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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/18/2006 8:42:09 PM | message detail
A Mario Kart game, a Mega Man game, and a Mario game in the poll and they all get trounced by the likes of Golden Sun?

Felix did do well in 2003, ya know. And the fact that it was Mega Man Battle Network is a big reason why it got beat down as bad as it did. It ranked as a very, very distant third in that favorite Mega Man series poll. Pretty comparable to Mega Man Legends and Mega Man Zero, though I have no clue why people don't like MMZ more. >>

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:43:36 PM | message detail
Well, Sora isn't the best example to use in terms of being representative of his series. Besides, most standalone games tend to be more popular than its main character.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:43:38 PM | message detail
Sora, the representative of... well, at the time one game

Two games, KH and KH:CoM.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 8:43:49 PM | message detail
Oh, series versus series -- I missed that part! Damn, I'd have to reconsider LoZ > SMB (if the match actually happened), because I thought for sure that the top two LoZ games could beat any SMB game, and I'm pretty sure the latest big Mario console game was a bust whereas the last console LoZ game got GotY here.

Well, there's our difference. I'm not looking at it on a game by game basis.
Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:44:14 PM | message detail

Two games, KH and KH:CoM.


Yeah, I guess, but do people really care about CoM?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:44:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, I guess, but do people really care about CoM?

I could've swore it came in second place on one of those many GotY polls we were posting at the end of the last topic.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:45:45 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869
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transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:45:55 PM | message detail
do people care about non-SOTN Castlevania games?
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:46:01 PM | message detail
I could've swore it came in second place on one of those many GotY polls we were posting at the end of the last topic.

Really? *looks into it*
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transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:46:23 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869

*smiles*
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/18/2006 8:46:32 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869

Indeed it did!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:46:40 PM | message detail
THAT's the one! Hmmm...Not too far behind Metroid either.
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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:47:06 PM | message detail
Felix did do well in 2003, ya know. And the fact that it was Mega Man Battle Network is a big reason why it got beat down as bad as it did. It ranked as a very, very distant third in that favorite Mega Man series poll. Pretty comparable to Mega Man Legends and Mega Man Zero, though I have no clue why people don't like MMZ more. >>

Yeah, but we were talking name recognition, and I was taking that argument to the GBA polls. <_<
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 8:47:15 PM | message detail
Chrono/Metal Gear

Which series would you take?
Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:47:17 PM | message detail
Ah, here we go:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869

And then the winner of that poll, Metroid, proceeded to perform as follows:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1876
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:48:03 PM | message detail
While I look through GBA polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2244

Sacred Stones trails FFIVA and Minish Cap.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869

There it is. Zero Mission and Chain of Memories are pretty much tied, FireRed/LeafGreen does decently, and Sonic Advance 3 barely beats Astro Boy.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 8:48:05 PM | message detail
Ouch. Burnout'd.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/18/2006 8:48:05 PM | message detail
do people care about non-SOTN Castlevania games?

Nothing leads me to believe they do.

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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:48:14 PM | message detail
Then what are you basing your ideas on for their strength if you aren't looking at the games? I'm assuming you're not looking to character-strengths for support, either, so...where's your basis?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:49:13 PM | message detail
And then the winner of that poll, Metroid, proceeded to perform as follows:

But look at that competition: Halo 2, Half-Life 2, GTA: SA, and Echoes. No wonder it did so abysmally.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:49:48 PM | message detail

But look at that competition: Halo 2, Half-Life 2, GTA: SA, and Echoes. No wonder it did so abysmally.


True.

So yeah, let's say people DO care about CoM. That makes Castlevania look better.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:51:41 PM | message detail
M:ZM also had another Metroid game to compete with, and I'm sure SM64DS didn't help matters for either game considering Mario/Samus.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/18/2006 8:51:42 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2244

Holy cow. I know it's Zelda and FF, but DAMN did Pokémon Emerald bomb in that poll.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:53:32 PM | message detail
Heh, this might bring out something:

Pokemon/Fire Emblem. Who wins?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:55:02 PM | message detail
I'd pick Fire Emblem, but Pokemon would probably win.
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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:55:57 PM | message detail
Yeah, I guess, but do people really care about CoM?

Yes, they do. They may not care much about the gameplay of Sora's part, but the game does introduce Organization XIII. And fans of KH also love playing through Reverse Rebirth (Riku's story).

do people care about non-SOTN Castlevania games?

I think the handheld games have come to acquire a fanbase of their own. Any individual game may not be as popular as SotN, but the handhelds are becoming more popular with each release. Dawn of Sorrow is probably the most popular handheld game, and Portrait of Ruin will probably bring a bit more popularity to the series as well. The series certainly won't be all about SotN as far as strength goes.
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:55:58 PM | message detail
Pokémon, possibly with over 60%.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/18/2006 9:06:35 PM | message detail
I'd take both Pokemon and Star Ocean over Fire Emblem quite easily, as well as practically all of the other series in this contest. Fire Emblem is like the Serious Sam of this contest - there's no way it should be winning a match, but it probably will be.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 9:10:27 PM | message detail
FE vs Madden ftw
transience | Posted 6/18/2006 9:45:05 PM | message detail
I think the handheld games have come to acquire a fanbase of their own. Any individual game may not be as popular as SotN, but the handhelds are becoming more popular with each release. Dawn of Sorrow is probably the most popular handheld game, and Portrait of Ruin will probably bring a bit more popularity to the series as well. The series certainly won't be all about SotN as far as strength goes.

I agree.. my comment was directed at "who cares about CoM?" though. I don't think the handheld games are all that significant though, with the possible exception of DoS.
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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 10:07:43 PM | message detail
I agree.. my comment was directed at "who cares about CoM?" though. I don't think the handheld games are all that significant though, with the possible exception of DoS.

In terms of the other Castlevania's, I think the handhelds are pretty significant. When people think about what they like about the Castlevania series, I bet the handhelds get more consideration on average than say, the NES or SNES games. At least from what I've seen.
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 6/18/2006 10:08:52 PM | message detail
But doesn't a rather high percentage of GameFAQs own a GBA? I seem to recall that being the case anyway.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/18/2006 10:18:23 PM | message detail
I said "help out by reposting the Guru Listing," not "not help out by not reposting the Guru Listing"!

Your Contest Gurus

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - yoblazer33
5 - transience
6 - Heroic Mario
7 - Viviff
8 - silverkiller
9 - Undeniable
10 - Kaxon
11 - Applekidjosh
12 - HaRRicH
13 - Lopen
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Chinballz
16 - A World's Envy
17 - Zylothewolf
18 - greatone
19 - cavedog0
20 - DomaDragoon
21 - Big Bob
22 - Ed Bellis
23 - expaniol
24 - Buzzup
25 - Radix
26 - RPGuy96
27 - Dethwing
28 - soiledtrousers
29 - consolefreak
30 - SephirothG
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - Dark115
33 - NewLib
34 - Draco1214
35 - jonthomson
36 - MegatokyoEd
37 - Voltch
38 - Lucid Faia
39 - Master Moltar
40 - KleenexTissue50
41 - red sox 777
42 - Mithrandir1331
43 - arkenaga
44 - Tai
45 - Mario Superstar
46 - neonreaper
47 - XxSoulxX
48 - SonicRaptor
49 - ChichiriMuyo
50 - OMG its Pale!
51 - dragoontheguy
52 - XIII is cool
53 - Shivan Reincarnated
54 - outback
55 - DarkLink89
56 - dethfdddddh
57 - Ayvuir
58 - Janus5000
59 - War13104
60 - andaca
61 - swirldude
62 - Explicit Content
63 - Meche313
64 - HeroicVivi
65 - FastFalcon05
66 - Tnote
67 - Yesmar
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - MasterMage119
70 - King Morgoth
71 - Aprosenf
72 - Phediuk
73 - charmander6000
74 - Rufus Shinra 18
75 - Mister Mario
76 - Luis Sera89
77 - longbladeofhiko
78 - shadow8021
79 - Lieutenant Kettch
80 - RPGGamer0
81 - WiggumFan267
82 - MetaRidleyX
83 - chocoboslayer
84 - FFDragon
85 - GrapefruitKing
86 - Lagoona
87 - The CruelAngel
88 - Fett0001
89 - cyko
90 - Dunkeroo23
91 - Bobby200614
92 - Tediz247
93 - Samurai7
94 - Jman_GamerX8
95 - ps2rulezzz
96 - Dilated Chemist
97 - Guess how many Teens
98 - Prometheus321
99 - Steinershocker
100 - TheLivingDemon
101 - Tirofog
102 - TheRye
103 - Vile Requiem
104 - rpgapzx
105 - Pathetique
106 - Brett with Atreyu
107 - outsider920
108 - raytan7585
109 - Acronym
110 - BeTheMan
111 - TLO
112 - Black_Turtle

Reminder: This year's Guru Champ decides 1 Character Contest nomination slot from all the rest of the Gurus.

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THEJackSparrow | Posted 6/18/2006 10:20:03 PM | message detail
I still have to wonder why Guru sign-ups take place in the stats topic and not in its own topic.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 10:20:42 PM | message detail
That character slot is mine, I tell ya.....
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/18/2006 10:21:32 PM | message detail
I'd take both Pokemon and Star Ocean over Fire Emblem quite easily, as well as practically all of the other series in this contest. Fire Emblem is like the Serious Sam of this contest - there's no way it should be winning a match, but it probably will be.

I believe the correct term here is "Max Payne".

Anyway, I would probably have to agree with you. Maybe.

FE would be Suikoden though, as I would like to believe SO is quite a bit stronger than it is.


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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 10:25:13 PM | message detail
Your Contest Gurus

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - yoblazer33
5 - transience
6 - Heroic Mario
7 - Viviff
8 - silverkiller
9 - Undeniable
10 - Kaxon
11 - Applekidjosh
12 - HaRRicH
13 - Lopen
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Chinballz
16 - A World's Envy
17 - Zylothewolf
18 - greatone
19 - cavedog0
20 - DomaDragoon
21 - Big Bob
22 - Ed Bellis
23 - expaniol
24 - Buzzup
25 - Radix
26 - RPGuy96
27 - Dethwing
28 - soiledtrousers
29 - consolefreak
30 - SephirothG
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - Dark115
33 - NewLib
34 - Draco1214
35 - jonthomson
36 - MegatokyoEd
37 - Voltch
38 - Lucid Faia
39 - Master Moltar
40 - KleenexTissue50
41 - red sox 777
42 - Mithrandir1331
43 - arkenaga
44 - Tai
45 - Mario Superstar
46 - neonreaper
47 - XxSoulxX
48 - SonicRaptor
49 - ChichiriMuyo
50 - OMG its Pale!
51 - dragoontheguy
52 - XIII is cool
53 - Shivan Reincarnated
54 - outback
55 - DarkLink89
56 - dethfdddddh
57 - Ayvuir
58 - Janus5000
59 - War13104
60 - andaca
61 - swirldude
62 - Explicit Content
63 - Meche313
64 - HeroicVivi
65 - FastFalcon05
66 - Tnote
67 - Yesmar
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - MasterMage119
70 - King Morgoth
71 - Aprosenf
72 - Phediuk
73 - charmander6000
74 - Rufus Shinra 18
75 - Mister Mario
76 - Luis Sera89
77 - longbladeofhiko
78 - shadow8021
79 - Lieutenant Kettch
80 - RPGGamer0
81 - WiggumFan267
82 - MetaRidleyX
83 - chocoboslayer
84 - FFDragon
85 - GrapefruitKing
86 - Lagoona
87 - The CruelAngel
88 - Fett0001
89 - cyko
90 - Dunkeroo23
91 - Bobby200614
92 - Tediz247
93 - Samurai7
94 - Jman_GamerX8
95 - ps2rulezzz
96 - Dilated Chemist
97 - Guess how many Teens
98 - Prometheus321
99 - Steinershocker
100 - TheLivingDemon
101 - Tirofog
102 - TheRye
103 - Vile Requiem
104 - rpgapzx
105 - Pathetique
106 - Brett with Atreyu
107 - outsider920
108 - raytan7585
109 - Acronym
110 - BeTheMan
111 - TLO
112 - Black_Turtle
113 - Tequilla Gundam
MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/18/2006 10:27:45 PM | message detail
If you have SMB going over FF, you might as well take it over LoZ. Series wise, shouldn't the edge go to SMB? This isn't Mario-Link or SM64-OOT here. This is series vs series :)

Why take SMB over FF period anyway? Even if Zelda and Mario were in the same half-bracket, Zelda would win pretty easily, seeing how the only possible game Mario can only beat thanks to SFF is probably the first Zelda game, and that isn't really saying much for Mario. I think you're just looking for too many upsets.. like you did last year.
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Seifer411 | Posted 6/18/2006 10:30:30 PM | message detail
call me crazy, but i have metroid over pokemon in the 2nd round. am i a minority on this?
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THEJackSparrow | Posted 6/18/2006 10:31:22 PM | message detail
You're daft, man. Daft like me.
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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 10:31:33 PM | message detail
You do know Metroid is popular on this site, right?
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Seifer411 | Posted 6/18/2006 10:35:22 PM | message detail
MnMZero
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You do know Metroid is popular on this site, right?

**i do, but i mean pokemon has had a huge impact and is still going strong. I read up on the emerald sales, and it seems that the franchise is doing well.

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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 10:36:21 PM | message detail
"on this site" should be the key words of my post.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 10:39:43 PM | message detail
I think those words are meaningless. I mean, really, look how much Pokemon sold. Also know that Metroid is practically unwanted in Japan, and I don't see why Pokemon couldn't pull it off, no matter the site.
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transience | Posted 6/18/2006 10:40:21 PM | message detail
yeah, just look at the FAQ listings on every Game Boy system.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 10:44:16 PM | message detail
Oh man, and check out the Top 100 List:

Pokemon Red - #28
Metroid Prime - #29

That's not even counting Pokemon Blue!
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 10:45:24 PM | message detail
Oh man, and check out the Top 100 List:

Pokemon Red - #28
Metroid Prime - #29


This could be trouble.
THEJackSparrow | Posted 6/18/2006 10:46:38 PM | message detail
But taking Metroid to beat Pokemon is a risk that might win you the contest. After all, there's bound to be an upset somewhere. The question is: Where? That looks like one of the better ones to me.

Unfortunately, I'm too gutless to take that one. I'm worried Metroid might not even beat Kirby.
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transience | Posted 6/18/2006 10:47:50 PM | message detail
you and that damn list!

# 01 Mega Man BN 6: Gregar
# 02 Pokemon Emerald
# 03 Pokemon FireRed
# 04 Mega Man BN 6: Faltzer
# 05 Pokemon Ruby

no Metroid on the top 10. (this does make me wonder about BN's popularity though!)
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transience | Posted 6/18/2006 10:48:18 PM | message detail
oh, it came out this week. nevermind!
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