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| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:15:17 PM | message detail |
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Vlado - Zelda is made by Nintendo, after all. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:16:12 PM | message detail |
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Heh, the sig says it all HM. =P I kid, I kid. So...going back to the last topic, does anybody object my argument for RE4 having legit strength? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:17:19 PM | message detail |
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The vote was rallied for by b.net earlier that day. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:19:17 PM | message detail |
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so the rallier didn't vote out of shame? hmm, interesting! --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:19:22 PM | message detail |
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To whoever mentioned it in the last topic: Could Resident Evil 4 get
43% on Mario 3? My gut says yes. There are quite a few Division 128
games that get that much or at least come close. Honestly, recency IS a
big factor, in my opinion. But I have a hard time gauging Final Fantasy VIII. For the person who said it'd be strongest after the Super Seven...As much as I'd love for it to be true, I can't see it. I think this is a game where the hate COULD affect its performance, at least to the point of preventing it from getting THAT high up in the stats. I don't think it'd beat Final Fantasy X, to be quite honest. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Incompetence | Posted 6/4/2006 8:19:40 PM | message detail |
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Indeed it does. Also, that one vote for Operation Shadow was mine. --- My name says it all. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:22:21 PM | message detail |
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I missed the 43% on Mario 3 deal from the last topic, I suppose. But
yeah, I could see it happening. I could also see it not getting that
high, but it's not unthinkable or impossible at all. That game is at
like 3 million copies sold worldwide, I think. It sold extremely well
on the PS2 and now has that fanbase to work off of on top of the GCN
one. I could see it doing really well on Mario 3. And yeah, I don't think FFVIII would beat FFX, but I believe FFVIII would be right around that area in strength. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:25:24 PM | message detail |
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I simply was too busy making other RE arguments to respond to it, so I
will now: I see RE4 getting 44% or so -- give or take a lil' -- on
SMB3, mainly because of strength and some because of it being so much
more recent. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:26:39 PM | message detail |
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FF10 didn't really impress me in 2k4 though - I don't know about anyone
else, but I expected a lot more than a doubling vs. FFTA. if I remember
right, its first round match wasn't all that impressive either. it's
almost like it gets its own share of antivotes. it and FF10 are right
next to each other in my mind for next strongest game. my list goes
something like this: 8. FF8 9. FF10 10. MGS 11. SM64 12. Zelda 1 13. Mario World --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:30:28 PM | message detail |
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Final Fantasy X did about the same on Shenmue as The Wind Waker did on
Skies of Arcadia, and I was absolutely puzzled when people said that
Zelda had the advantage after round 1. Granted, I'd never heard of Skies of Arcadia before that contest, so I had no clue why people thought it'd be more popular than Shenmue, which was at least a big title at one point in time. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:32:33 PM | message detail |
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I'll agree with you though. I have no idea how in the world it only
doubled FFTA (and I think it had the lowest vote total of the entire
contest, beside...what else? FFTA/FE). I suppose it's one of those
"It's not as hated as we think it is" games. Still, Division 128 had a good deal of parity. No game really "impressed" me as far as establishing itself to be a frontrunner with ANY of its performances. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:32:47 PM | message detail |
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I know a lot more about SOA than I do Shenmue, though I'm of the
opinion that comparing two entrants based on their performance against
fodder is a bad idea. (Tifa/Vincent, anyone?) still, 66% against FFTA?
either FFTA has a serious fanbase that I don't know about or that's
pretty pitiful. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:33:49 PM | message detail |
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Well, it's even sadder to think that, if FFX didn't SFF it, it would do even better against the likes of TWW or SSBM. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:34:52 PM | message detail |
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And come on, comparing performances on fodder isn't THAT bad...CATS predicted the winner of SC2K3 and SC2K4... --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:35:08 PM | message detail |
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FFTA did sell really well and received a ton of
high scores from reviews on the Internet. I'm sure the haters are
really vocal, but I imagine it has a lot of people who enjoy it too. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:35:20 PM | message detail |
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Still, Division 128 had a good deal of parity. No game really
"impressed" me as far as establishing itself to be a frontrunner with
ANY of its performances. I agree with this, but mostly because all of them were so close in strength. if you assume that Starcraft's wins were legit, there were something like 6 games that were right next to each other strength-wise and then GTA:VC and MGS2 both got over 40% on SSBM. speaking of which, I forgot GTA:SA when making my little list up there. it probably belongs up there. --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:35:52 PM | message detail |
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FFX beat Shenmue like LoZ:WW beat Skies of Arcadia, arguably the best
GBA RPG was doubled by it, and it barely lost to SSBM "with the most
unfair match-pic in GameFAQs history." Hardly disappointing, and it
doesn't hurt nowadays that FFX was #12 while FF3/6 was #10 and FF8 was
#17. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:37:51 PM | message detail |
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Heh. People are going to hate this, but the average score of all the reviews for FFTA came out to 88%. FFT came out to 83%. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:38:16 PM | message detail |
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Depending on how you feel, you may have forgotten Goldeneye, too. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:38:40 PM | message detail |
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I implore you to name me some other GBA rpgs. :) I don't dislike FFTA
either, I just expect the biggest RPG of this generation to be able to
take down a handheld RPG with ease. I guess you can say that SRPG and
RPG are exclusive fanbases along with them being on different consoles,
but there has to be some overlap there. --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:39:43 PM | message detail |
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Basically, if StarCraft is legit, the top 5 games of Division 128 are
within one percent of each other. The next five are within about two
percent of each other. And all of them are above/within shooting distance of the original LoZ and Super Mario World. Speaking of SMW, getting outdone by the original SMB might have been the biggest shocker on the top 100 games list. Where does it rank? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:40:23 PM | message detail |
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Goldeneye was the next one on my list there. after that, probably RE4 or one of the 3d Zeldas. making that list made me wonder about Majora's Mask/SM64, too. I can't get SM64/OOT out of my mind today for some reason. --- xyzzy |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:40:56 PM | message detail |
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I'm not sure where I would put SMB, but I would imagine it would rank pretty high up there. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:41:09 PM | message detail |
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I should be a little clearer with my question. Where does SMB rank in the stats? --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:41:20 PM | message detail |
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Not just different consoles, not just by different companies, but that
was a SRPG on a Nintendo handheld against an RPG on a Playstation
console. I agree there should be some over-lap, but I think some are
expecting too big of a beating for it. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:43:02 PM | message detail |
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SMB...I say it barely beats LoZ. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:43:18 PM | message detail |
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both Mario World and Mario 64 are so weird.. I always expect them to do
better than they do. I thought CT would beat Mario 3 pretty soundly
just because I couldn't believe that 10% of the voting population had
SMB3 > CT > SMW, but apparently they do. Mario World did pretty
badly on The List too, though that may be because it had to compete
with big brother Mario 3. --- xyzzy |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:45:29 PM | message detail |
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give me Z1 over Mario 1...I don't have a real reason to argue either
way, but Zelda 1 just seems like it should be stronger. *shrugs* --- xyzzy |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:45:52 PM | message detail |
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...I was still expecting Mario 3 to win that match going into it. It is
still a big favorite with a lot of people, even after these many years
(the list testifies to that). --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:45:57 PM | message detail |
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Barely beating LoZ sounds pretty reasonable to me. If not, just around that general area sounds good. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:49:38 PM | message detail |
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I always had the feeling that whoever won between CT and LoZ:LttP would
beat SMB3...I just had to pick LoZ:LttP. Anyway, yeah, people can
distinguish between games -- even to that degree. If only they'd
distinguish that SM64 and SMW are both better than SMB3..... --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:52:08 PM | message detail |
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Wrong on both counts, my friend. Mario 3 > Mario World > Mario is Missing > Luigi's Mansion > Mario 64 ...Okay, I'm not being serious with that list. Switch Mario is Missing with Luigi's Mansion. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:53:16 PM | message detail |
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I think you meant to say: FF10 > FFMQ > FFLegend > FF:CC > FF8 --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:53:54 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I almost forgot that Super Mario Sunshine should have made the contest, not to mention rank ahead of SMB3. You think I'm kidding..... --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:54:00 PM | message detail |
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Nope, I don't QUITE think that's what I meant, unless you meant to put FFIX instead of FFVIII. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 8:54:38 PM | message detail |
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Luigi's Mansion > Super Mario Sunshine I ain't kiddin' either. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:54:55 PM | message detail |
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Sticking in FFIX instead would make that inequality perfect. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 8:56:35 PM | message detail |
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Outside of disappointing for being "THE" launch game to get (SSBM
doesn't count, remember that), I had little-to-no problem with Luigi's
Mansion. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:57:12 PM | message detail |
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Luigi's Mansion was pretty cool, but not that cool. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/4/2006 8:58:20 PM | message detail |
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Outside of disappointing for being "THE" launch game to get (SSBM
doesn't count, remember that), I had little-to-no problem with Luigi's
Mansion. Don't diss Rogue Squadron, foo! Disco Dancing Vader FTW! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| transcience | Posted 6/4/2006 8:59:16 PM | message detail |
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Disco Dancing Vader FTW! this has convinced me to go to bed. night, y'all. --- xyzzy |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 8:59:47 PM | message detail |
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I bought Rogue Squadron only because it looked awesome at the time. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 9:00:09 PM | message detail |
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Thus, my quotation marks. I'd probably call Pikmin my favorite launch game, though Luigi's Mansion was fun for afew runs too. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 9:00:13 PM | message detail |
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Well, for a big Mario title, Sunshine was a big disappointment. Other
than the Mecha Bowser fight on the rollercoaster (which I admit was
awesome), I wasn't overly impressed. Of course, Bowser Jr.'s presence has a tendency to bring down everything around it, so that could be a problem. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 9:02:40 PM | message detail |
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I know I'm not part of the cool crowd for saying this, but I didn't
like the roller coaster fight much. Those classic old-school'ish
mini-levels without the water-pack and exploring the ways the
water-pack could be used to accomplish stuff were the things that made
it for me. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 6/4/2006 9:03:58 PM | message detail |
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I still wished Nintendo would have released a separate game made
entirely of those levels. Add more variety, make the backgrounds
cooler, have a flag or something at the end, have more enemies and
those levels would have made a fantastic game. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 6/4/2006 9:05:21 PM | message detail |
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You're already not part of the cool crowd, so no worries about endangering your status there. I don't know. The game just left me feeling dissatisfied. I didn't even bother going back to try to get all of the Shine sprites. And that last boss fight sucked so much, followed by an ending that had me shaking my head. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/4/2006 9:09:39 PM | message detail |
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I never expect much from Mario-endings. The two biggest draw-backs were
not having a more satisfying bonus for getting all the Shines and (and
this is probably why I wanted a more satisfying bonus) getting all
those damned blue coins so you could get all the Shines. Many/most
weren't a problem...but some were nothing short of ridiculous to
find/get. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 6/4/2006 9:10:03 PM | message detail |
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I don't know why Super Mario Sunshine gets so much flak. I think it's
much better than Super Mario 64. I've already stated many times that I
find SM64 a bit lacking. It's technical revolution into 3D gaming seems
to carry it a bit more than it should as a game overall. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 6/4/2006 9:12:04 PM | message detail |
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I wasn't expecting much either, but at least previous Mario games didn't have something utterly lame like that. Plus, they changed Bowser's voice. That ticked me off, too. I was also disappointed when they changed DK's voice. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |