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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 293
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| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 6:30:52 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts only has two. Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto only have three that people actually care about. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/17/2006 6:31:38 PM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts only has two. Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto only have three that people actually care about. Again, all of those series have more than one game that people like a lot. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 6:31:55 PM | message detail |
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Sure, Melee is alot more popular than the first, but don't write off
the N64 game as nothing. It was easily one of the more popular N64
titles. This isn't quite Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross or FFT/FFTA we're
talking about here. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:32:16 PM | message detail |
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I was referring to the idea of overlap in this regard. As I mentioned,
SSB will essentially be relying on one game. There is at least debate
in relatively small series like GTA and MGS about which game is the
best. They will not be relying on the strength of only one game. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 6:32:54 PM | message detail |
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Super Smash Brothers will essentially be relying on the strength of one game. Sonic will not. Unless Sonic is relying on the strength of no games, he's going to be terribly disappointed (Here, I am implying that his games are weak and will not garner sufficient votes to defeat his second round opponent, Super Smash Bros., of Nintendo fame). --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:32:57 PM | message detail |
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Sure, Melee is alot more popular than the first, but don't write off
the N64 game as nothing. It was easily one of the more popular N64
titles. But still, how many people are you going to find that are voting for SSB in spite of SSBM? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/17/2006 6:33:00 PM | message detail |
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Sure, Melee is alot more popular than the first, but don't write off
the N64 game as nothing. It was easily one of the more popular N64
titles. This isn't quite Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross or FFT/FFTA we're
talking about here. Not quite the level of Chrono, but not far either. As for FFT/FFTA... a lot of people like FFTA. Just not on this board. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:33:49 PM | message detail |
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(Here, I am implying that his games are weak Individually perhaps, and I wouldn't call them "weak," per se. But we're not talking about individual games, are we? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 6:33:51 PM | message detail |
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Cleverly implying, might I add. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/17/2006 6:33:51 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. I simply disagree. It's not like a lot of the other top series
have tons of games. Metal Gear has 5 (only 3 that are really on the
radar), Halo has 2 with one on the horizon. Kingdom Hearts has 3. Devil
May Cry has 3. GTA has 5 (only 3 really on the radar). A game really
doesn't need tons
of games to be established as a series. Super Smash Bros. has been
around for 7 years now, and has been popular since it splashed on the
scene. And with SSBB on the horizon with much hype and fanfare, I don't
see how it only having 2 games is going to hurt its name in this contest. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:34:49 PM | message detail |
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Once again, I am NOT saying that SSB will be weak because it has only two games. That was never the point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/17/2006 6:35:11 PM | message detail |
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And with SSBB on the horizon with much hype and fanfare, I don't see
how it only having 2 games is going to hurt its name in this contest. It's not that it only has 2 games, it's that it only has one game that's really popular. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:36:40 PM | message detail |
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Well, the original Smash Brothers was popular enough, but I believe the
fanbase overlap will be ridiculous because they are essentially the
same game, only Melee is an upgrade. As I asked before, how many people
are going to be voting for the SSB series in spite of Melee (in
essence, voting because they like the original even though they don't
like Melee)? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/17/2006 6:36:51 PM | message detail |
| Who else has Sonic > SSB in this topic? |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/17/2006 6:37:41 PM | message detail |
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For kicks and giggles, Mario Kart just caught up with Warcraft for most popular upset pick in the BOP. --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:38:28 PM | message detail |
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Huzzah! I was wondering when Mario Kart would overtake it. It's been within 1 or 2 picks for a couple of days now. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 6:38:57 PM | message detail |
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I prefer Super Smash Brothers to Melee, for one. They are out there. (though I can't say I dislike Melee.) Basically, I don't think Sonic has that much more to pull from. Sonic has a large series, but I'd say the only three truly threatening draws he has are S3&K, Sonic 2, and Sonic Adventure 2. And Sonic 2 and SA2 haven't exactly turned heads, here. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/17/2006 6:39:03 PM | message detail |
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Who else has Sonic > SSB in this topic? *raises hand* For kicks and giggles, Mario Kart just caught up with Warcraft for most popular upset pick in the BOP. Nice to see a viable upset finally catching up to a silly one. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 6:39:24 PM | message detail |
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This isn't meant to be taken as criticism, Leon; just an honest
question: would you argue that Halo might also be overrated? After all,
both games are not only very similar, they're also on the same system.
I think the potential for an overlap is just as great, if not greater,
than Smash. I'd say the same argument can also somewhat be made for
series like Kingdom Hearts and GTA, although it wouldn't effect them
nearly as much. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:40:19 PM | message detail |
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I mean, I know there are people who like the original more (though they
are rare), but how many do you find that only like one of them? They're
too similar to have caused such a rift in the fanbase, the way that
series like MGS and GTA have, even if they are relatively small series
as well. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/17/2006 6:40:25 PM | message detail |
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Though to be fair, Silent Hill, Castlevania and KH over MG have been coming back like bullets lately. --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:41:31 PM | message detail |
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I think the potential for an overlap is just as great, if not greater, than Smash. Great, but I would not say "greater," per se. I definitely don't see why you think GTA falls into this same category as well. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/17/2006 6:42:40 PM | message detail |
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This isn't meant to be taken as criticism, Leon; just an honest
question: would you argue that Halo might also be overrated? After all,
both games are not only very similar, they're also on the same system.
I think the potential for an overlap is just as great, if not greater,
than Smash. I'd say the same argument can also somewhat be made for
series like Kingdom Hearts and GTA, although it wouldn't effect them
nearly as much. I'm not Leon (as if you didn't know that >>), but I think the reason Halo won't have this type of problem is that it really represents a company more. It's like the Mario of Microsoft. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 6:43:00 PM | message detail |
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I definitely don't see why you think GTA falls into this same category as well. The three GTA games people care about have very similar gameplay and appeal to the same people. They're also on the same console for the most part. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:43:56 PM | message detail |
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And for the record, I have Halo over Castlevania, but I think it will be pretty close, as in within 55/45. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/17/2006 6:44:01 PM | message detail |
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As I asked before, how many people are going to be voting for the
SSB series in spite of Melee (in essence, voting because they like the
original even though they don't like Melee)? Regardless of where the strength of the series comes from, it's still going under the SSB flag. I simply feel that flag by itself, no matter the diversity, is stronger than the Sonic name on this site. I don't think most voters are going to go back and consider every Sonic game that they like and weigh it against every SSB game. I think it will simply be what is the most popular brand to them, Sonic or Smash Bros. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 6:45:31 PM | message detail |
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Okay, but I'm thinking Sonic has potential for one significant rift at most. Basically what you've got here is: Super Smash Brothers and Melee vs S3&K and Sonic 2... and then SA2 off to the side. I'd say the Sonic half is at a pretty sizable disadvantage in the main fight, and I don't think SA2 can make up for the loss. Of course I feel the same way about Devil May Cry & Devil May Cry 3 vs S3&K and Sonic 2, obviously... just with a less sizable disadvantage in the latter case... --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:45:33 PM | message detail |
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The three GTA games people care about have very similar gameplay and
appeal to the same people. They're also on the same console for the
most part. But there's still a great deal of debate over which one is the best. Your point doesn't deal with the argument I'm making here. Yes, there will be many, many GTA fans who have played the same game, but there won't be nearly as much of a consensus as to what game is the best as there will be with SSB, which will essentially be Melee plus a little more. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/17/2006 6:46:50 PM | message detail |
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Heh. I can't wait to see this match, not for the final result, but to
see the CV fans claim victory in the first few hours when it lays a
beatdown on Halo, then Halo comes back for the win and I'm laughing
like a madman. --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 6:48:48 PM | message detail |
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I don't think most voters are going to go back and consider every Sonic game that they like and weigh it against every SSB game. But with all of them pooled together, you're coming up with a greater likelihood that there's at least one Sonic game they prefer over SSB. A lot of it depends on how they base their vote, admittedly, but this is a risk I'm willing to take. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 6/17/2006 6:52:54 PM | message detail |
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OMG NEW GUY MADE NEW TOPIC! ATTACK MY MINIONS!!! Heh, j/k. --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
| XxMaxedOutxX | Posted 6/17/2006 6:57:18 PM | message detail |
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*new guy walks in* anything i should know??? --- The New Guardian of Wisdom in Sir Chris' Police "I love only myself and fight only for myself." - Gaara |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 6/17/2006 6:57:57 PM | message detail |
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You really shouldn't be making new topics that early. --- Enter The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28674294 |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 7:07:04 PM | message detail |
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Anyone think Mega Man X's victory over Suikoden might be more
impressive (percentage-wise) than one or more of the big three's
opening wins? --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 7:08:34 PM | message detail |
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Nah, it won't be the biggest blowout of the first round. Just because
Suikoden is uber-cult doesn't mean it'll get utterly destroyed by
ANYTHING. Luca did break 40% on Wesker, after all. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 7:09:01 PM | message detail |
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Absolutely. I'm pretty sure FF7 will have more problems with Diablo than MMX with Suikoden. FF7 will pull low 70s, MMX will pull low 80s. I also think KH/Harvest Moon will be more of a blowout than FF7/Diablo. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:09:26 PM | message detail |
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no one gives two ****s about the MMX series aside from the 10 people who brainlessly buy every game for the sake of completion. I'm too lazy to find that poll where MMX wiped the floor with MM in the favorite MM series poll. Sure, it did fairly well back in the day, but it hasn't seen a big hit since Super Castlevania IV back in 1991. I'm ****in' positive this is a mistake. SOTN not a big hit? >_> Applause Sign Posted 6/17/2006 6:56:23 PM message detail #231 Now I remember why this entire topic turned on Tequilla Gundam last contest and shunned him until he left. Hurricane Katrina caused him to leave for awhile, IIRC. It's why I don't really mind if he acts like an ass. Phed's stuff is good on page 5, for the most part. On to 6! ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 7:10:02 PM | message detail |
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Woops, I forgot FF was up against a legitimate series. So... anyone
think MMX might have a more impressive first round victory than Zelda
or Mario? =P --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 7:10:25 PM | message detail |
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Err...I read that too quickly. I thought you were asking if it'd be
bigger than the big three's wins. It's possible that it might beat out
FF because Diablo won't be a slouch, but other than that, no. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 6/17/2006 7:11:19 PM | message detail |
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The blue bomber is famous for blowing out weak competitors. I made the
bold claim that X vs Suikoden would be the largest blowout in the
tournament on the day of the bracket's release, and I still believe it. --- Enter The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28674294 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:13:42 PM | message detail |
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That poll is essentially all of Sonic's games versus SSBM. Let's just put it this way: the hype for RE4 is still lingering across the gaming community. I have no idea why I waited so long to play RE4, though I despise all this Ashley crap. Escort missions need to ****ing die. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Mastermind2k | Posted 6/17/2006 7:14:35 PM | message detail |
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I'd consider Sonic stronger if Sonic 2 hadn't done so poorly in the
Spring Contest, while Melee did well. While I don't think Sonic will be
as weak as Sonic 2, i do believe that the series won't be as strong as
the character, and that Melee could potentially beat the character. Of
course what do I know? I had Aeris in the finals in 02'. --- Nobody cares. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 6/17/2006 7:17:05 PM | message detail |
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From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 6/17/2006 6:36:51 PM | Message Detail Who else has Sonic > SSB in this topic? I've got that in my bracket as well. --- Nominate Timesplitters for Best. Series. Ever. Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:17:20 PM | message detail |
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i do believe that the series won't be as strong as the character I don't get this point at all. X-Stats has you people thinking like robots. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Lopen | Posted 6/17/2006 7:19:59 PM | message detail |
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Oh hey, guys... since you guys like looking at casual brackets, one of
my friend's friends that I'd call a casual bracketmaker filled this out. Round 1 Legend of Zelda Suikoden Star Ocean Kirby Metal Gear Silent Hill Castlevania Kingdom Hearts Super Mario Bros GTA Sonic Smash Bros Final Fantasy Mega Man Street Fighter Resident Evil Round 2 Legend of Zelda Kirby Metal Gear Castlevania Super Mario Bros Sonic Final Fantasy Street Fighter Round 3 Legend of Zelda Metal Gear Super Mario Bros Final Fantasy Round 4 Legend of Zelda Super Mario Bros Round 5 Super Mario Bros It looks really weird in the Hyrule Division. Thought it was funny that he didn't pick Mega Man X, but he picked Mega Man > Mario Kart. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/17/2006 7:20:36 PM | message detail |
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I like his winner. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/17/2006 7:21:23 PM | message detail |
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I like his thinking on Kirby. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 7:26:45 PM | message detail |
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This doesn't specifically relate to the topic at hand, but how many other boards were privy to the contest nominations? --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| MaxedOutRyu | Posted 6/17/2006 7:26:59 PM | message detail |
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what y'all think about KH > Metal Gear??? --- The New Guardian of Wisdom in Sir Chris' Police "I love only myself and fight only for myself." - Gaara |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 6/17/2006 7:30:07 PM | message detail |
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Officially, there was a link on the Daily Grind, and a non-stickied topic on Random Insanity. --- Enter The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28674294 |