GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 291
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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:18:43 PM | message detail |
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Ngamer64 Posted 6/11/2006 11:23:10 AM message detail #247 Ulti, please make the next stats topic yourself, and when you do so, please add this to the list of links in the first post. http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html Done and done. This is why we all love TRE. *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13 Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14 Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15 SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16 Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17 SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18 Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27 Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/32 SFF Adjusted Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/33 All Time Extrapolated Standings: http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexstats.htm *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, save for three from 2002: http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists: http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251 HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/tre/Polls.html !yawa tsoP |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 2:20:33 PM | message detail |
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wtf so early etc etc --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:22:16 PM | message detail |
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SO SOON?! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Uwe Boll | Posted 6/11/2006 2:22:27 PM | message detail |
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I'll never understand why we can't just wait until the other one hits 500. It's the most demented tradition I've ever seen. ~Shake --- Hahaha, well, I'm like, in love with undreground hip hop right now.There's this group, Da Backwudz, they sampled the Oompa Loompa song. ~LexisTheGenius. |
| bobby200614 | Posted 6/11/2006 2:23:08 PM | message detail |
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Warcraft > GTA --- "The Secret Society of Procrastinators have postponed their annual meeting" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:24:25 PM | message detail |
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We spent the first 100+ posts of the last topic going over WHY. We don't need to start this again. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 2:25:47 PM | message detail |
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my opinion is to wait until at least 450. making them early is fine as
long as discussion stays in the earlier topic. when arguments go
between stats topics, it gets really confusing. I know that you made this one so early because N asked you to add a link, which is fine. --- xyzzy |
| Uwe Boll | Posted 6/11/2006 2:26:11 PM | message detail |
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Why is that a problem? When it hits a hundred posts we can just make another. ~Shake --- Hahaha, well, I'm like, in love with undreground hip hop right now.There's this group, Da Backwudz, they sampled the Oompa Loompa song. ~LexisTheGenius. |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/11/2006 2:28:13 PM | message detail |
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Street Fighter > Resident Evil --- =DC= Chemistry can be a good and bad thing. Chemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:29:50 PM | message detail |
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Shake, find something better to whine about. You're too damn smart to hold a two-year grudge over nothing,
especially given that you're the only one who gives a crap anymore.
there are far worse "universally accepted" board traditions to lash out
against, like the nonsensical moral relativism. And to answer your question seriously, I swear to God I thought the other topic had 9 pages of posts in it. Kind of odd to now see it only have 7. Stupid dirt under stupid contacts. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Uwe Boll | Posted 6/11/2006 2:34:18 PM | message detail |
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I'm not holding a grudge. This system divides the discussion for no
reason at all. I mean, when the damn thing is at 480 or 490 all it
requires is a simple copy-paste job. I think anyone would be able to
manage. I swear to God I thought the other topic had 9 pages of posts in it. You lieeeee. =P Anyway, continue the now divided discussion. No complaints from me anymore. ~Shake --- Hahaha, well, I'm like, in love with undreground hip hop right now.There's this group, Da Backwudz, they sampled the Oompa Loompa song. ~LexisTheGenius. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:35:09 PM | message detail |
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I'm dead serious. Put in a blurry contact and tell me that a small 7 doesn't look like a small 9. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| Lopen | Posted 6/11/2006 2:39:01 PM | message detail |
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The whole idea is to not have 10 posts labeled "Contest Stats and
Discussion - Part XXX" when the topic goes down. That's be foolishness.
Then again, the way it is now is kinda foolishness, too. What'd part 290 get to before 289 hit 500? 100 posts? 150 posts? Whatever, I'd argue on this matter, but I really just don't care enough. I do agree they should probably go up around 450 posts, though. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/11/2006 2:39:55 PM | message detail |
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I see my TV from far away, and the BBC font makes a 0 look like a 1. >_> Dammit, I was going to make this one. Didn't see the new link, though. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 2:43:08 PM | message detail |
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Dammit, I was going to make this one. Didn't see the new link, though. this is actually the problem. people want to make the stats topics for whatever reason instead of saying "oh, it's at 450, I'm gonna make the next one." it ends up being a race and they get made earlier than they should. --- xyzzy |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 6:58:53 PM | message detail |
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You can make the next one if you want. Go to town when this hits 400. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, FE8, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/11/2006 7:28:16 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, whenever I play Socom III online I wear my glasses instead of
contacts because the numbers and things are so small I always end up
getting confused because of my damn dirty contacts. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 7:47:05 PM | message detail |
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*is thankful for 20/20 vision --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/11/2006 7:54:07 PM | message detail |
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hay guys --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 8:21:41 PM | message detail |
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This is the reason why we need to wait until at least 400 posts before
we think about making the next one. I always hate the first page of new
stats topics. They are completely wasted. >> There is also nothing special about making stats topics. I don't see why everyone is so eager to make one. But now I've gone and contributed to the very thing I don't want to happen! (Star Ocean > Pokemon!! Taglicious!) --- "So what I'm saying is, if we're gonna cooperate with someone, it might as well be that hot chick over there, know what I mean?" |
| Draco1214 | Posted 6/11/2006 8:24:09 PM | message detail |
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OBLIGATORY INEQUALITY POST Street Fighter > Resident Evil --- Nominate Timesplitters for Best. Series. Ever. Organization XIII - Number III - Xordac |
| transcience | Posted 6/11/2006 8:25:12 PM | message detail |
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screw you all, from now on I'm using equalities! Mega Man = Mario Kart --- xyzzy |
| Applekidjosh | Posted 6/11/2006 8:25:40 PM | message detail |
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Elder Scrolls > Street Fighter, me and ed and eee and ec agree! """ "i don't know what's worse - that there's a "wang festival" in japan or that i didn't even think twice about it when i read that at first." - transience |
| Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 6/11/2006 8:27:02 PM | message detail |
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Not with these ads. http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/street-fighter/awesome-street-figher-viral-ads-177861.php --- Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus http://www.mhho.com/Images/Contest/2002/kuri-nmentrywily.jpg |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/12/2006 12:27:18 AM | message detail |
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I'm about this close to taking down every irrelevant piece of trash that gets shoved into the first 30-50 posts of the stats topics. Anyway, since most people aren't going to look at the end of the last topic I'll repost it here: OoT, in no way possible, has 20% of GF backing it as best game ever. It wouldn't have lost so badly if it did. 15% is believable, and a bit beyond that but not much. 20, though? No way. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/12/2006 12:34:47 AM | message detail |
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Well, if OoT had 20% with it as their favorite and you only counted the
people who had the games as their favorites in OoT vs. FFVII, the match
would've been 65-35. I don't see what's so outlandish about 20% for OoT. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/12/2006 12:36:33 AM | message detail |
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As I mentioned before, Zelda has the advantage in overall percentage of people who have played it. That does help. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/12/2006 12:39:03 AM | message detail |
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I missed the part where 24% vs 20% leaves you with 35% for OoT... or
you missed the part where the % for FF7 on the top 100 games list was
24 as opposed to the 27-28% from jsut after the games contest. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| ListenToMyStory | Posted 6/12/2006 12:43:12 AM | message detail |
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Intentionally misleading people is more fun than I thought. --- "Listen to my story. This...may be our last chance." - Tidus |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2006 12:50:24 AM | message detail |
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Chichiri ruined the fun. oh well, it was fun while it lasted. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2006 12:52:15 AM | message detail |
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and OOT didn't lose badly. how is 54-46 a blowout? --- xyzzy |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/12/2006 12:56:08 AM | message detail |
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As I mentioned before, Zelda has the advantage in overall percentage of people who have played it. That does help. Since when? I'd say the difference is so small as to be irrelevant. I missed the part where 24% vs 20% leaves you with 35% for OoT... or you missed the part where the % for FF7 on the top 100 games list was 24 as opposed to the 27-28% from jsut after the games contest. I was doing a comparison at the time of the Games Contest...since, you know, that was when we actually saw FFVII vs. OoT. At the time of the Top 100 list, it would be 58-42, and the actually match could quite possibly be closer than it was in Spring of 2k4. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2006 1:03:11 AM | message detail |
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for argument's sake: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2185 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2186 only 55% of the people have beaten FF7 while 72% have beaten OOT. 25% have never even played FF7 compared to 12 for OOT. --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/12/2006 1:09:03 AM | message detail |
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Those numbers are just startling. Taking two separate pieces of
evidence and putting them together (which, I know, can be a sin, but
I'm doing it anyway), we can assume that of all the people who have
played FFVII on this site, ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THEM LIST IT AS THEIR
FAVORITE GAME EVER. Jesus. ****ing. Christ. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 6/12/2006 1:09:05 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, and I really doubt many are going to hold Final Fantasy 7 that highly if they haven't even beaten it. At least 45% of the vote would vote a ton of games over Final Fantasy 7, I'm sure! Oh sure, 45% isn't enough to win anything but um... it's something! --- Did you say “nerd”? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless, you heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 6/12/2006 1:11:36 AM | message detail |
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Well, 24% is probably at least a little bit higher than what the actual %age is. You know, the whole drop down list thing. Then again, I'd think if my favorite game ever wasn't on the drop down list, I'd bother to search for it. But maybe alotta voters didn't? Who knows? --- Did you say “nerd”? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless, you heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2006 1:14:01 AM | message detail |
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I personally didn't add any games because I wanted to see my favourite
games do well. it was pretty obvious to me that you weren't going to
get in the top 40 or 50 if you weren't on the drop down list unless you
were a massive snub. I ended up being a little bit off (more like top
100), but I knew that games like Shadow Hearts and Metroid: Zero
Mission had no chance whatsoever to get on there so I didn't bother. --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/12/2006 1:14:11 AM | message detail |
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Those Ocarina numbers are very impressive, however. If similar polls
were made in early 2004, I doubt you'd have such a massive play
percentage. Makes me wonder if Ocarina could take FFVII if Twilight
Princess is warmly received and Wii shifts the voter pool further
towards Nintendo. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| transience | Posted 6/12/2006 1:15:55 AM | message detail |
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ain't nothin' compared to mario 3: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2182 --- xyzzy |
| consolefreak | Posted 6/12/2006 2:59:15 AM | message detail |
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May I point you to May's Top 10 Best-Selling Games of the Month?
Kingdom Hearts, a game over three years old, was 10th. And Chain of
Memories outsold Metroid Prime Hunters and Tetris DS. What does that have to do with people who don't like KH buying KH2? That's the other way around. Halo had a boost too when Halo 2 was released. I don't see how The List is more friendly to MGS than to Halo though. nothing is more friendly to a list format than Halo since there's noa ntivotes. also, MGS had three games on the list while Halo only had 1.. yet MGS still beat it by a place. MGS wins that matchup, and pretty easily. Antivotes don't really matter in close matches anyway because most everyone will have played one of either games. The top 100 format seems to me like it would favour MGS more because it's more of a hardcore, night-vote kind of game. I doubt that the 'casual' gamers quickly dropping by are going to fill in a top 10, as opposed to casting a vote. This is shown by the fact that mainstream games performed worse overall, like Halo 2 - ToS, but also stuff like GTA: VC #35, Xenogears #32 and Advance Wars #55 and Burnout 3: Takedown #64. This is somewhat compensated by the fact that MGS' votes were divided over 2 and 3, but seeing how MGS is the big fan favourite, that shouldn't account for much, right? That's what I thought. So, does that mean MGS will SFF KH? I think you've missed the Snake/Sora - MGS/KH bit. You might want to catch up on that reading comprehension. Or maybe Halo will SFF KH. Because they both have H's. And they both faced Starcraft. <_< Hahaha maybe it will! But Kingdom Hearts 2 is doing way more than Halo 2 in bringing fans on the site right now, which is (surprise, surprise) the time of the actual contest. Since Spring 2k4, we've had Chain of Memories and we've had Kingdom Hearts 2. You can't deny that there isn't a stronger Kingdom Hearts presence on this site... I never really believed in that having any real influence. Cloud getting his ass kicked the worst yet after FFVII rising all the way to #4, and CJ losing to Ness after GTA: SA being #1, #2, #3 did that for me. I would actually disagree with that. I think Metal Gear Solid would, or at least could, end up being quite a bit stronger than Metal Gear Solid 2. As an example, I think MGS/SSBM becomes a match that one would require some serious thought in choosing a winner, at least by the value of SSBM in 2004. I have never once thought of MGS2 being nearly as strong as MGS. I don't know. The sales are close to each other, and considering the gameFAQs demographic, it is very possible that more people have played MGS2 than 1. I think the most popular age group was around 14-18 (perhaps someone knows the poll) and that certainly favours MGS2. I'm 16, and a lot of people I know have played MGS2, as opposed to just a couple MGS. Considering we're saying that MGS is stronger than MGS2 and you think that a series won't be much stronger than its strongest entry, how does it NOT relate to the argument, hmm? Just because YOU think they would be relatively equal doesn't mean others do. This is why this is called an argument. I guess. But does anyone really think MGS is a lot stronger indirectly? How it is favoured is largely irrelevant when paired with Halo. --- "Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth" |
| jonthomson | Posted 6/12/2006 5:54:39 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, seemed to miss the entirety of 290. I'm guessing I didn't actually
miss much in terms of revolutionary bracket picking development, right? --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/12/2006 5:56:55 AM | message detail |
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You know, the more I think about it, the more this idea of "A series
won't be much stronger than its strongest game" seems preposterous.
It's basically like picking the most popular game from a series and
saying the rest of it is worth virtually nothing. Leonhart, remember I gave that example on the Four Pack of Fun Board about diversity and stuff when I was talking about Metal Gear Solid? Two ends of a spectrum. On one side of the spectrum, you have a series like Final Fantasy, where the fanbases between the games are diverse, so combining them as a series wil undoubtedly increase its strength over any singular game in the series, even one as popular as Final Fantasy VII. On the other side of the spectrum, you have a series like Devil May Cry, where fans of one game in the series are probably fans of the other. Ignore a game like DMC2 that is actually disliked, as that is irrelevant in this example. So if you just consider DMC and DMC3, it's not like those games have separate fanbases. There's probably going to be a high amount of overlap with the most popular game in the series and the next game. So if you combine the games as a series, it's simply not going to be much stronger than it's most popular game, at least not compared to a series like FF. So in the end, it all depends on how diverse and dedicated the fanbases are when it comes to the entire series. We don't know how much weight favorite games overall will have in voting. We don't know how quality vs. quantity will work, etc. But there will be some series that aren't going to be significantly stronger than their most popular games. That idea really isn't farfetched at all... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/12/2006 6:17:42 AM | message detail |
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Excellent. *rubs hands* Fict or Faction: RE4 alone would beat Street Fighter/break 47% on it. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| Phediuk | Posted 6/12/2006 6:38:24 AM | message detail |
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With a few exceptions, I think the series in this contest will act on the strength of their most popular game. For instance, people don't look at Super Mario Bros. and think "Well, sure, SMB3 and SMW are among the best games ever made, but what about Super Mario Land on the Game Boy? That game's kinda mediocre, so SMB3's sheer quality is balanced out. Ditto for Super Mario Land 2 and SMW. Yoshi's Island is awesome too, and so is SM64, but Super Mario Sunshine was kinda disappointing. Hmm. Can the awesomeness of SMB3, SMW, YI, and SM64 make up for the mediocre other three? Let's think about this." No, people are much, much more likely to look at SMB and go "Hells yeah, SMB3 and SMW are ****ing awesome. *vote*" Elder Scrolls will be the one big aberration. I had never even thought about the name "Elder Scrolls" from March of this year until now. Everywhere I go, it's called either "Oblivion" or "Morrowind" and nothing else (yes, I realize there's Arena and Daggerfall too, but only about 2 people have played either of those games.) Kirby and Super Smash Bros. are the other two oddballs, but only because they're going to be majorly SFFed. --- "Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle." -Toad in Super Mario Bros. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/12/2006 6:40:18 AM | message detail |
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I don't think anyone is thinking like that. It's more of SMB3 is the favorite Mario game, so the Mario series will be as strong as that, right? But no, there's plenty of people who love Super Mario 64, who may not be old enough to appreciate SMB3 goodness, combining them together will only make them stronger. I don't anyone is saying a bad rep from the series will make it weaker. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| MarioGolfMaster | Posted 6/12/2006 6:54:34 AM | message detail |
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SMB>Sonic>SSB Sure, it's a long shot, but for some reason I think SSB will underpreform. People won't view it as the classic Mario series, just as a very good series. Sonic, on the other hand, has roots back to the Genesis/Game Gear days, and even though the recent ones have been weak, I sense an upset. After that, though, SMB will have the same tenure factor as Sonic, and will be viewed as better and more consistent. --- "Which is why this country is probably going to self-destruct long before it ever sees a tricentennial." -CZ, on the insistence of non-offensiveness |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/12/2006 7:04:22 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, but then there's Brawl. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/12/2006 7:06:18 AM | message detail |
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SSB is favourite against Sonic, but I have Sonic in a nice little upset
pick. It's game over if it gets some Brawl art in the pic though. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| MarioGolfMaster | Posted 6/12/2006 7:07:23 AM | message detail |
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I just don't want to pick SSB...I might have to, though. But where else can you find a good upset pick? --- "Which is why this country is probably going to self-destruct long before it ever sees a tricentennial." -CZ, on the insistence of non-offensiveness |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/12/2006 7:10:25 AM | message detail |
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Oh man, now I'm gonna have nightmares about Sonic vs SSB. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |