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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 288

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Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:34:40 PM | message detail
The BOP begins!

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28564011
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 9:34:44 PM | message detail
I thought it was ok. It was surprisingly faithful to the games, which had me pleased.
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
cyko | Posted 6/8/2006 9:35:43 PM | message detail

I think people were already getting crazy by thinking Agent 47 would be Neo-Tanner. There was a rather large difference between the two. Though it's notable that was before Kingdom Hearts II was out, which is considerably different from Kingdom Hearts in a number of ways -- "kiddie" included.


exactly. not only that, but Agent 47 looked WAY cooler than Tanner. as a matter of fact, the new Hitman game is selling very well.. but since then, Sora has gotten another new game to revise his freshness and less-kiddie image.

plus, even if Harvest Moon isn't a traditional RPG, half of the games in the series are classified as RPGs on GameFAQS (the other half as strategy) and it is a series that is found on RPGamer - a site that is exclusively for different types of RPGs. even if it's not as traditional as KH - Harvest Moon has a lot more in common with KH and much more of an overlapping fanbase than Civilization does with Zelda or Madden does with Mario.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 9:35:54 PM | message detail
It's also probably worth noting that pyramid head barely ranked above luca ****ing blgiht in the 2k5 spring contest.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 9:38:31 PM | message detail
I thought it was ok. It was surprisingly faithful to the games, which had me pleased.

At the very least we can be grateful that Uwe Boll didn't direct it.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 9:38:44 PM | message detail
You know, I acknowledge the fact that Mega Man has built a strong franchise and overall name over the years, which is why I think he is such a popular character. But I really don't think his games are all that popular. I certainly think Mario Kart matches it in popularity, and the series has killed the Mega Man series as far as sales for its individual games.

In recent years, Mega Man really hasn't done anything really significant. Sure you have the Zero series, which was taken well. You have the EXE series, which sold a bit. But they don't compare to sales of the last 3 Mario Kart games. Sure, Mario Kart may be a side series, but it's a side series that has every game selling at least 4 million, with the most popular approaching 10 million. Not even bringing in sales, as games I don't see anything to suggest that Mario Kart isn't as popular as Mega Man.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:38:54 PM | message detail
So, am I way off on some of my picks?
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:39:17 PM | message detail
Oh, and I think MK will barely edge it out over MM, just so you know.
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 9:40:32 PM | message detail
plus, even if Harvest Moon isn't a traditional RPG, half of the games in the series are classified as RPGs on GameFAQS (the other half as strategy) and it is a series that is found on RPGamer - a site that is exclusively for different types of RPGs. even if it's not as traditional as KH - Harvest Moon has a lot more in common with KH and much more of an overlapping fanbase than Civilization does with Zelda or Madden does with Mario.

Actually I'd say it as more in common with sim games if anythuing. It isn't really much like a sim game though since you don't have to upkeep useless crap like taking a dump, eating, showering, etc.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:42:19 PM | message detail
Oh, and BTW, NO FREAKIN' CHRONO?!? Dang, that duck Chrono Cross has... now that's what I call a duck!
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
LordOfDabu | Posted 6/8/2006 9:44:03 PM | message detail
I think the largest blow out will be X > Suikoden, especially since the blue bomber has a history of blowing out weak opponents.

I really want to know what the pictures will be like.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 9:44:59 PM | message detail
I think it's because when most people think game series, things like kotor and chrono don't generally pop into their heads as actually being series even though they are.
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{WoT}~> Board 408
dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 9:46:28 PM | message detail
I think the largest blow out will be X > Suikoden, especially since the blue bomber has a history of blowing out weak opponents.

I think suikoden has enough of a cult following to avoid being humiliated quite that badly... although it's going to be brutal.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 9:47:25 PM | message detail
Chrono definitely had the noms. I think Ceej purposely kept it out, which I think is whack as he specifically had FF/FFT as separate series. And even if it is basically Chrono Trigger, we would have at least seen how a single popular game vs. series fared. That was one of the most debated things going into this contest.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 6/8/2006 9:49:53 PM | message detail
"I think it's because when most people think game series, things like kotor and chrono don't generally pop into their heads as actually being series even though they are."

I'd normally believe this, but since the nominations were kept almost exclusively to Board 8 (although they were linked on a few other boards) I doubt this is the case. Maybe not though.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:49:58 PM | message detail
Strangely enough, I realized this when I was looking how far Mario and Chrono were from each other. This is our first contest ever without a Mario/Crono encounter, folks.

Well, I'm off to bed... BOP tallying is going to burn a lot of my time tomorrow.
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
Ed Bellis | Posted 6/8/2006 9:51:28 PM | message detail
This is our first contest ever without a Mario/Crono encounter, folks.

...woah. Kinda sad, really.

...well, excluding the villains contest.

Bowser vs. Lavos?!?
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Ed Bellis | Posted 6/8/2006 9:51:49 PM | message detail
I totally would've laughed if Ceej would have tried to set that match up, btw.
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This was Ed Bellis. Summer 2005 Fanfiction Project:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28403845
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/8/2006 9:53:14 PM | message detail
Dammit...the comparisons between MM, Sonic, MK, and SSB have forced me to switch to having Sonic over SSB. And I was so hoping that I wouldn't be a cookie.
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Slowflake | Posted 6/8/2006 9:53:20 PM | message detail
Oh, ****. Completely forgot about the villains contest. That's how forgettable it was.
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i beaten a lot of people in school in a battle. some are noobs like you some are pretty good. i have a perfect record of not loosing. -pika4
transience | Posted 6/8/2006 9:57:17 PM | message detail
Why do people put Mario Kart as a side series hurting it. Side series or not, it has shown to be just as popular as the Mega Man series. I don't see people writing off Super Smash Bros. as a side series. I think it's pretty irrelevant unless it was going up directly against Super Mario Bros. or something.

doesn't hurt it at all - I just don't think it's going to SFF Mega Man. I'm just saying not to treat Mario Kart as if it's got the same SFF ability as regular ol' Mario.

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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 10:01:46 PM | message detail
I don't think I ever said anything about it SFFing Mega Man. I think the Mario Kart series is as popular as the Mega Man series by itself.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC
Water Sitar | Posted 6/8/2006 10:06:15 PM | message detail
My bracket

Legend of Zelda
Mega Man X
Pokemon
Metroid


Metal Gear
Fire Emblem
Halo
Kingdom Hearts


Super Mario Bros.
GTA
Sonic
Super Smash Bros.


Final Fantasy
Mario Kart
Street Fighter
Resident Evil

Round 2
Legend of Zelda
Metroid

Metal Gear
Kingdom Hearts

Super Mario
Super Smash

Final Fantasy
Resident Evil

Round 3
Legend of Zelda
Kingdom Hearts

Super Smash
Final Fantasy

Finals
Zelda> Final Fantasy

Thoughts, mistakes, suggestions?
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 10:10:34 PM | message detail
Zelda> Final Fantasy

The worst mistake you could make!

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LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 10:13:47 PM | message detail
He easily dominates Solid Snake year after year.

Mega Man was easily above Snake in 2004. That's about it. Every other year, he wasn't THAT far ahead, really.

And thanks to whoever mentioned the Analysis Crew! Heh, it's been so long I had forgotten I was on it.

And Parasite Eve had a Xenogears demo? Really? I've owned the game for years and I didn't know that. Granted, I never even tried to demo disc, but still.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 10:15:41 PM | message detail
Also, did anyone else enter every alt they had for this contest?

I'm getting that perfect bracket, no matter what it takes!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 10:22:59 PM | message detail
My road to being a Square-head:

Playstation -> FFVII Demo
FFVII led me to try Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve - Xenogears Demo
Xenogears -> Heard about Brave Fencer Musashi
Brave Fencer Musashi -> Final Fantasy VIII demo
FFVIII

Then I kept going and ended up buying Final Fantasy Anthology, Final Fantasy Chronicles, Parasite Eve 2, Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy IX, Chrono Chross, and finally Threads of Fate. Huzzah!
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 6/8/2006 10:25:04 PM | message detail
Namesake alone.


The words "Final Fantasy", when inclusive of ALL Final Fantasy is near unstoppable to LoZ.


Funny, how everyone complains that Cloud should win the character contest over Link, because he has more personality, but Link wins versus how more of the board wanted OoT (I think) but FF7 won.


Anyhoo, I think this contest is people voting for their fav of the series.

I mean, you're not gonna sit down and count all the FFs and say "Ok, 1, 4, 6, 7, and 10 rock. 2, 5, and 9 suck. 8 is meh. FFX2 is bad. FFT is sorta in, hmm. I'll consider it. Oh crap, what about the Game Boy FF's. They...." etc.
You're gonna take your fav one or two FFs
(or maybe you'll be more systematic if you are meh to FF, but not really).

You won't do the same for LoZ or SMB or ESPECIALLY not Mega Man, since we've all been down that road of "what Mega Man games should be in the contest?" and back.

Now, besides OoT, Zelda MAY have LttP. But FF7 ALONE could beat the combination of every single game ever, so why does it matter?

I doubt we'll see bad, meh, or so-so games in the series detract from the series popularity (except DMC, maybe), so this looks like FF7 as the winner to me.

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transience | Posted 6/8/2006 10:26:38 PM | message detail
my road to being a Squarehead was buying FF1 after Nintendo Power said it kicked ass! I bought a PS1 for Xenogears though, no need to go through PE or FF7.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 10:30:38 PM | message detail
my road to being a Squarehead was buying FF1 after Nintendo Power said it kicked ass! I bought a PS1 for Xenogears though, no need to go through PE or FF7.

Well of course! I got FF after getting that nice red FF strategy guide from Nintendo power with the traditional Fighter/Black Belt/White Mage/Black Mage party with weird names like BORS, JED, LEE, and TOTH!

But it definitely didn't make me loyal to the company. Company loyalty didn't exist on the NES for me, and for much of the SNES as well. The PS era was when I really started to buy anything Square. It's the first time I really did that for a company other than Nintendo.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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metroid composite | Posted 6/8/2006 10:37:40 PM | message detail
But FF7 ALONE could beat the combination of every single game ever, so why does it matter?

We already had that poll--FF7 only got 28%.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1664
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outback | Posted 6/8/2006 10:38:13 PM | message detail
I was a Squarehead after SMRPG and FFVI, and then I played FFVII. Let's just say the key word in that first sentence is "was."
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Tiedus | Posted 6/8/2006 10:47:03 PM | message detail
my road to being a Squarehead was buying FF1 after Nintendo Power said it kicked ass!

It was under different circumstances, but FF1 was indeed the start of that mess! <3

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transience | Posted 6/8/2006 10:49:10 PM | message detail
FF1 is just about my favourite game, so I was hooked then. but yeah, I wasn't a company loyalist until the PS era. back then I was just a FF loyalist.

of course, now I'm not very loyal to Square at all. huzzah, obscure RPG companies!
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transience | Posted 6/8/2006 10:50:24 PM | message detail
(speaking of which - it's going to suck watching Shadow Hearts get tripled up. I thought getting sextupled by Samus was bad enough... not that I mind since I love Metroid, but still.)

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Tiedus | Posted 6/8/2006 10:55:39 PM | message detail
Shadow Hearts in over Chrono still hurts!!

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transience | Posted 6/8/2006 10:56:34 PM | message detail
I agree. I nommed both, too. I'm absolutely convinced that Chrono was held out for some odd reason. there's no way it didn't get enough nominations but Madden did... when board 8 was the only one nominating.
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 10:58:55 PM | message detail
I dunno about you guys, but I'd feel pretty disappointed if the first perfect bracket ever was nabbed with an alt.
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:00:25 PM | message detail
I'll feel disappointed, too...

...If it's not my alt.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
transience | Posted 6/8/2006 11:04:16 PM | message detail
TRE posted this earlier today. I'm gonna add in their seeds.

Nominations are now closed with no link on the front page at all. This will be an intersting bracket if CJayC goes strictly by noms. For reference the results from Lucid Faia's "Post your nominations here." topic before it purged.

Top 32
1 - Final Fantasy 52
1 - Super Mario Bros 51
1 - The Legend of Zelda 46
3 - Castlevania 42
1 - Metal Gear Solid 38
3 - Pokemon 33
2 - Kingdom Hearts 33
2 - Super Smash Bros 31
3 - Sonic the Hedgehog 31
2 - Resident Evil 29
2 - Metroid 27
7 - Dragon Quest 27
5 - Mega Man X 26
4 - Fire Emblem 26
5 - Super Mario Kart 26
4 - Mega Man (original) 22
6 - Street Fighter 23
5 - Warcraft 22
??? Chrono 21
Tales Of 20
6 - Star Ocean 20
Donkey Kong Country 19
7 - Harvest Moon 19
Katamari Damacy 19
4 - Suikoden 18
Monkey Island 18
4 - Grand Theft Auto 17
Mana / Seiken Densetsu 17
5 - Silent Hill 16
Guilty Gear 15
8 - Diablo 15
7 - Kirby 15

Next 36
8 - Soul Calibur 14
3 - Elder Scrolls 14
8 - Civilization 12
Prince of Persia 12
King of fighters 12
Breath of Fire 11
6 - Devil May Cry 11
Star Fox 11
Phantasy Star 11
Metal Slug 11
Ninja Gaiden 11
Mother/Earthbound 10
Half-Life 10
Streets of Rage 10
Lunar 10
Mortal Kombat 10
Advance Wars 9
Grandia 9
8 - Madden NFL 9
Dance Dance Revolution 9
Star Wars: KOTOR 9
Fallout 9
F-Zero 8
Heroes of Might and Magic 8
Age of Empires 8
Gyakuten Saiban (Phoenix Wright) 8
Baldur's Gate 8
6 - HALO 8
7 - Shadow Hearts 8
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 8
Leisure Suit Larry 7
Warioware 7
Megaman Zero 7
Doom 7
Xenosaga 7
Banjo-Kazooie 7
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:06:52 PM | message detail
Mega Man beat Sonic with 50.37%. Assuming those two series were lined up for a second round meeting, who wins and with what percentage?
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:08:17 PM | message detail
I'd take Sonic, but I think it'd be close. Neither wins with more than 53% there.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:14:12 PM | message detail
Hmmm...I'm only three matches in on Analysis Crew write-ups, but I've already realized that this contest, at least in this area, is WIDE OPEN. With no statistics to refer to whatsoever, percentages are pretty much guesses. Should be interesting to see who wins this one.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 11:17:19 PM | message detail
Is there an easy place to see all the old Analysis Crew Write Ups? (No I'm not gonna be copying them, I just want to see them!)

On that note, I'm still a bit confused on this analysis crew thing. We send them to Moltar, right? What's his email address? What's the format? WHAT?
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 11:18:23 PM | message detail
I just remembered what happened during last year's Spring Contest. After Sephiroth beat Ganondorf, there was a 24-WAY TIE FOR FIRST PLACE. If you want to win a prize, the most important decision is the one that receives the least attention.
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Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right.
Dilated Chemist | Posted 6/8/2006 11:18:31 PM | message detail
Mega Man series > Sonic series, 51-49.

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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 11:21:46 PM | message detail
Never mind, I found the analyses... though the other questions stand!
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244
LeonhartForever | Posted 6/8/2006 11:22:18 PM | message detail
Yes, I need Moltar to come in and tell us where to send these Analyses right about...

NOW!
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 11:22:56 PM | message detail
Hey, Crazy Man Who Is Considering DMC Over Sonic, where did you find those?

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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 11:27:57 PM | message detail
Well I've actually only found the Summer 2004 ones

http://sc2k4.com/links.php

I was assuming the others would be in some of the other links in the first post. But I haven't found em yet.
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Raiden is still [!!] nominations short!
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244