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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 6:26:36 PM | message detail
whereas SO3 was popular despite being an RPG infested platform

Popular in what sense? I wouldn't call it or ToS exceedingly popular, but whatever.
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 6:27:16 PM | message detail
And the debate over Sonic/Smash Bros. is absolutely baffling.

*looks at 2004 X-stats(

*Sonic 2: #33
Super Smash Bros. Melee: #6*

*looks at the Top 10 from last year*

*SSBM: #6
Sonic: nowhere in sight*

The debate is over.
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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 6:27:58 PM | message detail
DMC vs Sonic is where the debate should be! It's true!
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/8/2006 6:31:09 PM | message detail

I don't think they needed to be confused so much as lightly apathetic. You want to nominate the Mario series, so you nominate the first thing that comes to your mind- Super Mario Bros. To me, that represents all of Mario, including through today. I highly doubt the voters will ignore his other, newer games and just vote for those older ones.


I agree completely, I was just poking fun at yoblazer talking about MM.

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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 6:31:32 PM | message detail
People seem to think Sonic will win because it has an entire series behind it. I don't think it works out quite like that.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 6/8/2006 6:31:33 PM | message detail
And just by going through the bracket super quick, I think people are being needlessly harsh on it. Difficult (or at least sort of interesting) matches include:
Pokemon/Star Ocean
Metroid/Kirby
Fire Emblem/Silent Hill
Halo/Castlevania
Warcraft/Grand Theft Auto (this one I'm actually confused about. Is warcraft not nearly as well regarded as Starcraft? Because from what I saw, people were siding with gta, easily)
Megaman/ Mario Kart
Street Fighter/The Elder Scrolls - I wouldn't overlook this match too much. Oblivion has been selling really well and its faq presence has been consistently strong.

That's seven for the first round, based on who wins that leaves:
Pokemon/Metroid - Yeah, pokemon is "hated" here, but what about evaluating it as a series?
Kingdom Hearts/Halo - Halo did better on Starcraft, no? But, both had huge sequels between then and now, one's a bit more recent, so I'm staying with KH2.
Sonic/Super Smash Bros - Difficult, difficult, difficult.
Street Fighter/Resident Evil

Four from that round, leaving:
Metal Gear/Kingdom Hearts/Halo - We have Snake/Sora, but also some xstats from the games contest, and those are both before KH2.
Super Mario Bros/Super Smash Bros- Okay, wishful thinking.

leaving really just the inevitable big three clash.

That seems like enough to me. All this perfect bracket talk isn't going to fall through; it never does. This bracket is okay, I think it has enough matches to keep the contest interesting.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 6/8/2006 6:32:39 PM | message detail
Yaaay, Star Ocean's gonna win totally!
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 6:32:46 PM | message detail
Street Fighter/The Elder Scrolls - I wouldn't overlook this match too much. Oblivion has been selling really well and its faq presence has been consistently strong.

Don't forget about Street Fighter Alpha Anthology coming out this month, yo. <.<
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 6:33:14 PM | message detail
Popular in what sense? I wouldn't call it or ToS exceedingly popular, but whatever.

Just as a whole. Again, it nor the franchise as a whole are huge, but by no means is it obscure. It got plenty of advertisement, it sold about 600,000 copies (which was like God of War levels before the price drop), and got a ton of high scores from reviewers. Not that I'm using it for strength in a contest, but it did really well on the Top FAQ thing too. So yeah, it's not a massively popular game, but it can hold its own. Star Ocean 2 was a fairly popular RPG on the PSX while we're at it, though not nearly as much.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 6:34:26 PM | message detail
Don't forget about Street Fighter Alpha Anthology coming out this month, yo.

Better believe it!!

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AmazingKirby | Posted 6/8/2006 6:36:11 PM | message detail
Don't forget the 3 votes Star Ocean will get for the Japanese version of Star Ocean for SNES.
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Saxophoninator | Posted 6/8/2006 6:36:38 PM | message detail
I originally saw Pokemon vs. Star Ocean and thought Star Ocean sue to anti-votes.

Then I remembered that a lot of people have heard of Pokemon and not a lot of people have heard of Star Ocean.

Pokemon wins.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 6:37:46 PM | message detail
People seem to think Sonic will win because it has an entire series behind it. I don't think it works out quite like that.

For something really popular franchises, I don't think it's going to be "Strongest Game v. Strongest Game." I don't know why people wouldn't take into consideration the entire series considering what type of contest we're having here. Sonic 3, Sonic 2, Sonic Adventure, Sonic CD, Sonic Adventure 2 against SSBM and SSB? I'd vote Sonic every time, sir~!

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FastFalcon05 | Posted 6/8/2006 6:38:19 PM | message detail
I agree completely, I was just poking fun at yoblazer talking about MM.

oh, ok.

anyone else surprised that megaman has two series in this contest, while crono has none?
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/8/2006 6:38:41 PM | message detail
That was my thinking for Pokemon vs. Xenogears, and we saw how that ended up.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 6:40:12 PM | message detail
Not really, because when you think of game series, "chrono" doesn't generally come to mind as a definite series even though it does count as one.
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 6:40:24 PM | message detail
Pokemon vs. Star Ocean shouldn't even be a debate, really. Star Ocean is cult and no one outside of the RPG nerd community has ever heard of it. I mean, Pikachu did beat Parappa the Rapper, so antivotes can only factor in so much. And besides, Pokemon as a whole is not as hated as much as Pikachu itself is.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 6:44:37 PM | message detail
Yeah. And people outside of this "RPG nerd community" have heard of Xenogears and not Star Ocean, right? Pfft. Star Ocean is a lot more popular than people are giving credit for. It's not obscure. That's something like Suikoden. While I'm at it, this website essentially is that community you're talking about.

And Pikachu beating Parappa the Rapper is something that should always happen, anti-votes or not.

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Shadowdude II | Posted 6/8/2006 6:45:25 PM | message detail
*changes to FE over SH*
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greatone10 | Posted 6/8/2006 6:45:37 PM | message detail
Fact: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

I predict that this match will mirror Poke/Xeno despite any difference in strength between Xeno and SO.

Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

Metroid will face Star Ocean, and Kirby will not self destruct against Metroid.

Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

It could happen, but I think Metroid will evade a beating that bad.

Fact: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Civilization, MMX, and Metroid do not stand a chance.

Fact: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

The only match that stands in its way is Poke/Xeno Part II.

Fact: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

The only other hard to call matches are SFF affairs (Mega/Kart) and apathy matches (FE/SH, Poke/SO)

Fiction: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

Sonic vs. SSB will be the match of the second round.

Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

The favorite of the opposing four pack is Kingdom Hearts, and we saw what Snake did to Sora.

Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Madden will use its mainstream recognition to stay out of the 90% range.

Fiction: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

People may underestimate GTA due to its lukewarm contest matches, but the games are much stronger than the characters.

Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Castlevania/KH/Halo will be more split due to the fact that there are three contendors instead of two.

Fact: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

I don't think it will happen, but it could.

Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

The Elder Scrolls has no chance. Xbox360s are not widespread enough to allow Elder Scrolls to beat a very strong series like Street Fighter.

Fact or Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Capcom SSF will be very minor, in that there are not so many diehards of the company itself, but plenty of hardcores of their individual series.

Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

What did I just say about the series that Oblivion is from?

Fact: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.

The contest is going on during the best time for vote totals, so why not?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/8/2006 6:46:03 PM | message detail
Just as a whole. Again, it nor the franchise as a whole are huge, but by no means is it obscure. It got plenty of advertisement, it sold about 600,000 copies (which was like God of War levels before the price drop), and got a ton of high scores from reviewers.

Sounds like the Lunar series, except maybe the advertising bit. And I should remember, I was on the losing side of that debate (and I used pretty much the same reasons that you are). I'm not making the same mistake twice.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 6:47:31 PM | message detail
Not to veer too far off topic, but since you seem to know a lot about game sales HM, do you have any idea how many copies the elders scrolls IV:oblivion has sold so far? All I know is somewhere between a week to three weeks after its release, bethesda (makers of the the TES series in case someone doesn't know) announced that between PC and 360 it had sold something like 1.7 million copies (maybe 1.3 million, I'm not quite sure), and that in it's first week on the market it's sales took a whole quarter of the pc game market.
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Xuxon | Posted 6/8/2006 6:49:31 PM | message detail
Anyone else unsure about where to place SMB? The obvious choice is losing to FF, but I could see it losing to SSB or even beating FF. I have it losing to SSB for now.
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 6:50:52 PM | message detail
Yeah. And people outside of this "RPG nerd community" have heard of Xenogears and not Star Ocean, right? Pfft. Star Ocean is a lot more popular than people are giving credit for. It's not obscure. That's something like Suikoden. While I'm at it, this website essentially is that community you're talking about.

...And no one outside of the RPG nerd community has ever heard of Suikoden, either. Hence why it performs like **** in these contests.

Xenogears is considerably more popular than SO or Suikoden.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 6:50:57 PM | message detail
I have SMB losing to FF. It seemed like an obvious choice to me, although SSB should put up a decent fight.
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DomaDragoon | Posted 6/8/2006 6:53:43 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

Fact. Whether it wins or not is irrelevant, the chance of victory is still there.

Fact or Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

Fiction, solely because there won't be SFF going up against Pokemon, if it does.

Fact or Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

If the match happens, fact.

Fact or Fiction: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

Fact, most likely.

Fact or Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

Fiction - I think it's MK/Mega.

Fact or Fiction: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

Fact, and you know Ceej set it up on purpose...

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

Fiction, assuming that MGS is considered.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Fiction, blame the Spotters if nothing else. >_>

Fact or Fiction: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

Fact. It probably won't, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that it will.

Fact or Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Fiction, though for the life of me I can't think of what would be more divisive.

Fact or Fiction: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

Fiction, if only because I don't think it would be an upset on either side.

Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fiction. I mean, come on - only a Chuck Norris pic could save the day.

Fact or Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Fact, but who cares?

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

FICTION.

Fact or Fiction: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.

Eh, coin-flip. Let's just say fact for the heck of it.
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Shivan Reincarnated | Posted 6/8/2006 6:54:55 PM | message detail
GTA/Warcraft is the hardest match for me
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 6:55:32 PM | message detail
Wait, wait, Mega Man is the favorite to beat Mario Kart? Are you people ****ing kidding? MK will win that match without breaking a sweat.
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/8/2006 6:56:40 PM | message detail
Phediuk please stop coming across as a troll.

Anyone else unsure about where to place SMB? The obvious choice is losing to FF, but I could see it losing to SSB or even beating FF. I have it losing to SSB for now.

Put it this way... you could see SMB possibly beating out FF, right? Well SSB beat FFX with not even 51% of the vote, and this was the picture in the match (http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=55) if that's the most ridiculous I've ever seen, I don't know what is. So if you honestly think SMB could put up a fight with FF, there's no chance in hell it's going lose to SSB.

Anyway, I think you're crazy to think SSB has a shot against SMB, and that SMB has a shot against FF. SMB has one of the most predictable paths in the contest.

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ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/8/2006 6:57:42 PM | message detail
Okay, now I'm just going to say it.

Phediuk, get the hell out of our stats topic.
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 6:58:31 PM | message detail
Yes, I'm a troll because I predict obvious matches correctly. Forgive me.

And yeah, I really don't think SSB stands a chance in hell against SMB. Remember what Mario did to Samus?
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/8/2006 6:59:19 PM | message detail
No, because you're being a complete jackass. But whatever, I'm going to drop it because I don't want to fill this topic up with bickering.

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Shadowdude II | Posted 6/8/2006 7:01:42 PM | message detail
Fact: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

Kirby don't take SFF, yo!

Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

Fact: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Fiction: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

Fact: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Fact: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Fact: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

Fiction: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.
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Xuxon | Posted 6/8/2006 7:01:47 PM | message detail
Maybe it's just me trying to make this thing into something unpredictable, along with SSBM being my number 1 game. If only SSBB was out...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/8/2006 7:06:08 PM | message detail
I'm confused as to why Mario Kart is a "lock". Both sides have confidence in that match, I would guess.

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Tai | Posted 6/8/2006 7:08:03 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

Fact. SC seems to be an RPG with high-acclaim. But, so is Pokemon. 48.2% had Xenogears beating Pokemon.

Now, will SC win? We'll see.

Fact or Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

This question puzzles me...what's SFF to you? A double and a half on each? I suppose I'll say for the question fact, but I want a number on this. =\ SFF ain't SFF if the margin's not big enough.

Fact or Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

Do you really give Metroid that tiny bit of credit? XD

Fiction.

Fact or Fiction: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Much better. I'd take a triple on Civilization, and I think it could slap up MMX. Against Metroid, it's a toss up. But, I'll bite.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

Scoring? I'll presume you mean lowest votes.

If so, Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

Fact or Fiction: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

It's definitely the match I'm thinkin about the most, right now. I think of only two other possiblities; Mario Kart/Mega Man and Pokemon/SC. Well, I think the winner of both will be more than 55%.

I'll say fact.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

...I have KH winning.

Fiction.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

Fiction. I can't buy into the Blizzard hype, sorry.

Fact or Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

That's funny! :D I guess there will be as much discussion, am I rite?

Fiction; I say Mario/Mega Man.

Fact or Fiction: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

The only thing that ties them toghether seems to be their company. Now, while that's part of what SFF is about, it just doesn't seem realistilcly reasonable. One series is fighting, and the other involves scary monsters! D:

Fiction...

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

What are the Elder Scrolls?

Fiction...

Fact or Fiction: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.

SMB/FF? I'll....bite.

Fact.

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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 7:15:24 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

Fiction.

Fact or Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

Fiction.

Fact or Fiction: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Fact. It'll be a struggle with Metroid, though.

Fact or Fiction: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

Fiction. Castlevania is niche, Halo isn't. 55% for Halo at minimum.

Fact or Fiction: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

Fact. Not that's there's much competition. Second round looks to be pretty predictable.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

Fact. Kingdom Hearts can and will upset MG. KHII's influence will be massive.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Fiction. 80% at best. Madden is an enormously popular series; you just don't see much of that around here.

Fact or Fiction: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

Fiction. 60% for GTA.

Fact or Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Fact, but only because the average BOPer refuses to see the blatant evidence going against Sonic.

Fact or Fiction: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

Fiction. Mario Kart will beat Mega Man. And the prediction percentage won't even be an upset for MK. Book it.

Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fiction. The average voter will see the name "Elder Scrolls" and forget that it's the same series Oblivion is from. Street Fighter has this one in the bag.

Fact or Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Fiction. These series have almost nothing in common.

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

Fiction. It won't even get out of the first round.

Fact or Fiction: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.

Sonic/Smash Bros. Maybe.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 7:17:44 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

What are the Elder Scrolls?


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kippy33 | Posted 6/8/2006 7:18:23 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.

Fact, but it won't win.

Fact or Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.

Fact, but not much.

Fact or Fiction: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.

Sadly, Fact, but not by much.

Fact or Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.

Fiction, it'll be GTA/Warcraft. (Finally, a fiction.)

Fact or Fiction: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.

Not even close. Fiction. Every other 2/3-seed match will be closer than this one.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

Fiction, but I'm very reluctant on this one.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.

Fact, easily.

Fact or Fiction: Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.

Realistic? Fact, Warcraft should win. Easily.

Fact or Fiction: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Fact

Fact or Fiction: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.

Fact, and a good one at that.

Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fiction, Street Fighter should win out this time.

Fact or Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Fiction. I just don't see that much of a similarity.

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

Fiction, The Elder Scrolls can't even beat Street Fighter.

Fact or Fiction: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.

Fiction. It didn't happen till the finals this year, and this contest is even worse this year.
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 7:19:10 PM | message detail
I'm confused as to why Mario Kart is a "lock". Both sides have confidence in that match, I would guess.

Because Mario Kart is far more well-known to the average voter than Mega Man. Like it or not, Mega Man is a niche series at best nowadays.

Mega Man the character is instantly recognizable, but his games don't resonate with the casual gamer.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 7:20:20 PM | message detail
Fiction. The average voter will see the name "Elder Scrolls" and forget that it's the same series Oblivion is from.

0_o, you think people are this stupid? Why exactly would they not know what series it's from?
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 7:21:12 PM | message detail
Random thought: It's very sad to think that a series as well known and respected as Castlevania may be our ultimate loser.
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ApplesauceSign | Posted 6/8/2006 7:21:23 PM | message detail
This is GameFAQs, not your circle of friends Phei.

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kippy33 | Posted 6/8/2006 7:22:43 PM | message detail
"Fiction. The average voter will see the name "Elder Scrolls" and forget that it's the same series Oblivion is from."

"0_o, you think people are this stupid? Why exactly would they not know what series it's from?"


I didn't know that. o.o
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Phediuk | Posted 6/8/2006 7:23:51 PM | message detail
"0_o, you think people are this stupid? Why exactly would they not know what series it's from?"

For the same reason Gordon Freeman can't win a match.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 7:26:45 PM | message detail
The box, commercial, title screen, and opening scene of the game all quite clearly state it's an elder scrolls game. You'd have to be really damn dense to miss it...
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2006 7:28:57 PM | message detail
Fiction: Star Ocean has a fighting chance against Pokemon.
-I see another V Joe./Tails in the works.

Fiction: Metroid will SFF Kirby AND Pokemon.
-I actually think Pokemon has a remote, remote chance of winning.

Fact: The Legend of Zelda will at least TRIPLE Metroid.
-It will probably come very close.

Fact: Zelda at least doubles everything in its division.

Unsure: Fire Emblem/Silent Hill is the lowest-scoring match of the contest.
-Elder Scrolls/Street Fighter will give it a run for its money.

Fiction: Halo/Castlevania will be the closest first-round match.
-Halo will win and it won't even be close. Mario Kart Vs. Mega Man is the only shot I see at a nailbiter and I douvt that.

Fact: Kingdom Hearts vs. Halo/Castlevania will be the closest second-round match.
-Although take Castlevania out of the equation.

Fiction: Metal Gear will lose before the Final Four.

Fiction: Super Mario Brothers will break 90% on Madden.
-I see high 80s. Madden will lose any shot it has at getting casuals against Mario.

Fact : Warcraft has a realistic chance of beating Grand Theft Auto.
-I picked GTA and am not looking back, but Warcraft has a decent shot, sure.

Fact: Sonic/Smash Brothers will be the most split match in the BOP.

Fact: Mario Kart has a chance of upsetting Mega Man.
-I actually have it.

Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fiction: In the event of Street Fighter/Resident Evil, there WILL be SFF.

Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

Fact: We will have a match break 100,000 before the Final Four.
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Tai | Posted 6/8/2006 7:33:28 PM | message detail
Fact or Fiction: Street Fighter will fail to get out of the first round...again.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: The Elder Scrolls can make the divisional finals.

What are the Elder Scrolls?

DOES NOT COMPUTE!


Oh ****. My bad.

Yeah, it's fiction that SF will fail to get out of the first round.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 7:33:50 PM | message detail
Not to veer too far off topic, but since you seem to know a lot about game sales HM, do you have any idea how many copies the elders scrolls IV:oblivion has sold so far?

I believe sales of the Xbox 360 and PC combine to something like 1.5 million.

...And no one outside of the RPG nerd community has ever heard of Suikoden, either. Hence why it performs like **** in these contests.

Suikoden is far more cult than either series we're talking about. Star Ocean is nothing even remotely close to Suikoden in that regard. Star Ocean would kill Suikoden in a match and I would expect it to be Xenogears as well.

Xenogears is considerably more popular than SO or Suikoden.

... No, it is not. It is more popular than Suikoden, but there are a lot of things more popular than Suikoden. It is not considerably more popular than Star Ocean at all. That's just so wrong it hurts.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/8/2006 7:37:43 PM | message detail
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