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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/28/2006 12:33:02 PM | message detail
Knowing us, this'll be at 300 by the end of the first match.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
*** http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm ***

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



!yawa tsoP
jonthomson | Posted 6/28/2006 12:33:29 PM | message detail
Castlevania > KH
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Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/28/2006 12:34:03 PM | message detail
OMG ZELDA JUST GAINED A PERCENT GUYS

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"A legend is nothing but fiction. Someone tells it, someone else remembers, everybody passes it on."
Phediuk | Posted 6/28/2006 12:35:36 PM | message detail
FE > almost everything else in the contest
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Ed Bellis | Posted 6/28/2006 12:36:00 PM | message detail
UPDATE:

Legend of Zelda: 67834
Civilization: 3
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This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/28/2006 12:36:32 PM | message detail
From Phediuk Posted 6/28/2006 3:35:36 PM #004
FE > almost everything else in the contest

This man speaks truth.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 12:36:50 PM | message detail
~LIVE!~
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/28/2006 12:37:49 PM | message detail
Metal Gear > This Contest.


But speaking of FE, SSBB is in dire need of Lyn from FE7.


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"A legend is nothing but fiction. Someone tells it, someone else remembers, everybody passes it on."
red sox 777 | Posted 6/28/2006 12:38:09 PM | message detail
Magus > Squall
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/28/2006 12:38:32 PM | message detail
24 hours until the start of the game!

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"A legend is nothing but fiction. Someone tells it, someone else remembers, everybody passes it on."
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/28/2006 12:38:53 PM | message detail
But speaking of FE, SSBB is in dire need of Lyn from FE7.

Ike will be the FE swordy, most likely. Come oooon Hector!

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne
Phediuk | Posted 6/28/2006 12:38:59 PM | message detail
I just finished compiling a list of every Mario game ever released in preparation for my Comparisons Game for each match.

160 releases. 160 effing releases in the Mario series. It took me about 3 hours to make the list. >_>
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/28/2006 12:44:03 PM | message detail
Ike will be the FE swordy, most likely. Come oooon Hector!

Most likely the unfortunate truth. Not like we have not had a ton of other male swordsman before.

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"A legend is nothing but fiction. Someone tells it, someone else remembers, everybody passes it on."
dethfdddddh | Posted 6/28/2006 6:08:44 PM | message detail
http://www.kh2.co.uk/index.php?start_from=56&ucat=&archive=&subaction=&id=&

Heh at the bottom......do you think that it made any difference at all? I'm pretty sure that it's the biggest KH fansite.
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Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch.
Master Moltar | Posted 6/28/2006 6:15:49 PM | message detail
Crew Update - I decided to scrap the Introductions, so if you sent me one, I'm not going to use it. If you didn't, don't bother with one.

Besides, everyone knows who we are anyway, right?
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Moltar Status: Eagerly awaiting for the next Contest to begin.
longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/28/2006 6:18:07 PM | message detail
MGS, MMX, Star Ocean, and Suikoden > this contest.
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
JUST LIKE UR MOM LOLO AND URS TO LALA-Tombolo
therealmnm | Posted 6/28/2006 6:23:02 PM | message detail
Crew Update - I decided to scrap the Introductions, so if you sent me one, I'm not going to use it. If you didn't, don't bother with one.

Besides, everyone knows who we are anyway, right?


:(
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
Master Moltar | Posted 6/28/2006 6:26:27 PM | message detail
Well, if you really want to post it...I guess you could.
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Moltar Status: Eagerly awaiting for the next Contest to begin.
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 6:30:09 PM | message detail
Heh heh, Sora got linked during the match with Solid Snake. Looks like Snake should've done even better, if you put any sort of weight onto fansite vote rallying.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 6/28/2006 6:39:45 PM | message detail
Heh heh, Sora got linked during the match with Solid Snake. Looks like Snake should've done even better, if you put any sort of weight onto fansite vote rallying.

I doubt it. Must I remind again what happened with Kerrigan rallying against Vincent? "Wait, she's facing Vincent from FFVII? No way I'm voting Kerrigan over him." I'd assume the same was said for Sora/Snake.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
NewLib | Posted 6/28/2006 9:39:50 PM | message detail
I think we all agree that Star Ocean is stronger than Pikmin.
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Where am I?
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:40:32 PM | message detail
You are wrong, Leonhart. So very wrong.

And you can say that without a doubt because we've had a Games Contest since then, right?

Oh wait.

But Link to the Past outdid Chrono Trigger on the list, right?

Oh wait.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:41:06 PM | message detail
And the Snake/Sora post was more in jest than anything else.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/28/2006 9:42:39 PM | message detail
You "firmly believe" that a 350 vote victory would hold up after a Nintendo voter shift. I firmly believe the opposite. Frankly, I like the view on my side of the fence.
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
Proud member of the Putty Patrol
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:43:18 PM | message detail
You can like it just as well as I like my view. I've been called wrong and ludicrous for lesser things.

Trust me, I know. I've been reading old stat topics.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:43:38 PM | message detail
We have no firm numbers on the top 10 list, either. CT could've beaten LttP by four points, or three million.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:44:05 PM | message detail
CT could've beaten LttP by four points, or three million.

Irrelevant.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:44:55 PM | message detail
Honestly, we've said that games =/= characters in terms of strength, and I still believe the "boost" would apply less to games than most people around here want to believe.

This may turn out to be surprisingly true. Look at the Top Ten List. *dodges bricks* Despite how close they were before, LttP can't ike out a place over CT (though you've got to consider how much support OoT siphoned away). The rest of the list is very balanced, no overwhelming Ninty support. Hell, most of you got bit in the ass by banking on it, and can thank Super Mario 64 for the sting.

You're crazy if you want me to consider frigging Canvas Curse as the driving force for Kirby becoming the monstrosity he was last year, and the boosts have hardly been uniform even amongst the Nintendo characters. Yeah, I'm still banking on it, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if CT ended up beating LttP by more (no doubt due to Chrono Break hype!!).
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*is Karma Hunter*
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/28/2006 9:45:21 PM | message detail
Eh, I barely ever call someone out on being "Wrong. Just wrong."

Wanted to see how it felt more than anything.
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
Proud member of the Putty Patrol
MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/28/2006 9:45:56 PM | message detail
.. 3 million? >_>
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"People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi
* Is Dranze *
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:46:23 PM | message detail
That was an exaggeration. Duh.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:46:29 PM | message detail
Except we can't say for sure who's "just wrong" here. Sure, the "odds" may be in your favor, but where's the fun in that, right?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:46:43 PM | message detail
Eh, I barely ever call someone out on being "Wrong. Just wrong."

Wanted to see how it felt more than anything.


Now that you have taken a small, somewhat justifiable step toward the dark side, forever shall it consume you!!!
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*is Karma Hunter*
therealmnm | Posted 6/28/2006 9:49:29 PM | message detail
Finishing higher on a favorites list means very little in a direct rematch in a contest setting. I don't see how you think LttP couldn't overcome a 362 vote difference.

The reason I wouldn't take FFX in a rematch against SSBM is that I think FFX probably reached its peak in popularity in 2k3/2k4. Tidus went from barely losing to Ganondorf to getting blasted by Kirby. Don't get me wrong, FFX is still strong on this site, but I don't see it coming up and beating SSBM right now. Sure, it was shafted by the match pic, but the Nintendo shift since then probably would cancel that out. I could see that match ending up about the same. Definitely not LttP/CT...
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:50:33 PM | message detail
I don't see how you think LttP couldn't overcome a 362 vote difference.

Because I enjoy being a cocky loner.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:51:25 PM | message detail
Tidus went from barely losing to Ganondorf to getting blasted by Kirby.

Okay, I'll say it: GANONDORF 2K3 IS A LOSER
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*is Karma Hunter*
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:52:12 PM | message detail
I concur. Ganondorf 2004 >> Ganondorf 2003
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:52:51 PM | message detail
Ganondorf almost lost to Magus that year, for the love of God. And we know how Magus turned out.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:53:10 PM | message detail
Almost?!
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*is Karma Hunter*
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:53:30 PM | message detail
And no, I don't want the classic "MASSIVE BOARD BACKING" excuse commonly used for Magus 2003 and Frog 2004.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/28/2006 9:53:36 PM | message detail
Heck, and you can even argue that the Nintendo shift was well under way in 2004.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:54:16 PM | message detail
Oops. Sorry. I meant to say either Ganondorf lost, or Magus almost lost. Must've combined both in a brain fart.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:54:42 PM | message detail
From LeonhartForever | Posted 6/29/2006 12:53:36 AM | #041
Heck, and you can even argue that the Nintendo shift was well under way in 2004.

Yeah, Link and Samus can testify. As well as the aforementioned Ganondorf.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
ActJef1077 | Posted 6/28/2006 9:56:14 PM | message detail
oh man, those Starcraft 2004 matches were something else

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Call me Jeff Official midget of The Book Club
If you paint a W on each of your buttcheeks and do cartwheels it will say WoW MoM WoW! -C Bar
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:56:19 PM | message detail
Damn Ganondorf. I overrated him so much, I thought he'd steamroll his fourpack with ease to a comfortable loss to Link (SFF? What's that?). I remember thinking, "Man, this would be a lot harder if G-dorf was on Sephiroth's side of the bracket!" Then he went and lost to Magus, like a LOSER. Then Magus tried to tell me it was all right in his loss to Link, but then Knuckles told me it wasn't alright, and it turned out Magus was a lousy LOSER too. Which makes Ganondorf some horrible kind of DOUBLE LOSER, which cannot be comprehended by any mind this side of Gordon Freeman.

Stay under CATS where you belong, Ganondorf~!
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*is Karma Hunter*
Slowflake | Posted 6/28/2006 9:57:28 PM | message detail
Had Magus been in the lower half of the bracket, I would've had a Link/Magus final that year. Scary.
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Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/28/2006 9:58:29 PM | message detail
I had a Link/Mario rematch in my fun bracket (couldn't enter a real one in on time). Please tell me I wasn't the only one...
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
Proud member of the Putty Patrol
Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/28/2006 9:59:42 PM | message detail
Everyone loves a Sephiroth > Cloud finals!
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*is Karma Hunter*
therealmnm | Posted 6/28/2006 10:02:28 PM | message detail
Link > Sephiroth
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
therealmnm | Posted 6/28/2006 10:03:22 PM | message detail
And Tommy V > Mega Man! The bane of my bracket! Damn Mega Man for losing to Sephiroth the year before! I still haven't forgiven him.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC