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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 292
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XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:08:33 PM | message detail |
Seeing my name to a Contest Stats topic will frazzle my brain. *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13 Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14 Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15 SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16 Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17 SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18 Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27 Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/32 SFF Adjusted Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/33 All Time Extrapolated Standings: http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexstats.htm *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, save for three from 2002: http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists: http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251 HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html !yawa tsoP --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/14/2006 12:10:03 PM | message detail |
MOVIN ON UP --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
TheSonyCorp | Posted 6/14/2006 12:10:45 PM | message detail |
... I don't see my board. I'm sad now. --- SephirothG Risen from Purgatory |
XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:12:02 PM | message detail |
I thought about it, G, but I cou;dn't find the address to put it
in. Post the link in this topic so the next person can put it back in,
maybe? It'll only be like a day anyway. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:40:08 PM | message detail |
This has to be the slowest stats topic...ever. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/14/2006 12:45:40 PM | message detail |
OMG WTF HOW DAERE YUO ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
Lopen | Posted 6/14/2006 12:46:26 PM | message detail |
Good, people shouldn't be posting in this one until the other one fills up anyway. Yes, I realize the ironing in this post is delicious !! --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:46:39 PM | message detail |
*is arrested* --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
TheSonyCorp | Posted 6/14/2006 2:11:28 PM | message detail |
Nomination Rally Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012 --- SephirothG Risen from Purgatory |
XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 4:24:33 PM | message detail |
Cool. bump. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
plasmabeam | Posted 6/14/2006 4:25:15 PM | message detail |
Majora's Mask > Wind Waker --- Chinese Democracy - April 2006 (Let's hope) Jacksonville Jaguars (12-5) Eliminated from playoffs |
Applause Sign | Posted 6/14/2006 6:53:28 PM | message detail |
WHAT THE CRUNK WHY WOULD XIII POST THIS TOPIC HE HAS NO RIGHT. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 7:37:06 PM | message detail |
We don't need the Nomination Rally Board on the links page because it's only needed seasonally. Besides, you don't see me asking for my Nomination Rally Tournament winners topic. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Yesmar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:22:44 PM | message detail |
Here's a repost of what I said at the very end of the last topic in regard to Midna: Since when did character design play such a huge role in character popularity? Sure it plays some role, but if Midna does have a substantial role in TP, I doubt her character design would matter much. We've never seen any lesser Zelda characters in a contest before, so it's really hard to judge anyway. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:23:29 PM | message detail |
Midna should do decently just having the Zelda name behind her. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:23:53 PM | message detail |
Actually, I remember the days when we were arguing about whether Epona would break the fodder line. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
dragoontheguy | Posted 6/14/2006 8:29:30 PM | message detail |
Epona is probably the weakest zelda character that could feasibly get
into a contest. I'd almost want to see both epona and cait sith get
into a contest just to see how badly a zelda character and an ff7
character can possibly do. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/14/2006 8:30:06 PM | message detail |
LeonhartForever Posted 6/14/2006 10:37:06 PM message detail #013 We don't need the Nomination Rally Board on the links page because it's only needed seasonally. Or that it's not needed period. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 8:30:17 PM | message detail |
Hey now, I'd consider Epona > Tingle at least. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:30:24 PM | message detail |
Since when did character design play such a huge role in character popularity? Shadow (another character on the list of fairly strong characters from this generation) undoubtedly got many votes because of his insanely ****ing awesome pictures in the 2k3 contest. And at this point, what other than character design can we judge Midna on? Her design certainly stands out, and is definitely worth commenting on. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:30:37 PM | message detail |
I don't mean the link. I mean the board itself. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
dragoontheguy | Posted 6/14/2006 8:30:46 PM | message detail |
Just how important is midna in TP, or do we not know yet? Is she going
to be kind of like navi, except considerably less annoying from what we
know? --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:32:57 PM | message detail |
Well, the best comparison I can think of is that she would be like
Sheik, plot-wise. When in the Twilight Realm, she rides on Link's back
and you use her to fight, IIRC. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 8:33:18 PM | message detail |
Midna should do decently just having the Zelda name behind her. Possibly, but a character also has to be likable enough to amass a fanbase. I don't care how many million-sellers he's been in; Tingle ain't beating anyone. Unless I'm forgetting a few people, here's a list of all the "new" characters to ever achieve some success in a contest setting: Master Chief Dante Tommy Vercetti Kratos Midna doesn't seem like she'd belong in that group (to say the very least). This may seem like a zany, off-the-wall theory, but perhaps when it comes down to the more childish, cartoon-like characters, gamers have long since decided who they like and who they won't care about. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 8:34:41 PM | message detail |
Hmm... I guess Shadow is new enough to be thrown in that list, but come
on! He's a Sonic proxy! I could see Dark Link tearing the house down in
a contest, and that's basically what Shadow is (only with more 'tude
and his own game). --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:35:17 PM | message detail |
Possibly, but a character also has to be likable enough to amass a fanbase. Well, I know that. I was under the assumption that she wouldn't completely suck like Navi or Tingle when I made the statement. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Kaxon | Posted 6/14/2006 8:36:11 PM | message detail |
Whew, finally caught up with the stats topic. <once-per-contest plug> Most of you have already seen it, but for those that haven't, the Oracle Challenge is open for this contest: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28558310 Since people in the stats topic like to analyze the contests in detail, you all are pretty much the target audience for this contest (although a lot of other b8ers get in on the fun too). The Oracle was originally created by solarshadow, who also created the stats topic. So if you haven't tried it before, give it a shot, it's a lot of fun and it's the best way to measure your predictive skills against the rest of the board. </plug> --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
Yesmar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:37:28 PM | message detail |
Shadow (another character on the list of fairly strong characters
from this generation) undoubtedly got many votes because of his
insanely ****ing awesome pictures in the 2k3 contest. In all fairness, Shadow is the star of the Dark portions of the Sonic games. I'm not saying that he doesn't get some popularity from his look, but most of it comes from his role in the game, and to partly contradict myself his role as a pseudo-Sonic. I should take back saying that I don't think character design *can* make a difference, because in Shadow's case I see it more as he is being portrayed as "the badass Sonic," but in my opinion he gets much more of his popularity from the Sonic portion of that description than he does from the badass part. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:40:03 PM | message detail |
Just being a Sonic clone ALONE won't do it. Liquid Snake doesn't rival
Solid Snake in popularity (though we were almost convinced in 2004,
heh), nor would I expect Metal Sonic to be anything special. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Master Moltar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:42:29 PM | message detail |
Sonic Adventure 2 was that good. I enjoyed Shadow's story and
character...he was like the cooler version of Sonic IMO. I see him as
more than just a simple Sonic clone. He also managed to pass up Knux in my eyes. --- Moltar Status: Eagerly awaiting for the next Contest to begin. |
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 8:43:55 PM | message detail |
If I were a betting man, I'd bet that Midna would suck. Actually, I'd
bet that Zelda and Ganondorf would steal the show and toss Midna to the
background like a chumpette. A character like Midna just seems so different. Don't get me wrong; she fits well enough in the Zelda world, but not when compared to the very human-like Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. I see Twilight Princess more as the game that will propel its established stars into the stratosphere, as opposed to the game that will give us a fourth contest-worthy Zelda character. Of course, I point to my empty corner of evidence, but eh. Just tossing ideas up there. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
Big Bob | Posted 6/14/2006 8:46:01 PM | message detail |
Epona would kick the crap outta Cait Sith. People love Epona, and hate Cait Sith. --- "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hit man or a video gamer." - Jack Thompson |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:46:54 PM | message detail |
I wasn't aware that people had ANY emotional attachment to Epona. It's just a horse. Now Agro, on the other hand, THERE is a horse you can love, with a tragic story to boot. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/14/2006 9:04:05 PM | message detail |
Tag. --- 2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005 Elite Gamer (see quote). |
longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/14/2006 9:09:45 PM | message detail |
Aye, big tag. --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 9:16:16 PM | message detail |
Actually, I remember the days when we were arguing about whether Epona would break the fodder line. I was completely serious when I started bringing up Epona. I even went as far as making a match picture for her, but my hard drive went bad on my laptop. Seriously though, Epona vs. Vyse. Tell me that Epona wouldn't take that matchup 60-40! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:17:36 PM | message detail |
The thought of such a result makes me want to vomit. Regardless, I would expect Epona to be fodder, even if it is from Zelda. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:18:05 PM | message detail |
Also, Donkey Kong barely broke 63%, so no, Epona would not take it 60-40. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 9:19:34 PM | message detail |
Sonic Adventure 2 was that good. I enjoyed Shadow's story and
character...he was like the cooler version of Sonic IMO. I see him as
more than just a simple Sonic clone. He also managed to pass up Knux in my eyes. I'm ashamed. :( --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 9:22:36 PM | message detail |
Zelda fans do like Epona. I never thought of her as just a
horse myself. She's not as awesome as Agro, but she has a bigger
audience so... But seriously, with as rabid as the Ocarina of Time
fanbase is, I'm sure Epona would hold her own against any decent
fodder. Of course once you bring her up against characters a lot of
people care about, she'd probably fold worse than Pac-Man. We never
discuss it because she should never be in one of these things. I bet she would crush Kerrigan though! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:23:55 PM | message detail |
Well, Kerrigan's about as weak as they get, so I'd take Epona there. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 9:29:44 PM | message detail |
Yeah, I was just saying Epona would crush fodder like Kerrigan like
she was strong, but put her against characters that would crush
Kerrigan in similar fashion and she would likely fold against them.
Imagine a Goomba or Koopa Troopa in the character battle or
something... They would rake in votes against someone obscure or plain
fodder just for their sheer recognition. Let them go against a Kratos
Aurion or someone that actually has a good amount of people that like
them and they will fold. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 9:39:27 PM | message detail |
On the topic of Goombas and Koopa Troopas, I actually think that if
there were a contest in the character called "Metroid", that was just a
Metroid, it would actually be quite strong. Stronger than Ridley,
certainly. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:41:06 PM | message detail |
...I really have no idea why people think that. Ridley actually broke the fodder line. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:41:32 PM | message detail |
So, what'd be the strongest "generic character"? A Goomba? A moogle? The aforementioned metroid? --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/14/2006 9:42:13 PM | message detail |
Goomba vs Moogle should definitely be the SMB/FF picture. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 9:42:24 PM | message detail |
Probably a Moogle. Aren't they in every FF game in some capacity? I imagine they'd thus have a ton of strength to draw from. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:42:51 PM | message detail |
Chocobo, wark! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
Slowflake | Posted 6/14/2006 9:42:59 PM | message detail |
I'm not sure if they're in FF10... but I'm just being anal here. Hey, why not a chocobo? --- Got a craving while you're watching training holos on your rest cycle? Try new PHAZONETS - a mouthful of mutation in every morsel! |
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 9:43:27 PM | message detail |
Aren't they in every FF game in some capacity? I imagine they'd thus have a ton of strength to draw from. Hardly at all in the PS FFs though, except for FFIX. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |