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Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:44:33 PM | message detail
Well, Cait Sith is a giant moogle... or is it the cat that's Cait Sith? What the hell IS Cait Sith?

Seriously, knowing that, I'd favor the chocobo over the moogle, methinks.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:45:55 PM | message detail
Cait Sith is the cat. The "mog," as it's called in FFVII, doesn't appear in Advent Children. Cait Sith's ride hardly looks like an average moogle (and it's never called one), so I'd hardly expect that to help.
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Gingunkungadunk | Posted 6/14/2006 9:47:10 PM | message detail
...I really have no idea why people think that. Ridley actually broke the fodder line.

Well, I'm actually quite confident that a Metroid would be pretty strong, IE not fodder. The Metroid is one of the coolest generic enemies ever created, and there are several Metroids that are important to the story as well. The encounters with Metroids are some of the most memorable parts of pretty much every Metroid game.

Moogles have an advantage in Mog...but I'd probably still take Metroid over Moogle.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:48:28 PM | message detail
I just can't see a generic metroid giving Kefka a struggle. I really can't.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:49:34 PM | message detail
Oh, AC. I'm not there quite yet.

I wonder just how many people did like me the first time they played FF7 and managed to give the Zolom the middle finger without picking up a chocobo, especially with everything from Midgar to the swamp basically telling you "GET A CHOCOBO, DUMBASS".

And as far as FF6 goes, man were chocobos ever useless. lol WoR.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:50:37 PM | message detail
I tried to run the swamp once, but the Zolom always killed me with Beta.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 9:51:45 PM | message detail
A Metroid beating a Moogle? No, I don't see it. Moogles are actual characters, and they do have a character that people like in Mog... It's basically going to be Mog vs. a Metroid. I don't see a Metroid being the victor...
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Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:53:11 PM | message detail
I ran the swamp successfully on my first try. It was really close though.

Speaking of the Zolom, I bet it'd get a lot of support from board 8. Just imagine if there was ever such a contest, and the nominations were limited to board 8 like they were just now... I'd imagine Zolomy'd get a pretty high seed.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:54:49 PM | message detail
I imagine CJayC wouldn't accept it. CATS seems to be the only joke character he allows (as per his "FAQ" from 2004).
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Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:56:00 PM | message detail
When I meant "such a contest", I meant a generic character contest. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough.
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Big Bob | Posted 6/14/2006 9:58:15 PM | message detail
Ooo, are we talking about generic enemy baddies?

Slime (Dragon Quest) vs. Metool (Mega Man)! Go!
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:58:27 PM | message detail
Ah, I see. I wouldn't mind a generic character contest, even if it would be even more fodderific than the Villains Contest. At least it'd be unpredictable. There wouldn't even be a clear finals, which is something that's nearly impossible in any other contest.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:59:35 PM | message detail
I don't think it's such a good idea, but it's something fun to think about.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 10:00:54 PM | message detail
Koopa Troopa FTW! I'd imagine Mario enemies would clean house in that contest. Goomba, Boo, Pirahna Plant, and Koopa Troopa would probably all be "relative" powerhouses when compared to baddies from other series...
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 10:02:23 PM | message detail
That's true. The Mario series has a lot of "generic mainstays." What would be the strongest generic Zelda character anyway?

*expects joke responses of Link*
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/14/2006 10:02:41 PM | message detail
Moblins!
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therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 10:05:09 PM | message detail
The Moblin is probably the generic enemy of the series, although the ReDead is probably the most popular in the series due to OoT and SSBM.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 10:07:35 PM | message detail
I was pretty ecstatic that the Moblins returned in The Wind Waker. They were pretty hilarious in that game. Actually all of the enemies were pretty animated in that game.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 10:38:15 PM | message detail
Octoroks!

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Janus5000 | Posted 6/14/2006 10:41:36 PM | message detail
Cuckoos totally own those other lamers.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/14/2006 10:50:03 PM | message detail
Chickens, Goombas, Chocobos, and -- with no doubt in my mind -- the bomb-running rats from Battletoads would make the Final Four.
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SquallidSnake | Posted 6/14/2006 10:56:09 PM | message detail
Nothing from Battletoads would make it due to the nightmares the games gave people.

Except for possibly those Amazon women you had to grab by the hair, kick in the butt a couple of times, and then slam them around.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2006 12:30:23 AM | message detail
My my, I expected Nintendo to win this poll, but with nearly 50% of the vote? Impressive.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 12:44:30 AM | message detail
Too bad it won't last, and too bad it won't be true.

I shouldn't really be saying that, but Playstation doesn't do much for me outside of MGS (which is Konami's baby, not Sony's) and Xbox doesn't do much for me outside of Halo (though still more for me than the PS's). Nintendo's not failed me yet.
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transience | Posted 6/15/2006 12:47:14 AM | message detail
question: anyone know what happened to Liberty City Stories on the FAQ list? it's basically disappeared. it's #2 on the PS2 FAQs, above SA, but it's nowhere to be found except for the PSP version.

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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 12:50:26 AM | message detail
hax

Seriously, no idea.
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jonthomson | Posted 6/15/2006 6:16:08 AM | message detail
Generic enemies? Pig Cop of DN3D FTW!
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 8:04:12 AM | message detail
I just got to thinking about how Sonic may do this contest; for those of you who think Sonic will win or will take SSB to the wire, how would you feel about SSB/Castlevania? As far as the Game Contest goes, C:SotN is already a lil' bit ahead of Sonic 2, and C:SotN is likely more SFF'd because of GE/LoZ:OoT than Sonic was because of SMW. Furthermore, the Top 100 List shows C:SotN at #15 while Sonic 2 is at #38. To go further, I believe Castlevania has spanned more systems and generations than Sonic...so, with all things considered, Castlevania should be able to put up a very good showing against Sonic, at least. Would any of you think Castlevania could pull that same good showing against SSB?
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 8:05:39 AM | message detail
And what I was originally trying to get at in that post was that Sonic 2 might not be behind something fishy, or not as much as people like to think anyway.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 8:05:40 AM | message detail
I'd take Sonic over Castlevania, but I'd also take Devil May Cry over Castlevania too.

>_>
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therealmnm | Posted 6/15/2006 8:11:59 AM | message detail
I'd probably take Sonic over Castlevania. I definitely wouldn't take DMC over Castlevania though. Castlevania has more roots and is far more widespread. Devil May Cry doesn't have enough to take over Castlevania's widespread popularity.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 8:12:34 AM | message detail
...actually, I'd have to think about Sonic/Castlevania a bit more. The problem is (as has been stated repeatedly) I don't think Sonic 2 is Sonic's strongest game; it's probably Sonic Adventure 2: Battle. Hell, I'd assume Sonic 3 & Knuckles to be stronger than Sonic 2. Taking that into consideration, there's a fair amount of room between SotN and Sonic 2 for the most popular Sonic game to fall into. It'd definitely be a tough match to predict; I think Sonic would have the advantage and would be the safe pick, though.

...but considering how you asked about Castlevania/Smash (yay reading comprehension!), I'd expect Castlevania to probably do just as well against Smash - if not better - than Sonic. I expect some degree of SFF in Smash/Sonic, and I don't think Castlevania would have those problems.
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jonthomson | Posted 6/15/2006 8:12:53 AM | message detail
I just got to thinking about how Sonic may do this contest; for those of you who think Sonic will win or will take SSB to the wire, how would you feel about SSB/Castlevania?

SSB, obv

As far as the Game Contest goes, C:SotN is already a lil' bit ahead of Sonic 2, and C:SotN is likely more SFF'd because of GE/LoZ:OoT than Sonic was because of SMW.

lol no
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 8:57:02 AM | message detail
SSB, obv

My point.


lol no

C:SotN - 20.27%
Sonic 2 - 20.15%

As of 2004, the unadjusted stats already show C:SotN has a very slight edge. Then, from there, why would Goldeneye 007 not be SFF'd by the second-biggest game here as much as Sonic's #1/2/3 game against arguably Mario's #2/3/4 game? The Top 100 List helps support my case -- very few people on the board expected Goldeneye to get into the Top Ten, and C:SotN brought home #15 while Sonic 2 got #38. Hell, Perfect Dark got #44, and GE > C:SotN > PD in both the contest and on the Top 100 List.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 8:57:57 AM | message detail
...what exactly were the adjusted games stats based on?
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Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/15/2006 8:59:19 AM | message detail
...what exactly were the adjusted games stats based on?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

No, I'm serious, it says that on the site.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/15/2006 8:59:54 AM | message detail
Guesswork and magic.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 9:20:59 AM | message detail
I know I would take Devil May Cry over Castlevania.

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TheSonyCorp | Posted 6/15/2006 9:31:11 AM | message detail
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 10:37:06 PM | message detail
We don't need the Nomination Rally Board on the links page because it's only needed seasonally.

Besides, you don't see me asking for my Nomination Rally Tournament winners topic.


Meh. Alright.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2006 9:56:42 AM | message detail
PLEASE STOP USING SONIC 2 AS A BASIS FOR SONIC'S STRENGTH!

It seems that nobody except for the Sonic detractors thinks that Sonic 2 is his strongest game, and people seem to want to make constant reference to it.

As far as the Game Contest goes, C:SotN is already a lil' bit ahead of Sonic 2, and C:SotN is likely more SFF'd because of GE/LoZ:OoT than Sonic was because of SMW.

It's hard for it to be more likely for SotN to be SFF'd when it's pretty much obvious in both cases.

In reference to the top 100 list, Sonic's fanbase is much more split than Castlevania's fanbase as to what's the best game (we've already seen Symphony of the Night nearly take half the vote in a best game poll while no other game broke 10% there).

"Oh, but wouldn't Sonic fans be likely to support Sonic 2 because it was the only game on the drop-down list?"

Would they? I can't speak for all of them, but I know I didn't. I wrote in Sonic & Knuckles.
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TransgenderLove | Posted 6/15/2006 10:02:14 AM | message detail
It's rather difficult for any new character to be a big shot these days. Other than Dante and Master Chief, it's hard to name one.

Auron and Sora!

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Big Bob | Posted 6/15/2006 10:02:14 AM | message detail
I wrote in S&K, AND Sonic 3, just to make sure one of them made the list.

Which neither did. And S&K >>>>>> Sonic 2

Hell, I think Sonic ADVENTURE 2 could beat Sonic 2 in a direct matchup.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/15/2006 10:03:03 AM | message detail
As do I. I don't think Sonic Adventure 2 would be a weakling. I could see it beating quite a few games.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 10:08:48 AM | message detail
There are definitely two games who I think would be noticeably stronger than Sonic 2, which were already mentioned (S3&K and SA2).

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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/15/2006 10:11:54 AM | message detail
Ooh, I wanna try this!

FACT or FICTION: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

FACT or FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

FACT or FICTION: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

FACT or FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

FACT or FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

FACT or FICTION: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

FACT or FICTION: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FACT or FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

FACT or FICTION: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

FACT or FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/15/2006 10:15:24 AM | message detail
FACT: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

FICTION: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

I'm banking on little to no SFF between MMX/LoZ.

FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

FACT: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

(I hope so at least)

FACT: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

FACT: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.

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SquallidSnake | Posted 6/15/2006 10:16:17 AM | message detail
I've got to wonder how strong Sonic 3 & Knuckles would be in a Games Contest (if CJayC would even allow it). The two combine for 34% in the favorite Sonic game poll. Also interesting to note that Sonic Adventure 2 isn't very far behind Sonic 2, and this was BEFORE being ported to the 'Cube.

Also, very interesting to note for those of you who think Shadow is "hated..." He came in next to last (behind only Rouge) in "Who is your least favorite Sonic Adventure character?" and he was an easy 3rd place in the favorite character poll. Honestly, there's more to his appeal than just being a Sonic proxy.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/15/2006 10:17:05 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

Hmm... I'll say fact.

FACT or FICTION: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

Easy fact, given that X will be behind SFF.

FACT or FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

Probably fiction.

FACT or FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

EASY fact.

FACT or FICTION: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

Fiction.

FACT or FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.

Fact.

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SquallidSnake | Posted 6/15/2006 10:17:58 AM | message detail
FACT: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

FICTION: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

FACT: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

FICTION: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

FACT: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

FACT: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.
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TransgenderLove | Posted 6/15/2006 10:18:12 AM | message detail
FACT or FICTION: SMB will break 40% on Final Fantasy.

Close, but fact.

FACT or FICTION: Grand Theft Auto (or Warcraft, if you insist) will break 40% on SMB.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Mega Man X will end up ranking below Mega Man in the unadjusted stats.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Soul Calibur will rank ahead of Street Fighter in the unadjusted stats.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: The closest Round One match will be Halo/Castlevania.

Fiction.

FACT or FICTION: If Halo and Kingdom Hearts switched spots, nobody would assume Castlevania would have a chance against Kingdom Hearts.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Diablo would beat Warcraft in a one-on-one match.

FACT.

FACT or FICTION: The highest-ranked Capcom franchise in the contest will be Resident Evil.

Fact... ehhhhhhh.

FACT or FICTION: Final Fantasy/Legend of Zelda will not be as close as FF7/OoT.

I think it'll be the same, so fiction.

FACT or FICTION: Half-Life would beat Mega Man X.

Fiction.

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