tommorrow.

Wow, 90K with 5 and a half hours to go. Seems too impressive, but compared to other matches, I bet it's not (too lazy to check).

Oh, and do you guys think higher vote totals would favor Pokemon or Star Ocean?
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therealmnm | Posted 7/2/2006 3:27:21 PM | message detail
Neither. Well maybe Pokemon, but I doubt it. While more votes would bring more Pokemon fans, it would also bring more people who are indifferent and people who would antivote Pokemon. I don't think it will matter much in this instance. I don't think it would help Star Ocean though.
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Big Bob | Posted 7/2/2006 3:28:31 PM | message detail
Pokemon better have an awesome match picture.
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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 3:29:49 PM | message detail
I was talking more about fans not thinking classic Mega Man represents the entire series more than the actual pic. I was just stating that seeing how Ceej is showing Mega Man X and Zero to clearly represent the X series, I'm betting he does the same with Classic Mega Man. Maybe adding Wily or Protoman. Nonetheless, voters will know there is a difference now. There's no denying it.

That's like saying there's no denying that Suiko is only Suiko 3. I don't think you can come to that conclusion from the match pics.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/2/2006 3:32:07 PM | message detail
I was thinking something similiar mnm, that they would possibly bring in more Pokemon votes, but also its share of antivotes.

Since it's the whole series this time, and as long as we don't see Pikachu's mug on that pic, I'm hoping the votes for it outweighs the votes against. Hard for me to see Star Ocean benefitting much at all unless it's anti-votes.



BTW - If anyone wants to change any of their Crew picks, do it via AIM, seeing as how I don't remember to check my e-mail everyday.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/2/2006 3:35:12 PM | message detail
What's your AIM?

(You would be the first person I ever IM'd that I didn't know personally!)

Although I think I'm going to stick it out for one more match just to see if my theory about fodder holds. If Mega Man X gets 80% or more against Suikoden, I have some changes to make.
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Master Moltar | Posted 7/2/2006 3:36:55 PM | message detail
Master Moltar 1 (it's in my profile for further reference)

and yay me!
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therealmnm | Posted 7/2/2006 3:37:09 PM | message detail
That's like saying there's no denying that Suiko is only Suiko 3. I don't think you can come to that conclusion from the match pics.

Ummmm... of course you do know I'm talking about in addition to the two series being labeled "Mega Man X" and "Mega Man", right? I'm wondering if Ceej will even put Mega Man (Classic) to further discern them, although I doubt it since that's not really an official name.
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SephirothG | Posted 7/2/2006 3:37:30 PM | message detail
Uh... should I make a new topic?
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 3:40:21 PM | message detail
Not the best example, but when it was only registered memebrs that could vote Pokemon did better than when both members and non-members could vote when it up against Xenogears.


Oh, and the last time we have these ridiculously high vote totals (2003), Cloud won!! Huzzah!

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 3:42:02 PM | message detail
How many votes are we on track to get? 105k?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 7/2/2006 3:46:56 PM | message detail
Wouldn't it be hard to tell, since we started the vote at probably the busiest time?


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jonthomson | Posted 7/2/2006 3:51:20 PM | message detail
How many votes are we on track to get? 105k?

Might be a little lower, might be a little higher. The different time period for the poll is screwing with my mind a bit (and messing up comparisons with similar sized polls). I compared Sonic/Tifa (c. 105k in that) and we're about 5000 votes ahead of that if we look at the direct same times, but we obv got 10k more votes in the 9pm-12am EST timespan (as it's the start of the poll, not the end). I haven't a clue tbh
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SephirothG | Posted 7/2/2006 3:53:35 PM | message detail
These totals really aren't that high; Mario vs. Joanna had ~100k by the end of its match.
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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 3:57:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Zelda is raping.

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Phediuk | Posted 7/2/2006 4:03:33 PM | message detail
More like Zelda is rapping.

IT'S THE LEGEND OF ZELDA AND IT'S REALLY RAD
THOSE CREATURES FROM GANON ARE PRETTY BAD
OCTOROKS, TEKTITES, LEEVERS TOO
WITH YOUR HELP OUR HERO PULLS THROUGH
GO, LINK! *wookahwookahwookah*

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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/2/2006 4:11:43 PM | message detail
I think higher vote totals will help Silent Hill, which is much more recognizable a name than Fire Emblem.

Probably will have an effect on a couple more matches as well.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 7/2/2006 4:12:32 PM | message detail
FE/SH won't break 90,000 votes.

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swirIdude | Posted 7/2/2006 4:12:46 PM | message detail
More like Zelda is crapping.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/2/2006 4:16:31 PM | message detail
FE/SH won't break 90,000 votes.

I think it'll break 90k, but likely not 100k.

But it'll still get a lot more votes than it would've otherwise (10-20k min, I'd guess), and considering Silent Hill's recognizability compared to Fire Emblem's, it'd still be enough to skew the results in SH's favor.
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Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/2/2006 4:17:10 PM | message detail

But it'll still get a lot more votes than it would've otherwise (10-20k min, I'd guess), and considering Silent Hill's recognizability compared to Fire Emblem's, it'd still be enough to skew the results in SH's favor.


I don't think Fire Emblem is that obscure... At least, not on GameFAQs.
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Read_Only_Thx | Posted 7/2/2006 4:24:48 PM | message detail
It's main strength is in the handheld games, and handheld games do horribly in the contests. I don't think PoR is strong enough to counter the fact that SH is much more recognizable to the average gamer.

I don't even think FE's that popular in the Nintendo fanboy crowd. I definitely wouldn't put it above Pokemon or even Earthbound.

I just don't see FE having the popularity people expect it to have. I doubt half the casual voters would even know what Fire Emblem is.
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therealmnm | Posted 7/2/2006 4:53:32 PM | message detail
I don't even think FE's that popular in the Nintendo fanboy crowd. I definitely wouldn't put it above Pokemon or even Earthbound.

They still would vote it over Silent Hill, due to Roy and Marth's presence in SSBM alone. Just as its more likely for a mainly PS2 gamer to vote for Silent Hill. This will be a match of what fanbases bother to care more. In that instance, FE has the edge.
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swyg | Posted 7/2/2006 5:01:47 PM | message detail
Thats true

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charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2006 5:30:54 PM | message detail
almost at 100k
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Phediuk | Posted 7/2/2006 5:45:52 PM | message detail
And we've hit 100k with over 3 hours to go.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/2/2006 6:08:53 PM | message detail
LoZ is taking ass and kicking names.

Yeah, you heard me.
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DBZFIGHTERS | Posted 7/2/2006 6:11:47 PM | message detail
No, Zelda is under-performing.

Zelda should be able to get at least 90% of the votes, especially when it's against a PC game.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:13:15 PM | message detail
Snake can't break 90% on Manny Calavera he is so screwed against Zelda
TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 6:14:50 PM | message detail
You have no prior contest knowledge and DBZ is in your name. That's double the fail!

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Mumei | Posted 7/2/2006 6:15:40 PM | message detail
... Um. Hello.

I've been away at family functions / falling asleep all day. Relatively boring match?

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:17:09 PM | message detail
Did you not see that massive Zelda comeback?!

Civilization might try a last-rush reversal, though
Mumei | Posted 7/2/2006 6:21:57 PM | message detail
Mm. I saw that at 2AM (my time) the match looked about the same as it does now...

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:22:39 PM | message detail
Maybe you should stop being blind
Slowflake | Posted 7/2/2006 6:25:52 PM | message detail
Only 2000 votes left and Link breaks Cloud's record!
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Mumei | Posted 7/2/2006 6:26:51 PM | message detail
Maybe you should stop being blind

Hey, it's 20/20 with the glasses...

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DBZFIGHTERS | Posted 7/2/2006 6:27:01 PM | message detail
You have no prior contest knowledge and DBZ is in your name. That's double the fail!

I've been here since 2001, saw Mario get slaughtered by Link in 2002, was with the first group that saw Link upsetted by Cloud and etc.

I know very well Zelda is under-performing.

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Mumei | Posted 7/2/2006 6:27:29 PM | message detail
Also, that is the one interesting thing about this match - Cloud's 3 year record finally falling....

Probably.

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Slowflake | Posted 7/2/2006 6:28:11 PM | message detail
And I know very well Santa Claus exists.
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Mumei | Posted 7/2/2006 6:28:43 PM | message detail
Well, he does...
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