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Big Bob | Posted 6/10/2006 5:39:33 PM | message detail
To add to that, Castlevania has spanned many generations. There are the old-school gamers who remember it on the NES and SNES, the ones who think SotN is one of the best games every, the recent PS2 games (though I heard those were mediocre), and the GBA/DS series. It's likely that many gamers have experienced its greatness at some point. (I'm a fan of the series now, and all I've played is the GBA games...)
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 5:42:59 PM | message detail
Master Chief have ever blown anything out on this site.

He stomped a big mudhole in Crash Bandicoot.
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creativename | Posted 6/10/2006 5:44:49 PM | message detail
And have I lost it, or is everyone else on crack? HOW IS ELDER SCROLLS VS. STREET FIGHTER NOT EVEN DEBATABLE?

I'm looking at the URL...and Street Fighter isn't a no-brainer here against any major RPG, IMO.

And Oblivion is the second most popular game of the year so far. Also I don't see Morrowind being that much weaker than Knights of the Old Republic, which for what it's worth, ranked higher than SF2 in the best game contest.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 5:47:13 PM | message detail
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Elder Scrolls take Street Fighter out, but most people seem to agree that SF is the easy pick.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 6/10/2006 5:48:40 PM | message detail
Wait, really? I thought the other way around was the easy pick...

I must be going crazy.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 5:50:03 PM | message detail
Of course, most of this board is unfamiliar with Elder Scrolls, so that's possibly why Street Fighter is viewed as the "easy" pick.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 6/10/2006 5:52:18 PM | message detail
I think some people need to check the top 10 right now.
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Lopen | Posted 6/10/2006 5:53:29 PM | message detail
Mario RPG probably got a little bit of the SFF against Chrono Trigger. I doubt Street Fighter 2 is as weak as it looks. I'd take it over quite a few games that are above it.

As for Elder Scrolls, I just wouldn't call it a major RPG, at least not here. I don't think Street Fighter will break a sweat against it.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 5:54:07 PM | message detail
Well, Street Fighter still got 44% on Super Mario RPG. It's not weak at all. Elder Scrolls also is no Super Mario RPG... It could be close, but I feel confident picking Street Fighter. Neither is that big a series on this site, but at least more people have played Street Fighter. I can't see people who aren't big fans of Elder Scrolls picking against Street Fighter unless they actually dislike Street Fighter.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 6/10/2006 5:55:38 PM | message detail
Elder Scrolls is currently spearheading a console.

>_>
<_<

So what if it's the 360.....
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LordOfDabu | Posted 6/10/2006 5:59:10 PM | message detail
How is ES not major?

I must not be in synch with the gaming scene where I am. Everyone I know is talking about the game.
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creativename | Posted 6/10/2006 6:04:25 PM | message detail
Honestly, I think my main cause for concern with TES would be people not equating "Oblivion" and "Morrowind" with "The Elder Scrolls". As a franchise name it's very weak.

Lopen Posted 6/10/2006 8:53:29 PM:
Mario RPG probably got a little bit of the SFF against Chrono Trigger. I doubt Street Fighter 2 is as weak as it looks. I'd take it over quite a few games that are above it.

I agree that the old ranking might be misleading, which is why I said for what it's worth. It's still something to consider though.

therealmnm Posted 6/10/2006:
Well, Street Fighter still got 44% on Super Mario RPG. It's not weak at all. Elder Scrolls also is no Super Mario RPG... It could be close, but I feel confident picking Street Fighter. Neither is that big a series on this site, but at least more people have played Street Fighter. I can't see people who aren't big fans of Elder Scrolls picking against Street Fighter unless they actually dislike Street Fighter.

I agree with this; as far as I'm aware Elder Scrolls itself doesn't have high name recognition, which is definitely Street Fighter's strength, and certainly a lot more people will have played SF than TES.

It's just that Street Fighter isn't particuarly strong here by any means. And Oblivion has been real hot. Frankly, my first impression for this match was that Elder Scrolls would be the topic favorite.

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Lopen | Posted 6/10/2006 6:06:01 PM | message detail
Eh... I'm just using GameFAQs "common sense" for this call. It just doesn't feel like it should be popular, here. It's a non square RPG primarily for the PC, having somewhat standout titles for the X-Box. I'm not feeling it. I could be wrong, obviously.

This poll doesn't make things look too grim, but I wouldn't quite call it reassuring either.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384

The top 10 doesn't really mean jack... unless you want to argue that the Hitman series could cause some waves too.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 6:07:01 PM | message detail
But 44% on Super Mario RPG isn't what I would call weak to begin with! If this were Elder Scrolls vs. Mario RPG, would you be expecting Elder Scrolls to get 44%?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:09:56 PM | message detail
A lot of our personal expectations are biased anyway, so that's not a question that people who aren't familiar with Elder Scrolls will answer in the affirmative. People who have just might.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 6/10/2006 6:11:21 PM | message detail
Elder Scroll's chances really depend on what kind of picture it gets. If it gets something saying Oblivion it could have a chance.
transience | Posted 6/10/2006 6:13:59 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384

I definitely am thinking about ES over SF.... but I don't know. I wonder how many people have played ES. had this taken place a couple years ago, games like TOS and SO3 would be atop the top 50. I think console RPGs are simply more popular than PC RPGs here.

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AmazingKirby | Posted 6/10/2006 6:15:44 PM | message detail
I didn't even know Elder Scrolls was a series until now. I always thought it was a sub-title of some other series. >_>
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transience | Posted 6/10/2006 6:17:04 PM | message detail
check it out - interesting past poll results!

Game of the Year polls:

2001

Dreamcast: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767
Playstation: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=768
n64: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=769
PC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=770
Cube: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=772
Xbox: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=773
GBA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=774
PS2: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=775
Overall: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=776

2002

GBA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1127
Cube: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128
PC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1129
PS2: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1130
Overall: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1134

2003:

GBA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1485
Cube: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1486
PC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1487
PS2: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1488
Xbox: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1489
Multi: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1490
Final: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1492

2004:

GBA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869
Cube: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1870
PC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1871
PS2: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1872
Xbox: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1873
Final: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1877

2005:

DS: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2243
GBA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2244
Cube: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2245
PC: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2246
PS2: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247
PSP: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2248
Xbox: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2249
Multi: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2251
Final: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254


Let's end the debate now. Which was the best Final Fantasy game?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1573
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1178
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=576
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3

What's your all-time least favorite Final Fantasy title?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=577

Do you think the Final Fantasy series is overrated?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=579

Favourite:

Zelda: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1180
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1225

Mario: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1181
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2328

Sonic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=580
RE: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1179
Castlevania: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1252
Metroid: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1528
GTA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1831

Favourite Character polls

Mario: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=634
Street Fighter: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=840
FFX: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=841
FF7: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=845
FF8: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=846
FF6: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=847

What's your opinion of the Pokémon craze?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=320
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=155
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=5

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transience | Posted 6/10/2006 6:17:31 PM | message detail
Series:

Konami: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=520
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1453

Namco: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=521
Square: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=522
Capcom: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=523
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1454
Sega: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=524
Nintendo:http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525
Square (non-FF): http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1182
Mega Man: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1834

Are you one of the 5 million World of Warcraft players?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2232
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:19:08 PM | message detail
Heh, DMC didn't do so well in the Favorite Capcom series poll.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 6:20:58 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2384

Okay, so Oblivion got 22% in that poll. Where's the other 28% going to come from needed to win a match? I know Elder Scrolls is more than Oblivion, but humor me here. 30% haven't even played any of those games, let alone Oblivion. I highly doubt that the majority of the Nintendo fanbase would vote Elder Scrolls over something as more known as Street Fighter. I just don't think Elder Scrolls simply has enough to draw from to take down something like Street Fighter. I definitely don't think Oblivion is enough, and I doubt that the other games in the series will add a lot to it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:22:27 PM | message detail
Where's the other 28% going to come from needed to win a match?

I guess from the ones who voted for a game that didn't vote for Elder Scrolls.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 6:26:15 PM | message detail
I guess from the ones who voted for a game that didn't vote for Elder Scrolls.

But in my question, I meant do you really think that's going to happen. There would have to be a big overlap between fans of the other games and Elder Scrolls. I just don't see it.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:28:25 PM | message detail
Okay, well, then you've got the rest of the series to fall back on. Honestly, you could look at any of those polls, and ask yourself where Kingdom Hearts is going to get another 23% to win a match, especially when it was against competition WE expected it to trump handily.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
meche313 | Posted 6/10/2006 6:29:01 PM | message detail
I have a question.

I have seen the debates of the first division, and I obviously saw Kirby has nothing to in favor to beat Metroid. But, I ask:

Why anyone that votes for Kirby as a character not vote for Kirby as a series?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/10/2006 6:29:39 PM | message detail
KotOR = Street Fighter > Elder Scrolls, IMO. ES only has two games...nobody here's played Daggerfall or the other one.
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transience | Posted 6/10/2006 6:30:07 PM | message detail
SSB/M, of course. plus Kirby has an awesome design that a lot of people love.
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Lopen | Posted 6/10/2006 6:30:54 PM | message detail
I thought Leonhart and I did a pretty good job of explaining it over yonder.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:31:17 PM | message detail
Why anyone that votes for Kirby as a character not vote for Kirby as a series?

The same reason why I'd find myself more likely to vote for Mega Man's games than Mega Man. You can like a character without liking his games, or vice-versa.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 6:32:18 PM | message detail
And that's not to say I don't like Mega Man. I do. I just like his games more than I like him. It's the exact opposite for Kirby. Kirby's games are fun because of Kirby himself. Not because they're anything stellar or groundbreaking.
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transience | Posted 6/10/2006 6:32:22 PM | message detail
as for Oblivion: I'm not trying to discredit it at all, but games that are wide open and nonlinear like ES always end up high on the FAQ list. it's why games like Suikoden manage to stay up there despite having next to no sales. (anyone got Oblivion sales handy?) I see Morrowind at #50 and it's apparently been on the list for 1317 days, so Elder Scrolls has always had a presence there. it's not like Oblivion is the first game to ever get GameFAQs love.

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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 6:32:25 PM | message detail
Why anyone that votes for Kirby as a character not vote for Kirby as a series?

That's a pretty silly question, no offense. As I stated in the other topic, Kirby has been around for 14 years. He's had plenty of games and more than enough time to establish a name in gaming, and therefore popularity. You don't necessarily have to be a huge fan of his games to like the character.
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meche313 | Posted 6/10/2006 6:35:39 PM | message detail
Nevermind my stupid question then. It seems it was pretty bad.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/10/2006 6:40:06 PM | message detail
@<(^_^)^ *issokay!

Okay, that's the first and last time I will post a Kirby ASCII.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:26:47 PM | message detail
So what did the discussion shift to while I was gone guys?
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:30:14 PM | message detail
Ahh, Elder Scrolls/Street Fighter. As long as ES avoids a tripling, I'll be content with its performance.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 8:31:17 PM | message detail
You're going to be very content then.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:40:30 PM | message detail
Why, what do you expect of it?
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/10/2006 8:41:32 PM | message detail
I'm expecting a respectable lo... oh, you weren't talking to me. =(
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:44:19 PM | message detail
Hell, I'll take your opinion too yoblazer, but you'll prolly be like "Street Fightah with seventy fizzive percent lolz"
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/10/2006 8:45:33 PM | message detail
Or you can be like me and pick Elder Scrolls for no discernable reason!

...meh, I'll probably change it once I've talked myself out of it. I originally had Halo beating Metal Gear, for Christ's sake, then thought it through and changed it. But my other upsets are staying!
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/10/2006 8:45:57 PM | message detail
Also...

FACT or FICTION: I will not win the "Ed Bellis Award" this year.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:47:26 PM | message detail
Bellis, I'll tell whats a good upset! Warcraft over GTA >_> course I'm not picking that, but it is a good upset...<_<
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/10/2006 8:48:30 PM | message detail
That's actually one I'm not taking. I'd take GTA over Sonic, Mega Man (and X), Metroid, Mario Kart, and possibly even Kingdom Hearts. It'll take more than "vote rallying" to take it down, IMO.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:51:07 PM | message detail
GTA OVER SONIC AND MEGAMAN?! WHOA WHOA WHOA!....course those others are a little possible. But GTA over Sonic and MM? I dunno dawg.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/10/2006 8:52:25 PM | message detail
Grand Theft Auto WILL be one of the strongest entrants in this contest.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:53:21 PM | message detail
So how much you expect ES to get man? And while were on that GTA thing, how much you expect it to get on Mario?
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/10/2006 8:54:28 PM | message detail
If I decide to keep Elder Scrolls as the victor, it'll probably just beat Street Fighter in the closest match of the first round.

And I fully expect GTA to come within 40% of SMB.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/10/2006 8:55:18 PM | message detail
40% is actually pretty logical....I'm diggin it.
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