GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 285
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| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/28/2006 9:54:12 PM | message detail |
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SF64, Goldeneye, and Mario Kart were pretty much the only games tiding
N64 owners over during the two-year stretch between Mario 64 and OoT.
The fanbase is definitely there. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/28/2006 9:55:56 PM | message detail |
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I would be pretty confident in Star Fox 64 over Doom, myself. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Some bloodlines must come to an end. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/28/2006 10:16:41 PM | message detail |
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"Can you really see Doom scoring 57% on any Starfox game?" Yep, all but one of them in fact, and without question. Then again, D3 was only months away from release at the time, if hype can be believed in then you may need to take that into consideration. Of course, we do have to consider that Fox himself doesn't look like he gets much benefit from SF64 anymore. And that was, well, two to three years ago. He really hasn't got any reason to be stronger than Ness that does't fall under the same "common sense" rules that have cost many of us points when it came to Ness. These are essentially the same "common sense" rules that casuals used to take MC over Crono even though Crono has shown year after year that he's always in the upper 10% of any given field. Don't let yourself get confused on the difference between GF and the general gaming public. They are not the same. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 10:33:42 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't consider Doom 3 hype in it, but some may...so whatever I suppose. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 10:37:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm still confused by Doom's position in The List - it was something like #31. I didn't expect to see it in the top 50 at all. --- xyzzy |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 5/28/2006 11:13:40 PM | message detail |
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DKC vs Star Fox 64 is a head-scratcher... honestly don't know which way
I'd swing there. But yeah, I'd take SF64 over Doom in a heartbeat. In other news, at least one site knows how to put up Best Series polls! Here are the results from an LL poll a couple days back: Best Nintendo Franchise? Super Mario 30.05% 561 The Legend of Zelda 42.64% 796 Mother (Earthbound) 5.68% 106 Metroid 6.48% 121 Kirby 3.48% 65 Pokémon 8.36% 156 Donkey Kong 1.07% 20 Star Fox 2.25% 42 TOTAL VOTES 1867 Results seem in line with what I'm expecting to see in the upcoming site-wide Contest. Zelda's still king of the hill, but Mario should be able to keep it closer than he would in a straight Link/Mario poll. Metroid, as always, gets NSFFed into the ground, Fox and DK are barely noticeable, and the hardcore following for Earthbound and Pokemon result in fairly respectable showings. --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 12:25:18 AM | message detail |
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Almost 200 posts yesterday. Looks like we're getting back in form. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| bigkevinm84 | Posted 5/29/2006 12:31:39 AM | message detail |
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Bracket?....... BRACKET?!!............. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO A BARREL ROLL! --- Nominate Fox McCloud for 2006! and support Yoshi! You have no chance to survive make your time. |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/29/2006 12:41:38 AM | message detail |
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Heh, even LUE picks EB > SF And Tranny, you should believe it, the game DID beat EB fairly solidly and proved it's a pretty decent competitor. I mean, considering how EB and Doom did in 2k4, they look like they're right where they should be. Now, if only we could find a Star Fox game on that list... --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| transience | Posted 5/29/2006 12:52:30 AM | message detail |
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SF wasn't even on the drop-down list (I don't think), so I'm not
surprised it's not there. I'd take SF64 over Doom.. Doom over the rest
of the SF series though. Doom is above a lot of games that would annihilate it in a contest setting though.. CC, Vice City, MGS2, Wind Waker, etc etc. I didn't know people still cared about Doom... --- xyzzy |
| Lopen | Posted 5/29/2006 2:47:05 AM | message detail |
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Doom's pretty underrated by this board. I would take Doom over any Star
Fox game (save 64) without thinking, just like I did with Earthbound.
Even Star Fox 64 I could see getting upset in that match. I wouldn't
take the upset, but I wouldn't count Doom out. Doom's got lasting
appeal, no doubt. The Rock's movie would also give it a monster boost I'd imagine. --- Raiden is still [!!] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27664244 |
| jonthomson | Posted 5/29/2006 6:04:14 AM | message detail |
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Doom would beat any Star Fox game, although I am a huge Doom fanboy </spc2k4 sm over doom in last 16 lolz> --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 6:25:31 AM | message detail |
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I hope for your sake you were relatively new here, because that's the
only thing that can excuse having FF6 lose to Doom of all games... ;) --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| Prometheus321 | Posted 5/29/2006 7:46:59 AM | message detail |
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Dang, I thought with all these posts the bracket was up. :( --- "My name is Reggie, I'm about kickin' ass, I'm about takin' names, and we're about makin' games." - Reggie Fils-Aime |
| voltch | Posted 5/29/2006 9:17:13 AM | message detail |
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why the wait. a spring contest in summer? --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| Applause Sign | Posted 5/29/2006 9:17:40 AM | message detail |
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A summer contest in fall?! THIS IS KWAY-ZEE! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tai | Posted 5/29/2006 9:22:58 AM | message detail |
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Go to sites like NewDoom, Doomworld, Zdoom, Zdaemon, etc. If you
actually look, you'll see some people after more than a decade still
care about Doom. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation! Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 5/29/2006 10:11:51 AM | message detail |
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Doom's still got a huge following; remember that it nearly went all the
way in Gamespy's Best Game Contest a couple years back (lost to
finalist Mario 3 by just a couple votes). Granted, that's a different
userbase then GameFAQs, but the pounding of EB shows it's not all that different. --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| swirIdude | Posted 5/29/2006 10:52:52 AM | message detail |
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So what are all of the major games that came out between the last
summer contest and the upcomming summer contest that will have an
influence on this summer? Obviously there's KHII and NSMB, but what
else? --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 11:17:00 AM | message detail |
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Well, there have been tons of DS games since last year
(Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Sonic Rush, Metroid Prime Hunters). As I
said before, no one single DS game is going to make a significant
impact, but combined they should have kept an constant influx of
Nintendo fans on the site since last summer. MGS3:Subsistence also has
kept a sustained Metal Gear presence on this site, in addition to MGS4
and SSBB buzz. And then there's the legions of other things Square has
been doing besides KH2 (Advent Children, etc.). On a side note, people also do come on sites like GameFAQs to talk about gaming. There doesn't exactly have to be a new release to get gamers on the site. I really think an event like E3 can have an effect on the contest, since the summer contest is usually held right after it. The various effects it has is debatable though... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/29/2006 11:21:38 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, but E3 is OLD'D now. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Guess how many teens | Posted 5/29/2006 11:23:48 AM | message detail |
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So who are we going to kill if there's no bracket tomorrow? --- There are 2 rules to being a success in life: 1. Never give out all the information. |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 11:33:17 AM | message detail |
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CJayC's cats. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 12:23:43 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but E3 is OLD'D now. People are still on here talking about it though. Look at the Super Smash Bros. Brawl board. It has just as much activity as the KH2 board, and it's nowhere near release right now. Of course, it doesn't count for people coming to the site to check on FAQs like a standard release would, but as far as the site's everyday message board population goes, E3 definitely has an impact. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Tai | Posted 5/29/2006 1:20:15 PM | message detail |
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PS3's price will be talked about for a long time coming.... --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=579987 - Wanna report a TOS violation! Go to Snack Attack and we can help! |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 1:22:24 PM | message detail |
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Poor Kaz. That's gonna follow him for the rest of his life. Damn their
"it's a bargain even if you don't really need it" philosophy. --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 1:24:40 PM | message detail |
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Heh. Kaz pulled an anti-Reggie. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 1:25:56 PM | message detail |
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Kaz is the anti-Reggie. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Big Bob | Posted 5/29/2006 1:26:38 PM | message detail |
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| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 1:26:49 PM | message detail |
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DAMN YOU BLAZER! *Gets into car and drives off a cliff* --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 1:27:15 PM | message detail |
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So here's this BIG DAMN ENEMY CRAB... ...yeah, when we get this board, it's time for a bracket. --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| Big Bob | Posted 5/29/2006 1:27:26 PM | message detail |
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Since e3, maybe some people decided to nominate Riiiiiiiiiiiidge Racer! --- Nominate in the Tournament of Fodder! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=28246731 |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 1:27:51 PM | message detail |
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HAW HAW --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 1:27:55 PM | message detail |
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Well, they certainly decided to buy Genji. #9 in the US for the week following E3. --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 1:40:34 PM | message detail |
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REAL-TIME WEAPON CHANGE! That was the killer for me. You can be enthusiastic about the graphics of a rhino. You can hype up fighting gigantic enemies. You can laud about how realistic Gran Turismo looked. But who the hell in Sony's marketing team thought that "real-time weapon change" was something noteworthy? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 2:34:09 PM | message detail |
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Since I'm in the mood for discussion, I'll post what I just posted on
the four pack board about a four pack involving MGS/GTA//Chrono/SSB.
Also warming up for the analysis crew. =P - Chrono > GTA - I guess I'm in the minority huh? I'm not sold on MGS being the fourth strongest series on this site. I think that people are putting a little too much stock in it as a series. I don't think the series as a whole would put it that much higher in strength than it's most popular game, at least in a contest setting. I really don't think it would beat any of the other 3. Since I'm in a generous mood: Explanations! - First, a quick explanation on my not thinking MGS as a series will do that much more for it than its strongest individual game. There are two ends of the spectrum when it comes to series. On one end, you have a series like Final Fantasy which has many games that have distinct fanbases, so its strength would increase. On the other end, you have a series like Devil May Cry which has the same fanbase for all of its games (you don't see a DMC fanbase vs. a DMC3 fanbase), so the series is probably as strong as its most popular game. MGS lies in between those two, and I think it is closer to DMC than it is to FF. Sure, there are opinions on what game is better, but you aren't going to find too many people that like one game and don't care for another at all (at least when relatively compared to a series like FF). So yeah, there's my thoughts on that. - Chrono: Chrono Trigger is still the 3rd most popular game on this site. That holds far more weight than anything the other three can throw at it to me. It outperformed SSBM and MGS against FFVII, and that's not accounting for SFF. And you would think that Chrono Trigger would share more of a fanbase with FFVII than MGS. Then add in that Chrono Cross isn't exactly a slouch in it's own regard, even though it's not talked about much anymore. Throw in the fact that this is still an RPG dominated site. I don't see any of these series beating Chrono when it has a solid RPG fanbase on this site. - SSB: We've seen SSBM beat MGS2 about 57-43. As I said before, I don't think MGS as a series will make that much of a difference in its strength. Then there's The Boost, and the presence of more Nintendo fans on the site. Lastly, SSBB seals the deal. I think the Smash Bros series has become slightly more popular after that, with the buzz about who's going to be in the next. The original SSB is an afterthought, as SSBM completely overlaps it (think of a bowl being placed inside of a bigger bowl). SSB may be liked more by some, but I don't think there is a SSB fan who is not a fan of SSBM. But Melee itself is popular enough to give the series legs. It already beat representatives of MGS and GTA. I think it would take those two as a series in close matches. It doesn't beat Chrono though. - GTA: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City outperformed Metal Gear Solid 2 directly against SSBM. San Andreas trumps Vice City in popularity and beat MGS3 in the PS2 Game of the Year poll. San Andreas also finished only 3 spots behind Metal Gear Solid on the Best Game Ever list, which speaks volumes for something that is "only" supposed to be a game that appeals to casual. All evidence points to the GTA fanbase on this site being larger than the MGS fanbase. I think GTA barely edges MGS (we've never seen how GTA fares against MGS head-to-head. Fans of both may prefer MGS, so by all means it's not a given.) - Chrono > SSB > GTA >= MGS Disagree with me please. You know you want to. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 2:34:53 PM | message detail |
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Other than 599 US dollars, that was also my biggest "o__O" moment. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 5/29/2006 2:37:46 PM | message detail |
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lol Ridge Racer --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| jonthomson | Posted 5/29/2006 2:39:44 PM | message detail |
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I hope for your sake you were relatively new here, because that's
the only thing that can excuse having FF6 lose to Doom of all games...
;) I was still at a donkish stage in making predictions then. I figured the whole FF > all thing started at number 7, and it's not like Doom is unknown. At least I got FF7 winning right, which is more than some did :-) --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| Gooper Blooper | Posted 5/29/2006 2:40:45 PM | message detail |
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That was the killer for me. You can be enthusiastic about the
graphics of a rhino. You can hype up fighting gigantic enemies. You can
laud about how realistic Gran Turismo looked. But who the hell in
Sony's marketing team thought that "real-time weapon change" was
something noteworthy? Listen to him say it on the five minutes version (It's called "Sony's Embarrassing E3 Conference" or something to that effect). He starts by saying how many awesome new features they've added, but then he stumbles and goes "uh" and "um" for a good 3-4 seconds before coming up with "real time... weapon change?" He got too deep in the spiel before realizing that he was sorta lying. In other words: There's nothing new in Genji 2. lol rhyme I maintain that Genji 2 will be the Snakes On A Plane of videogaming. Everyone will love it because of its stupidity. --- People are going to buy two machines. They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii... for the price of one PS3. - Peter Moore |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/29/2006 2:42:07 PM | message detail |
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We've seen SSBM beat MGS2 about 57-43. As I said before, I don't
think MGS as a series will make that much of a difference in its
strength But I think it'd be a little silly to think that the original couldn't do better, and then you're getting quite close with the series as a whole perhaps indeed being able to swing it. Plus, the SSBB trailer was as huge as it was because of...guess who? Solid Snake. Without him, the trailer would not have been anywhere near as big of a deal. Nobody was going to get excited over Meta-Knight or Wario since they were expected. Nobody's going to get excited over Pit because most people don't know who he is. Most people aren't going to get excited about the idea of Samus without the suit. Solid Snake shocked people. THAT gave the trailer the impact that it did. Plus, Solid Snake's series had a pretty big trailer of its own. Either way, I've always thought this board gives Smash Brothers way too much credit for its impact, and I don't feel like arguing about it. I think the series will disappoint based on board expectations. Granted, they're all capable of beating Metal Gear. I just think SSB will end up being the weakest of these four. I said before that I thought Metroid would end up being the most overhyped, but I think I'll have to change my mind here. I don't think Metal Gear will end up as the #4 series either, just so you know. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 5/29/2006 2:43:34 PM | message detail |
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...Were STILL talking about Melee vs MGS2? >_> --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 2:43:34 PM | message detail |
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I'll be frank: when I made that bracket, I literally went at random as for which one would be the fourth 1-seed. --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| MHBFMP | Posted 5/29/2006 2:46:15 PM | message detail |
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At least I got FF7 winning right, which is more than some did :-) Everyone knew that Contra should have won the entire thing. It just got screwed by CJayC. Somehow... --- - "ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune ^5 SOWL IMHO - Explicit Content |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/29/2006 2:47:15 PM | message detail |
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I put Mario 3 winning because I was biased. Man, I realized that I've picked the correct winner of a contest ONCE, and that was the time it was so blatantly obvious (Sp2K5). --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| jonthomson | Posted 5/29/2006 2:49:58 PM | message detail |
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We all know Contra should have won the whole thing. It just used up all
of its lives in an early round when nobody remembered to put in the
Konami code. --- Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, Johnny Rocketfingers, two TBA |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/29/2006 2:51:37 PM | message detail |
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Plus, the SSBB trailer was as huge as it was because of...guess who?
Solid Snake. Without him, the trailer would not have been anywhere near
as big of a deal. Nobody was going to get excited over Meta-Knight or
Wario since they were expected. Nobody's going to get excited over Pit
because most people don't know who he is. Most people aren't going to
get excited about the idea of Samus without the suit. Solid Snake
shocked people. THAT gave the trailer the impact that it did But it wasn't Snake himself that really generated the buzz over the game. It was the fact that they added a popular third party character. People all over are now talking about who else could possibly be in the game. I think that definitely helps Super Smash Bros. more than it does Metal Gear. Had it been Sonic or Mega Man added in the trailer, SSBB would have still gotten the same buzz it has. It was just convenient for you to counter that Snake himself was in the trailer, and you know it. ;) --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/29/2006 2:54:48 PM | message detail |
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I've got a question for everyone. Throughout the past couple of days,
I've been hearing a lot comments on Super Smash Bros. being "overrated"
or "given too much credit." Also, people have been claiming that "this
is nothing new." Pray tell, other than the Fall Top 100, which was a very unique "contest," when was the last time SSB or anything from SSB disappointed people in a contest setting? --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/29/2006 2:55:37 PM | message detail |
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Samus blowing it against... oh crap. Forget I said anything. ;) --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/29/2006 2:55:48 PM | message detail |
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But it was still Solid Snake who got them buzzing, and really, other
than Kirby using the Cooking Pot on Mario, the trailer was rather
ho-hum. Sure, it started up talk about what other characters could be in it, but the first thing that was ever talked about or the headline of every article after the trailer was something to the effect of "SOLID SNAKE IN SSBB! WHOA!!!!!!!!!" --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |