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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/2/2006 6:30:15 PM | message detail
From: Read_Only_Thx | Posted: 7/2/2006 5:16:31 PM | Message Detail
FE/SH won't break 90,000 votes.

I think it'll break 90k, but likely not 100k.

But it'll still get a lot more votes than it would've otherwise (10-20k min, I'd guess), and considering Silent Hill's recognizability compared to Fire Emblem's, it'd still be enough to skew the results in SH's favor.


People here massively overrate the casual appeal of the Silent Hill games. Silent Hill games barely sell better than Suikoden games, for god's sake. They're routinely blown away by the Hitman games. Silent Hill is not some sort of casual gaming powerhouse.

Also, whose alt are you again?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:31:23 PM | message detail
They're routinely blown away by the Hitman games.

Uh, the Hitman games are a casual MONSTER.
NewLib | Posted 7/2/2006 6:33:30 PM | message detail
So how high is this going to get. We still have 2 1/2 hours and its almost 103,000.
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Buy A Dreamcast | Posted 7/2/2006 6:35:09 PM | message detail
Probably around 106,000-107,000.
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DomaDragoon | Posted 7/2/2006 6:36:19 PM | message detail
Huh. So the pics are just crops of the covers of games in the series. I'm a bit surprised that Ceej didn't get rid of the Flame Champ, Yuiri/Yumi/Yun/whoever, Salome, and Aila from the back of the Suiko pic. He could have made the others bigger.
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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 6:37:07 PM | message detail
Except that, you know, it isn't.

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NewLib | Posted 7/2/2006 6:39:55 PM | message detail
Right now the poll is gettng around 300 votes per update. Even if it slows down to 200 votes on average the rest of the way its still over 109,000 votes its getting. I think it will bring 110,000
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Slowflake | Posted 7/2/2006 6:41:28 PM | message detail
Only 1000 votes left! It looks like the big question will be, will it break 90%, and if so, will it hold on to the end?
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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 6:42:30 PM | message detail
It looks like Zelda is gonna finish with 89.99%

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:42:55 PM | message detail
Except that, you know, it isn't.

How the hell is it not? The games are freaking called Hitman for chrissakes, and while I don't have them I'm sure the series' healthy sales can back me up on its casual support. Just because it's a good game (and a *great* stealth game) doesn't mean that it isn't casual.
NewLib | Posted 7/2/2006 6:43:24 PM | message detail
Just to note judging this based on the Games contest. Civilization right now as a series falls right ahead of Pong in rankings.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:43:50 PM | message detail
I will acknowledge the first game as being relatively obscure of course, but that's why Contracts was made.
TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 6:43:53 PM | message detail

How the hell is it not? The games are freaking called Hitman for chrissakes, and while I don't have them I'm sure the series' healthy sales can back me up on its casual support. Just because it's a good game (and a *great* stealth game) doesn't mean that it isn't casual.


That was in response to Zelda underperforming, I didn't see the new page go up so I didn't bother quoting him. You know I would never disagree with the great Quaarma!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:44:53 PM | message detail
Just to note judging this based on the Games contest. Civilization right now as a series falls right ahead of Pong in rankings.


If the Zelda series equals...the original LoZ? Or OoT or something?
Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 6:45:26 PM | message detail
wtf is QUAARMA?!?!
TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 6:46:46 PM | message detail
GAH!

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NewLib | Posted 7/2/2006 6:49:24 PM | message detail
I put the Zelda Series equal to FFVII which isnt true its most likely stronger but I didnt want to have to do a large amount of numbers
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Janus5000 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:00:17 PM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda 89.93% 94264

A NEW RECORD!

And with two hours to spare!
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/2/2006 7:00:51 PM | message detail
So, how well does everyone expect suikoden to do tomorrow. I think it'l get aroud 20-25% myself, although I wouldn't be surprised to see it bomb even worse then that.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 7:02:54 PM | message detail
18% for Suikoden tomorrow.

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Draco1214 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:03:42 PM | message detail
20-25% for Suikoden
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cyko | Posted 7/2/2006 7:04:17 PM | message detail
Suikoden should break 20%, but i doubt it will break 25% with these higher vote totals.

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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 7:04:50 PM | message detail
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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 7:04:57 PM | message detail
Zelda has received more votes than any other competitor ever, but it's underperforming!

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 7/2/2006 7:08:01 PM | message detail
Underperforming by about 2%. It is doomed against Final Fantasy.

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NewLib | Posted 7/2/2006 7:09:56 PM | message detail
Only HM would say that Zelda was underperforming after destroying a series whose strength is undetermined.
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Slowflake | Posted 7/2/2006 7:10:50 PM | message detail
He's mocking the newbie. Don't pay attention.
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Quaarma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 7:13:47 PM | message detail
Quaarma Hunter's Quaint Qubandwagon Quanalysis

Today's Match: Suikoden v. Mega Man X

Well, as Civilization rips up Zelda by what I assume is nearing a 90% blowout (I don't check the polls, or read the boards, but I'm infallible so it's all good) we move on to our next match, which is even EASIER to call. Terrible bracket Ceej, 4/5 matches are supposed to be difficult.

In one corner, we have the Suikoden games, and in the other we have the Mega Man X games. Each have got a unique entry in the character contests, and one made the game contest as well.

First, the character contest. Zero of the Mega Man X series first appeared in 2k3, where he got lucky by facing off against Scorpion in the first round. I mean, you'd imagine he'd be screwed, as who would vote nothing (i.e. Zero, get it???) over a scorpion? But it turned out it was a dude called Scorpion, and his penchant for telling the voters to get over to him was his downfall. And then Zero couldn't take advantage and lost hard to Sonic. No one likes Sonic, that's why he's a hedgehog! He performed equally poorly in 2k4, first rSFFing his way to victory over Protoman and then cheating over the massively popular Tommy Vercetti (where do you think Kefka got the idea?). But then he goes and blows it by losing to MEGA MAN. WTF is Mega Man?! Zero's a robot, how does he lose to that? Finally, in 2k5 Zero puts on his most shameful performance yet. First he has to slink by a ninja, who he only gets past because all the real ninja had money on the match, then he struggles with a kid who I'm pretty sure has some sort of mental deficiencies. And then he loses to perhaps the least known video game character of all time: MARIO. How anyone could fathom even remembering a plumber for any length of time is beyond me.

There's also Sigma, who isn't even worth discussing. First he almost loses to A FREAKING HEAD, and then loses to Bowser, which I'm convinced is some kind of spin on Inspector Gadget's catchphrase. No one likes Inspector Gadget.

On Suikoden's side, look at Luca Blight. He first appeared in 2k4, where he got tough luck with the unstoppable MAGUS in the first round. I mean, that guy is cleanly stronger than Noble Niners based on some information upon whose origins I'm not exactly sure of, that's power! And he got another shot in the Villains Contest, where he performed respectably on the incredibly popular villain of Resident Evil, Wesker.

More importantly, Suikoden II also got into the Game Contest, when NO MMX games could. Clearly Suikoden II alone has the advantage over the whole MMX series, and it only lost due to FFVII's trademark rSFF. And no one even LIKES Suikoden II and/or Luca Blight, it's all about the other games! I'm not even sure they got in over the others! Clearly all the work of Ceej's biased nominations.

And finally, in terms of sales there is only one winner: Suikoden. The series has sold hundreds of thousands of games in its lifespan. And for MMX, look at MMXC: neither the PS2 or GC versions cracked 100,000. And it's useless to look at the sales of the previous games in the series, as they're all the same games that the same people buy anyway!

Again, another easy to call match, and again I won't even bother looking. Suikoden proves it's a juggernaut with ease here.

Prediction: Suikoden with 87%
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:21:53 PM | message detail
JESUS CHRIST at these votes O_O

Zelda has a very real chance of breaking 100,000 in this poll. Voting won't slow down any time soon, thanks to the midnight start/end time.

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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 7:23:17 PM | message detail
Quaarma's analysis >>>> Analysis crew.

And yeah, this is ****ing bananas. A single entrant garnering 100,000 ****ing votes.

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/2/2006 7:26:28 PM | message detail
Well, as Civilization rips up Zelda by what I assume is nearing a 90% blowout (I don't check the polls, or read the boards, but I'm infallible so it's all good)

You just made sure I continue reading the rest of your analyses.
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:29:01 PM | message detail
O_O This poll needs an average of 290 per update for Zelda to get over 100k, but the poll is getting 589 per update.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:32:40 PM | message detail
Zelda could clear 101k with ease.

Think about this for a minute.

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TransgenderLove | Posted 7/2/2006 7:33:28 PM | message detail
Meh, so much for my Elder Scrolls pick. I seriously have no hope in it anymore now that I see these votals.

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chocoboslayer | Posted 7/2/2006 7:36:01 PM | message detail
Holy ****.

That is all.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 7/2/2006 7:37:57 PM | message detail
Has any contender, game or character ever broken 100k votes before? If so, what was it?

I can't reacall it happening before, but maybe I'm wrong.
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charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:38:11 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: LoZ will get more votes than Sonic vs. Tifa (105,858)
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:38:46 PM | message detail
No entity in a poll, ever, has even broken 95,000 votes.

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charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:39:27 PM | message detail
Has any contender, game or character ever broken 100k votes before? If so, what was it?

Nope Cloud was the closest with 94,086
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 7:39:44 PM | message detail
Uh, I'm going to go with a pretty confident fiction there. Let's not get out of hand.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 7/2/2006 7:39:52 PM | message detail
Are...are you serious? Good God my brackets screwed again.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/2/2006 7:40:19 PM | message detail
If LoZ broke 100,000 aanndd finished with 90+%, that would be incredible.

Of course, Final Fantasy could do even better against Civ.....
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Karma Hunter | Posted 7/2/2006 7:40:31 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy is so screwed
yoblazer33 | Posted 7/2/2006 7:41:52 PM | message detail
I don't think FF is quite as efficient in the fodder blasting department.
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BeTheMan | Posted 7/2/2006 7:42:02 PM | message detail
Halo/Kingdom Hearts will top 130,000 votes. Book it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:42:02 PM | message detail
Can we at least see how FF does against Diablo before declaring that it'll lose? In fairness, FF the series/namesake has dominated POTD from day one on this site.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:42:34 PM | message detail
From yoblazer33 Posted 7/2/2006 10:41:52 PM #494
I don't think FF is quite as efficient in the fodder blasting department.

It's not even close. Square gets anti-voted just enough to prevent it from breaking 90% most of the time.

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HaRRicH | Posted 7/2/2006 7:42:43 PM | message detail
Zelda 2 could beat Magus worse than the LoZ series is beating Civilization today.
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JohnMaddenIsHot | Posted 7/2/2006 7:42:56 PM | message detail
w/e
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/2/2006 7:43:03 PM | message detail
Looking at you through the glass, don't know how much time has passed....

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