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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/18/2006 6:02:29 PM | message detail |
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From Who Cares? Posted 6/18/2006 8:55:05 PM #445 Indeed, plus Bison is really the only SFer (other than Ryu of course) that's had a fair shot at winning a match. He's won a match already. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 6:02:49 PM | message detail |
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Guy would have people saying "OMG Final Fight!", though. On a related note, I'd also take Dan to win over Guy without much trouble. Dan's in most of those newfangled "vs." games, Guy's not. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:02:51 PM | message detail |
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Well, we haven't had more than two SF characters in any one contest
(and only four overall), so I don't really see how we're overexhausting
them. Plus, as somebody else said, it'd be nice to get someone other than Ryu into a winnable situation. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:03:25 PM | message detail |
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He's won a match already. I believe that was his point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/18/2006 6:07:13 PM | message detail |
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Well then someone other than Ryu has been in a winnable situation. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:09:34 PM | message detail |
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In a Summer Contest, I meant. Should have clarified that. Any Street
Fighter character could've been put into a winnable situation in the
Villains Contest. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 6/18/2006 6:16:27 PM | message detail |
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Even Necro, Oro and Twelve? --- Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus http://www.mhho.com/Images/Contest/2002/kuri-nmentrywily.jpg |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:16:55 PM | message detail |
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Yes. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 6/18/2006 6:18:39 PM | message detail |
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you could have put transience vs. Albedo and my cookie picture as my half of the match pic and I probably would have won. --- xyzzy "I was scared of that match because I thought Magus was over-confiscated for in his match against Crono." -Tai |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/18/2006 6:35:45 PM | message detail |
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I'd pick Hector or Meta-Knight. Both are awesome. --- Your score is: FAIL http://www.utdallas.edu/~mxs015000/cgi-bin/evaluation.pl |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 6:48:23 PM | message detail |
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Fire Emblem characters? Meh......I hope people reconsider that idea if the series doesn't perform that well. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 7:23:26 PM | message detail |
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If I bothered with the Guru contest, you know I'd have to get Carmen
Sandiego in a contest. I would have gotten her into the Villains
contest had I thought about it. She would have been better than half
the field! --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 7:33:12 PM | message detail |
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SSBM got DOUBLED by Final Fantasy X. How could it ever beat it in a head-to-head match? In other words, I don't take old Game of the Year Polls to be worth too much. Besides, we saw Sonic characters have a notable increase in strength, so it's possible that his games went up as well. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=776 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128 Technically, 30.33% isn't doubling 15.17%, heh. The point's made though...yet you have to respect that here's a HUGE difference between 30.33% to 15.17% and 45.66% to 3.07%, one that cannot be ignored. Furthermore, the 2002 Gamecube poll has nearly 20,000 more votes than the 2001 Overall poll. The Gamecube poll is also newer, so that helps its cause. Let's also check release dates, shall we? FFX - 12/17/01 SSBM - 12/02/01 Oh man, looks like there was about two weeks to decide which game people liked the best, and considering the Gamecube came out about two months before the poll was taken, people were having to pay big bucks to play it that quickly while PS2-owners from the past year only had to pay $50 to play it then. You should also take note that the top three games in the 2002 Gamecube poll were Nintendo games...of those who voted for AC or SMS, how likely do you think it would be that they would vote SA2B over MP? I also remind you that SA2B had nine months worth of sales on MP and still got thrashed horribly in that poll... ...oh, and you said Sonic characters had an increase. Yes...last year. In 2003 though (the year after SA2B was ported), Sonic had his worst showing yet (though Shadow's best showing, too, perhaps for other reasons). Just saying that it's doubtful to be because of SA2B, and Sonic's/Knuckles's boost this past year won't be enough of a sign to make SA2B itself something to fret about. You may take whatever credit you want from the GotY polls, but when you have questions and evidence like these, I don't see how you can ignore it to this level. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 7:37:26 PM | message detail |
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Carmen Sandiego suddenly became an option for my Guru pick. =) --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:40:38 PM | message detail |
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The point's made though...yet you have to respect that here's a HUGE
difference between 30.33% to 15.17% and 45.66% to 3.07%, one that
cannot be ignored. Fine, Halo only got 6% on that poll, and it's nigh even to Final Fantasy X and SSBM now. Yes yes, there's all that anti-XBox stuff, but that's just evidence that things change. Plus, one reason I don't trust Game of the Year polls in regard to correlating to contest strength: People who had just bought and played the games were still excited about it, especially when it's THAT recent. It's fresh in memory. Keep in mind that Final Fantasy X overtook Final Fantasy VI for the 2nd favorite Final Fantasy in the aftermath of its release. THERE is when hype matters. While you tout that Sonic Adventure 2: Battle's longer release time was to its advantage, I would beg to differ with you in that regard. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 7:41:12 PM | message detail |
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To add to that, in 2001 this site was heavy with Square fans. The only
thing Nintendo really had going for it was the dying N64. The Gamecube
was brand new, and a couple months of Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron
II, and SSBM wasn't really enough to bring a huge Nintendo fanbase.
That 2001 Game of the Year poll was no fluke. FFX probably would have
handily beaten SSBM back then. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/18/2006 7:45:23 PM | message detail |
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If I win the Guru Contest prepare to see Aeris make her return to the Contest. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:46:45 PM | message detail |
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Hmmm...I wonder where GoldenEye really places. It makes me curious when
considering how much higher it brings Panzer Dragoon Saga, a game that
got more votes than sales. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 7:47:56 PM | message detail |
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Halo is in the same boat as SSBM, except from a much less popular
system as far as GameFAQs goes. Is it any surprise to you that, for
that year, the top two games were PS2 games? MP still had more time between its release and the poll that FFX or SSBM by afew weeks, and MP simply isn't as strong as FFX or SSBM either -- never was and never will be. Do you think SA2B suffered that greatly from it? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 7:49:40 PM | message detail |
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Perhaps you don't realize how big of a deal Metroid Prime was. Heck,
Metroid games seem to do decently in GotY polls anyway regardless. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:03:20 PM | message detail |
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Well, I just changed my bracket for the first time, so now I have Mario
Kart > Mega Man. I've wanted to be stubborn about changing my
bracket because it seems like every time I let the board change my mind
from my initial pick, I get it wrong. But as I was writing my Mega
Man/Mario Kart analysis, there just seems to be too much stacked
against MM to win. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:04:26 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I remember how big of a deal it was, and it wasn't as big as SSBM or FFX. Heck, Metroid games seem to do decently in GotY polls anyway regardless. Sonic seems to do badly in GotY polls anyway, so I don't see why this is a point. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=32 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1127 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869 Plus, for salt on the wound: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=772 --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:05:54 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, the odds do seem to favor MK when you examine deepr and deeper
into it -- I just hope it's not one of those matches where looking deep
into it will cost us a match. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:07:19 PM | message detail |
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Well, I just changed my bracket for the first time, so now I have
Mario Kart > Mega Man. I've wanted to be stubborn about changing my
bracket because it seems like every time I let the board change my mind
from my initial pick, I get it wrong. But as I was writing my Mega
Man/Mario Kart analysis, there just seems to be too much stacked
against MM to win. yeah, I feel this way too. it's like "Mario Kart logically should win... but it just feels wrong. my main worry is that I'm overthinking it and Mega Man should win just because of name recognition. --- xyzzy "I was scared of that match because I thought Magus was over-confiscated for in his match against Crono." -Tai |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:08:36 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38 And Wrestlemania beats out Sonic and Smash Brothers. What's your point? Besides, the Sonic Advance games weren't that big anyway, so using those GBA polls doesn't tell me much. However, seeing them lose those Dreamcast polls is interesting, I must say. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:09:10 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man doesn't have more name recognition than Mario, though. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:09:42 PM | message detail |
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Mario and Mario Kart aren't the same though. --- xyzzy "I was scared of that match because I thought Magus was over-confiscated for in his match against Crono." -Tai |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:10:03 PM | message detail |
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And Mario Kart is perhaps the most popular "side series" ever,
sales-wises, so Mega Man won't beat it solely on name recognition. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:11:10 PM | message detail |
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Name recognition works for characters. It doesn't work for games,
especially against something like Mario Kart. Mega Man will have to
earn that win. I simply don't think his games are really that popular on this site. Remember, it doesn't take that
much to become a popular character. You'd expect Mega Man to have some
popularity compared to your average character. Games are totally
different. Your average game as far as recognition is concerned can
become GotY on this site (God of War). Popular games really have to
earn it on this site. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:13:47 PM | message detail |
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It's not my fault CJay didn't have more Sonic games in GotY polls; I'm
still surprised he didn't make Shadow The Hedgehog an option in last
year's Multi-Platform GotY poll, especially considering GameFAQs had
advertised for it on the PotD for awhile, for example. Regardless, just signs that we haven't seen Sonic do anything good yet in a GotY poll. Wrestlemania deserved to beat them out, by the way..... --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:14:57 PM | message detail |
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Wrestlemania deserved to beat them out, by the way..... Well, duh, but that wasn't the point. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:16:36 PM | message detail |
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Had to say it. Carry on. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:20:41 PM | message detail |
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Interesting that you'd change to Mario Kart > Mega Man while so
fanatically defending Sonic > SSB. The situations are very similar,
wouldn't you say? What advantages does Sonic have that Mega Man
doesn't... or alternatively, what makes Mario Kart more of a threat
than SSB? Of course, I have a similar situation in my bracket, but that's really making me think twice about the Mega Man/Mario Kart match. I feel inconsistent, here. I mean I do think Mega Man > Sonic (we can't find as many examples of/reasons for Mega Man weakness out there) and Mario Kart isn't going to be quite what it's hyped up to be... but yeah. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:22:24 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=774 An interesting poll. Name recognition meant nothing in this particular GBA poll. A Mario Kart game, a Mega Man game, and a Mario game in the poll and they all get trounced by the likes of Golden Sun? I know the vote totals were unimpressive, but still... --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:22:25 PM | message detail |
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What advantages does Sonic have that Mega Man doesn't One single series. Of course, people who are supporting Mega Man are insisting that people will vote for EVERY series put together, but...not buying it. Mega Man may be a Noble Niner, but I wouldn't say the bulk of his popularity comes from Classic. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:23:21 PM | message detail |
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Super Circuit is probably the least popular Mario Kart anyway. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:23:53 PM | message detail |
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people underestimate Golden Sun here. think about MC/Felix in 2k3 and
then look at that poll. GS was the premiere RPG on the GBA and was one
of the reasons people bought one. --- xyzzy "I was scared of that match because I thought Magus was over-confiscated for in his match against Crono." -Tai |
| Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:24:14 PM | message detail |
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Maybe Felix really is a stud here and MC wasn't look as bad as we thought... heh heh. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:25:28 PM | message detail |
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Well, 40% on Aeris in 2003 wasn't really THAT bad. However, Master
Chief is hardly a transitive character. I doubt he was then either. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:25:46 PM | message detail |
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Don't forget a Castlevania series, too. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:26:27 PM | message detail |
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Wasn't look as bad as we thought... good gawd. My typing is getting
worse lately. I think supporting DMC like this is unleashing my inner
ertyu. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:26:30 PM | message detail |
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Screw Golden Sun; they all got beaten by Advance Wars. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/18/2006 8:27:36 PM | message detail |
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Except for Circle of the Moon! --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/18/2006 8:28:16 PM | message detail |
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SSB will beat Sonic so easily, but if he pulls the upset... Greatest Contest Moment Ever. ;_; --- Your score is: FAIL http://www.utdallas.edu/~mxs015000/cgi-bin/evaluation.pl |
| transience | Posted 6/18/2006 8:28:30 PM | message detail |
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well Super Circuit was just terrible. the control was awful. so was the F-Zero game that came out at launch. --- xyzzy "I was scared of that match because I thought Magus was over-confiscated for in his match against Crono." -Tai |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/18/2006 8:29:34 PM | message detail |
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The one lingering question I have about Mario Kart that still makes me
wonder is this: I know it's essentially a universally liked series, but
how many consider it a "favorite?" Bringing up that GotY poll made me
think of that. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| MnMZero | Posted 6/18/2006 8:31:09 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1127 Voters aren't stupid! They aren't voting for simple ports in these polls. Also, two Mario games, a Mega Man game, and a Sonic game all got trounced. Metroid Fusion FTW! It's interesting that LttP did so well. Perhaps an added GBA fanbase is a reason why it's done so well in the Spring Contest and Top 100 list. --- *Is therealmnm* Proud Supporter of Zero in SC2k5 |
| Lopen | Posted 6/18/2006 8:31:14 PM | message detail |
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My thoughts on it exactly. Mario Kart = Pac Man, you watch... ha ha ha ha... (Okay, maybe not that bad) --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/18/2006 8:31:22 PM | message detail |
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CJayC Coincidence? I think not. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/18/2006 8:31:22 PM | message detail |
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