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Yesmar | Posted 6/9/2006 2:27:30 PM | message detail
Although not many people play WoW on GameFAQS, I don't think there'll be a lot of anti-votes. I've never really come across any really solid core hate base for it, so I don't understand where that claim's coming from. From what I've seen, the general attitude towards it on GameFAQS is either love or apathy.
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Seginustemple | Posted 6/9/2006 2:29:25 PM | message detail
Nergal? Nergal was sweet.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/9/2006 2:29:54 PM | message detail
Say what you will about Pyramid Head, but could you really see *insert Fire Emblem villain here* doing much better?

No, but I could definitely see Lyndis doing a lot better than that Sunderland guy who's the main character of Silent Hill.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/9/2006 2:31:27 PM | message detail
Nergal was a hack.

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Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 2:34:01 PM | message detail
No, but I could definitely see Lyndis doing a lot better than that Sunderland guy who's the main character of Silent Hill.

James Sunderland beats heads in with his mighty lumber. Don't mess with James.

(Less stupid version: I honestly doubt it. They'd both be jobber fodder, though I'd take Sunderland in a Vyse/Laharl situation)
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
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therealmnm | Posted 6/9/2006 2:38:59 PM | message detail
Why do I have a feeling that WoW-heads on this board are going to personally do what it takes to start rallying for Warcraft, especially because it's up against GTA? The majority of the Warcraft nation has already shown it isn't really that interested in GameFAQs polls. Yet, I can already feel some people around here doing whatever it takes to not let the "casual" GTA win...
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trannyscience | Posted 6/9/2006 2:40:15 PM | message detail
I was thinking the same thing just now, mnm. I could see some of our WOW freaks like Funk hitting the forums with full force.

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SquallidSnake | Posted 6/9/2006 2:41:49 PM | message detail
Oh, there's no doubt that the Warcraft marks here will be rallying in full force. It just won't matter when it's at that big of a disadvantage. As I said before, StarCraft was plenty strong without the rallying. Sure, in the matches it did have, it probably needed the votes it got, but Warcraft is going to be losing by more than 1000 votes.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/9/2006 2:44:35 PM | message detail
Heh, I'm not worried about it in the least. Hell, the people coming on this site for GTA:LCS FAQs will be enough to counter for the potential rallying that WoW will have. GTA fans already frequent this site.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/9/2006 2:48:24 PM | message detail
"Being a side series doesn't matter when it comes to games, if it is a popular side series. Like I said before, SSB is a side series and look how popular it is on this site. The whole side series thing is becoming another "Vincent is an optional character" phenomenon."

Truthery. No matter how much I thinkit should not be so, MMX is going to be stronger than MMClassic, and MM's popularity comes from a combination of the two... they don't have an absolute overlap. MMC will only be a fraction of MM's power, Mario Kart is exceptionally popular of its own right (I mean, look at how many "spin-offs" there are in this contest, not even FFT made it.) and if this were a game contest I doubt most of you would take MM2 over MK64.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/9/2006 2:49:26 PM | message detail
StarCraft is significantly stronger here than WarCraft. WC just won't be putting up a win.
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consolefreak | Posted 6/9/2006 2:50:47 PM | message detail
1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - yoblazer33
5 - transience
6 - Heroic Mario
7 - Viviff
8 - silverkiller
9 - Undeniable
10 - Kaxon
11 - Applekidjosh
12 - HaRRicH
13 - Lopen
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Chinballz
16 - A World's Envy
17 - Zylothewolf
18 - greatone
19 - cavedog0
20 - DomaDragoon
21 - Big Bob
22 - Ed Bellis
23 - expaniol
24 - Buzzup
25 - Radix
26 - RPGuy96
27 - Dethwing
28 - soiledtrousers
29 - consolefreak
30 - SephirothG
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - Dark115
33 - NewLib
34 - Draco1214
35 - jonthomson
36 - MegatokyoEd
37 - Voltch
38 - Lucid Faia
39 - Master Moltar
40 - KleenexTissue50
41 - red sox 777
42 - Mithrandir1331
43 - arkenaga
44 - Tai
45 - Mario Superstar
46 - neonreaper
47 - XxSoulxX
48 - SonicRaptor
49 - ChichiriMuyo
50 - OMG its Pale!
51 - dragoontheguy
52 - XIII is cool
53 - Shivan Reincarnated
54 - outback
55 - DarkLink89
56 - dethfdddddh
57 - Ayvuir
58 - Janus5000
59 - War13104
60 - andaca
61 - swirldude
62 - Explicit Content
63 - Meche313
64 - HeroicVivi
65 - FastFalcon05
66 - Tnote
67 - Yesmar
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - MasterMage119
70 - King Morgoth
71 - Aprosenf
72 - Phediuk
73 - charmander6000
74 - Rufus Shinra 18
75 - Mister Mario
76 - Luis Sera89
77 - longbladeofhiko
78 - shadow8021
79 - Lieutenant Kettch
80 - RPGGamer0
81 - WiggumFan267
82 - MetaRidleyX
83 - chocoboslayer
84 - FFDragon
85 - GrapefruitKing
86 - Lagoona
87 - The CruelAngel
88 - Fett0001
89 - cyko
90 - Dunkeroo23
91 - Bobby200614
92 - Tediz247
93 - Samurai7
94 - Jman_GamerX8
95 - ps2rulezzz
96 - Dilated Chemist
97 - Guess how many Teens
98 - Prometheus321
99 - Steinershocker
100 - TheLivingDemon
101 - Tirofog
102 - TheRye
103 - Vile Requiem
104 - rpgapzx
105 - Pathetique
106 - Brett with Atreyu
107 - outsider920
108 - raytan7585
109 - Acronym


Has ^^ that thing started yet? If so, what is it called again?
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therealmnm | Posted 6/9/2006 2:52:23 PM | message detail
Has anybody besides me brought up the fact that GTA:LCS has already snuck up to #3 on the FAQ list? <.<
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/9/2006 2:57:44 PM | message detail
I'm seriously worried that Zelda can beat Final Fantasy. The only thing FF really has going for it is FF7. Link and Zelda have the advantage just about everywhere else.

For the hell of it, go to the stats calculator and put FF7 against 2005 Link. Couldn't Zelda make that up fairly easily?

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Master Moltar | Posted 6/9/2006 2:58:54 PM | message detail
MM/MK, now this is a nice match to debate. When I first put MM over in my bracket, I figured it was a lock. However, the moment someone questioned it, I had doubts and realized this match was tougher than I first realized.

I'm keeping MM, but there are some good arguments from the MK side. I wouldn't take any individual MM game over Mario Kart, but as a whole, I think the series can pull through. I'm with those that say Mega Man draws his power from his series, so they can't be too far apart.
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trannyscience | Posted 6/9/2006 3:00:39 PM | message detail
I've yet to hear a MM/MK argument (maybe I just missed them), but I'd take MK64 over any MM game easily, and probably would do the same with SMK. maybe MKDS as well. MM has the anniversary collection and the enormous quantity of games going for it, but that's about all.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 3:02:42 PM | message detail
go to the stats calculator and put FF7 against 2005 Link. Couldn't Zelda make that up fairly easily?

What the...?

And what do you mean, all FF has is Final Fantasy VII? Since when are FFVI, FFVIII, and FFX nothing?

Oh right, because LttP is a little stronger than Final Fantasy VI, right? OH NO! ZELDA WINS!
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/9/2006 3:03:34 PM | message detail
...how are the games able to measured along with the characters in the xstats calculator?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 3:04:14 PM | message detail
They aren't. We just guessed.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 3:04:55 PM | message detail
Mario Kart will be the biggest disappointment of this contest I wager <_<
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/9/2006 3:05:39 PM | message detail
LTTP wound up beating FF6 by almost 5000 votes. I don't think FF could beat Zelda 1. FF8 vs MM is tough. FFX and Wind Waker are equal.

I'm not saying that Zelda is a lock or anything, but it's not a bad upset pick.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 3:07:39 PM | message detail
Okay, how many people are going to look at it the way you're going about it?

"Well, I like Final Fantasy VII more than Ocarina of Time. But wait, I like Link to the Past more than Final Fantasy VI. But wait! I like Final Fantasy VIII more than Majora's Mask. But wait! I like the Legend of Zelda more than Final Fantasy I. But wait! I like Final Fantasy X more than the Wind Waker. Let me put their respective values into a calculator and determine who I should vote for."

I'd imagine more people are going to say, "I LOVE FINAL FANTASY VII!" and vote for FF.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Applekidjosh | Posted 6/9/2006 3:12:00 PM | message detail
don't forget Final Fantasy Tactics in your inane debate ^_^
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 3:12:49 PM | message detail
Oh right.

"But wait! Final Fantasy Tactics doesn't even count! BAH! It's my favorite game ever, but since it doesn't count, I can't vote for Final Fantasy! CURSE YOU, CJAYC!!!!"
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Master Moltar | Posted 6/9/2006 3:13:06 PM | message detail
Okay, how many people are going to look at it the way you're going about it?

>_> *raises hand*

But seriously, I agree. Most people are going to see FF, think FF7 and vote for it. I'm not counting out the LoZ series though. Should be a good final match IMO. I'd expect FF to take it with 52-53%. FF's match with SMB should make it a bit more clear.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 3:17:11 PM | message detail
More SH/FE discussion plz. Fire Emblem supporters, give me good reasons to why you think it'll win.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 3:18:39 PM | message detail
Hmmm...Here's a good question: Who will be the favorite to win the contest in the brackets?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 3:22:05 PM | message detail
I'd imagine more people are going to say, "I LOVE FINAL FANTASY VII!" and vote for FF.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. It's basically gonna be boiling down to favorite from Series A vs favorite from Series B. I'd imagine people would only really think about the series when it's a close call between the favorites that stick out in your mind. I mean, it's how I'm gonna vote, and clearly everyone should be voting like me.

"I like Final Fantasy Tactics a bit more than Halo 2, but Halo >>> FFTA... give me Halo"

But I'd vote Final Fantasy Tactics over Super Mario Brothers without thinking, just because none of the Mario Games really rank that high to me, despite liking the series overall quite a bit.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/9/2006 3:22:59 PM | message detail
"I'm seriously worried that Zelda can beat Final Fantasy. The only thing FF really has going for it is FF7. Link and Zelda have the advantage just about everywhere else."

Because FF6 isn't a top 10 game also and 8 and 10 aren't pretty well up there and they don't all have unique fans that will vote for the series based on that single entry they loved the most. FF has as much going for it as Zelda if you exclude the top options of both, FF7 just pulls it a million miles away.

"I don't think FF could beat Zelda 1."

No one does, but then again you're looking at it wrong. You don't pair them up by generation ('cause if you did, FF8 wins over MM by a lot and FF10 beats Wind Waker easily enough that they MORE than make up for the losses to LoZ and Lttp... and FF7 STILL blows OoT out of the water) you pair them up by popularity. The 3rd strongest Zelda is LoZ, the third strongest FF is X.

"I'd imagine more people are going to say, "I LOVE FINAL FANTASY VII!" and vote for FF."

Exactly. At least 1/4th of the population is going to pick FF(7) over everything else and they are going to do it without thinking about it. Zelda does not have that kind of security.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/9/2006 3:25:36 PM | message detail
"Hmmm...Here's a good question: Who will be the favorite to win the contest in the brackets?"

FF, even the vast majority of casuals can't come up with good reason to back Zelda over FF. It's illogical and it's a sign you don't really want to win. I've said this before (OoT vs. FF7) and I'll say it again;

The correct answer for this match is so obvious that there might as well only be the one. Do not throw your bracket away because you want to game the system or because you think Zelda has a legitimate shot at winning. It doesn't.
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swirIdude | Posted 6/9/2006 4:00:33 PM | message detail
I side with Chichiri here. In terms of upsets, I see very few possibilties, both seedwise and statswise.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/9/2006 4:08:20 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who remembers how many people thought the 2004 bracket was great when it first came out?
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swirIdude | Posted 6/9/2006 4:15:40 PM | message detail
...apparently, yes.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/9/2006 6:42:37 PM | message detail
Halo vs. KH is such a cool match. It's probably the one I'm most looking foward too.

I mean, both games did pretty much the same against Starcraft (and cheating or not, there would be the same amount of it anyway for both matches). I think Halo did a bit better if I recall.

This was when KH had more hate, I believe.
But the same is true for Halo.

KH the game/series has got to be more popular than Sora, for Anti-ClownShoe factor. For those who haven't played KH2 yet, his kiddish KH1 personality is an affect on voting.
But the same is probably true for Chief and Halo. I mean... he doesn't do much.

Also this was before KH2....
....and Halo 2...

Both of which were better than the originals (in most eyes anyway), and will help each one since then and Halo 2 wasn't on the drop down and still got on the Top 100, which is impressive. My theory on that though is that the online Halo 2ers were either too busy playing, too obsessed with 1337sp33k, or just too damn lazy to type the 2 in front of the Halo.

But now, Halo 2 is kinda old news, and Halo 3 is too far off, while KH2 is fresh hat. And we never have truly seen what Halo can do, and not too much of what KH can. Maybe after we see how Soul Calibur does on Metal Gear, we'll have a better idea.


All that said, I picked KH, but I may change. This banking mostly on 2 things.

1) KH2 is much more recent and should give a nicer boost to KH1 than Halo 2 did to Halo 1. I can't see someone loving Halo 2 and not 1 (or vice versa?). It's hard to say too that someone can love KH2 and not 1 (or vice versa?), but it's a bit easier than Halo.

2) I believe KH lost a lot of its kiddie/Disney votes with a more mature Sora, but it's still there. Halo and Chief's anti-votes I can't see going down since Halo 2. Halo 2 can get it MORE good votes, but not less anti-votes. This is sorta like above. If you hated Halo 1, you probably won't like 2 (or if you're a flatout XBox hater, which is a lot of GameFAQs). I know people who have played KH2 though, and loved it, without playing KH1. So, KH2 made some anti-votes go away for KH, imo, while Halo still has the same amount of anti-voters.

(and yeah, if you were paying attention, I just posted this in MM's topic, but I wanted to post it here too >.>)


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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/9/2006 7:02:07 PM | message detail
The main factor for me in choosing KH over Halo is that Master Chief's improvement between 2k4 and 2k5 was so small. I had thought it might put him up in the range of Squall and Zero and the like, but instead it did almost nothing.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/9/2006 7:28:47 PM | message detail
It takes a hell of a lot to become as popular as Squall or Zero. Master Chief is not a character from a popular RPG, and he really hasn't been around that long. That he's so high already is a testament to his popularity, but come on now. There isn't really much room for him to go so soon. Look at all the top characters and look at how long they've been around.

Dante is the newest character we have among the strong characters, and he's not even on that level yet. It takes a lot to actually replace the perennial favorites in popularity.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 7:30:12 PM | message detail
Vincent did a pretty good job of it...course hes from FF7, so would he be included in the "perennial favorites" category?
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 7:30:53 PM | message detail
Looks like Kingdom Hearts II might be making more of an impact than we think.

Top 10
1/ New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo) 275 692 [New]
2/ Kingdom Hearts 2 (PS2, Square-Enix) 168 944 [1 318 967]
3/ Brain Training (NDS, Nintendo) 109 432 [199 749]
4/ God of War (PS2, Sony) 106 707 [1 144 513]
5/ Ghost Recon : Advanced Warfighter (X360, UbiSoft) 84 431 [702 484]
6/ Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion (X360, Take Two) 83 507 [611 246]
7/ MLB 06 : The Show (PS2, Sony) 81 895 [409 745]
8/ Guitar Hero (PS2, RedOctane) 67 871 [?????]
9/ GTA San Andreas (PS2, Take Two) 64 520 [6 402 804]
10/ Kingdom Hearts (PS2, Square-Enix) 60 236 [2 742 017]

Other numbers:
NDS METROID PRIME: HUNTERS 30,957
NDS TETRIS 21,099
GBA KINGDOM HEARTS: CHAIN 30,416

These are American numbers.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/9/2006 7:30:59 PM | message detail
I thought Dante had about a month on Chief. I know DMC was released in October of 2001, and I thought the Xbox launched in November.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 7:32:38 PM | message detail
course hes from FF7, so would he be included in the "perennial favorites" category?

Considering we have at least three Final Fantasy VII characters (Tifa and/or Aeris is debatable, I suppose) before we get to the next strongest Final Fantasy character, I'd say yes.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 6/9/2006 7:36:06 PM | message detail
Notice how I said Master Chief isn't from a popular RPG? And still, FF7 has been around since 1997. I think popular FF characters can be considered perennial favorites on this site. I mean look at the FFX characters. They have gotten popular, but not quite on the level of the FFVII characters. It's really hard to displace the top characters collectively.

I learned that a long time ago on this site when I expected Tommy Vercetti to jump on the scene and be near elite because GTA was so popular. He's lucky he got past Donkey Kong. It takes a lot to be a popular video game character.
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 7:38:03 PM | message detail
Indeed it does. However Vincent's popularity skyrocketed with Advent Children as soon as its mere name was mentioned, I promise you that.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 7:40:12 PM | message detail
Skyrocketed? Nah, I don't buy that.

Then again, I'm probably the only one, but whatever.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
heroic tranny | Posted 6/9/2006 7:40:55 PM | message detail
no, he didn't skyrocket. increased a percent or two maybe, but he definitely didn't soar.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/9/2006 7:41:27 PM | message detail
Am I the only one who's thinking rSFF caused by AC there?
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 6/9/2006 7:42:07 PM | message detail
"The main factor for me in choosing KH over Halo is that Master Chief's improvement between 2k4 and 2k5 was so small."

But look at it this way... what did Halo 2 do to improve MC's character? Nothing. A lot of Halo fans barely register that he exists, so of course he wouldn't get a huge boost from a new game. What did it do to bring in new fans, though? Well, it outsold the first by a lot.

Now the other points made... they're starting to scare me back towards KH. It's a shame, too, because I'm almost tempted to vote for Halo in that match if I keep it (I really can't stand either series for long).
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longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 7:43:15 PM | message detail
The reason I say skyrockted Leonhart, is because after Advent Children trailors had been released and it was announced and all....I **** you not, dozens of people I know who have never even played FF7, started going crazy and writing fanfics about Vincent, cosplaying, the works. This is something I like to call "The Otaku Effect" >_> point being....with so much mainstream exposure to the anime fanbase sub-culture, I believe that in its own right increased FF7's popularity, and the fact that Vincent got a good amount of airtime in AC reinforces that.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/9/2006 7:44:40 PM | message detail
Vincent's last match was like a day or two after AC's Japanese release, though. And he faced Crono to boot. There's no real way to tell anything with what we know now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2006 7:48:13 PM | message detail
Hell, that one point is the difference between 1st place and 3384th. And we don't have a Diablo/Ridley division shocker happening in this contest where picking the wrong character cost you the division. This point is critica!!!!

God, don't remind me.


I feel like making up expected results and then computing x-stats, just to see how completely ridiculous this contest is going to look after Zelda/Metroid, SMB/SSB (or Sonic, if you saw what happened in the Game Contest), and MGS/KH if Snake/Sora is any indicator.

I did last year and probably will again this year. Funny stuff, looking back on it all.


I love Star Ocean, but there's no way it'll break 37% on Pokemon. It's too cult (and yes I know SO2 and SO3 sold 1 million copies each).

Nah, SO should at least break 42.5%, and I think it'll get about 47%.


CJ lost to Ness, that should be evidence enough.

Vercetti beat Donkey Kong and Kefka (with cheating, no less). Plus, Ness is under-rated, but I'm not getting into that right now.


I don't see either side breaking 55% in that match. [Pokemon/SO] should be one of the better matches in the contest.

Hard to disagree with this -- if it's off, it's not off by much.


Vincent : Kerrigan :: Grand Theft Auto : Warcraft

I believe I can concur with this. The only way it's close is if we see more rallying than this site has ever seen...AND undetected cheating.


Diablo also burned them. Of course, people conveniently forget that Diablo 2 is played more on Bnet than Starcraft is.

God, don't remind me.


and the difference between those two matches and Diablo is that Diablo ended up costing what, 15 points? this is a one point match no matter how you look at it.

To play the devil's advocate, if Warcraft can rally enough to beat GTA, I would bet they could garner more when it faces SMB and any other game it might face in the tournament. Thing is though, Warcarft shouldn't get that shot.
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CaptainFlufflez | Posted 6/9/2006 7:49:20 PM | message detail
fools. what you don't realize is that half of the copies of gta in the world are owned by wow players and have been neglected for the past year due to online gaming addiction. if any of you played wow you would understand its potential. it is not to be underestimated. that said, my current bracket still does have gta...
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