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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 290
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| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 1:37:46 PM | message detail |
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MGS2 sold a lot more than MGS and it could be more popular on the site as a whole. The sales numbers are about the same. And if it was more popular, it would have placed higher on the list, or at least would have been close. It didn't even beat MGS3... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:39:54 PM | message detail |
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And it didn't even come close to topping MGS3 either on top of that (20
places lower). Metal Gear Solid 2 is like Wind Waker in a sense (which
also didn't do too well in the Top 100 List), where it's not beloved,
but well-liked enough for series fans to support it over a lot of
things. Metal Gear Solid, on the other hand, is beloved. A MGS/MGS2 match would be ugly. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| consolefreak | Posted 6/11/2006 1:40:08 PM | message detail |
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You're forgetting that this is GameFAQs. You can't possibly argue
that Halo 2 brings more people to the site nearly two years after its
release than Kingdom Hearts 2 does 3 months after its release. Kingdom
Hearts 2 is an Action RPG. It's FAQ heavy. People discuss the
storyline. People discuss the sidequests. People discuss the boss
fights. RPGs in general bring more traffic to this site in general than
other genres. Yeah I suppose I worded that a bit confusingly. When I said 'bring new voters for the series' I didn't mean bring new people to the site 'gameFAQs', I meant make new fans amongst the existing gameFAQers. Then you have to consider that Kingdom Hearts 2 as a game makes the series a whole lot more likeable than Kingdom Hearts did by itself. Kingdom Hearts really wasn't that popular in 2k4. Sure it brought a lot of fans to the site, and had the FF characters in it. But as a game, it really wasn't held on the same level as a FF game. A lot of people really didn't like it because of the X mashing. KH2 did a whole lot to raise the series' popularity level. Sure you can say Halo 2 did as well, but not on the level as KH2. I've said before that the presence of Organization XIII and a much more awesome Sora, along with a better storyline gives people more reasons to become attached to the Kingdom Hearts series. It definitely will not be the same KH you saw in 2k4. I wouldn't know since I haven't played it. I played KH and never really liked it, and KH2 didn't convince me to buy it. I don't think it convinced a lot of people, actually. Plus the reviews weren't very exciting. Try again. Yeah upon checking more closely it outsold MGS by just 8000 units, and NA actually had stronger sales for MGS. Still, the points remain. --- "Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:41:32 PM | message detail |
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The points really don't remain when the original had stronger sales in
the demographic where it matters: North America. There is really little
reason for MGS2 to be stronger. Nothing anywhere has ever indicated
this. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 1:42:41 PM | message detail |
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I don't think it convinced a lot of people, actually. Plus the reviews weren't very exciting. It has. Kingdom Hearts is much more likable than it was in 2k4 among its fans. Trust me. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| consolefreak | Posted 6/11/2006 1:43:58 PM | message detail |
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The sales numbers are about the same. And if it was more popular, it
would have placed higher on the list, or at least would have been
close. It didn't even beat MGS3... There you go overrating the list. ToS is higher on the list than Halo 2. Who wins in a regular contest match? And it didn't even come close to topping MGS3 either on top of that (20 places lower). Metal Gear Solid 2 is like Wind Waker in a sense (which also didn't do too well in the Top 100 List), where it's not beloved, but well-liked enough for series fans to support it over a lot of things. Metal Gear Solid, on the other hand, is beloved. A MGS/MGS2 match would be ugly. Exactly. MGS is the fans favourite, and it shines in the top 100 format. In a normal format though, I don't see it being much stronger than MGS2 (indirectly), and I certainly see MGS2 being stronger than MGS3. --- "Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth" |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:44:08 PM | message detail |
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No, ONE review (singular) wasn't all that exciting. Nearly everywhere else gave it high scores. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/11/2006 1:45:31 PM | message detail |
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Indirectly, I'd imagine MGS and MGS2 being about even. Slight edge to
the original, but not so much that I'd consider anyone "crazy" for
thinking 2 might be stronger. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:46:13 PM | message detail |
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ToS is higher on the list than Halo 2. Who wins in a regular contest match? Both were write-ins, for what it's worth. And if you weren't on that drop-down list, you didn't do very well. Odd that you singled out the only two write-ins. And yes, the top 100 list isn't the end-all, be-all of gaming, but there's no way you're only going to be seeing some midtier games (which is what both MGS and GE looked like in Sp2K4) ranking THAT highly on the list. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 6/11/2006 1:46:35 PM | message detail |
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Who was it that was saying last year that Snake SFFed Sora? >_> --- caps |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:47:18 PM | message detail |
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...I really don't know what's NOT crazy about MGS2 being stronger than the original. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:47:56 PM | message detail |
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Who was it that was saying last year that Snake SFFed Sora? >_> *points to 4 posts above yours* --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| consolefreak | Posted 6/11/2006 1:48:24 PM | message detail |
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The points really don't remain when the original had stronger sales
in the demographic where it matters: North America. There is really
little reason for MGS2 to be stronger. Nothing anywhere has ever
indicated this. MGS being stronger than MGS2 was never really an issue. Most of my points don't even concern this particular statistic, even though it certainly is an argument pro MGS. It has. Kingdom Hearts is much more likable than it was in 2k4 among its fans. Trust me. Amongst the fans, maybe. But when faced with Halo, that's not where your extra votes should be coming from. Their fanbases don't overlap at all. No, ONE review (singular) wasn't all that exciting. Nearly everywhere else gave it high scores. All the 8.x scores are pretty much mediocre to the commoner and I doubt it'll convince people to buy the game if they didn't much like the original. --- "Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth" |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 1:50:24 PM | message detail |
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You were the one suggesting that MGS2 could be more popular than MGS on this site. We were just showing you otherwise. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:50:39 PM | message detail |
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I doubt it'll convince people to buy the game if they didn't much like the original. May I point you to May's Top 10 Best-Selling Games of the Month? Kingdom Hearts, a game over three years old, was 10th. And Chain of Memories outsold Metroid Prime Hunters and Tetris DS. People who didn't like/play the original aren't buying KHII? Please. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 1:50:50 PM | message detail |
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Exactly. MGS is the fans favourite, and it shines in the top 100
format. In a normal format though, I don't see it being much stronger
than MGS2 (indirectly), and I certainly see MGS2 being stronger than
MGS3. Metal Gear Solid is likely many people's favorite. There is plenty of reason to dislike Metal Gear Solid 2 and like Metal Gear Solid. I don't have any doubt that Metal Gear Solid is stronger than Metal Gear Solid 2 by quite a margin, indirectly and even moreso directly. MGS2 strikes me as the weakest game in the series, in fact. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 1:51:03 PM | message detail |
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MGS1: 2.83m MGS2: 2.32m MGS2 is bigger in Japan, giving it higher total sales. this isn't Japan though. I'd say that MGS is stronger than MGS2, though I don't think the difference is a huge one. I don't see how The List is more friendly to MGS than to Halo though. nothing is more friendly to a list format than Halo since there's noa ntivotes. also, MGS had three games on the list while Halo only had 1.. yet MGS still beat it by a place. MGS wins that matchup, and pretty easily. the series that I could see an argument for/against is GTA... if you go through old polls, GTA routinely beats MGS everywhere. the three big games in the seires placed similarly on the list as well, and GTA outperformed MGS2 on SSBM. I'd take GTA over Halo in a second. probably over KH, too. --- xyzzy |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 6/11/2006 1:51:28 PM | message detail |
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*points to 4 posts above yours* That's what I thought. So, does that mean MGS will SFF KH? Or maybe Halo will SFF KH. Because they both have H's. And they both faced Starcraft. <_< --- caps |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 1:53:17 PM | message detail |
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So, does that mean MGS will SFF KH? It's a debatable point, I suppose. Games seemed to be bigger SFF-fests than characters, at least in my opinion. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 1:55:13 PM | message detail |
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Amongst the fans, maybe. But when faced with Halo, that's not where
your extra votes should be coming from. Their fanbases don't overlap at
all. But Kingdom Hearts 2 is doing way more than Halo 2 in bringing fans on the site right now, which is (surprise, surprise) the time of the actual contest. Since Spring 2k4, we've had Chain of Memories and we've had Kingdom Hearts 2. You can't deny that there isn't a stronger Kingdom Hearts presence on this site... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 1:55:16 PM | message detail |
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Slight edge to the original, but not so much that I'd consider anyone "crazy" for thinking 2 might be stronger. May I ask what isn't crazy about someone thinking MGS2 is stronger than MGS? There's not one thing that points to that being the case. Well, unless you somehow believe that MGS's place in the stats for the Game Contest is accurate, which would have me shaking my head in disbelief that someone would think that. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| consolefreak | Posted 6/11/2006 1:55:22 PM | message detail |
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Both were write-ins, for what it's worth. And if you weren't on that
drop-down list, you didn't do very well. Odd that you singled out the
only two write-ins. I was doing that to make a solid comparison. Comparing a write-in to a non-write in doesn't really work. I'm sure there are comparisons to be like that amongst write-ins too, but I just couldn't think of one off the top of my head. And yes, the top 100 list isn't the end-all, be-all of gaming, but there's no way you're only going to be seeing some midtier games (which is what both MGS and GE looked like in Sp2K4) ranking THAT highly on the list. But Halo ranked #9, right behind MGS. Even though this format favours MGS. Who was it that was saying last year that Snake SFFed Sora? >_> Are you attacking my credibility, or are you making a point? I never strayed from that point of view. Would you mind sticking to the argument? You were the one suggesting that MGS2 could be more popular than MGS on this site. We were just showing you otherwise. And then continued to make a huge deal about it. It's a detail, it doesn't really relate that much to the argument. Certainly not so when you read what I said about me thinking that a series is not much stronger than its strongest entry. MGS may be stronger than MGS2, it's not going to be by a lot (indirectly). --- "Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth" |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 1:56:14 PM | message detail |
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and my best friend filled out a bracket, knowing nothing of this board really. here goes: Zelda Suikoden Metroid Pokemon Soul Calibur Silent Hill Castlevania KH Mario GTA Sonic SSB FF Mario Kart SF RE Zelda Metroid SC KH Mario Sonic FF SF Zelda KH Mario FF FF Zelda FF interesting comment here that probably means nothing: "I was like 'wait, mario kart constitutes a series? mario kart and no xeno or chrono is harsh'" --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/11/2006 1:57:21 PM | message detail |
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What a nerd. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 2:01:26 PM | message detail |
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MGS may be stronger than MGS2, it's not going to be by a lot (indirectly). I would actually disagree with that. I think Metal Gear Solid would, or at least could, end up being quite a bit stronger than Metal Gear Solid 2. As an example, I think MGS/SSBM becomes a match that one would require some serious thought in choosing a winner, at least by the value of SSBM in 2004. I have never once thought of MGS2 being nearly as strong as MGS. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:07:34 PM | message detail |
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It's a detail, it doesn't really relate that much to the argument.
Certainly not so when you read what I said about me thinking that a
series is not much stronger than its strongest entry. MGS may be
stronger than MGS2, it's not going to be by a lot (indirectly). Considering we're saying that MGS is stronger than MGS2 and you think that a series won't be much stronger than its strongest entry, how does it NOT relate to the argument, hmm? Just because YOU think they would be relatively equal doesn't mean others do. This is why this is called an argument. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 6/11/2006 2:10:16 PM | message detail |
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Are you attacking my credibility, or are you making a point? I never
strayed from that point of view. Would you mind sticking to the
argument? Neither. Seeing you just made me think of that argument, and I just wanted to see if it was you that was saying that. I wasn't being sarcastic or anything, I just forgot who it was. --- caps |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:17:40 PM | message detail |
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Unnecessary? I was pretty sure most of my posts were pretty related
to the brackets....sure there was the big inflation of poll related
posts, but I was just asking cause Bellis, Leonhart, and tran started
posting a couple of em. Anyhow...here's a question. What do you guys
think is potentially the greatest upset of this contest? It was nothing against you personally. People just always do that when they first create a stats topic, as if they have to "justify" their right to make it. If you post here and aren't a troll, feel free to make one if I'm not here at 400. It's nothing special, really. Potentially, probably Sonic > Smash Brothers. Few people think Sonic stands a chance, but I fear it. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:22:05 PM | message detail |
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LordOfDabu Posted 6/11/2006 3:44:34 PM message detail #279 I sent a copy of the bracket to a bunch of my random friends, a majority of which have no interest in GameFAQs. I was quite surprised by the first response, as even without seeing any other contest results he seemed to nail almost all of the matches with what one would expect from someone who has been here awhile. This would seem to suggest that the bracket is indeed easy to predict (or that everyone's way off). He attached the following slightly humorous comment: "The Final Fantasy fans are too rabid to allow anything else to win. I know people who would resort to bombings and assassinations before they'd let anything be accepted as a better video game series. People almost crucified me when I suggested that Advent Children was a boring movie that relied on special effects to carry it." He's not entering the contest and doesn't have a GameFAQs account, so there's no harm in posting his bracket to get a look at what a typical casual may think: http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dansbracket0ed.jpg Interesting that he has Sonic > Smash and Mega Man > Mario Kart. That bracket is a huge shock to me. I think I disagree with him a mere thrice. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:27:03 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why we're so quick to label anything and everything SFF,
yet dismiss Snake/Sora SFF just because the guy that came up with the
idea trolled in the past. It's not that far-fetched, really. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/11/2006 2:28:31 PM | message detail |
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Hah. It only has 2 matches different from mine. Curious that a casual picked Warcraft over GTA though. --- ertyu and VeghEsther are truly proof that there is much about this world we still do not understand. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:28:49 PM | message detail |
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Well, I've never bought Snake/Sora being all due to the picture, and I
know the latter isn't that weak either. I think we're just a little
reluctant to call it "SFF" because the two characters are seemingly
unrelated other than sharing a console. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/11/2006 2:30:04 PM | message detail |
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Forget that, I'm calling it SFF. It's a lot easier than using "something fishy" every time I bring up a weird result. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/11/2006 2:31:03 PM | message detail |
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I think we're just a little reluctant to call it "SFF" because the
two characters are seemingly unrelated other than sharing a console. They share the site's favorite console. Just because Playstation SFF is more odd doesn't mean it can't have the same effect as two Nintendo characters. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM (Sora), Larussa 92 (NYY), NSMB, WC3: Frozen Throne |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:31:04 PM | message detail |
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Well, you could just drop one F and you have the acronym for "something fishy." Snake/Sora SF, huh? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 2:31:52 PM | message detail |
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Potentially, probably Sonic > Smash Brothers. Few people think Sonic stands a chance, but I fear it. But Sonic games really aren't more popular than Smash Bros. I think even collectively. I think people are fearing it because Sonic is strong as a character, but as I said with Mario Kart, there is no "character" to define the strength of SSB. For all we know, that "character" would be more popular than Sonic as well. Nothing I've seen so far would make me think that Sonic should be the favorite in that matchup... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 2:32:30 PM | message detail |
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Snake/Sora WTF --- xyzzy |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/11/2006 2:32:42 PM | message detail |
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Eh.. the match that gave me nightmares used to be MM/MK.. now I'm having Halo/KH giving me nightmares. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/11/2006 2:32:57 PM | message detail |
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XD I think you might have something there. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/11/2006 2:36:38 PM | message detail |
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Snake/Sora WTF People said that about Link/Megaman 2004 (me included - I saw no reason for SFF there), but wasn't it proved by Sonic and Mega's 2k5 matches? --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 2:38:35 PM | message detail |
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| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:39:48 PM | message detail |
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Essentially, a Link/Mega Man overperformance was confirmed (at least in
my mind) by SC2K5. People didn't want to buy "SFF" because Mega Man
wasn't "Nintendo" despite spending his first 10 or so years on that
system. Since then, people have realized that there's more to SFF than
a company. Oh, and Mega Man blasting Yoshi kinda gave people the idea that he could SFF (or get SFF'd by) Nintendo characters. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 2:39:57 PM | message detail |
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I noticed something earlier when I was skimming through the polls that
TRE put up on that link, and it may have already been posted during
that poll posting fest we had going on in here, but ... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=580 Sonic & Knuckles won that poll without much trouble. Sonic Adventure 2 placed at a nice third, but it is notable that it hadn't been released on the GameCube back then, so I think it would have been at least second with that under its belt. Not really posting this to try to argue with anything, but I just thought it was worth noting since some of us have said Sonic 2 wasn't going to be Sonic's strongest game. Not really anything absolutely dominant there, but interesting nonetheless ... --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/11/2006 2:40:26 PM | message detail |
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And I find it odd that, for being the Mario games favorite character, Yoshi sure doesn't act like it in a contest. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/11/2006 2:42:49 PM | message detail |
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Sonic 3 and Knuckles would probably be the strongest, had it been
allowed to be entered. I don't think it was even eligible for the top
10 list - it definitely wasn't on the drop-down, and I couldn't find it
to write it in. I mean, Sonic 3 is half a game, same with S+K. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 6/11/2006 2:43:57 PM | message detail |
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And I find it odd that, for being the Mario games favorite character, Yoshi sure doesn't act like it in a contest. Yeah, but Mario has the insane name recognition. People see the name "Mario", they think of SMB3 or SM64, depending on your age. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 Beef Jerky, Catgirls, DESU DESU DESU! O_o |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/11/2006 2:43:59 PM | message detail |
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Suppose you could use that Ken/Ryu, Sub/Scorp theory on that one Leon. --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/11/2006 2:45:32 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why we're so quick to label anything and everything SFF,
yet dismiss Snake/Sora SFF just because the guy that came up with the
idea trolled in the past. It's not that far-fetched, really. I don't think it sounds particularly odd to anyone at this point. I just think the problem people might have with calling it "SFF" is that we generally have applied to the same company or same series and things sound odd when the connection between the two is a similar console. For example, I said something earlier about SMW/Sonic 2 SFF outside of this topic and someone thought I was nuts for thinking there was SFF, but it's just something that I, and others in the stats topic, do instead of just saying something strange happened in the match. "SFF" has almost become just a way to say "something odd happened" -- SOH!! But yeah, I don't think many people in here dismiss the idea of Snake/Sora SFF ... or at least something odd happening. There's no way Sora decreased that year. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| transience | Posted 6/11/2006 2:47:16 PM | message detail |
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I really don't think S3&K would do any better than S2 against SMW.
(holy acronyms!) I think that people will either vote for the Mario
game or the Sonic game. it probably wouldn't do any more than 1-2%
better. --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/11/2006 2:48:52 PM | message detail |
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I think the picture might have made SFF in that matchup come to the forefront. I've said before, I don't see how anybody
even familiar with Metal Gear Solid, even Kingdom Hearts fans, could
not vote for Snake in that picture. If you knew anything about Metal
Gear Solid whatsoever, Snake should have gotten that vote! That picture
was hilarious. And Sora was hardly prominent in it... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |