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| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 1:38:36 PM | message detail |
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Eh...I'd probably draw the line at Squall for Zero (I do think he
dropped a *smidge* looking at his other matches in 2k5), and I wouldn't
sweat over taking post-KH2 Squall over him. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 1:40:28 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, Zero's performance against Hayabusa was less than
impressive, based on what we were expecting out of him. How much of
that you chalk up to the ninja picture is subjective, of course. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 1:54:36 PM | message detail |
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I probably wouldn't take Zero over Squall now due to KH2, but I definitely feel they were at the same level. Ryu Hayabusa went up regardless of how you feel on Zero/Mario SFF, so it's pretty clear that the picture did have an effect. How much is the debatable thing, but we can't say for sure on any front. I always say that sure, the picture probably won't mean anything to people who already are Ryu Hayabusa fans. But what about those that aren't, and those who don't exactly know the name "Ryu Hayabusa"? You can't possibly expect them to look at those Dead or Alive pictures and say "Oh, that's the guy from Ninja Gaiden". http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=48 http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=2 You can't say that there isn't a huge difference between those two representations. You don't have to be a huge fan of the Ninja Gaiden games to give Ryu a vote. It at least helps that more people are able to recognize him as the Ninja Gaiden guy. It's more than what I can say about that DoA picture against Sora. Even I wouldn't know that was Ryu if I didn't see the name right there. And as I said, Ryu went up regardless, so it's clear that there was a difference. As for Lloyd, we have nothing to base him off of except for Wesker's villain contest data, which is hardly something that I would call reliable. Anyways, it's a moot point as we obviously feel different. I'm just stating why I feel that Zero has always at least been around Squall level, and certainly not where he ranks in the 2k5 stats... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 2:02:47 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to see Ganon/Zelda.. but also Bowser/Zelda. I'd probably take
Zelda once TP hits, and I think Zelda could outperform Kirby on Bowser.
not sure if it's enough to win though.. --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 2:04:26 PM | message detail |
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I would have definitely taken Bowser over Ganondorf before Twilight
Princess. Now it's all about waiting to see what type of role Dorfy
plays in that game. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 2:06:24 PM | message detail |
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I don't know about taking Zelda over any of the other Nintendo
characters in her area, even Kirby. We have yet to see how much
Nintendo fans care about her over the others, unless you want to count
her match against Mega Man... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 2:07:18 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Zelda over Ganondorf. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 2:09:52 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't. For all we know, Link SFF's Zelda to the ground too in that 2k4 match against Ganondorf. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 2:09:53 PM | message detail |
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well Mega Man shows she's far above Yoshi... I don't know, I don't feel
comfortable taking any of the second tier Nintendo characters over each
other due to the overlap. I feel weird trying to gauge their strength
through extrapolation; it all depends on who the fanbase sides with. I always got the feeling that Zelda fans would vote Zelda characters over anything. that's how Zelda got 40% on Mega Man and how Ganon got 40% on Samus. it all depends on if the rest of the Nintendo fanbase supports them. --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/14/2006 2:12:32 PM | message detail |
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For all we know, Link SFF's Zelda to the ground too in that 2k4 match against Ganondorf. I think Zelda is in the better position as far as that argument is concerned. I'd rather take the more unproven character over the one who suffered the biggest SFF humiliation in history (especially in a match that's all about SFF). --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Big Bob | Posted 6/14/2006 2:14:58 PM | message detail |
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I have a feeling that Zelda would get SFF'd by Ganondorf. Just think: Would Aeris get SFF'd harder by Cloud or Sephiroth? Would Peach get SFF'd harder by Mario or Bowser? I know it's untested and there's nothing to support this, but I think that villains would do better than the hero if they were placed against the "damsel in distress" of their games. --- "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hit man or a video gamer." - Jack Thompson |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/14/2006 2:17:10 PM | message detail |
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Mario would kill Peach way harder than Bowser would. same with Cloud and Aeris. --- xyzzy |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 2:17:38 PM | message detail |
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See, I find it fairly obvious that Cloud SFFs Aeris more and Mario SFFs
Peach more. In fact, on another note I think Sephiroth would probably
SFF Aeris the least compared to any of the other lesser FFVII
characters. For...y'know, reasons. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 3:07:09 PM | message detail |
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This topic has too much discussion of Zelda and not enough discussion of Midna. >_< If Midna gets into SSBB (which she should), and she's as cool in TP as she looks right now (which she will be), she could be quite the contender...I'd put her between Yoshi and Leon in the stats. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/14/2006 3:08:22 PM | message detail |
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Let it be known that Leon would beat the hell out of Midna, SSBB or no. --- "If you're asking for a date, forget it. Because I made it a point not to go out with women who shoot me in the head." |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 3:25:12 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of Mega Man, are you going to finish your writeups on MM7 and MM8, Karma Hunter? The original topic purged. As soon as I stop needing to leech off public computers! FYI, I have the first writeups saved. Just because you respect your own material doesn't mean I don't! :-P Back on topic, I honestly thought the consensus on Mega Man/Zero was that it was the rare case of rSFF - of Zero overperforming based on his opponent. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 3:47:12 PM | message detail |
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Back on topic, I honestly thought the consensus on Mega Man/Zero was
that it was the rare case of rSFF - of Zero overperforming based on his
opponent. But Zero didn't overperform at all... He got just what he was supposed to. It just showed that there is a split between the classic and X series, and we pretty much already knew that. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 3:56:25 PM | message detail |
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I mean "overperform" in terms of the fact that there was no SFF in the
match. He may have gotten what he was "supposed" to get, but I thought
people expecting him to do much worse and get SFFed; hence, the label
of "rSFF." I didn't think the "split between the classic and X series"
was as widely accepted back then. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| Quaarma Hunter | Posted 6/14/2006 4:15:06 PM | message detail |
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After seeing so much hype about Midna, finally seeing her for myself
was an utter, utter disappointment. I see her as nothing more than a
lower midcard, and that's with SSBB (which is no assurance). Very, very overrated character design, to say the least. --- *is Karma Hunter* |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/14/2006 4:25:59 PM | message detail |
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Who the hell is Midna? >_> --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 4:31:11 PM | message detail |
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Midna is a new character confirmed to be in Twilight Princess. She's
supposed to be an ally of Link or something. HAVE IT AGAIN LOL http://www.perfect-zelda.net/midna.jpg --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 5:10:17 PM | message detail |
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I don't see what the big deal about Midna is myself. I think people are
overhyping her just because she's finally another addition to the Zelda
universe, i.e., looking for another Zelda character that could be
strong. It's just not happening though. I don't see Midna being anymore
popular than Tetra... And it's hinted that there's a connection between
her and Zelda as well... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 5:47:30 PM | message detail |
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After seeing so much hype about Midna, finally seeing her for myself
was an utter, utter disappointment. I see her as nothing more than a
lower midcard, and that's with SSBB (which is no assurance). Very, very overrated character design, to say the least. Majora's Mask + Cel-shaded Hand coming out of head = win. Plus, she has the sweet BoF5 Ryu look going on with her skin, and she can shoot blue fire out of her hands. Midna is easily the coolest looking character I've seen, and is as of now the thing that excites me most about Twilight Princess. Oh, and she's one of two playable Zelda characters, and we all know how strong playable Zelda characters are. >_> --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/14/2006 5:51:59 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and she's one of two playable Zelda characters, and we all know how strong playable Zelda characters are. Medli! Makar! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/14/2006 6:08:56 PM | message detail |
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Damn...I knew I was forgetting someone. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/14/2006 6:09:27 PM | message detail |
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Don't worry SephG, I've still been able to keep up with every post. I
just, ya know...haven't had much to say and have been pretty busy. Since I still hear SF/RE talk, I will make a sig-bet with anybody right now: RE will break 55% without question in that match. I'll take on anybody I know (no more sig-bets against alts for me!). --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 6:10:12 PM | message detail |
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RE4 would beat every SF game with over 55% alone. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/14/2006 6:14:45 PM | message detail |
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This I know. People still insist on SF > RE though -- which is
totally fine with me bracket-wise -- so I'm making the bet. I believe
HM still has SF > RE..... =P --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 6:14:52 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Resident Evil breaking 55% over Castlevania. No way in hell am I anticipating less against Sf2/TES. --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 6:17:19 PM | message detail |
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I'm really looking forward to the Oracle this year... no x-stats to
rely on means people are going to be all over, especially in round 1. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/14/2006 6:17:52 PM | message detail |
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Believe it or not, this bet isn't intended for those already taking RE in SF/RE. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 6/14/2006 6:18:59 PM | message detail |
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Believe it or not, this bet isn't intended for those already taking RE in SF/RE. Whew! For a second, I thought you were talking to me! ...I have RE over Elder Scrolls. >_> --- This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845 |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 6:19:05 PM | message detail |
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I've already got a GTA/WC sig bet and a SMB/Madden account bet. and, of course, the Guru. --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/14/2006 6:30:42 PM | message detail |
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...I have RE over Elder Scrolls. Same here. I don't see why elder scrolls couldn't fall between both series in overall strength. --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/14/2006 6:31:51 PM | message detail |
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and a SMB/Madden account bet. Wait, what? Somebody actually made an account bet betting on Madden of all things? 0_o --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/14/2006 6:34:58 PM | message detail |
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And looking back at two polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2121 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2328 Unless Mario gets, like almost ALL of those other votes, does Mega outscore him against Yoshi? My brain hurts... Samus > MM > Mario in the next great character battle. Book it! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 7:29:59 PM | message detail |
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Mario would kill Peach way harder than Bowser would. same with Cloud and Aeris. I dunno. I think Sephy would kill her pretty badly. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/14/2006 8:08:51 PM | message detail |
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heh ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/14/2006 8:14:04 PM | message detail |
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I'm really looking forward to the Oracle this year... no x-stats to
rely on means people are going to be all over, especially in round 1. Indeed, this is why I'm more excited about this contest than the character battle, and wish it were going to be 63 matches. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:15:04 PM | message detail |
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Since when did character design play such a huge role in character popularity? Sure it plays some role, but if Minda does have a substantial role in TP, I doubt her character design would matter much. We've never seen any lesser Zelda characters in a contest before, so it's really hard to judge anyway. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:16:26 PM | message detail |
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trudat, Leon. character design means a lot. hero-type with a sword? instant popularity. big fat ugly guy? probably not as popular. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:16:34 PM | message detail |
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It's rather difficult for any new character to be a big shot these
days. Other than Dante and Master Chief, it's hard to name one. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:16:36 PM | message detail |
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*Midna --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/14/2006 8:17:26 PM | message detail |
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hero-type with a sword? instant popularity. big fat ugly guy? probably not as popular. Then why did Ganondorf beat Auron? This saddens me. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:18:23 PM | message detail |
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cause Zelda > Final Fantasy !! --- xyzzy |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/14/2006 8:19:14 PM | message detail |
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Then why did Ganondorf beat Auron? This saddens me. Because Ganondorf is a villain/pig with a sword. How do you beat a villain/pig?!?! --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:19:28 PM | message detail |
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..but if you wanted a fair comparison (relatively equal popularity),
you'd like Seph-Ganon. people are surprised Ganon was even that close. --- xyzzy |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/14/2006 8:19:35 PM | message detail |
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It's rather difficult for any new character to be a big shot these
days. Other than Dante and Master Chief, it's hard to name one. Auron? Besides, Dante and Master Chief are higher than what people were speculating Midna at. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/14/2006 8:19:54 PM | message detail |
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GTA 99.999% Warcraft 00.001% --- xyzzy |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 6/14/2006 8:19:54 PM | message detail |
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Elder Scrolls > Street Fighter --- When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. ~ Victor Hugo {WoT}~> Board 408 |