GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 293
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| Samurai7 | Posted 6/17/2006 8:57:04 AM | message detail |
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As for Elderscrolls, it is a PC/Xbox-based series not named Halo. End of discussion. Knights of the old Republic out ranked SFII >.> --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 8:59:06 AM | message detail |
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I don't know why it's so hard to get through to people that sales
figures =/= popularity, let alone popularity on GameFAQs. It's not at
all ignorant to say it's not popular because it isn't. People buying a
game does not translate directly to people enjoying a game. Let us not
forget that the numbers of Pokemon copies versus Xenogears copies is
greater by an even larger factor. I said it right in my post that sales =/= popularity, that was more of a response to Pheiduik than you, who insults on calling it a non-popular game and a cult classic. Because we all know cult classics sell a million copies. And I guess our opinions of popular differ. When I'm talking about popularity, I'm talking about sales, not how it will translate into a contest setting, still calling it a cult classic is completely ridiculous. Star Ocean would thrash any Cult Classic game we've ever seen in these contests, like Suikoden for example. Still when we've never seen SO perform, I don't know how we can completely throw it out the window against a series that has shown to be pretty damn weak on this site (Pokemon) whether it be a game, or a character that it is featuring. If it were going up against a mid-carder, there'd be no reason to even talk about it, but Pokemon is weak, and that's what I'm relying on more than SO being wildly loved. It only needs a little bit o' lovin' to be able to handle Pokemon. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 8:59:27 AM | message detail |
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Star Ocean 3 has been well liked though, when it first came out
there was buzz going around about it on the PS2 boards, and depending
on which polls you look at, it ranges from fairing well to poor. Yes, there was buzz when it came out. A new installment from a mid-tier RPG series is bound to create some buzz on GameFAQs, surprise surprise. Sure died off quickly, though. I don't like to look at polls as an example, simply because when you throw in a million different options, it's hard to see how it translates into a contest setting, but it's not as if it has performed poorly in every poll we've seen it in. There's simply no way to tell that it's not popular on here. No, aside from basic logic, there's no way at all. Star Ocean doesn't have number of copies going for it. It doesn't have quality ratings in reviews going for it. It doesn't have brand name going for it. What is it that leads SO to be an unlaughable pick here? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| Ardus | Posted 6/17/2006 9:01:14 AM | message detail |
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However terrible SO3 was, this is a series matchup, which
means Star Ocean will include the incredible first two as well as the
third. If you've played one Pokemon, you've played them all IMO, which
makes SO a stronger competitior. However, the voters will probably just judge the entire series on the most recent (and lamentably best selling) one, so I've got Pokemon winning anyway. XD --- "So are the female Night Elves really going to be guys in makeup?" -Shia, on the Warcraft movie |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:03:17 AM | message detail |
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I've yet to hear an argument for why elder scrolls has no shot at street fighter other than "lol xbox/pc r teh weakz!". I'm not disrespecting the opinion of those that pick SF, I'm just saying that peope really shouldn't be discounting elder scrolls so easily. Especially when halo, starcraft, kotor, and half-life all outranked sf2 in the 2k4 spring contest x-stats. It's not like xbox and pc games are incapable of being strong. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:04:42 AM | message detail |
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Where does all of Star Ocean's supposed "popularity" come from? Is it from the mediocre Japan-only SNES game? Or from the PS1 game released six years ago and came and went without much hype even then (and sold like 2 copies anyway)? Or from the PS2 game that received mixed reviews at best and mediocre sales? I'm gonna go with the PS2 game that sold over a million copies, unless that counts as mediocre sales, you know that trumps Xenogears sales. You keep spouting BS, you're told you're wrong, and you continue to do it. There's a difference between fact and opinion. Think Pokemon is going to beat Star Ocean all you like, it doesn't matter to me, but don't say it's a Cult Classic with lacking sales, because it isn't. Average score on gamerankings? 80.65. Which is better than average if you are wondering. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:05:35 AM | message detail |
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Knights of the old Republic out ranked SFII >.> Okay, I'll give you KOTOR. But Elderscrolls never attained KOTOR's level of popularity on this site. Not even close. I really see no chance of it beating SF on NintendoFAQs, although it would rape SF up, down, and sideways on any site with a significant PC gaming presence. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:05:43 AM | message detail |
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No, aside from basic logic, there's no way at all. Star Ocean doesn't have number of copies going for it. It doesn't have quality ratings in reviews going for it. It doesn't have brand name going for it. What is it that leads SO to be an unlaughable pick here? And what the hell did Xenogears have going for it? Brand name? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Ardus | Posted 6/17/2006 9:09:07 AM | message detail |
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I've yet to hear an argument for why elder scrolls has no shot at street fighter other than "lol xbox/pc r teh weakz!". Among most older gamers SF2 is considered the best fighting game of all time bar none, not that I agree... Elder Scrolls games may be excellent, but they only appeal to a small percentage of gamers, many typical RPG fans (FF fans) don't even play them. --- "So are the female Night Elves really going to be guys in makeup?" -Shia, on the Warcraft movie |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:09:17 AM | message detail |
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Okay, I'll give you KOTOR. But Elderscrolls never attained KOTOR's
level of popularity on this site. Not even close. I really see no
chance of it beating SF on NintendoFAQs, although it would rape SF up,
down, and sideways on any site with a significant PC gaming presence. What makes you say it's nowhere near as popular as kotor? Oblivion on this site? All we have to base this off of is faq lists, message board popularity, and one poll. That one poll puts oblivion just behind kh2 in what gamefaqs considers the best game so far this year, and morrowind, a four year old game has never to my knowledge been knocked off the top fifty faqlists. I can't ever recall a game being ahead of WoW on pc faqs as long as oblivion has. Morrowind and oblivion also have extremely active message boards... so the only evidence we have, which I admit isn't much or even means all that much, shows elder scrolls to be popular on the site. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:09:39 AM | message detail |
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Okay, I'll give you KOTOR. But Elderscrolls never attained KOTOR's level of popularity on this site. Not even close. I really see no chance of it beating SF on NintendoFAQs, although it would rape SF up, down, and sideways on any site with a significant PC gaming presence. ? Oblivion finished right behind KHII in the "What's your GOTY so far this year?" poll, it has both the 360 version and PC version of Oblivion on numbers 2 and 3 on the top 10 FAQ list respectively. I guess since we've never seen KHII in action in a contest, we should say that has never shown to be as popular as KOTOR either. And once again, top 10 listing doesn't mean instant win, but when we've never seen it perform in a contest setting before, we have to go by the other things we have seen it on, on gamefaqs, and it's done spectacular. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:11:03 AM | message detail |
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However terrible SO3 was, this is a series matchup, which means Star
Ocean will include the incredible first two as well as the third. If
you've played one Pokemon, you've played them all IMO, which makes SO a
stronger competitior. However, the voters will probably just judge the entire series on the most recent (and lamentably best selling) one, so I've got Pokemon winning anyway. XD Did the original Star Ocean even come out in NA? I've never in my entire life seen a copy. And yes, Pokemon is Pokemon is Pokemon, but you've said yourself that SO3 is the only Star Ocean game in recent memory, and SO2 didn't sell all that well, anyway. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:12:59 AM | message detail |
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Care to extrapolate on what Xenogears had the advantage of over Pokemon
when that match occurred, to make it be an unlaughable pick? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tai | Posted 6/17/2006 9:13:02 AM | message detail |
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Mega Man > Mario Kart lol --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation! Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/17/2006 9:18:55 AM | message detail |
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Care to extrapolate on what Xenogears had the advantage of over
Pokemon when that match occurred, to make it be an unlaughable pick? This is a series contest, not a games contest. All of the Pokemon games have been enormously successful. No Star Ocean game has been a smash hit. Or anywhere near it. Yes, you can say that Star Ocean 3 sold over a million copies, but how many of those were in the US (you know, the region that actually matters in these contests)? --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:22:36 AM | message detail |
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This is a series contest, not a games contest. All of the Pokemon games have been enormously successful. No Star Ocean game has been a smash hit. Or anywhere near it. Yes, you can say that Star Ocean 3 sold over a million copies, but how many of those were in the US (you know, the region that actually matters in these contests)? Wow, you managed to completely avoid my question, and not answer it. +5 to ignoring skills. You continue to tell me that Pokemon games have been enormously successful, so then pray-tell, was Xenogears able to beat it? What does it have that Star Ocean 3 lacks? Please tell me, because there's nothing. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Ardus | Posted 6/17/2006 9:22:56 AM | message detail |
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Did the original Star Ocean even come out in NA? I've never in my
entire life seen a copy. And yes, Pokemon is Pokemon is Pokemon, but
you've said yourself that SO3 is the only Star Ocean game in recent
memory, and SO2 didn't sell all that well, anyway. SO1 only came out for the Super Famicom but the cracking of the rom, plus the release of the English translation patch are celebrated events in the history of the intarweb. ;) SO2 actually did sell pretty well, as I recall, it sold 1 million+, spawned an anime TV series, and a GBC sequel. Not to mention it was one of the best RPGs of ALL TIME!!!11one For the record, I'm with you, I don't think SO stands a chance on GameFAQs precisely because of statements like this. SO3 is the only Star Ocean game in recent memory ='( --- "So are the female Night Elves really going to be guys in makeup?" -Shia, on the Warcraft movie |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 6/17/2006 9:25:58 AM | message detail |
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SO3 sold 626,000 outside of Japan as of September 2005. SO2 sold 370,000. --- Enter The GameFAQs StarCraft Tournament of Champions 2006: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000184&topic=28674294 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:27:41 AM | message detail |
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Okay, still trumps Xenogears numbers. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/17/2006 9:27:45 AM | message detail |
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What does it have that Star Ocean 3 lacks? Please tell me, because there's nothing. People that, y'know, love the game? There's all of three people on this board that are passionate about Star Ocean (Dabu, Holy Excalibur, and Alanna). To everyone else, myself included, it's meh. Maybe meh is enough to beat Pokemon anyway, but Star Ocean simply isn't a popular series or even a cult classic like Xenogears. Because a cult implies that there are a sizeable amount of people that actually care about the game, which doesn't happen with any Star Ocean game. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:30:02 AM | message detail |
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Cult also implies that 14 people bought the game. Please don't use this
boards preferences as a way of judging what will happen in a contest
setting. Unless of course you think that Shadow Hearts would beat Halo
in a contest setting --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/17/2006 9:32:21 AM | message detail |
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You continue to tell me that Pokemon games have been enormously
successful, so then pray-tell, was Xenogears able to beat it? What does
it have that Star Ocean 3 lacks? Please tell me, because there's
nothing. Praise. Star Ocean 3 is not highly regarded (I don't give a crap about GameRankings because the opinion of GameFAQers is all that matters in these contests) by just about anyone. As said before, I have never seen someone give gushing praise for SO3, and even for the first two games it's few and far between. Xenogears, on the other hand, is widely considered to be an excellent RPG by those who have played it. Sure, there's a few who think it falls apart at Disc 2, but on the whole it is a very widely-praised game among RPG fans. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:33:24 AM | message detail |
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(I don't give a crap about GameRankings because the opinion of GameFAQers is all that matters in these contests) Yeah, I forgot about that poll we had where we polled everyone on GameFAQs if they thought it was a good game. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:34:32 AM | message detail |
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Also, I know quite a few people who love SO3, so that means it's an auto-win, right? I KNOW PEOPLE. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Samurai7 | Posted 6/17/2006 9:35:12 AM | message detail |
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I know no one IRL that really likes SO... including all the regulars at
work (EB). I do however know and talk to quite a few people who liked
Xenogears. Anecdotal? Yes. Good Evidence? No. But when theres no other
way to compare to games strength I go with my personal experience. Same
reason I'll take ES over SF. --- Did you know 86% of all statistics are made up on the spot? |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:35:52 AM | message detail |
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I'm not disrespecting the opinion of those that pick SF, I'm just
saying that peope really shouldn't be discounting elder scrolls so
easily. Especially when halo, starcraft, kotor, and half-life all
outranked sf2 in the 2k4 spring contest x-stats. It's not like xbox and
pc games are incapable of being strong. They aren’t incapable, but only a select few of the greatest make it. Starcraft and KOTOR are games that would be heavyweights in competitions on other sites, and Starcraft in particular is a contest winner on sites that care about PC gaming. It only did well here because of massive outside voting, and there is no way on earth that Elderscrolls would ever inspire that. It doesn’t even have the online infrastructure to do so. Average score on gamerankings? 80.65. Which is better than average if you are wondering. Yes, it recieved reviews of around 80% on average, but Pokemon's rankings for its most recognizable entries are much better. If you look at the averages of the most significant entries of most series in the contest, you’ll find that their averages are much better than 80%. And what the hell did Xenogears have going for it? Brand name? It was a highly well-regarded RPG from Square (that being the brand name I was referring to). I underestimated just how well-liked it was. It was that likeability that made it able to surmount Pokemon’s sales numbers and exposure, as well as the Square aspect. No game in the SO series is anywhere near that well-liked. What makes you say it's nowhere near as popular as kotor? Oblivion on this site? All we have to base this off of is faq lists, message board popularity, and one poll. And as you go on to mention, much of this evidence is in its favor. Heck, you’ve almost convinced me, but only because I really do want to be convinced on this. I’m a PC-based gamer myself, after all. But really, the GOTY poll is worthless. KH2 is the only significant game that has come out this year aside from Oblivion, after all. I think the fact that the “I don't know, I haven't played a single one of those” option beat even KH2 shows only what we already know: most GOTY-worthy games come out around Christmas. Doing decently in a poll at this point in the year means exactly nothing. If anything, it shows KH2’s weakness, not Oblivion’s strength. Looking at the popularity of its FAQ doesn’t really work in comparison because KOTOR is nowhere near as huge a game as Elderscrolls. The original Halo is likewise nowhere to be found on the list, but I think we can all agree that it would beat Elderscrolls. As for message boards, they have been proven time and time again to be nowhere near representative of the voting population, so I’ll just leave that one alone. My pretty firm belief that KOTOR > Elderscrolls on GameFAQs comes from more “soft” evidence than faq rankings or message board posts, which makes it hard to relay convincingly. I'm just a PC gamer who knows PC games and the PC gaming preferences of GameFAQs pretty well. I don't expect that to convince you of my POV, obviously. But that’s not really relevant, since what we’re really discussing is Elderscrolls > Street Fighter. I’m beginning to see it your way, as I already said, in that Elderscrolls has a shot, but I still see that shot as an outside, 'dark horse' sort of thing. Street Fighter is the deserved favorite, but hopefully this match will be more interesting than I had previously expected :) --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 9:36:26 AM | message detail |
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So, what do you guys think about a possible Kingdom Hearts over Metal
Gear upset? That's the only match I'm thinking about right now. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:37:45 AM | message detail |
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Jesus Christ... the "I know people" argument is one of the stupidest of
all. In my school, I know of a lot more people that like Star Ocean
than Xenogears, hell I've only heard one other person ever even mention
Xenogears, that doesn't mean Star Ocean is going to beat it. Hell, I
know more people IRL that love XBox over GC and PS2, PSP over DS, and
they'd all win in a popularity poll, right? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:42:26 AM | message detail |
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They aren’t incapable, but only a select few of the greatest make
it. Starcraft and KOTOR are games that would be heavyweights in
competitions on other sites, and Starcraft in particular is a contest
winner on sites that care about PC gaming. It only did well here
because of massive outside voting, and there is no way on earth that
Elderscrolls would ever inspire that. It doesn’t even have the online
infrastructure to do so. Evidently you've never been to any elder scrolls sites. The mod community for the series is absolutely massive. I already explained why it has a large online community in a rant I had a few stats topics back... but heres one thing to think about: atthe time I made the rant the amount of registered users prowling the elder scrolls official forums was 8% of te amount on gamefaqs. Check now and I'm sure you'll find similar numbers. Oblivion is also a hugely successful game. 1.5 million sales in the first two weeks. In it's first week it's pc sales made up a full quarter of the pc sales market. It's far more popular then most people are giving it credit for. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:42:37 AM | message detail |
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So, what do you guys think about a possible Kingdom Hearts over
Metal Gear upset? That's the only match I'm thinking about right now. Won't happen. Kingdom Hearts is not a powerhouse. The original game performed averagely in the Best. Game. Ever. competition, and I really don't see people suddenly liking Kingdom Hearts when they didn't before just because of KH2's release. The GOTY poll I mentioned earlier shows that only about a quarter of respondents would even consider KH2 to be the best game of this year so far, and it's not like there have been many other big releases. If any upsets are happening involving Kingdom Hearts, it will be Halo doing the upsetting. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/17/2006 9:44:45 AM | message detail |
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Here's a question, since we're touching on TES/SF: if the Top 100 list
was conducted again today, with Oblivion on the drop-down list, where
do you all think it would place? --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 9:45:11 AM | message detail |
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I really don't see people suddenly liking Kingdom Hearts when they didn't before just because of KH2's release. HKII has given a very nice sales boost to both the original game and Chain of Memories. Heck, CoM outsold Metroid Prime: Hunters last month. Maybe it's just because I don't see Metal Gear being as strong as many people give it credit for, but depending on the role recency plays, I think KH can definitely make some noise. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:46:18 AM | message detail |
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Among most older gamers SF2 is considered the best fighting game of all time bar none, not that I agree... Elder Scrolls games may be excellent, but they only appeal to a small percentage of gamers, many typical RPG fans (FF fans) don't even play them. Actually TES is surprisingly mainstream. First of all I never said SF wasn't well known or that it wasn't held in high regard amongst old school gamers, because obviously it is. Elder scrolls appeals to far more people then you would think. Oblivion alone sold over 1.5 million copies in it's first two weeks as I already mentioned. This is also a series that to my knowledge doesn't exist in japan, so were talking about predominantly north american and some european sales here. i.e. the people who actually visit the site. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:47:49 AM | message detail |
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Evidently you've never been to any elder scrolls sites. The mod
community for the series is absolutely massive. I already explained why
it has a large online community in a rant I had a few stats topics
back... but heres one thing to think about: atthe time I made the rant
the amount of registered users prowling the elder scrolls official
forums was 8% of te amount on gamefaqs. Check now and I'm sure you'll
find similar numbers. Oblivion is also a hugely successful game. 1.5
million sales in the first two weeks. In it's first week it's pc sales
made up a full quarter of the pc sales market. It's far more popular
then most people are giving it credit for. I am well aware that Oblivion is a successful game, but sales numbers of a PC/Xbox game mean little with regards to GameFAQs popularity. And yes, the Elderscrolls fan community online is of decent size, but it would be incapable of getting the word out as fast and effectively as the Starcraft community based on infrastructure differences alone, even assuming that it cared to do so. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2006 9:47:55 AM | message detail |
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Elder Scrolls maybe comparably mainstream, but it's too untangible to
be beaten by the incredibly well-known and well-liked Street Fighter. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:50:12 AM | message detail |
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Elder Scrolls maybe comparably mainstream, but it's too untangible
to be beaten by the incredibly well-known and well-liked Street Fighter. Why is this exactly? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 9:52:02 AM | message detail |
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I am well aware that Oblivion is a successful game, but sales
numbers of a PC/Xbox game mean little with regards to GameFAQs
popularity. And yes, the Elderscrolls fan community online is of decent
size, but it would be incapable of getting the word out as fast and
effectively as the Starcraft community based on infrastructure
differences alone, even assuming that it cared to do so. People on elder scrolls sites are already browsing the internet, and not playing games when they're on those sites. Most people on starcraft channels are simply not going to care about spam given to them about some random poll they don't care about. While some people lounge around in SC, most don't. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:55:14 AM | message detail |
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HKII has given a very nice sales boost to both the original game and
Chain of Memories. Heck, CoM outsold Metroid Prime: Hunters last month. Maybe it's just because I don't see Metal Gear being as strong as many people give it credit for, but depending on the role recency plays, I think KH can definitely make some noise. Taking out Metal Gear when the original struggled against Soul Calibur is a tall order. There is some leeway in Metal Gear's strength, maybe, but I can't envision that much. As for recent press being a factor, KH2 may have come out lately, but lots of noise has also been made about MGS4. It's not as though MG is a forgotten series. I'm not expecting a huge boost from KH2. There is usually some sort of boost when a new game in a series comes out, but I'm only counting on a moderate one in this case. The KH series is overrated by the boards when you look at its track record. Nothing related to it has ever made waves in a GameFAQs contest, so betting on it doing so now against Metal Gear is expecting an awful lot out of KH, IMO. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2006 9:57:12 AM | message detail |
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I can honestly see KH struggling against or even losing to Halo. I cannot see it beating Metal Gear. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 9:57:49 AM | message detail |
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People on elder scrolls sites are already browsing the internet, and
not playing games when they're on those sites. Most people on starcraft
channels are simply not going to care about spam given to them about
some random poll they don't care about. While some people lounge around
in SC, most don't. But you can get to a lot more Starcraft players with that spam than you can with a message on an Elderscrolls site. How many Elderscrolls people will be around to pay attention when they're all surfing around? With Starcraft, on the other hand, it is easy to reach many players instantly. Many won't care, but it's already been proven that enough do to make an impact. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 9:58:17 AM | message detail |
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It was a highly well-regarded RPG from Square (that being the brand name I was referring to). I underestimated just how well-liked it was. It was that likeability that made it able to surmount Pokemon’s sales numbers and exposure, as well as the Square aspect. No game in the SO series is anywhere near that well-liked. Please tell me how the hell you could come to this conclusion, it makes absolutely no sense to me. There's nothing to indicate it's not popular here, yet everyone seems so intent on saying so. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 10:01:28 AM | message detail |
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Elder Scrolls games may be excellent, but they only appeal to a
small percentage of gamers, many typical RPG fans (FF fans) don't even
play them. If you mean the typical GameFAQs RPG fan, I can't help but agree. The gameplay style in ES isn't appealing to them. But ES does not appeal to only "a small percentage of gamers". The sales numbers have been posted already, and they prove pretty definitively that Oblivion is not a niche RPG. It's just not wildly popular here. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 10:01:45 AM | message detail |
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For all the talk about Kingdom Hearts disappointing in the Games
Contest, it was still (on paper, anyway) stronger than any Metal Gear
game. Unless you believe that MGS3 is stronger than MGS2, the only game
which is possibly stronger than Kingdom Hearts is the original MGS.
Throw in the recency of Kingdom Hearts II, and it could be a very
competitive match. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 10:01:54 AM | message detail |
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Also, even if you do believe that KH is indirectly as strong or even stronger than MG, I don't know why you would personally, but if you did, you'd look at Sora/Snake and know that there is SF about it, and it most definitely favors the Metal Gear counterpart. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 10:03:28 AM | message detail |
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But you can get to a lot more Starcraft players with that spam than
you can with a message on an Elderscrolls site. How many Elderscrolls
people will be around to pay attention when they're all surfing around?
With Starcraft, on the other hand, it is easy to reach many players
instantly. Many won't care, but it's already been proven that enough do
to make an impact. Proven, how exactly? I've always thought that rallying was a very small factor in starcraft's success. It was just a lot stronger at night then during the day. Besides, how do you know for sure that it would be so hard to reach elder scrolls fans? They certainly wouldn't care any less about it than people who are in the middle of playing a game, and are being spammed to by multiple bots at once in a channel. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/17/2006 10:03:51 AM | message detail |
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How the hell does Metal Gear SFF Kingdom Hearts? They're completely
different genres made by completely different companies targetted at
completely different fanbases. TuRtLe ~~~ Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| smitelf | Posted 6/17/2006 10:04:33 AM | message detail |
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Please tell me how the hell you could come to this conclusion, it makes absolutely no sense to me. Common sense and the powers of observation (and I just mean on GameFAQs generally, not some random people I know). When everyone else is saying so, you might want to consider it. Not that popular opinion = truth, but it's always worth a look when popular opinion on a popularity contest does not in any way coincide with your own opinion. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/17/2006 10:05:34 AM | message detail |
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Kingdom Hearts - 34.70% Metal Gear Solid - 28.70% Just how much SFF can we assume took place between FFVII and MGS before we start to really get carried away? look at Sora/Snake and know that there is SF about it, and it most definitely favors the Metal Gear counterpart. That match is the biggest piece of evidence keeping me from switching sides. There was definite SFF, and it definitely did not go KH's way. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/17/2006 10:05:52 AM | message detail |
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How the hell does Metal Gear SFF Kingdom Hearts? They're completely
different genres made by completely different companies targetted at
completely different fanbases. That SF obviously stood for Something Fishy. God. >_> On a more serious note, if you don't think something went odd in Sora/Snake, you're crazy, and I'm going to call it SFF, because that's the only thing that would cause such a thing to happen. I don't care if it's not blatantly obvious. It's completely unpredictable that MG would SFF KH, but it apparently does. You just have to have a fanbase overlap. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/17/2006 10:06:47 AM | message detail |
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How the hell does Metal Gear SFF Kingdom Hearts? They're completely
different genres made by completely different companies targetted at
completely different fanbases. They don't. People are just looking for anything that could possibly explain the anomaly that was sora vs. snake, and sff is what a lot tend to believe for some odd reason. The fact is that anomolys happen, and characters will occassionally perform considerably better or worse then they normally would. Whether it's because of a picture, recent games, just random chance of the influx of people coming to gamefaqs on that specific day or what, I don't know. But anomalys can and do happen. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |