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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:28:28 PM | message detail
I don't mind that Ryu made the topic, he just did it way too early. Plus I was planning on fixing up the links a bit.... like right now! =p

Got rid of the All Time Xsts, condensed the Xst pages, added the Top 100 list.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/top10_100.html



!yawa tsoP
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 7:29:30 PM | message detail
*waits for another argument about creating topics to break out*
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 7:30:33 PM | message detail
OMFG WTF ULTI H4X

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:31:09 PM | message detail
Nah, Ryu's a cool dude. I would have made this topic with the fixed no matter who had done that, because I'm in a catchup mood tonight.

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Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 7:31:15 PM | message detail
Oh no, drama!

WHICH ONE IS THE REAL KANE BAH GAWD?!
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
Ed Bellis | Posted 6/17/2006 7:31:40 PM | message detail
I prefer mustard, myself.

*goes to mustard on 293*
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Slowflake | Posted 6/17/2006 7:43:28 PM | message detail
Wait, that was Ryu? *slaps self silly*
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VideoboysaysCube | Posted 6/17/2006 8:14:33 PM | message detail
So anyway, I'm still worried about SF. It could lose to ES or it could even beat RE. Here's the thing, in that one poll, RE was the 2nd most popular Capcon franchise, with Mega Man being first. But what if MM wasn't an option? Where would those votes go to? But then again...RE4...but then again, SF put up a good fight with Mario RPG and that game is no slouch. It's Nintendo and Square. I was quite impressed.

And then we have FE and SH. I must admit, FE's match with FFTA was dissapointing. And honestly, I don't see that the series has expanded that much more. If it wasn't for SSBM, the series wouldn't be anything. I don't have any reason to believe that FE has gotten any more powerful. I am not certain of SH's strength but it has a pretty large fanbase...the Sony fanbase. I really don't know though...it could go either way I think.

Halo and Kingdom Hearts...I see KH taking it just because...I see it this way. Halo and KH are about equal in strength. Halo 2 was seen as a dissapointment so I don't believe it broght in many new fans, while KH2 could have possibley done so. Of course, I have nothing to back this up with. Eh, I don't know.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 8:16:08 PM | message detail
So anyway, the other topic doesn't even have 400 posts yet don't start discussion in here.

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MaxedOutKen | Posted 6/17/2006 8:17:18 PM | message detail
From Slowflake Posted 6/17/2006 10:43:28 PM
Wait, that was Ryu? *slaps self silly*



yeah.....anything with MaxedOut is me
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 6/17/2006 8:18:52 PM | message detail
*tag*

Only two more weeks. I can hardly contain my excitement.

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Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 8:22:19 PM | message detail
Yeah, he's just a palette swap. God.

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VideoboysaysCube | Posted 6/17/2006 8:23:35 PM | message detail
So anyway, the other topic doesn't even have 400 posts yet don't start discussion in here.

That's what I don't understand...Why make this one then? I really don't understand it. WHY? I find it to be a bit arrogant. Why exactly does a new topic have to be made so early in advance? For all we know, the world could just explode. Really, I want an answer. I mean...the topic title is "Contest Stats and Discussion" but no discussion is allowed until the old topic is filled? So I am suppose to track down the other topic first before I should even look at this one? And if that is the case, why is this here?! WHY WHY WHY?!
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VideoboysaysCube | Posted 6/17/2006 8:25:36 PM | message detail
Oh OOPS! I forgot I'm not suppose to be discussing anything here. Disregard my last post.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 8:26:26 PM | message detail
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:50:19 PM | message detail
Silly boy.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 7:03:39 PM | message detail
Has SMB > LoZ ever crossed anyones minds?
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:05:11 PM | message detail
No sane mind.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 7:20:18 PM | message detail
err

Was supposed to say Final Fantasy but you get the point.
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/18/2006 7:25:03 PM | message detail
I don't understand why it should, but it has.
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CompmanJX3 | Posted 6/18/2006 7:31:01 PM | message detail
I have SMB winning it all. I realize it's a stretch... but I (obviously) don't think it's the impossibility most people seem to have pegged it as. The individual Mario games in the contest all lost to either Chrono Trigger or a OOT, if I recall, and I've always felt that SMB as a series carried a lot of weight. I definitely think SMB can take out FF (also extrememly possible that I'm wrong), and Legend of Zelda is not at all out of reach.

And if I'm right, I believe I have a very good chance of winning a prize <_<
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:34:33 PM | message detail
Oh, the Legend of Zelda is definitely out of reach. SFF won't be kind to Mario there.
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CompmanJX3 | Posted 6/18/2006 7:39:19 PM | message detail
Who is to say that Mario won't SFF LoZ?

I mean, you're probably right, but it's still a possibility!

What if LttP had beaten Chrono Trigger and then been beaten by SMB3? What would you all be saying? It could have happened!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:42:06 PM | message detail
Who is to say that Mario won't SFF LoZ?

Well, Zelda won the Favorite Nintendo series poll with 50% while Mario got 25%, for what it's worth.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
CompmanJX3 | Posted 6/18/2006 7:47:28 PM | message detail
Over five years ago!

Still..... perhaps I should chance that one, given this startling new evidence <_<
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:48:16 PM | message detail
The odds that it's changed TOO much are unlikely, I think. Zelda would probably still win handily.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
CompmanJX3 | Posted 6/18/2006 7:52:42 PM | message detail
The other issue is that a SMB vs. LoZ poll in this contest would probably have roughly 10 times as many votes.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:54:14 PM | message detail
But would you really expect more than half of those extra votes to go to Mario? If it did, it wouldn't be enough to overcome what advantage Zelda already has.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 6/18/2006 7:55:25 PM | message detail
OOT-SM64 is all you need to know, really. Zelda/SMB would be an easy match to call. I think it would outdo FF on SMB.. Zelda that is.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:32:09 PM | message detail
Damn you, TG.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:32:42 PM | message detail
This is off topic, but I'm calling right now that either Castlevania or Halo will beat Kingdom Hearts. I just can't decide which one will do it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:32:47 PM | message detail
I nominate that for the most useless 500th post ever.

(And that's saying something!)
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:33:14 PM | message detail
Voters aren't stupid! They aren't voting for simple ports in these polls

But Link to the Past is a port...
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/18/2006 8:33:44 PM | message detail
Castlevania over KH? That'd be...interesting.

I can see Halo, but Castlevania?
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:35:02 PM | message detail
A series where the main character is usually shown wearing green will be beating Kingdom Hearts.
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Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:35:11 PM | message detail
If you swapped KH with Halo in the bracket I'd have Halo > Castlevania in round 2. You're not alone!
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 8:35:21 PM | message detail
Perfect 500 :)

SMB vs LoZ ftw

I have SMB winning it all. I realize it's a stretch... but I (obviously) don't think it's the impossibility most people seem to have pegged it as. The individual Mario games in the contest all lost to either Chrono Trigger or a OOT, if I recall, and I've always felt that SMB as a series carried a lot of weight. I definitely think SMB can take out FF (also extrememly possible that I'm wrong), and Legend of Zelda is not at all out of reach.


If you have SMB going over FF, you might as well take it over LoZ. Series wise, shouldn't the edge go to SMB? This isn't Mario-Link or SM64-OOT here. This is series vs series :)
Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:35:57 PM | message detail
Castlevania over KH? That'd be...interesting.

I can see Halo, but Castlevania?


I'm convinced that the winner of CV vs Halo will win. If Halo wins, I just think that Halo has the whole "represent a system" thing behind it, not to mention already being (seemingly) stronger than KH when they were one game apiece in 2K4.

If Castlevania beats Halo, that means that the sheer volume of the series makes it more popular than we'd think, and that sheer volume should work just as well against KH as it did against Halo.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:36:26 PM | message detail
Mario 64/OoT should give you an idea of how much SMB as a series would be at a disadvantage against Zelda.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:37:13 PM | message detail
Voters aren't stupid! They aren't voting for simple ports in these polls

That's why I said LttP's success in that poll was interesting. Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island got killed, yet LttP did well. I'm really surprised by Sonic Advance's performance. I thought the Advance games were somewhat popular. It looks like the GBA Castlevania games are more popular than the Sonic Advance games by far on this site. And Metroid kills them all!

Now what's that about the Metroid series getting SFF'd by Kirby or Pokemon?
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MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:38:07 PM | message detail
Quoted the wrong part of that post...
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:38:23 PM | message detail
Oh, series versus series -- I missed that part! Damn, I'd have to reconsider LoZ > SMB (if the match actually happened), because I thought for sure that the top two LoZ games could beat any SMB game, and I'm pretty sure the latest big Mario console game was a bust whereas the last console LoZ game got GotY here...

...oh, wait, I already had it down.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:38:35 PM | message detail
Or getting SFF'd by Link to the Past, for that matter!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:39:20 PM | message detail
Mario's #1 only got like 56% on Zelda's #3 or 4. Zelda's #1 got like 76% on Mario's #2 or 3.
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:39:49 PM | message detail
To be fair, OoT/SM64 was LoZ's strongest game against Mario's second or third.

...Though to be even more fair, Mario's best couldn't do much against LoZ's third/fourth/fifth.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:40:09 PM | message detail
I have Castlevania winning its four pack.

And, yes, I was there for Sora/Alucard.
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:40:11 PM | message detail
...Screw you, tran.
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Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:41:04 PM | message detail
It's interesting that LttP did so well

Somehow I missed that sentence, my bad. Heh heh. Yes, it is interesting. *rubs chin in an attempt to save face*
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/18/2006 8:42:01 PM | message detail
I have Castlevania winning its four pack.

And, yes, I was there for Sora/Alucard.


If anything, Sora/Alucard helps the argument of Castlevania winning. Alucard, the representative of one game in the very large Castlevania series, came close to Sora, the representative of... well, at the time one game, but still, the whole Kingdom Hearts series.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:42:01 PM | message detail
And, yes, I was there for Sora/Alucard.

*shakes fist at Board 8 for that match*
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden