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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 288
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| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:28:51 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/sum05_who.php --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:28:58 PM | message detail |
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I have no idea how to stretch write-ups for matches like
Zelda/Civilization without resorting to random dribble. Ah well!
Dribble for all! --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:29:30 PM | message detail |
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Oh, nice find, Leon. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:29:59 PM | message detail |
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Wait a second... what the --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 11:32:17 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/sum05_who.php XD. Kirby's so damn ugly there. Agent 47 is in Dragon Quest? etc. etc. That's awesome. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 11:33:15 PM | message detail |
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I like how Tidus is representing Mega Man. That seems so fitting. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:33:36 PM | message detail |
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It also appears to confirm that Sora will appear in Super Smash Brothers Brawl. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 11:33:52 PM | message detail |
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Street Fighter coincidentally matched up with Chun Li. And Auron with Kingdom Hearts is slightly related too. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:33:52 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/sum05_who.php Mega Man is screwed. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 12:06:31 AM | message detail |
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Let's say, for example, that CJayC does another poll like last year's
Villains Contest where he asks which lower seed you would most like to
see pull the upset...Given these options, rank them in the order you
think they would finish: Star Ocean Devil May Cry Mario Kart Warcraft Street Fighter --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:09:06 AM | message detail |
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Street Fighter > Devil May Cry > Mario Kart > Warcraft >> Star Ocean. That's what I'm seeing there. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/9/2006 12:09:44 AM | message detail |
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Mario Kart Street Fighter Devil May Cry Warcraft Star Ocean --- =DC= Chemistry can be a good and bad thing. Chemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:11:38 AM | message detail |
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So I had a funny thought there... what if one option were to draw over
50% of the vote in one of those? Can you pretty much call the match for
that option? Heh heh. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/9/2006 12:12:29 AM | message detail |
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Star Ocean > > Mario Kart > Street Fighter > Warcraft > Devil May Cry ... Okay, fine. Mario Kart > Street Fighter > Warcraft > Devil May Cry > Star Ocean --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/9/2006 12:18:31 AM | message detail |
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Mario Kart > Street Fighter >> Devil May Cry > WarCraft >> Star Ocean --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| greatone10 | Posted 6/9/2006 12:19:39 AM | message detail |
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what if one option were to draw over 50% of the vote in one of those? Can you pretty much call the match for that option? No, considering that the poll does not reveal vital information like the opponent. Though, it would definitely be something to consider. --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 "I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!" - Manfred von Karma |
| Kaxon | Posted 6/9/2006 12:26:16 AM | message detail |
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There's also no "I don't want any of these games to upset" option, so it wouldn't mean much. Mega Man beat Sonic with 50.37%. Assuming those two series were lined up for a second round meeting, who wins and with what percentage? Personally I'd expect the Mega Man series to beat the Sonic series pretty comfortably. I may be biased, but I think Mega Man's best games are more loved than Sonic's best games, and he has more of them. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 12:29:07 AM | message detail |
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But it's been a while since Mega Man had a meaningful release, for what
it's worth. The 3-D days haven't been the greatest for Sonic, but SA2
was still a pretty popular game. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:29:51 AM | message detail |
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Alright, guys, I can't find any of the other Analysis Crew write ups,
and the ones I really wanted were the ones from the last contest. Any help? --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 12:30:55 AM | message detail |
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Didn't NGamer post a link to his site with all of the stat topics
archived on it in the last topic? They would be there, for sure, though
they would be really spread out. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:32:44 AM | message detail |
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though they would be really spread out. My problem exactly. Eh, beggars can't be choosers. I'll do it the hard way. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| greatone10 | Posted 6/9/2006 12:33:54 AM | message detail |
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*throws Pokeball at Zero* --- RIP Eddie Guerrero 1967-2005 "I set my ATM card's number to "0001" because I'm number one!" - Manfred von Karma |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 12:36:47 AM | message detail |
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I love how at the beginning of this topic everyone was like "wtf dis
bracket sux" and now everyones all like "OMG MEGA MAN VS MARIO KART IS
SOOOOO HARSH :O" <_< --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:37:31 AM | message detail |
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Eyagh, I can't find that either. Perhaps it was actually 2 topics ago? Regardless, anyone have a link to that site in question? Now I just feel like reading them... for the sake of reading them. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 12:39:30 AM | message detail |
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But it's been a while since Mega Man had a meaningful release, for what it's worth. You don't call the MM and MMX collections meaningful :O --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 12:42:22 AM | message detail |
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I wouldn't call them meaningless, but Sonic had a similar collection of his own, and I believe it sold better. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/9/2006 12:46:52 AM | message detail |
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Didn't NGamer post a link to his site with all of the stat topics
archived on it in the last topic? They would be there, for sure, though
they would be really spread out. http://thengamer.com/stats I'll upload Parts 283-287 some time in the near future. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Lopen | Posted 6/9/2006 12:48:54 AM | message detail |
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Curses! It's right there too! I sorta just wrote that off as an alias for the LOL X-Stats thing. Thanks, TRE. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/9/2006 1:04:12 AM | message detail |
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I was looking around for something for my Star Ocean/Pokemon analysis, and I ran across sales figures for the entire Star Ocean franchise, for those who may be curious ... 1.) Star Ocean (SNES) Japan -- 235,000 America -- N/A Total: 235,000 2.) Star Ocean : The Second Story (PSX) Japan -- 724,000 America -- 370,000 Total: 1.09 million 3.) Star Ocean : Blue Sphere (GBC) Japan -- 130,000 America -- N/A Total: 130,000 4.) Star Ocean 3 : Till the End of Time (PS2) Japan -- 478,000 America -- 630,000 [This is a more accurate number according to NPD's recently released] Total: 1.10 million 5.) Star Ocean 3 : Till the End of Time - Director's Cut (PS2) Japan -- 164,000 Total: 164,000 (http://www.tri-ace.com/en/company/sales.html) Now, it's certainly true that Pokemon slaughters the sales of pretty much everything not named Mario, but I just wanted to throw this out there for those who think Star Ocean is somehow really obscure or cult or whatever. Considering every game that released over here broke the 300,000 mark (which is basically just two games, but two of the most important games; Star Ocean on the SNES would have had to gotten downloaded through ROM for people to play it here) it's not anything that labels it as obscure. Sure, it's not a Final Fantasy, but RPGs over here have a hard time selling over a million if they aren't named Final Fantasy. Also pretty notable is the fact that sales of Star Ocean 3, in particular, are pretty impressive given that it released on a RPG dominated platform. But yeah, I hope no one thinks it's on par with something likes Skies of Arcadia or Suikoden or whatever that someone compared it to. << --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/9/2006 1:07:17 AM | message detail |
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Hmm... I didn't know two of SO's four games never even made it to the
US. I can't see a series like Star Ocean taking out Pokemon with only
one main game. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2006 1:08:11 AM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1453 Let me add to Silent Hill's pain: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=775 It's also probably worth noting that pyramid head barely ranked above luca ****ing blgiht in the 2k5 spring contest. In that case, it's also probably worth noting that Diablo had linkage in his match against Kefka but not against Ganon, thus, making Kefka and his four-pack (which includes Luca) over-rated. Glancing at the bracket again, Halo has a 6-seed...since considering the boards ruled the nomination process, this doesn't surprise me. Compare this to Halo being #9 and Halo 2 being one of the two successful write-ins at #85, and you can tell that those who tend to like Halo rreeaallllyy like Halo. This also fits in good with the general inconsistancy of MC in contest matches -- it really does seem to keep him from being blown out in any situation. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 1:08:18 AM | message detail |
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There was only one Xenogears, and it won handily... --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/9/2006 1:09:50 AM | message detail |
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Err, most people don't even know about Blue Sphere. It's not what I
would call a "main game" at all. It mainly lacks Star Ocean, which has
the benefit of emulation at this point, but still isn't something I
took into account when I figured Star Ocean beating Pokemon. It was
mainly due to Star Ocean 2 and Star Ocean 3, which is what did
make it over here and both sold quite well. And, again, it's not like
Pokemon is any type of powerhouse. Xenogears sold worse and it beat
Pokemon G/S/C. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/9/2006 1:10:46 AM | message detail |
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I would also think Xenogears is bigger than the SO series, as would I think the Pokemon series is bigger than Pokemon G/S/C. You can't just count out the power of Pokemon Snap like that, dammit. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 1:11:49 AM | message detail |
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Xenogears bigger than Star Ocean? Not by a wide margin, if at all. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/9/2006 1:13:28 AM | message detail |
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I would also think Xenogears is bigger than the SO series I disagree there. If Star Ocean 3 went up against Xenogears, even accounting for potential FFVII SFF, I would take Star Ocean 3 to beat it. It's a bigger series than people give credit for, and I can't help but think that some people unfamiliar with either wouldn't be thinking Xenogears was bigger if it hadn't beat Pokemon. I'm not trying to downplay Xenogears' popularity, but Star Ocean isn't lacking in it either, like some people want to believe. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/9/2006 1:13:43 AM | message detail |
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Yea, Xenogears seems like it would beat Star Ocean easily. Despite less
than stellar sales, it's a pretty recognizable name in the gaming
world. Hell, even I have known about Xenogears for years. Now if that isn't directly related to contest strength, I just don't know what is. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 1:15:32 AM | message detail |
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You must also take into account that Star Ocean: Till The End of Time
is done by Square Enix, however Star Ocean: The Second Story was only
done by Tri-Ace and Enix...as trivial as that may seem, it could affect
the game's overall sales. You never once saw a Star Ocean Second Story
commercial, however Till The End Of Time was advertised pretty well.
Then again, Xenogears wasn't exactly advertised that much either, but
there were a few demos of it in stuff like Brave Fencer Musashi which
also came with an FF8 demo, so yeah. Just bits of trivial information
here...<_< --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/9/2006 1:20:06 AM | message detail |
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Xenogears > Entire SO series. --- =DC= Chemistry can be a good and bad thing. Chemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. |
| ESY16 | Posted 6/9/2006 1:24:33 AM | message detail |
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I don't know...I just can't buy into SO beating Xenogears. It wouldn't
be a blowout, but Xenogears would win without too much trouble. That being said, I also don't buy the Pokemon Series being that much more popular than G/S/C. Sure there are more games in the series, and they have sold well, but I don't think that the fanbase would be that much bigger. You are either a fan of the series or not, the games aren't generally that much different in concept IIRC, so I don't see a large increase in fanbase. Sure it may be more popular, but not by much. Anyway, I figure Pokemon > SO to be a fairly safe choice. --- If you build a man a fire, he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 1:28:42 AM | message detail |
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Pokemon will pull it through barely, I believe. --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/9/2006 1:30:46 AM | message detail |
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Glancing at the bracket again, Halo has a 6-seed...since considering
the boards ruled the nomination process, this doesn't surprise me. Actually it's pretty surprizing that Halo is here at all. Based on Lucid Faia's topic, 54 series had more nominations than Halo. It's seems likely that it got in because CJayC decided to intervene. --- "Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..." "All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..." |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/9/2006 1:30:53 AM | message detail |
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I'm now having second thoughts on my Pokemon > SO pick. I hate Pokemon so that might be why. DIE POKEMON DIE. --- =DC= Chemistry can be a good and bad thing. Chemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. |
| Ayvuir | Posted 6/9/2006 1:32:26 AM | message detail |
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No way, people will realise the awesomeness of the Pokemon series back
in the day, and will therefore vote for it. It will beat Star Ocean,
and i even think it has a solid chance against Metroid --- How can you be religious? The Bible says that a boat was made big enough to hold two of every species on the planet! - MYC |
| Ayvuir | Posted 6/9/2006 1:33:17 AM | message detail |
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Also do people have Super Smash Bros beating Dragon Quest yeh? Do you
have it going further too, cos i'm really not sure how strong it will
be, despite its seeding --- How can you be religious? The Bible says that a boat was made big enough to hold two of every species on the planet! - MYC |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 1:35:35 AM | message detail |
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Well, even though the nominations never went to the front page, I doubt
only Board 8 nominated, and it's not like everyone on Board 8 put their
nomination list in that topic. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/9/2006 1:38:11 AM | message detail |
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This doesn't seem like it's going to get anywhere until the actual
match. Anyway, I just wanted to bring that up for those curious on how
well it actually sold -- and because we need to drop the whole "Star
Ocean is obscure and no one has heard of it!" bit. You must also take into account that Star Ocean: Till The End of Time is done by Square Enix, however Star Ocean: The Second Story was only done by Tri-Ace and Enix...as trivial as that may seem, it could affect the game's overall sales. Well, it's true that Square RPGs sell more than usual, though Xenogears would be proof that you cannot sell entirely on the fact that you come from Square. Still, one cannot take away from what sales Star Ocean 2 did make up here in America, which were pretty good. Xenogears > Entire SO series. Pfft~! Get those filthy lies out of here. I don't know...I just can't buy into SO beating Xenogears. It wouldn't be a blowout, but Xenogears would win without too much trouble. This would very likely be true if we were talking about Star Ocean 2, but I don't think Star Ocean 3 loses to Xenogears. If it did, I don't think Xenogears is going to do so without much trouble. It would have to fight to come away with that one. I initially figured that SO3 would win without trouble, but then Realm brought up the FFVII/Xenogears SFF, which would change some things. That being said, I also don't buy the Pokemon Series being that much more popular than G/S/C. Sure there are more games in the series, and they have sold well, but I don't think that the fanbase would be that much bigger. You are either a fan of the series or not, the games aren't generally that much different in concept IIRC, so I don't see a large increase in fanbase. Sure it may be more popular, but not by much. I would agree with everything you said here. It's hard for me to imagine someone being a fan of only one particular set in the series and hating the rest. If you liked one game, you probably liked the majority of them. I didn't want to get eaten alive by the local Pokemon freak (Hiya, Slow! =p) but if you have played one of them, you probably have basically gotten the idea behind all of them. Sure, there are things like breeding, double team, more Pokemon, and all that jazz, but they're not drastically different in concept. That said, I could see it being a little more popular than where G/S/C ended up (G/S/C might be a little lower than usual if you factor in SFF) if only because R/B/Y were the big popular ones of the series. Still, Xenogears would have still beaten Pokemon if it was R/B/Y without any trouble either, even if it were closer. --- "Princess, there's no need for worry. Who do you think I am? I'm the hero of the story. And the hero never dies." |
| Uwe Boll | Posted 6/9/2006 1:39:43 AM | message detail |
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We have no joke entry. This saddens me. I would have liked to see Leisure Suit Larry in there. --- Watch out! It's the THRILLER! OW! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/9/2006 1:40:22 AM | message detail |
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What do you mean, no joke entry? Did you not see who Super Mario Brothers is facing? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/9/2006 1:40:28 AM | message detail |
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Madden is practically a joke entry --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |