GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 291
This Topic has been marked closed. No additional messages may be posted.
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/14/2006 12:07:10 PM | message detail |
|
*Nods* But GTA's fans are like "THIS GAME RAWKS BCUZ U CAN SHOOT T3H HOEZ LOL!!1", which is ridiculous. It also helps Jack Thompson's cause, which just makes them all the worse. >_> Actually, the majority really aren't like that at all. Those are just the ones you noticed on the board because... well, they're more noticeable. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:07:11 PM | message detail |
|
I meant the mindless ones >_> --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/14/2006 12:08:26 PM | message detail |
|
That title is going to go to Metal Gear, or maybe a surprise MMX fourth placement!! Just like Sigma! :p I kinda bought into that too, but I thought it'd be Wily. Anyway, Metroid, either SSB or arguably Sonic, and potentially MMX, are all going to be SFF'd, so 4th place pretty much devolves onto either Metal Gear (assuming it wins it's division) or Mega Man classic (assuming it beats MK). That's a fairly tough choice between the two of those, but MM classic has the advantage of going against the eventual winner. I think it takes 4th place. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 12:09:50 PM | message detail |
|
Actually, the majority really aren't like that at all. Those are
just the ones you noticed on the board because... well, they're more
noticeable. And more noticable to the people who dislike GTA. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:13:39 PM | message detail |
|
Strange, almost off-topicy question...if Sigma ended up so much weaker
than Wily, why do people think Mega Man X would be significantly
stronger than Mega Man? --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/14/2006 12:14:58 PM | message detail |
|
Strange, almost off-topicy question...if Sigma ended up so much
weaker than Wily, why do people think Mega Man X would be significantly
stronger than Mega Man? Well... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1834 makes me think MMX would certainly be stronger. By how much? Who knows? --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Heroic_Cable | Posted 6/14/2006 12:15:05 PM | message detail |
|
No one likes Sigma. --- Squa-la-la! We're off! |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:15:35 PM | message detail |
|
That poll made me think Sigma would be stronger than Wily AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED THERE --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/14/2006 12:16:52 PM | message detail |
|
I still have Warcraft > GTA, but only because I don't want to get
bitten in the ass again. Starcraft and Diablo both took a piss on my
brackets, and even if I get it wrong, I won't regret it. --- "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hit man or a video gamer." - Jack Thompson |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 6/14/2006 12:17:51 PM | message detail |
|
Strange, almost off-topicy question...if Sigma ended up so much
weaker than Wily, why do people think Mega Man X would be significantly
stronger than Mega Man? It's not MMX's fault that Wily is a better character than Sigma ;>_> --- Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS" |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/14/2006 12:18:20 PM | message detail |
|
Sigma got SFF'd to hell. --- "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hit man or a video gamer." - Jack Thompson |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/14/2006 12:19:11 PM | message detail |
|
That poll made me think Sigma would be stronger than Wily AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED THERE But Sigma sucks. If you do straight character-game relationships, either GTA should be weak as **** or CJ and Vercetti should be far stronger. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:19:23 PM | message detail |
|
I was going to bring up potential 'SFF' by Bowser or whatever you want
to call it, but there's also the matter of Sigma struggling against Andross. No, I think it's safe to say Wily's still stronger. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| transience | Posted 6/14/2006 12:19:51 PM | message detail |
|
Bowser/Sigma brings me back to my idea that Zelda would SFF MMX. I
don't think it'd be severe as I don't think Sigma is very popular, but
I do think there's some there. --- xyzzy |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:23:15 PM | message detail |
|
Just like Sigma! :p I kinda bought into that too, but I thought it'd be Wily. Haha. Indeed. It was a shame that Sigma didn't do better. Strange, almost off-topicy question...if Sigma ended up so much weaker than Wily, why do people think Mega Man X would be significantly stronger than Mega Man? I'm not even sure why one would look at Sigma and Wily to determine something like that. I suppose it was something that was never thought of when he was in the villains contest, but no one actually likes Sigma whereas some people do like Wily for some reason... If we were to do that, though, one could bring up Zero being significantly more popular than Protoman. Mega Man X pretty much takes the basic Mega Man formula that was present in the original series and makes it that much better. It has the advantage of starting later, continuing on the PSX, and still existing in the current generation. And while it hasn't sold as much yet, MMXC releasing gives it that collection for those who didn't play the old games. There is also that poll where Mega Man X placed ahead of Mega Man Classic by quite a bit--a few thousand votes, I believe. Ignoring characters, I just think MMX would end up being quite a bit stronger than MM(C) for those various reasons. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 12:23:51 PM | message detail |
|
I'm thinking definite SFF in that match. Actually, I think this contest will be similar to SpC2K4 in that Zelda will look like the strongest entrant going into the later rounds. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:25:20 PM | message detail |
|
Sigma got SFF'd to hell. I doubt it. He may have received some SFF, but he was pretty unimpressive in his first match-up, as I recall. ... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1990 Yeah. Sigma is just plain weak. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:26:52 PM | message detail |
|
Maybe I should clarify...I'm talking about the characters Mega Man and X, not the series. <.< Zero and Protoman also are a helluva lot more different than Sigma/Wily. Zero has been a playable character ever since X3, and lord knows he's had far more prominence than Protoman. Plus there's the whole matter of "TEH SWURD!" --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:27:55 PM | message detail |
|
Bowser/Sigma brings me back to my idea that Zelda would SFF MMX. There may potentially be some, like RPGuy mentioned, but I really don't think it'll be anything that bad, if at all. It is also notable that the MMX series does only have three games on a Nintendo platform, the rest are on the PlayStation. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| transience | Posted 6/14/2006 12:28:45 PM | message detail |
|
I'm thinking definite SFF in that match. Actually, I think this
contest will be similar to SpC2K4 in that Zelda will look like the
strongest entrant going into the later rounds. I've been thinking about this all week. consider their opponents: Zelda: Civilization; FF: Diablo. I'm sure some people think Diablo is woefully weak here. Zelda: MMX; FF: MM/MK. if MM wins and Zelda SFFs MMX, people will look at them and say "whoa, MMX is stronger than MM and Zelda's still looking better here." Zelda: Metroid; FF: Resident Evil. more SFF action while RE4 being on the Cube helps RE's cause out a lot. it won't be until the semifinals when FF takes on SMB that Zelda won't decimate its opponent thanks to SFF. --- xyzzy |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:29:40 PM | message detail |
|
There may potentially be some, like RPGuy mentioned, but I really
don't think it'll be anything that bad, if at all. It is also notable
that the MMX series does only have three games on a Nintendo platform,
the rest are on the PlayStation. Eh, true, but Zero was the exact same way (well, not including MMZ I guess) and Mario/Zero SFF is a pretty popular idea nowadays. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/14/2006 12:31:14 PM | message detail |
|
Well, Zero didn't do so well against Mario. It's hard to say if there
was any "SFF" there, as it's rather difficult to place Zero in the
first place, but I'd guess he's capable of doing better than he did. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:31:30 PM | message detail |
|
Maybe I should clarify...I'm talking about the characters Mega Man and X, not the series. ... Oooh. Well, did anyone ever say X would be significant more popular than Rock? I said he's much cooler and has much better pictures, but I doubt he'd be significantly more popular as a character. Lord knows X is a much better character than Rock, but I doubt it'd be much different with the voters. Zero and Protoman also are a helluva lot more different than Sigma/Wily. Zero has been a playable character ever since X3, and lord knows he's had far more prominence than Protoman. Plus there's the whole matter of "TEH SWURD!" Quite true. But the most important thing that you listed was undoubtedly TSF!! --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:35:48 PM | message detail |
|
Hmm. I suppose that is true that there might have been some SFF between
Mario and Zero, but would it really have been that much? Zero seems to
line up well with his previous stats, I think. I would guess he'd be
place a little higher than he does there, but I doubt it'd be by much
more than a percent or so. Still worth considering though. I had forgotten about Mario/Zero, mostly because I never really guessed something had happened in that match. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 12:36:55 PM | message detail |
|
... Oooh. Well, did anyone ever say X would be significant more popular than Rock? I've heard it thrown around from time to time (though I'm not saying you have). I usually hear it lumped in with groups of reasons why Ceej shouldn't just consider X the same as MM. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 12:47:25 PM | message detail |
|
I would guess that stems from the fact that X and Rock are two
different characters, and, potentially, should be allowed to be
represented as such. But, then again, OoT Link and TWW Link are two
different characters and you don't see anyone wanting both of them
represented. So even if they are different characters, I don't think
it'd be a good idea to have them both represented, personally. I'd have a hard time coming up with any actual reason why X would be more popular than Mega Man, too. He'd probably even be worse off by lacking the "Mega Man" part of the name, instead having "X," though CJayC might just go with calling him "Mega Man X." Anyway, I think they'd be equal in popularity at best. The best solution is for CJayC to use X pictures in the Character Battle. He claims all different versions of Mega Man are under that one name, but we just haven't seen any evidence of that in the pictures. We've only seen the original Mega Man represented. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/14/2006 1:06:53 PM | message detail |
|
Anyway, I think they'd be equal in popularity at best. The best solution is for CJayC to use X pictures in the Character Battle. He claims all different versions of Mega Man are under that one name, but we just haven't seen any evidence of that in the pictures. We've only seen the original Mega Man represented. Really? I thought we got a MMX pic once. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 1:09:04 PM | message detail |
|
If we did, I'm not remembering what match Mega Man was in when it
happened. The only time I recall ever seeing him in one is that
instance Karma Hunter pointed out earlier. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 1:09:15 PM | message detail |
|
Still worth considering though. I had forgotten about Mario/Zero,
mostly because I never really guessed something had happened in that
match. Looking at where he falls relative to other people should draw some concern. I don't really see any reason why Zero would decrease in popularity after all of these years, especially with characters like Mega Man and Sonic holding up just fine. I know Zero has games on the Playstation, but it's not like those games are the ones that made people fans of the series. The X series is rooted on the SNES. And don't forget about the Mega Man Zero games on the GBA. Zero is just about as "Nintendo" as Mega Man. And he's been around almost as long as Yoshi and Sonic. If Mega Man can SFF Yoshi, I see no reason why Mario couldn't SFF Zero. Zero did outperform Snake directly against Mega Man, although he also wasn't getting his face blasted in like Snake was. Zero has shown to be pretty strong in these contests. I know I wouldn't take Dante or Knuckles over him. And I definitely wouldn't take Sonic and Mega Man to beat him 59/41 when he's already gotten about 48% and 44% on them respectively. I know this is stirring up old dirt, but that's how I felt on the matter. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/14/2006 1:10:37 PM | message detail |
|
Well, I've never played MMX, but wasn't that X in the Link/MM pic in 2K4? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:12:59 PM | message detail |
|
We got like a small, small sliver of MMX's forehead, and we got an MMX background once, but those were both user-made. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 1:13:12 PM | message detail |
|
Well, I've never played MMX, but wasn't that X in the Link/MM pic in 2K4? I actually think that was his Hyper-doohickey attack (or whatever) from the Marvel v. Capcom games. I sort of find myself waffling on Mario/Zero 'SFF' though. I mean, the one thing that bothers me is...if Mario can SFF Zero, and Mega can SFF Yoshi...why in the HELL couldn't Mega SFF Zero??? --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:13:34 PM | message detail |
|
Well, I've never played MMX, but wasn't that X in the Link/MM pic in 2K4? Nope, that was Mega Man from Marvel vs. Capcom, I believe. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 1:14:06 PM | message detail |
|
I sort of find myself waffling on Mario/Zero 'SFF' though. I mean,
the one thing that bothers me is...if Mario can SFF Zero, and Mega can
SFF Yoshi...why in the HELL couldn't Mega SFF Zero??? I would think of this as Mario > Mega Man > Zero >>> Yoshi, for whatever it's worth. --- xyzzy |
| jonthomson | Posted 6/14/2006 1:14:33 PM | message detail |
|
Mega can SFF Yoshi I prefer to think of it as Yoshi being found out as actually being that weak and having overperformed in previous years, but that's just me. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/14/2006 1:14:39 PM | message detail |
|
Oh. *sits in the corner* --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 1:17:01 PM | message detail |
|
I would think of this as Mario > Mega Man > Zero >>> Yoshi, for whatever it's worth. Well, yeah, but you'd think Mega Man would be able to SFF someone from his own series better than someone outside it... And looking back at two polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2121 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2328 Unless Mario gets, like almost ALL of those other votes, does Mega outscore him against Yoshi? My brain hurts... --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:18:49 PM | message detail |
|
And I definitely wouldn't take Sonic and Mega Man to beat him 59/41
when he's already gotten about 48% and 44% on them respectively For what it's worth, that was Sonic's weakest year. Tifa looks to be about as strong as Aeris, and yet Sonic outdid his 2003 performance by about 4%, so... Keep in mind that Zero DID avoid SFF against Mega Man while it's possible that Mario did overperform somewhat, so there's a small MMX > MM Classic argument. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 1:19:07 PM | message detail |
|
I know I wouldn't take Dante or Knuckles over him. And I definitely
wouldn't take Sonic and Mega Man to beat him 59/41 when he's already
gotten about 48% and 44% on them respectively. I know this is stirring
up old dirt, but that's how I felt on the matter. I might have to think a bit on Dante/Zero, but Zero would definitely be the choice that I would go with if I wasn't looking for an upset. I'm not saying nothing happened in that match, but was it anything really that bad? Not really. I mean, raise Zero up a percent and he's with Ganondorf, Tifa, and Zelda, which is right around where he probably belongs. I was just saying that it probably wasn't anything significant or worth getting worked up over. He only places, what, one percent below where he did in 2004? He's really not that far off. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 1:19:40 PM | message detail |
|
I thought about that too KH.... I just decided to pretend it didn't exist to save my brain... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 1:21:58 PM | message detail |
|
Well, I've never played MMX, but wasn't that X in the Link/MM pic in 2K4? Marvel v. Capcom'd!! http://www.mmhp.net/ScreenShots/MvsC/HyperMM.JPG (That picture sucked, by the way. <<) --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 1:22:53 PM | message detail |
|
well I think Zero has a separate fanbase of his own. what has me wondering is Bowser.. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2121 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1342 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2117 maybe Bowser is low on the Nintendo hierarchy but draws his votes best against non-Nintendo foes? kinda like Samus, I suppose. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:24:56 PM | message detail |
|
Nah, I don't think Bowser is low on the Nintendo hierarchy. He held his
own against Mario, and he's already beaten Yoshi. Plus, there's already
been enough debate as to whether he could take on Ganondorf, whether he
was directly stronger or not. That would, in essence, make him the 4th
strongest Nintendo character. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Chinballz | Posted 6/14/2006 1:26:05 PM | message detail |
|
Speaking of Mega Man, are you going to finish your writeups on MM7 and MM8, Karma Hunter? The original topic purged. --- MK:DS Name & Code (Hungus, 124616-763503) Nominate Jay Solano from Operation Shadow (N-Gage) for SC2K6! |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 1:27:08 PM | message detail |
|
I still give Ganon the edge until I see something that convinces me
otherwise. Zelda > Mario on this site and Ganon has beaten him in
every indirect comparison. still, I think that's reason to be skeptical of Kirby's x-stat value. if Mega Man can get 10% more on Yoshi than Bowser can, I'd think a Kirby overperformance is very very possible. --- xyzzy |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 1:29:16 PM | message detail |
|
Speaking of Mega Man, are you going to finish your writeups on MM7 and MM8, Karma Hunter? The original topic purged. As soon as I stop needing to leech off public computers! --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:30:04 PM | message detail |
|
Well, Bowser did beat him in terms of standing up to his hero...But
yeah, I don't think Bowser is an absolute favorite Nintendo character
of many, but I'd say a lot of people like him enough to vote for him
most of the time. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Kirby
overperform on Ganon either, if that's what he did to Bowser. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 1:32:27 PM | message detail |
|
Well, Bowser did beat him in terms of standing up to his hero...But
yeah, I don't think Bowser is an absolute favorite Nintendo character
of many, but I'd say a lot of people like him enough to vote for him
most of the time. yeah, this is how I feel about Samus. I also agree that Kirby/Ganon would have a similar result to Kirby/Bowser.. not sure who outperforms who there. I do expect Ganon to win the match though. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:33:20 PM | message detail |
|
I'd like to see a Ganon/Zelda match one day, just to see how things play out. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 1:35:47 PM | message detail |
|
I might have to think a bit on Dante/Zero, but Zero would definitely
be the choice that I would go with if I wasn't looking for an upset.
I'm not saying nothing happened in that match, but was it anything
really that bad? Not really. I mean, raise Zero up a percent and he's
with Ganondorf, Tifa, and Zelda, which is right around where he
probably belongs. I was just saying that it probably wasn't anything
significant or worth getting worked up over. He only places, what, one
percent below where he did in 2004? He's really not that far off. I personally place Zero around Squall's level of strength. Outside of SFF matches, there's nothing I think Squall could do that Zero couldn't and vice versa. Zero proved himself in 2k3, dispatching Scorpion and doing better on Sonic than Aeris. And he showed to be on the same level in 2k4, beating Tommy V. like he should and getting what he was projected to get on Mega Man without SFF. I don't see why he's exactly out of Squall's league now. Of course that's just me though. Right after Mario/Zero, it seemed everyone completely disagreed with me when I said I'd still take Zero over Kirby... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |