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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/8/2006 4:40:30 PM | message detail
Took long enough. Evil-ass bracket, too.



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15
SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17
SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/32
SFF Adjusted Summer 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/33

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexstats.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

SephirothG's Nomination Rally Board (lol cheap plug)
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585012



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Undeniable | Posted 6/8/2006 4:40:55 PM | message detail
Pokemon vs Metroid will be weird, BOOK IT
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 6/8/2006 4:41:02 PM | message detail
Mega Man vs. Mario Cart will break brackets, as will SSM vs. SMB


KB
Sses | Posted 6/8/2006 4:42:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, MK is kinda tricky. I'm not really all too smart with these contests, but will MK have similar strength to Mario Bros?
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heroic tranny | Posted 6/8/2006 4:42:58 PM | message detail
evil? I dunno about that.

no Chrono is wrong, though.
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cyko | Posted 6/8/2006 4:42:58 PM | message detail
FINALLY!!! BRACKET!!!!

AND I HAVE TO LEAVE AT THE MOMENT!!!!

!!>_<!!

i'll be back in a few hours to throw my two cents into Topic 289. =P

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Kyle Bowen | Posted 6/8/2006 4:43:10 PM | message detail
How about Silent Hill and Fire Emblem?


KB
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/8/2006 4:43:28 PM | message detail
I think FE wins, though not easily.

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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 6/8/2006 4:43:55 PM | message detail
Smash Bros is going to the final four
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 6/8/2006 4:44:40 PM | message detail
As Crazy as I am, I think SSB wins.


KB
Dark Ninja1521 | Posted 6/8/2006 4:45:44 PM | message detail
I'd give the edge slightly to SMB.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/8/2006 4:47:28 PM | message detail
Silent Hill beats Fire Emblem.

Even if the movie sucked, it gave a TON of exposure to the series.
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heroic tranny | Posted 6/8/2006 4:51:00 PM | message detail
my thoughts (for the archives!):

Hyrule Division

Legend of Zelda
Civilization

Suikoden
Mega Man X

Pokemon
Star Ocean

Metroid
Kirby

yawwwn. Kirby's games are not nearly as popular as his series, so Metroid-Kirby won't be close. Pokemon will probably draw enough anti-votes to give Metroid the round 2 win. Zelda smashes everything of course. not that x-stats for something like this will matter, but ouch.

Snake Division

Metal Gear
Soul Calibur

Silent Hill
Fire Emblem

Castlevania
Halo

Kingdom Hearts
Harvest Moon

Metal Gear's division should have been a free-for-all; instead, we get a really weak 4-5 matchup. put GTA-Warcraft in this division and you've got a nice division. Castlevania-Halo is one of the two best first-round matchups, the other being Mario Kart/Mega Man. I've got Castlevania right now, but I think both could win this. KH probably edges out the winner. I've got MG winning the whole thing though.

Mushroom Division

Super Mario Bros.
Madden NFL

Grand Theft Auto
Warcraft

Sonic
Devil May Cry

Super Smash Bros.
Dragon Quest

Madden might approach Tanner's record here. eh, probably not, but I could see 88-90%. GTA is wasted here, essentially being fed to Mario. it'd take a crazy WOW effort to beat GTA - any antivotes it may have gotten will get doubled by Warcraft's. I've got SSB over Sonic and then a SFF-fest in the finals.

Ultima Division

Final Fantasy
Diablo

Mario Kart
Mega Man

Street Fighter
The Elder Scrolls

Resident Evil
Shadow Hearts

Mario Kart vs. Mega Man is brutal. I'm taking Mega Man right now, but I might change due to the whole Nintendofaqs thing. RE beats Street Fighter rather convincingly and gets destroyed by Final Fantasy.

overall, not a very good bracket. it could be a lot, lot harder than it is.
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heroic tranny | Posted 6/8/2006 4:54:00 PM | message detail
yawwwn. Kirby's games are not nearly as popular as his series

er, his character. yeah.
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Yesmar | Posted 6/8/2006 4:59:41 PM | message detail
This has to be one of the worst brackets ever. Thank goodness it's just for a 32-entrant contest.
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jonthomson | Posted 6/8/2006 5:08:20 PM | message detail
Bah, I only just noticed the "starting July" bit. Boo.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:14:10 PM | message detail
I didn't even go for 500!

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NewLib | Posted 6/8/2006 5:14:13 PM | message detail
With this contest not happening until July there is a posibility that the Character contest doesnt start until September, which puts a pretty obvious Cloud over Link pick by me in serious doubt depending on when TP comes out.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:14:38 PM | message detail
I seriously think that the elder scrolls has upset potential against street fighter. Maybe that's just me though.
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NewLib | Posted 6/8/2006 5:16:02 PM | message detail
No its not just you. Thats one of my little upset specials. Street Fighter is going down.
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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 5:16:10 PM | message detail
Man... I hate to be a buzz killer, but the bracket kinda sucks. There are so many wasted opportunities in there... ;_;
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 5:18:02 PM | message detail
Street Fighter is going to kick some ass right up until it faces Final Fantasy!!

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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 5:18:32 PM | message detail
At least it'll be a lot better than last year's Spring Contest.
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Tai | Posted 6/8/2006 5:18:34 PM | message detail
It's hard to take Mega Man when none of this games made the Best. Game. Ever. contest.

People argued before that it was because there's so many games, but while that's a pleasing thought for someone willing to make Mega Man, MK:DS was one of the best games to have in your DS collection before MP:H.
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NewLib | Posted 6/8/2006 5:18:42 PM | message detail
Lopen actually I got the completely opposite impression. I think this one of the better laid out brackets we have had. The only games I see wasted is Diablo and Metroid.
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therealmnm | Posted 6/8/2006 5:18:49 PM | message detail
You meant Resident Evil!
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Tai | Posted 6/8/2006 5:19:05 PM | message detail
Man... I hate to be a buzz killer, but the bracket kinda sucks. There are so many wasted opportunities in there... ;_;

Haven't taken a good look, but everyone seems to be saying that now.. >_>
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 5:21:42 PM | message detail
It's hard to take Mega Man when none of this games made the Best. Game. Ever. contest.

We have not seen a Mario Kart game either. People always say that Mega Man has so many people with different favorites that its strength/ability to get into the contest would be split because of that. Now it's the entire original Mega Man franchise against Mario Kart. Give me Mega Man.


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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:21:49 PM | message detail
I think taking MK > MM is a very foolish thing to do. No one can really agree on what the best MM is, and as a result we've never been able to really get a track on the games. With them all combined as one, I see MM being one of the stronger series in this entire contest, in fact I'm calling a 4th place finish for it behind the big 3. You may call me crazy, but if it went up against Metal Gear, I think I would have to take MM.

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Lopen | Posted 6/8/2006 5:23:11 PM | message detail
You may call me crazy, but if it went up against Metal Gear, I think I would have to take MM.

I would've made that pick. If only Mario Kart/Mega Man were in Metal Gear's divison instead...
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 5:23:46 PM | message detail
Mega Man is so old. People would have to be confused enough to assume that the "Mega Man" series includes ALL of MM's games for it to have that kind of strength.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:24:08 PM | message detail
Seriously... MM is a ****ty goddamn place.

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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:24:55 PM | message detail
SMB is old... are you saying it's not going to finish number 3?

Also, don't pull NSMB on me either, because you would have taken it before that I reckon.

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/8/2006 5:25:07 PM | message detail
People were debating Pokemon/Star Ocean? I was debating Pokemon/Metroid. The anti-Pokemon thing is starting to go down.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:25:50 PM | message detail
Here's a question to think about: what do you think will end up being the weakest series in the contest? Call me crazy, but I think it's going to be madden.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/8/2006 5:26:17 PM | message detail
Mega Man is so old. People would have to be confused enough to assume that the "Mega Man" series includes ALL of MM's games for it to have that kind of strength.

Uh ... what? People don't have to be confused in the slightest. It doesn't look like he'll be doing anything to specify what type of series it is either. Mega Man is a huge franchise, especially the old games. If you are worried about that, it doesn't look like CJayC is going to bother putting (original) next to the series, which means people are going to see "Mega Man v. Mario Kart."

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NewLib | Posted 6/8/2006 5:26:18 PM | message detail
Lopen, you seem to just want to feed LOZ and FF fodder since no one can beat them. While that sounds smart from a challenge stand point, you cant do it in a practical standpoint. You are going to have to have atleast a few mid/high major series in their 8 packs.

I think its good that SMB, SSB, Metal Gear, Halo, KH, Sonic, DMC escaped it as I see them as Series 3-9. Only then do I see Mario Kart, Mega Man Series, and Metroid coming in.
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jonthomson | Posted 6/8/2006 5:26:32 PM | message detail
The anti-Pokemon thing is starting to go down.

Is that because nobody cares about Pokemon either way any more?
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yoblazer33 | Posted 6/8/2006 5:26:53 PM | message detail
SMB is old... are you saying it's not going to finish number 3?

Super Mario Bros.'s lifespan is ~1985-2007+. I believe the last Mega Man game came out in 1993. Plus, any one of Mario's games would kill any of Mega's. No Mega Man game ever shook the industry. Mario's done it... four times?
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:27:13 PM | message detail
Can LoZ vs. Civ or SMB vs. Madden beat Solid Snake vs. Tanner?

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NewLib | Posted 6/8/2006 5:27:26 PM | message detail
Weakest Series? Shadow Hearts or Harvest Moon
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:27:50 PM | message detail
I think it's pretty safe to say that people who like mega man X but haven't played mega man or gonig to vote for both annd vice versa. I think both of them being in the contest may impede this a bit, but not too much.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:28:58 PM | message detail
Well does Super Mario 64 count as SMB? I don't think it does. People would have to be confused enough to assume that the "Super Mario Brother" series includes ALL of Mario platforming games.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:29:18 PM | message detail
Civilization is a popular enough series to hold it's own in at least a somewhat respectable manner, and shadow hearts should have enough of a cult following to pull out the votes needed to avoid complete embarrassment as well I think.
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Shadowdude II | Posted 6/8/2006 5:31:25 PM | message detail
My bracket.

LoZ
MMX
Pokemon
Metroid

Metal Gear
Silent Hill
Halo
Kingdom Hearts

SMB
GTA
Sonic
SSB

FF
MM
SF
RE

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LoZ
Metroid

Metal Gear
Halo

SMB
SSB

FF
RE

-

LoZ
Metal Gear

SMB
FF

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LoZ
SMB

With Zelda winning.
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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:32:51 PM | message detail
I really wish SMB didn't have such a predictable path. The new SMB game could make it surprisingly strong.
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swirIdude | Posted 6/8/2006 5:33:14 PM | message detail
Well does Super Mario 64 count as SMB? I don't think it does. People would have to be confused enough to assume that the "Super Mario Brother" series includes ALL of Mario platforming games.

...

Then again, being EC, this was probably sarcastic. But still, it shockd me.
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Chinballz | Posted 6/8/2006 5:34:39 PM | message detail
I believe the last Mega Man game came out in 1993.

Not counting Mega Man & Bass, which came out in 2003 (1998 in Japan), the last Mega Man game to come out was MM8 in 1997.
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Applause Sign | Posted 6/8/2006 5:36:30 PM | message detail
Then again, being EC, this was probably sarcastic. But still, it shockd me.

Why? Super Mario Brothers and the Super Mario series are two different series. I mean if you're going to distinguish MM & MMX as two different so are they.

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dragoontheguy | Posted 6/8/2006 5:36:32 PM | message detail
If age were to slow mega an down, I think mega man anniversary collection would have brought it back up.
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