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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 295
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| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:18:39 PM | message detail |
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I dunno about you, but I'm getting more and more of that nasty
Ocelot/Pac-Man vibe about Metroid/Kirby as the days pass. I can't help
but think Kirby is just ridiculously overlooked (to the point where
POKÉMON is a more popular choice to beat Metroid), and that something
big is going to happen there. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/26/2006 1:21:16 PM | message detail |
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Why do you think that? Is there a Kirby game that can even come close to Super Metroid or Metroid Prime? --- GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! |
| Lopen | Posted 6/26/2006 1:23:07 PM | message detail |
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Would you take Kirby over Samus? I'd actually consider it, but I was
nearly laughed out of the stats topic when I asked that question. Because I'm not seeing any big reason why Samus would be stronger than Metroid, or Kirby weaker than his series for that matter. I think it'll be closer than we're giving it credit for, but if Kirby even gives a scare I'd be really surprised. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:23:12 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps not a single game, but the whole series... besides, Metroid
didn't break any records in the game contest. If the whole "gets a lot
of popularity from SSB" thing applies to Samus but not Kirby, it could
get ugly. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:24:38 PM | message detail |
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Because I'm not seeing any big reason why Samus would be stronger than Metroid And yet she is. And by a ****ing canyon at that. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:24:55 PM | message detail |
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Kirby Super Star is the only game of his series that could really
supply any power, and even then, I wouldn't expect much of that. Would you take Kirby over Samus? I'd actually consider it, but I was nearly laughed out of the stats topic when I asked that question. I wonder why, when he couldn't even beat Bowser. Honestly, Samus still pulled around 60% on Ganondorf, despite her suckiness at SFF. I can't see Kirby being some sort of exception to that rule. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:26:41 PM | message detail |
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If the whole "gets a lot of popularity from SSB" thing applies to Samus but not Kirby, it could get ugly. I think Kirby does get a good bit of popularity from Smash Brothers. Don't get me wrong. I'd still love Kirby if he'd never appeared in it, but he wouldn't be in my top 10 characters list without it. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/26/2006 1:26:43 PM | message detail |
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I think they both draw decent popularity from Melee. Simply put, I
think Metroid easily takes the SFF in this match. If you're looking for
more logical reasoning, Super Metroid trumps Kirby Superstar, and Prime
easily beats anything Kirby's had since then. --- GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK! |
| Lopen | Posted 6/26/2006 1:34:53 PM | message detail |
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And yet she is. And by a ****ing canyon at that. Says who? It's not like the games flopped, they just got painfully SFFed. And who's to say what Final Fantasy 7 would get on Link, it's ridiculous. I'm just using "common sense" here and saying Metroid is probably stronger than Samus, no stats or anything to try and back my claim, I don't think the comparisons are relevant. I wonder why, when he couldn't even beat Bowser He came really close though. And I do think Bowser would beat Ganondorf directly and do better in SFF situations, always have. I'm not taking Kirby there, but I just said I was considering it. It'd surprise, I'd bet. Give me a big new Kirby game and I might take it. And I know I'd take Kirby over Ganondorf right now. But the point of the example was, unless you'd consider Kirby over Samus, I don't know why you'd be considering Kirby over Metroid. Seems to me that the pecking order would be Metroid > Samus > Kirby >= Kirby (series). --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/26/2006 1:35:29 PM | message detail |
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Metroid didn't break any records in the game contest. Did Metroid even get a chance to spread its wings in the games contest? Look at the games it lost to. Don't forget that Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 were GotY material on this site. That's something Kirby will never come close to. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/26/2006 1:39:37 PM | message detail |
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I really see no reason to "consider" Kirby over Samus either. If he
beats Ganondorf, it's by the skin of his teeth, whom Samus beat 60/40.
He wouldn't do the same to Samus. He's not Mario or Link when it comes
to SFF, you know. Heck, even Link seemingly had difficulty getting a
lot of SFF (if any) on her. It's still debatable whether or not Kirby
even gained any sort of advantage like that against Bowser. In other words, that next Kirby game had better be a blockbuster before you think about taking him over Samus. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/26/2006 2:32:50 PM | message detail |
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I see absolutely no reason to consider Kirby over Metroid. None of the
Kirby games are even in the same ocean of popularity as the Metroid
games. Kirby has been niche since about Kirby's Super Star or so, while
Metroid has become exponentially more popular since Prime was released. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/26/2006 4:13:10 PM | message detail |
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Stop sneak peeking my write-up Phediuk. You just said one of my points almost word for word. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 6/26/2006 4:14:01 PM | message detail |
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Metroid over Kirby isn't even debatable: Metroid has it won. --- "Never argue with a fool, people may not tell the difference" - Murphy's Law |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/26/2006 4:15:18 PM | message detail |
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It's not exactly a difficult point to figure out. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/26/2006 4:16:16 PM | message detail |
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From red sox 777 Posted 6/26/2006 3:54:04 PM #248 We need to reinstitute the old update topics so that the stats topic isn't used for their purpose. It always gets done eventually. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 4:16:24 PM | message detail |
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Well, that's exactly why I fear Kirby: he's defied all logic in every one of his outings since his loss to Jill. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 4:17:17 PM | message detail |
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I'm not sure how he defied logic in SC2K3 or SC2K4. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 4:18:26 PM | message detail |
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You know the gag about how he absorbs the contest strength of whoever he loses to? That's what I'm talking about. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/26/2006 4:18:26 PM | message detail |
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 6/26/2006 5:17:17 PM | Message Detail I'm not sure how he defied logic in SC2K3 or SC2K4. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 4:20:56 PM | message detail |
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Ah yes, I started that notion, I think. How he seemingly gets stronger
EVERY year despite really not getting any releases worth noting (I
suppose Canvas Curse MIGHT be an exception) is an oddity, to be sure. Also, if Squall hadn't gotten 55.01% in 2004, we could say that Kirby is the only character not named Cloud or Link to do 45% or better in every loss. Really, it's close enough to where we could include him, but it's a technicality. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 4:23:04 PM | message detail |
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Do any of you remember how huge a favorite Alucard was to take his
four-pack in 2003? Kirby/Ramza was heavily debated, but both were
basically considered Alucard fodder. Alucard fodder... funny notion it is. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 4:24:25 PM | message detail |
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And who's the club who always loses with 40%+? Cloud, Link, Kirby, Ryu, Gordon, and who else? --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| hero of time 43 | Posted 6/26/2006 4:25:51 PM | message detail |
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How he seemingly gets stronger EVERY year despite really not getting
any releases worth noting (I suppose Canvas Curse MIGHT be an
exception) is an oddity, to be sure. Wasn't Canvas Curse the first main Kirby game... in years? If you were to try to justify why he grew in strength that particular year, (when CC came out) I'm sure Canvas Curse would be well worth noting. --- "Just because you overheard that conversation between Chloe and me doesn't mean I'm your *****." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 4:26:04 PM | message detail |
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Kirby/Ramza was the hardest voting choice I've ever had to make. I
really had no idea who I wanted to vote for until the day of the match.
I decided ultimately to give my vote to Kirby since Final Fantasy
already had a lot of representatives in the contest. Strangely enough, the 2nd toughest decision was Kirby/Tidus. The pink puffball has faced three of my top 5 favorite characters and he's up there on my list, too. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 4:30:36 PM | message detail |
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And who's the club who always loses with 40%+? Cloud, Link, Kirby, Ryu, Gordon, and who else? Sephiroth (of course), Solid Snake, Aeris, and Shadow (if you want to count only two appearances for them). --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/26/2006 4:34:29 PM | message detail |
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Don't worry, Red and Ulti. I'll be taking care of the Update Topic problem come Contest time. Taking care of it with a vengeance. --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 4:58:38 PM | message detail |
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Ah, Sephiroth. He's so unimpressive in FF7 so far, no wonder I forgot about him. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 4:59:23 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of which, how far along in FFVII are you? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 5:01:13 PM | message detail |
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Just got the airship, have no clue where to go. The next item on the
lost-forever list is in Nibelheim (before going to Mideel), so I assume
my next two stops are Nibelheim and Mideel. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 5:03:11 PM | message detail |
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Mideel is the only place you MUST go after first getting the airship.
I'd take some time getting some Enemy Skills right now, if I were you.
You can get some of the best ones in the game, if you haven't done so
already (White Wind, Big Guard, and Beta). And I can safely say that if you're unimpressed with Sephiroth at this point, chances are you're not going to like him later. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 5:05:20 PM | message detail |
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My three Enemy Skill materias all have the first 17 I can get, except
the third doesn't have Laser... and I think that's all. I believe I can
go grab the fourth one and start filling it up (and don't worry, I
haven't fought Godo yet ;). Oh, and Aqualung helped me out so much more than Beta, you wouldn't believe it. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 5:07:21 PM | message detail |
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Aqualung is awesome, to be sure, but you should've gotten that one by
now due to the Jenova-LIFE boss fight. I was just saying that this is
when I normally get those Enemy Skills. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 5:08:32 PM | message detail |
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Nope, got them from the chimera-type monster in the desert. --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 5:10:48 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, you can get it there, too, but I'm just saying that you had a SURE opportunity to have Aqualung by that point. By the way, I'm sure you will be even more unimpressed with Sephiroth once you get Cloud back into your party. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/26/2006 6:23:37 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, I saw this about Kirby: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=771 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869 They're both just handheld games that aren't big to the Kirby series (as I understand it), but it definitely managed to get its ass kicked both times...and notice in the second ass-kicking that it was largely done by Metroid: Zero Mission and even Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen. Pokemon's got bigger games and Metroid's DEFINTELY got bigger games...not to say that Kirby doesn't have bigger games than Kirby & The Amazing Mirror, but that's simply not promising signs, is all. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/26/2006 6:24:12 PM | message detail |
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I demand more Top 100. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/26/2006 6:26:06 PM | message detail |
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#24 - Super Metroid #29 - Metroid Prime #65 - Metroid #74 - Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Kirby doesn't stand a ****in' chance. Better? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/26/2006 6:26:55 PM | message detail |
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Marry me. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/26/2006 6:27:52 PM | message detail |
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But it's not fair for Kirby because he didn't have any games on the drop-down list!!!! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/26/2006 6:30:48 PM | message detail |
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Neither did Halo 2, but it overcame! Are you tellin' me a Kirby game could actually
beat Halo 2? Because it sounds to me like you're insinuating Kirby can
compete with Metroid's performance, and all of Metroid's ranked games
outdid Halo 2 (Metroid Fusion wasn't ranked). Accept the list. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/26/2006 6:31:48 PM | message detail |
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*neither was Halo 2 in the sense of the game, not that there was no other rep of the Halo series --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/26/2006 6:43:45 PM | message detail |
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Never mind that Halo 2 only made the list because 2 of those 130
entries decided to write it in as their favorite game. <_< --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/26/2006 7:10:41 PM | message detail |
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That 130 entries thing is a joke, right? Right? Granted, I'd be flattered to have two thirds of all entries in a BOP... --- Everything is "Ridiculous! Nonsense! If you believe that, you're a fool! How can that be when..." You'd make a great PW witness. -Shake to Vlado |
| Aprosenf | Posted 6/26/2006 11:14:00 PM | message detail |
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When I first saw the bracket come out, I wasn't sure which of Metroid
and Kirby was the 2 seed and which was the 7 seed, since the seeds
weren't listed. I thought about it for a little bit before coming to
the conclusion that Metroid would win in all likelihood, but it wasn't
a no-brainer by any means. Kirby could easily take around 45%, but I
just don't see it winning. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
| Janus5000 | Posted 6/27/2006 12:03:59 AM | message detail |
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Yes, and I still own the original cartridge 38.69% 65 Yes, way back on an original NES 42.86% 72 Yes, I've played a remade/emulated version 13.1% 22 No, but I've played other games in the series 5.36% 9 No, I've never played a single Super Mario game 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 168 Biggest sample I got with the last option still at 0%. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| Aprosenf | Posted 6/27/2006 12:04:34 AM | message detail |
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For the record: after 171 votes cast in today's poll, there were ZERO
for "No, I've never played a single Super Mario game." After 174 votes,
there was one vote for that option. --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/27/2006 12:05:12 AM | message detail |
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http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/172Votes.PNG 172 votes. That's how many votes there were before someone voted for the 5th option. Pretty darn good. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Chamek | Posted 6/27/2006 12:06:05 AM | message detail |
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I was doing that as well but the biggest I got was only 157 so I'm no
help... I ended up checking PotD to see if anyone had made a topic
discussing it yet and ended up spending too much time there *shudders*
and by the time I clicked back with 191 votes cast there was a single
vote for the final option. --- Upon having Rosie O'Donnell corner him in the forest, the pizza delivery man knew how a Goomba felt when Mario got a star. ~ SSJ3 Popo |
| Aprosenf | Posted 6/27/2006 12:06:45 AM | message detail |
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Anyone happen to catch it at 173? --- For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener |