GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 287
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| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 9:17:41 PM | message detail |
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With SM64 probably being my favorite game, I gotta disagree -- I like
the worlds in SM64 more, and you don't have to switch powers like you
do in SMS (while SM64 still has powers, flying > rocket-jumping or
hovering). --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 9:19:41 PM | message detail |
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Super Mario Sunshine wasn't bad, but it was definitely one of the
lesser Mario games and certainly not better than Super Mario 64. SMS'
level design was lacking, the variety was not there, and I got tired of
that waterpack after a while. The bosses were also not anything
particularly fun or special, except for the rollercoaster fight. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/4/2006 9:29:58 PM | message detail |
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The flying in Super Mario 64 was pointless for the most part. That was probably my least
favorite power in the game. At least the vanishing cap and metal cap
had practicality. The wing cap was pretty much there to make the game
look cool. The physics of the wing cap didn't make it very useful. As for the levels, I find them lacking compared to a Banjo-Kazooie. Sure the locales were better than Super Mario Sunshine, but the actual level design sucked to me. Don't get me wrong, I got my N64 and Super Mario 64 the day it came out and loved the hell out of it. But looking in retrospect, the game really isn't that great to me. Super Mario Sunshine did a lot of things better than SM64 to me. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 10:20:00 PM | message detail |
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Let's just compromise and say that Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
is better than both Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine (if you
haven't played it, get on it!). --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 11:04:51 PM | message detail |
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http://www.creativeuncut.com/album/whit009.gif --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tiedus | Posted 6/4/2006 11:13:12 PM | message detail |
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Going further with that, let's agree that Jak III is better than all three games! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| voltch | Posted 6/4/2006 11:40:39 PM | message detail |
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Is this some kind of record for nomination lenghts? --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| Tiedus | Posted 6/5/2006 6:17:22 AM | message detail |
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The week of the bracket!! --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/5/2006 10:52:47 AM | message detail |
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A friendly reminder! With the bracket coming online later this week and the length (existence?) of a prediction period still unknown, this may be your last chance to sign up for the Best Series Guru Contest! Add your name to the list if you would like to compete this season, and keep in mind that for the first time ever, this season's winner gets to pick one character that all the other Gurus have to nominate in the coming Character Contest! In addition, the classic "praised in the signature" rule still applies. And now, The Gurus of the Contest That's About to Be 1 - UltimaterializerX 2 - Team Rocket Elite 3 - Ngamer64 4 - yoblazer33 5 - transience 6 - Heroic Mario 7 - Viviff 8 - silverkiller 9 - Undeniable 10 - Kaxon 11 - Applekidjosh 12 - HaRRicH 13 - Lopen 14 - Z1mZum 15 - Chinballz 16 - A World's Envy 17 - Zylothewolf 18 - greatone 19 - cavedog0 20 - DomaDragoon 21 - Big Bob 22 - Ed Bellis 23 - expaniol 24 - Buzzup 25 - Radix 26 - RPGuy96 27 - Dethwing 28 - soiledtrousers 29 - consolefreak 30 - SephirothG 31 - ExquisiteSamurai 32 - Dark115 33 - NewLib 34 - Draco1214 35 - jonthomson 36 - MegatokyoEd 37 - Voltch 38 - Lucid Faia 39 - Master Moltar 40 - KleenexTissue50 41 - red sox 777 42 - Mithrandir1331 43 - arkenaga 44 - Tai 45 - Mario Superstar 46 - neonreaper 47 - XxSoulxX 48 - SonicRaptor 49 - ChichiriMuyo 50 - OMG its Pale! 51 - dragoontheguy 52 - XIII is cool 53 - Shivan Reincarnated 54 - outback 55 - DarkLink89 56 - dethfdddddh 57 - Ayvuir 58 - Janus5000 59 - War13104 60 - andaca 61 - swirldude 62 - Explicit Content 63 - Meche313 64 - HeroicVivi 65 - FastFalcon05 66 - Tnote 67 - Yesmar 68 - Mac Arrowny 69 - MasterMage119 70 - King Morgoth 71 - Aprosenf 72 - Phediuk 73 - charmander6000 74 - Rufus Shinra 18 75 - Mister Mario 76 - Luis Sera89 77 - longbladeofhiko 78 - shadow8021 79 - Lieutenant Kettch 80 - RPGGamer0 81 - WiggumFan267 82 - MetaRidleyX 83 - chocoboslayer 84 - FFDragon 85 - GrapefruitKing 86 - Lagoona 87 - The CruelAngel 88 - Fett0001 89 - cyko 90 - Dunkeroo23 91 - Bobby200614 92 - Tediz247 93 - Samurai7 94 - Jman_GamerX8 95 - ps2rulezzz 96 - Dilated Chemist 97 - Guess how many Teens 98 - Prometheus321 99 - Steinershocker 100 - TheLivingDemon 101 - Tirofog 102 - TheRye 103 - Vile Requiem 104 - rpgapzx --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 11:49:24 AM | message detail |
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To go back to RE4, you're absolutely crazy if you don't
think RE4 has gained in popularity since the last time we saw it or
Leon for the matter. More than doubling it's sales since the last time
we've seen it perform is no joke, especially when it was already huge
to begin with. Sure there were some added features, but I don't think
it was enough to warrant a notable percent of gamecube RE4 owners
buying the PS2 version. As for it facing off with Zelda, I'd probably take RE4, though I wouldn't call you crazy for taking Zelda. I would call you crazy if you said RE4 has no shot in hell though. We really need to see Leon return in the next character battle, because I think there could be some serious underestimation of him and serious upset potential if given the right place in the bracket. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 12:05:28 PM | message detail |
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Sure, there is the potential that Leon and RE4 as a whole
have increased in popularity, but in all reality, I don't think there
is much further for them to move up. I don't see Leon being able to
hang with anybody in the stats above him except maybe Donkey Kong. Anybody else and you're looking for him to replace perennial favorites in character tier lists. Sure, RE4 could give LoZ a match, but I'd feel very comfortable taking LoZ in that matchup. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 12:09:34 PM | message detail |
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To add to that, I don't think doubling in sales really means as much as
what people are making it out to be. You have to remember that the PS2
has a much larger demographic overall than the Gamecube. When a game from the Cube is ported to the PS2, you would expect the PS2 version to sell more than the Cube version. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| jonthomson | Posted 6/5/2006 12:19:44 PM | message detail |
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pick one character that all the other Gurus have to nominate So that's Ridley into the tournament then :-) --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 12:21:47 PM | message detail |
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Sure, there is the potential that Leon and RE4 as a whole have
increased in popularity, but in all reality, I don't think there is
much further for them to move up. I don't see why. If 1.2 million sales can do that to RE4/Leon, I don't know why 1.5 million more would have no effect on either of them. For RE4 it's not as if we're talking about characters, we're talking about games, and the more a game sells, the better it is obviously going to do/more it is going to boost the game. If out of 1.2 million people the game landed at number 14 on the top 100, I guarantee with an additional 1.5 million people being introduced to the game that RE4 would have most definitely made the top 10, there's no logical reason for it to not too, unless of course PS2 owners are a bunch of people who hate Resident Evil games but bought the game regardless. To add to that, I don't think doubling in sales really means as much as what people are making it out to be. You have to remember that the PS2 has a much larger demographic overall than the Gamecube. When a game from the Cube is ported to the PS2, you would expect the PS2 version to sell more than the Cube version. The percentage of PS2 owners to Gamecube owners is completely irrelevant for the type of discussion we have going on here. Sure the 1.2 million in sales on Gamecube is more impressive considering the fanbase, but on GameFAQs PS2 owners don't completely trump Gamecube owners like they do in the real world, sure their are still more of them, but not that extremely. And even if they did, the point is still worthless. 1.5 million in sales on the N-Gage would have been just as impressive, actually a lot more impressive since the N-Gage probably hasn't sold 1.5 systems, but regardless, 1.5 million is 1.5 million and the game was loved by anyone who played it. I haven't heard of a single person that actually disliked the game. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 12:23:35 PM | message detail |
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So that's Ridley into the tournament then :-) Why would you want Ridley in the tournament when he already got owned in the Villains contest? I mean sure, you don't have to pick someone who is going to do well in the contest, or potentially could, but if you're going to get someone in just for the sake of seeing them actually make it in the contest, why not make it someone we've never seen before? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 12:44:42 PM | message detail |
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I don't see why. If 1.2 million sales can do that to RE4/Leon, I
don't know why 1.5 million more would have no effect on either of them.
For RE4 it's not as if we're talking about characters, we're talking
about games, and the more a game sells, the better it is obviously
going to do/more it is going to boost the game. If out of 1.2 million
people the game landed at number 14 on the top 100, I guarantee with an
additional 1.5 million people being introduced to the game that RE4
would have most definitely made the top 10, there's no logical reason
for it to not too, unless of course PS2 owners are a bunch of people
who hate Resident Evil games but bought the game regardless. Well those are 1.4 million GAMECUBE sales, which is a huge difference. 1.4 million sales among Gamecube owners is much more significant than 2 million sales on the PS2. So obviously that 1.4 million on a Gamecube is going to do significantly more for it than those PS2 sales. The percentage of PS2 owners to Gamecube owners is completely irrelevant for the type of discussion we have going on here. Sure the 1.2 million in sales on Gamecube is more impressive considering the fanbase, but on GameFAQs PS2 owners don't completely trump Gamecube owners like they do in the real world, sure their are still more of them, but not that extremely. Exactly, which is why the 1.4 million sales on the Gamecube holds much more weight than the 2 million or so PS2 sales, at least in my opinion. http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS2&publisher=&sort=Total Look how many games have 2 million sales on the PS2. My whole point is that those near 2 million sales on the PS2 aren't nearly as significant as we're making it out to be. Not that it won't do anything for RE4's popularity, as it obviously will. But I'm just stating that I don't really think that RE4's popularity as a whole has much further to go up on this site. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/5/2006 12:47:49 PM | message detail |
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Hmm...supposing Street Fighter/Resident Evil was a 4/5 match in the
upcoming contest; which would you take? I think this is interesting
because Ryu > Leon, but RE4 > SFII (probably). --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/NintendoDesktop2.jpg |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/5/2006 12:57:43 PM | message detail |
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This was posted last topic and I have to comment on it: So, as of December 2005, the PS2 sold 370,000 more RE4 games than the Gamecube...interesting. That means the PS2 sold more in two months than the Gamecube did all year, and that Leon's and RE4's performances in the contests are unaffected by the PS2 port (though the GotY polls are affected). That might be true worldwide, but in America the Gamecube version is STILL AHEAD. Japan is the only territory that I know of where the PS2 version beat the GCN version. FFTA *is* popular. Don't let this board's bias against it fool you. Other than here it's pretty popular. --- "What's wrong with boot blacking? I like it very much." |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 1:02:07 PM | message detail |
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Also, that website has Kingdom Hearts II sales, so it's not a given
that those Resident Evil 4 sales are only from December 2005. Anybody
else have any current sales info on RE4 for comparison? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 6/5/2006 1:03:04 PM | message detail |
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Even though this isn't likely to happen, what if this contest isn't
decided by the time the nominations for summer are over? I know it's
next to impossible he'd do the two simultaneously, but I remember that
that was the plan for last year's villain/character battle...or maybe
it was two years ago with games/character battle...the only reason I
bring it up is for the guru contest; it's possible (I wish it were
probable) the winner won't get his nom in. --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/5/2006 1:32:03 PM | message detail |
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I'd just like to post another reminder that RE4 has also gone Player's
Choice on the GCN since the last contest. It's GCN sales have also
increased dramatically, so it's not like the PS2 is all we're looking
at for a boost. --- Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 3:00:10 PM | message detail |
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Something I haven't really seen anybody mention, let alone discuss.
What do you guys think about Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City stories
being released on the PS2 this week? And for $19.99 (or less) on top of
that? It may be just a port of the PSP game, but given how Grand Theft
Auto sells on the PS2, I think it might have an effect on how GTA does
in the contest. There certainly is going to be an increase in presence
of GTA fans on this site with it being released just before the contest starts. How much it affects it is debatable, but I think it's an interesting tidbit to bring up... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/5/2006 3:01:42 PM | message detail |
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So how bout that bracket <_< --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| heroic tranny | Posted 6/5/2006 3:02:08 PM | message detail |
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I'd agree if it were a SMS-type thing, but it doesn't look like the
contest is going to start for a few weeks still. I'm not sure a PSP
port (?!) is going to do massive damage to other franchises. I guess
we'll keep an eye on the FAQ listings. basically, I don't think it'll help GTA any more than NSMB will help Mario. --- xyzzy |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 6/5/2006 3:02:49 PM | message detail |
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pick one character that all the other Gurus have to nominate Oooh, I like that. Tron Bonne it is~! --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| jonthomson | Posted 6/5/2006 3:06:04 PM | message detail |
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why not make it someone we've never seen before? I wouldn't want Johnny Rocketfingers to potentially disrupt Jay Solano's record attempt. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 3:10:53 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but we've seen how GTA sells and also the presence it has on this
site. It may be far less popular than San Andreas, but it still is a GTA console release. Every
GTA this generation has been a million seller, regardless of whether it
is a port or not. And we're talking a 10 million gap between PS2 GTA
sales and PSP GTA sales. There are probably quite a few PS2 owners who
will pick up the game, especially for $19.99 ($14.99 at Circuit City).
It definitely has potential to have an effect on the contest,
given how FAQ heavy the GTA series is. It doesn't really need to have a
SMS-effect to help out GTA as a series. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 3:49:12 PM | message detail |
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mnm, you are seriously blowing my mind right now. I can't comprehend
why 1.5 million sales on the PS2 is worth less than 1.2 on the
Gamecube. I understand the whole 1.2 GC sales is a -MUCH- larger
percent than 1.5 PS2 sales, but I don't see why that would make any
difference at all. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/5/2006 4:10:16 PM | message detail |
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Because you're assuming that the same percentage of those PS2 Resident
Evil gamers are frequenting this site as opposed to the same percentage
of Gamecube RE gamers. If the Gamecube fanbase and Playstation fanbase
on this site are nearly equal, that would mean that a large number of
PS2 gamers are not frequenting the site. A good percentage of those RE4 PS2 sales are probably from the PS2 fanbase that doesn't
frequent the site (the exact percentage is obviously debatable). Of
course I could be wrong, but I don't see what doesn't make sense about
it. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: Fable, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC |
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| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 4:48:39 PM | message detail |
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Because you never explained it like that before, and now I see where
you're coming from, and I admit it's a good point. Still I see nowhere
for the series to go but up, and still expect a boost of noticeable
amounts. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/5/2006 6:29:55 PM | message detail |
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You're also assuming a lot of things, assumptions I wouldn't be so quick to make. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 6:40:26 PM | message detail |
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Such as? --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 6:48:04 PM | message detail |
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Assuming what percentage of which demographic comes to this board. That's dangerous territory. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 6:48:23 PM | message detail |
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To this site, rather. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 7:01:14 PM | message detail |
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Assuming what percentage of which demographic comes to this board. That's dangerous territory. I am? All I said was that in comparison to the general pubic, we have a much higher percent of gamecube owners, and lower percent of PS2 owners, in comparison to each other, which is true by looking at polls that have run. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:02:12 PM | message detail |
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But you CAN'T assume what percentage of those who come here have bought Resident Evil 4. There's no way to gauge that. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/5/2006 7:03:00 PM | message detail |
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*looks at top ten faq list* I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. whenever a multiconsole game comes out here, the PS2 version is always the one with the highest rank in the top 50. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:04:16 PM | message detail |
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*looks* Well, the GC version of RE4 is 26th, and the PS2 version is 31st, so not always. But close. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/5/2006 7:06:05 PM | message detail |
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yeah, but the GC version came out like a year before the PS2 version,
so a lot more people have the GC version. if they came out at the same
time, you'd see PS2 > GC > XBox. --- xyzzy |
| Applause Sign | Posted 6/5/2006 7:06:41 PM | message detail |
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But you CAN'T assume what percentage of those who come here have bought Resident Evil 4. There's no way to gauge that. Of course I can't, but I can assume that at least some of them have. There's no reason to assume that they haven't, anytime a game is released we have to make some sort of an assumption how much it will boost or affect a game or character. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 6/5/2006 7:07:42 PM | message detail |
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Do you think that Ryu is now at Tidus' level after his disaster against Bowser? .......Could he lose to PS2!Leon? --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:14:09 PM | message detail |
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Really, I was more arguing against the idea of "Don't expect much of a
boost due to the PS2 version because more people own the system," but
whatever. That's what I was referring to when I said you're getting
into dangerous territory when assuming those things. Honestly, I think
that's a silly reason to argue against a boost. Sure, there is some
basis to it, but I don't agree with it. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:15:55 PM | message detail |
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As far as Ryu vs. Leon Kennedy is concerned, I'd still take the Street
Fighter. I think he's got a comfortable enough of a margin to hold off
whatever boost Leon might get. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/5/2006 7:23:24 PM | message detail |
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if anything, it goes something like this: there's less GC games to
choose from, so more people buy the game. this is one of the reasons
why TOS is so popular - it's not very different to Tales of Eternia or
Tales of Legendia, but it's on a console that's starved for games, so
it gets more of a look. --- xyzzy |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 6/5/2006 7:23:55 PM | message detail |
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Who's considering Leon over Ryu? Ryu took Dante with 55%. He'd give Leon a similar, if not worse, beating. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:25:13 PM | message detail |
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But would Ryu still beat Dante? As much as I hate to admit it, unless
either Vincent/Crono or Bowser/Ryu were flukes...No, he doesn't. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/5/2006 7:25:37 PM | message detail |
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and I'd take both over Leon. I don't trust Leon yet; I mean, he let Gordon Freeman get like 41%. he can definitely beat both, but I'm being conservative for the time being. --- xyzzy |
| trannyscience | Posted 6/5/2006 7:27:00 PM | message detail |
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Dante/Ryu.... tossup match in my mind. I'd probably take Dante just because he has more going for him lately. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/5/2006 7:29:15 PM | message detail |
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I don't know that it's really that much of a toss-up. If Ryu beats
Dante, then Bowser gets close to 60% on him. That means Vincent only
gets about 45% on Bowser. That means Bowser = Crono. That means Snake
> Crono. Mario can tell you that's not true. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |