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transients | Posted 6/15/2006 1:20:59 PM | message detail
and I'd definitely take DoS over Earthbound or Pac-Man. I don't think the rest of the series would be all that strong, but DoS would break the "fodder line".

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 1:21:26 PM | message detail
That's not really relevant. The strength of MM and SF both comes from the broad variety rather than original games. IIRC, no MM game has more than 2 million sales, but the series is still over 20 million. The situation with SF is similar, except with more focus on SF2.

It wasn't really an argument to be taken all that seriously, because sales really don't equate into strength. I was just throwing it out there that RE4 had pretty much beaten every Street Fighter game with the exception of SFII.

And yeah, no Mega Man game sold over a million (Mega Man 2 came close with 1.5 million, which happens to be the highest selling MM game). Mega Man and Street Fighter do tend to have that insane quantity that has built up so that they'll over 20 million in sales even with low sales of any individual title. That said, Resident Evil still is Capcom's highest selling franchise by about 4 million (MM and SF tied for second).

Although it is notable that Street Fighter II, and all the various versions of SFFII, account for 14 million of the 24 total milloin sales.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 1:23:15 PM | message detail
Yeah. DoS was the only one that I was considering making an exception for when I thought about matches between EarthBound/Pac-Man and any Castlevania game.

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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 6/15/2006 1:27:50 PM | message detail
Damnit, I'm staring at the bracket and I just can't find something BIG to happen like in every contest. I can't see any significant upsets. Sure, there are some toss-ups and such, but they only affect one round at best. I can't find that potential dark horse that goes over not 1;but, 2 series unexpectantly. Everything just seems so....

Cookie Cutter.
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 1:29:13 PM | message detail
It'll be Devil May Cry over Sonic and SSB.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2006 1:30:55 PM | message detail
Lopen has hijacked HM's account!
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transients | Posted 6/15/2006 1:41:09 PM | message detail
not even Lopen would take DMC over SSB. that's saying something.
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 1:41:17 PM | message detail
Like I'd go for that one. The original is where it's at.

Fill your dark bracket with LIIIGGHHHTTT!!
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 1:43:32 PM | message detail
I'll have you know I overhype Dante and Dante related products to reasonable levels. I didn't take Dante over Crono, did I? No, never! As I've said before, he'll need DMC4 for that!!
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/15/2006 1:51:37 PM | message detail
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 2:58:44 PM | message detail
So, if I'm correct, the main reason that Resident Evil > Street Fighter is a "lock" here is because of this poll, right? (And because said poll is pre-RE4)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454

But, I'm not so sure about that. I think that at the time of this poll, Street Fighter has the advantage. RE is only beating it by a small amount, and I think a pretty strong majority of the Mega Man voters would take Street Fighter as their second favorite. Does this not make sense to you? They're both "old school", both iconic series. Have SF vs RE back then and I bet SF wins 60-40. RE4 will help quite a bit, but I hardly think RE is a lock, at all.

This poll doesn't so much make me fear SF > RE as it does DMC > Sonic really... heh heh.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 2:59:43 PM | message detail
This poll doesn't so much make me fear SF > RE as it does DMC > Sonic really... heh heh.

Wasn't that poll pre-DMC3 though as well?
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trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2006 2:59:59 PM | message detail
I'll be surprised if SF gets even close to RE.. assuming it beats Elder Scrolls.
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 3:01:03 PM | message detail
You bring up a strong point. DMC probably would fare better in a similar poll held today.

Thank you for calming my doubts about my "absurd upset pick", Ed.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 3:02:04 PM | message detail
Hey, any time! Us off-the-beaten-path predictors have to think together. ;-)
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trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2006 3:02:27 PM | message detail
when you're empathizing with Lopen, you know you're done for!
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 3:03:00 PM | message detail
*points proudly to Ed Bellis Award*
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/15/2006 3:03:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, ease your nerves Lopen. DMC would probably push 9% if that poll was taken again!!
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/15/2006 3:06:56 PM | message detail
lol DMC
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 3:09:41 PM | message detail
Are you telling me you also took DMC > Sonic, Ed? Go put your bracket on the BOP! My DMC > Sonic pick is lonely! It's freaking sad that more people are picking Suikoden > Mega Man X than DMC > Sonic. Sad!

(Much greater than 9%. Mo like 12... maybe 13%, yeah! Did you see that huge Dante boost from DMC3! And rightfully so!)
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trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2006 3:30:15 PM | message detail
DMC will be lucky to break 40%!

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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 3:34:02 PM | message detail
Prediction %age? I agree. I'm thinking it'll be in the low 20s at best there.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/15/2006 3:45:11 PM | message detail
FACT: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

FACT: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

FACT: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

FACT: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

FACT: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.

FICTION: LoZ will break 90% on Civilization.

FACT: There will be a bizarre SFF/rSFF amongst Metroid, Kirby, and Pokemon.

FICTION: SH/FE will be the closest Round 1 match.

FICTION: GTA will at least double WarCraft.

FICTION: Sonic would do better against SMB than against SSB.

FICTION: Elder Scrolls could beat WarCraft.

FICTION: Elder Scrolls could beat Diablo.

FICTION: Megaman X would do within 2% as Mega Man will do against SMK.

FACT: Resident Evil would beat Halo.

FACT: Resident Evil would beat Castlevania.

FICTION: SMB has a better chance at beating FF than LoZ has at beating FF.


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TransgenderLove | Posted 6/15/2006 3:56:14 PM | message detail
So, if I'm correct, the main reason that Resident Evil > Street Fighter is a "lock" here is because of this poll, right? (And because said poll is pre-RE4)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454

But, I'm not so sure about that. I think that at the time of this poll, Street Fighter has the advantage. RE is only beating it by a small amount, and I think a pretty strong majority of the Mega Man voters would take Street Fighter as their second favorite. Does this not make sense to you? They're both "old school", both iconic series. Have SF vs RE back then and I bet SF wins 60-40. RE4 will help quite a bit, but I hardly think RE is a lock, at all.

This poll doesn't so much make me fear SF > RE as it does DMC > Sonic really... heh heh.


That's actually a really good point, but I'll choose to ignore it completely and take Elder Scrolls over it.

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smitelf | Posted 6/15/2006 3:58:30 PM | message detail
FICTION: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

FACT: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

FICTION: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

FICTION: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

FACT: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.

FICTION: LoZ will break 90% on Civilization.

FICTION: There will be a bizarre SFF/rSFF amongst Metroid, Kirby, and Pokemon.

FICTION: SH/FE will be the closest Round 1 match.

FICTION: GTA will at least double WarCraft.

FICTION: Sonic would do better against SMB than against SSB.

FICTION: Elder Scrolls could beat WarCraft.

FICTION: Elder Scrolls could beat Diablo.

FACT: Megaman X would do within 2% as Mega Man will do against SMK.

FACT: Resident Evil would beat Halo.

FACT: Resident Evil would beat Castlevania.

FICTION: SMB has a better chance at beating FF than LoZ has at beating FF.
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smitelf | Posted 6/15/2006 3:59:48 PM | message detail
Bah, I meant to say FACT for SMB breaking 40% on FF.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/15/2006 4:50:45 PM | message detail
For the 27 of you who predicted which series would make the Contest, I took over for Rodri and calced the results. They can now be found at...

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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 4:51:22 PM | message detail
It seems that nobody except for the Sonic detractors thinks that Sonic 2 is his strongest game, and people seem to want to make constant reference to it.

For the record, I love Sonic and want to see it do well. That said, while Sonic 2 probably isn't its strongest rep, it's still in, say, the top three reps of it (S2, S&K, and SA2B), and there's not any big decisive advantage between any of the three that gives one a sure-fire lead. I'm guessing it's #3 of the bunch, but I don't think its strength is far behind the others at all.


It's hard for it to be more likely for SotN to be SFF'd when it's pretty much obvious in both cases.

Okay, fine, equally likely...but C:SotN was likely behind more SFF.


In reference to the top 100 list, Sonic's fanbase is much more split than Castlevania's fanbase as to what's the best game (we've already seen Symphony of the Night nearly take half the vote in a best game poll while no other game broke 10% there).

None even broke 8%, heh. That said, both series only had one game in the drop-down box, and all I'm using it for is to say that Sonic 2 may not have been as "SFF'd" as many of us think, if any at all (I'm not willing to go that far with it, but, who knows). That same split would also take part in contest strength if they're really that split, so I don't see it as a factor.



All I'm saying is this: hardly anybody would take Castlevania over SSB, and Castlevania would do more than roll over and die to Sonic -- it actually would be a pretty good battle (though I'd take Sonic). I am not trying to use Sonic 2 as the Sonic series' strongest rep, but I think it is not so likely that Sonic 2 was "SFF'd" much by SMW, and I don't believe S&K or SA2B would be oh-so much stronger...plus C:SotN is SFF'd more, anyway, enough to where it could probably beat any two Sonic reps. The rest of its series has spanned so many systems over so many years and are still fairly well-received, and Castlevania would have a good case to take on Sonic (again though, I'd take Sonic)...

...but nobody would take Castlevania over SSB -- nobody would even give a second thought -- so I don't see why there's such a fuss about Sonic/SSB.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:28:37 PM | message detail
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Maybe you think so, but I have no reason to believe that Castlevania would get near Sonic. I wouldn't even give a second thought on picking Sonic in that match and almost laugh at anyone who thought it would be close.


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Applause Sign | Posted 6/15/2006 5:30:26 PM | message detail
Well this is awkward.

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LordOfDabu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:38:26 PM | message detail
Nintendo's dominance in today's poll honestly makes me question FF > LoZ.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:39:28 PM | message detail
All I'm saying is this: hardly anybody would take Castlevania over SSB, and Castlevania would do more than roll over and die to Sonic -- it actually would be a pretty good battle (though I'd take Sonic).

What on earth makes you think Castlevania would give Sonic a good fight? Castlevania has maybe two games that would rank above the fodder line, the rest would varying degrees of fodder. It has one popular entry in the series ... and that's it. I have no clue where people got the idea that Castlevania would be a strong series because there just hasn't been any indication of that at all. The only things that have enjoyed even remote success are directly linked to Symphony of the Night. Even Alucard has not been nearly as strong as he used to while we're at it.

I am not trying to use Sonic 2 as the Sonic series' strongest rep, but I think it is not so likely that Sonic 2 was "SFF'd" much by SMW, and I don't believe S&K or SA2B would be oh-so much stronger...plus C:SotN is SFF'd more, anyway, enough to where it could probably beat any two Sonic reps.

... Are you kidding me? You'd have to be crazy to think Sonic 2 didn't receive a good beating of SFF in that match. Have you seen the games Sonic 2 ends up around? Unless you have a hard time choosing between Sonic 2 and Mortal Kombat or Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, then Sonic received some pretty significant SFF. And there's certainly no way Chrono Trigger even thinks about approaching 75% on it.

And, uh, I'd like to know how high you think Goldeneye moves up to where SotN likely suffers more SFF than Sonic 2. You're putting waaay too much importance into that Top 100 list if you think it's that significant. And I wouldn't take SotN over SA2 by any means. That's just not gonna happen.

The rest of its series has spanned so many systems over so many years and are still fairly well-received, and Castlevania would have a good case to take on Sonic (again though, I'd take Sonic)...

It has spanned many systems, and that's about the extent to where you think it'll be receiving power. I can't say that Castlevania is a series that gets much benefit from combining all of the different games because they're just all so weak. The vast majority of the votes it gets now will likely be based off of Symphony of the Night as it is. You're really underestimating Sonic if you think Castlevania gives it a close match.

...but nobody would take Castlevania over SSB -- nobody would even give a second thought -- so I don't see why there's such a fuss about Sonic/SSB.

Because Castlevania wouldn't beat Sonic nor SSB, maybe? It wouldn't even get close on either one.

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/15/2006 5:39:40 PM | message detail
Nintendo's dominance in today's poll honestly makes me question FF > LoZ.

Your dominance in questioning obvious matches makes me question your ability to... call... obvious matches...!

Take that Lord Of Dabu!!!
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:40:15 PM | message detail
Nintendo's dominance in today's poll honestly makes me question FF > LoZ.

Why? Square's not present in the poll.

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Applause Sign | Posted 6/15/2006 5:40:18 PM | message detail
Why? It's not a site change to favoring Nintendo, if you ask people what systems the own and whatnot, PS2 will still heavily dominate. This is specifically talking about E3 and next gen. I thought it was pretty obvious what with the 18.9 million polls we got on it after E3 was over.

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trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2006 5:41:14 PM | message detail
people actually think there's a single Sonic game stronger than SOTN?
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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 5:42:09 PM | message detail
Unless you have a hard time choosing between Sonic 2 and Mortal Kombat

I would... is that wrong?
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/15/2006 5:42:16 PM | message detail
people actually think there's a single Sonic game stronger than SOTN?

Sonic 3 & Knuckles (which doesn't actually exist since GameFAQs doesn't have a listing of the combination) could have a shot at matching SOTN.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:42:35 PM | message detail
people actually think there's a single Sonic game stronger than SOTN?

... Uh, yeah. I think it's funny that people think the opposite. I almost wish we never got that Top 100 list. People use that thing way too much. Sheesh.

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That was for tranny BTW.

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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 5:43:03 PM | message detail
people actually think there's a single Sonic game stronger than SOTN?

Uh, yeah. SA2B, Sonic's strongest game, could easily match SOTN in strength, IMO.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:43:16 PM | message detail
I would... is that wrong?

Well, you are Lopen, so probably not. =p

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Also, if we're going to take into account spanning multiple systems:

AMI Prince of Persia --- Code --- --- Board
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GBC Prince of Persia --- Code --- Review Board
GEN Prince of Persia FAQ Code --- --- Board
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NES Prince of Persia FAQ Code --- Review Board
PC Prince of Persia FAQ Code --- Review Board
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SNES Prince of Persia FAQ Code --- Review Board
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And that's just the original. PoP FTW!


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trannyscience | Posted 6/15/2006 5:43:32 PM | message detail
I'd take SOTN over any Sonic game and not think twice. I'm not saying Castlevania wins that, but SOTN has done nothing but show it's stronger than every Sonic game.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/15/2006 5:44:33 PM | message detail

... Uh, yeah. I think it's funny that people think the opposite. I almost wish we never got that Top 100 list. People use that thing way too much. Sheesh.


I'd say it's probably a pretty good guide actually. For example, it shows that SC's "rally" was probably less significant than we thought, and rallies only work on games with enough strength to win anyway.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 5:44:42 PM | message detail
I'd take SOTN over any Sonic game and not think twice. I'm not saying Castlevania wins that, but SOTN has done nothing but show it's stronger than every Sonic game.

Do not reference the Top 100 list.

Now tell me where Symphony of the Night has shown to be stronger than every Sonic game.

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Lopen | Posted 6/15/2006 5:44:49 PM | message detail
I'd still end up taking Sonic 2, but not komfortably.

I'd take Mortal Kombat 2 over Sonic 2 in a klose one.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/15/2006 5:45:24 PM | message detail
EC, we alrady know that Prince of Persia would beat Final Fantasy with 80% if it had made the contest.
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