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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 285
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| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/28/2006 4:09:22 PM | message detail |
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If they don't want the game, I doubt the chances of them voting for the
series is very high. Madden is like... the sky or something. It's there
for everyone. Everyone knows about it. That doesn't mean anyone
necessarily thinks about it or likes it. In this case, of course, there
are actually many people who REALLY REALLY HATE the sky. Wow. I should get that published. It's just so deep. --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 4:14:29 PM | message detail |
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damn, the things I miss when I decide to go to bed. we had the "what's the fourth strongest series?" debate on H's board when nominations were posted (about four years ago, it seems), along with some nice MGS-GTA arguments. I personally think that MGS is the fourth strongest series, followed closely by SSB, Chrono and GTA. as for MGS SFF, there are three pieces of evidence: - FF7 destroying MGS - Sephiroth destroying Liquid Snake - MGS placing #8 last fall I believe MGS is the strongest in the series. the other two are pretty close, but I guess I give the edge to MGS3 based on The List. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 4:15:32 PM | message detail |
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oh, and was that poll taken around the time that the NFL/EA agreement
was announced? some of the "EA hate" could have come from that. --- xyzzy |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/28/2006 4:16:42 PM | message detail |
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SFF or not, I think Grand Theft Auto would take down Metal Gear Solid
in a poll. I don't think it's a stretch to consider SSB as the fourth
series. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM, Fire Emblem 7, Larussa 92 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 4:58:16 PM | message detail |
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Well, everyone loves to stretch SSB's power, so you could be stretching it. I personally don't see it being top 5 myself. Any SFF would go the way of MGS in a MGS/GTA matchup, I would think. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:09:44 PM | message detail |
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Ya know, SSB might be the fourth strongest...but then look at Chrono.
CT and SSBM are the biggest games of each series and CT > SSBM, both
are two-game series, and I wouldn't be surprised if CC and SSB weren't
far off from one-another. For kicks, since I also saw these three polls
when I skimmed (keep in mind the vote-totals and they are OLD)... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=362 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=31 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38 ...I'd like to see them face off in the second round with the winner facing GTA or MGS...or, hell, the winner of GTA/MGS would be bad-ass too. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 5:11:18 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Cross > Final Fantasy Tactics, eh? Oddly amusing. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:12:03 PM | message detail |
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Heh, that's why I posted it. Funny stuff. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/28/2006 5:13:07 PM | message detail |
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*nominates WWF Wrestlemania 2000 for the next game contest* --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 5:13:13 PM | message detail |
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Either way, it's a very old poll and should be disregarded in terms of
relevance to this contest, though this contest itself is rapidly
ceasing to be relevant. Twenty days. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 5:16:20 PM | message detail |
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I'd wager that Cross was brand new at the time. I like Cross a lot more
than the other people on this board, but there's no way it'd beat FFT. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 5:16:54 PM | message detail |
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(also, Xenogears > FFT, book it!) --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:19:38 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, agreed, though my point was to be that CC and SSB may not be so
far off. SSBM ain't much above LoZ:WW, and CC outranks both it and
LoZ:MM, a N64 game arguably stronger than SSB. CC was also a sequel to
the biggest game of its series while SSB is a prequel to the biggest
game of its series... ...I'm just saying Chrono/SSB would be a great series-match where I would take Chrono, is all. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transience | Posted 5/28/2006 5:21:22 PM | message detail |
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there are so many holes with that logic... for one, this place was
wayyyyyyyyyy more Square-dominated in 2000 than it is now. add the
Nintendo edge here, the fact that CC isn't new anymore, the sample size
of the poll, the age of the poll... SSB is way stronger than CC is.
(and I like CC more than SSB or SSBM!) --- xyzzy |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:36:01 PM | message detail |
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I realize it's faulty, I'm not trying to make it sound like it's a
perfect fit. CT > SSBM though, that much is certain. Once SSBM hit,
it seemed as if most people forgot about SSB...whereas there isn't that
same feeling about CT at all
when CC was released. The Top 100 List is simply something I mentioned
on top of it because I try to consider all aspects of the information
we have, and -- whether or not it fits in with contest-strength or not
-- CC outdid the past two LoZ games that were released on consoles
while CT is just under LoZ:OoT in both the Top 100 List and in
contest-strength (as well as being above SSBM, as already mentioned).
We know LoZ:WW was close to SSBM, and LoZ:MM/SSB could be debatable
just as N64 games... ...perhaps I should just shorten it to this: CC stands out more from the original Chrono game than SSB does from its series' biggest hit, and the best rep from Chrono beats the best rep from Super Smash Bros. Seeing as how they're both two-game series, that is a burden on SSB's shoulders, and it doesn't help when there are faint signs that CC > SSB, either. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 5:36:26 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=855 Heh, the original Kingdom Hearts wasn't that greatly anticipated around here, and look at the impact it had. Just a reminder not to take those KHII polls for TOO much. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=578 Just thought that was a humorous 3rd option, considering Board 8's feelings on that particular game. Looks like 1926 people were psychics... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=522 Chrono held its own fairly decent there as well, for what it's worth. Again, old poll. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 I know it's old, but...Super Mario challenge the Legend of Zelda? Heh, even Sonic had difficulty doing as well as that in the Sega poll, and its top competition was...Phantasy Star? Donkey Kong was quite pathetic in that poll, too. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=426 Poor souls, never knew what hit 'em. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=418 A fitting poll for around this time. How big would that second option be for the PS3? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=366 Hey, that's around the same time as the CC > FFT poll! Chrono over Final Fantasy? BOOK IT! For the record, that poll and the CC > FFT poll took place on 11/29/2000 and 11/25/2000, respectively. Chrono Cross was released on 8/15/2000, so around thre months before those polls. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 5:43:09 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=294 It's a slaughter! That was barely a month after Chrono Cross released. This should give us an idea of just how big of an impact "freshness" of a release can have. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=205 And because I can poke fun at myself, too. Man, 47.74% of those people must've been sorely disappointed. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Vile Requiem | Posted 5/28/2006 5:44:41 PM | message detail |
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Ah, time to sign up. 1 - UltimaterializerX 2 - Team Rocket Elite 3 - Ngamer64 4 - yoblazer33 5 - transience 6 - Heroic Mario 7 - Viviff 8 - silverkiller 9 - Undeniable 10 - Kaxon 11 - Applekidjosh 12 - HaRRicH 13 - Lopen 14 - Z1mZum 15 - Chinballz 16 - A World's Envy 17 - Zylothewolf 18 - greatone 19 - cavedog0 20 - DomaDragoon 21 - Big Bob 22 - Ed Bellis 23 - expaniol 24 - Buzzup 25 - Radix 26 - RPGuy96 27 - Dethwing 28 - soiledtrousers 29 - consolefreak 30 - SephirothG 31 - ExquisiteSamurai 32 - Dark115 33 - NewLib 34 - Draco1214 35 - jonthomson 36 - MegatokyoEd 37 - Voltch 38 - Lucid Faia 39 - Master Moltar 40 - KleenexTissue50 41 - red sox 777 42 - Mithrandir1331 43 - arkenaga 44 - Tai 45 - Mario Superstar 46 - neonreaper 47 - XxSoulxX 48 - SonicRaptor 49 - ChichiriMuyo 50 - OMG its Pale! 51 - dragoontheguy 52 - XIII is cool 53 - Shivan Reincarnated 54 - outback 55 - DarkLink89 56 - dethfdddddh 57 - Ayvuir 58 - Janus5000 59 - War13104 60 - andaca 61 - swirldude 62 - Explicit Content 63 - Meche313 64 - HeroicVivi 65 - FastFalcon05 66 - Tnote 67 - Yesmar 68 - Mac Arrowny 69 - MasterMage119 70 - King Morgoth 71 - Aprosenf 72 - Phediuk 73 - charmander6000 74 - Rufus Shinra 18 75 - Mister Mario 76 - Luis Sera89 77 - longbladeofhiko 78 - shadow8021 79 - Lieutenant Kettch 80 - RPGGamer0 81 - WiggumFan267 82 - MetaRidleyX 83 - chocoboslayer 84 - FFDragon 85 - GrapefruitKing 86 - Lagoona 87 - The CruelAngel 88 - Fett0001 89 - cyko 90 - Dunkeroo23 91 - Bobby200614 92 - Tediz247 93 - Samurai7 94 - Jman_GamerX8 95 - ps2rulezzz 96 - Dilated Chemist 97 - Guess how many Teens 98 - Prometheus321 99 - Steinershocker 100 - TheLivingDemon 101 - Tirofog 102 - TheRye 103 - Vile Requiem --- I will avenge those who have died. And the Empire will know remorse. -Ashe, FF XII |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:54:59 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 F-Zero gets owned again. There's just no way Captain Falcon gets any strength from his racing games -- he'll be the perfect example of how much strength a charismatic character can get from SSB/M..... *is now out to personally archive polls owning particular series* --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 5:56:25 PM | message detail |
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And to beat all, it barely beat Fire Emblem...in 2000 (as in a full
year before SSBM came out). Yikes, maybe Marth should have beat CF in
the NRT afterall. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/28/2006 5:57:32 PM | message detail |
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Or maybe Laguna should've beaten both of them... </bitterness> --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| rpgapzx | Posted 5/28/2006 6:05:44 PM | message detail |
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1 - UltimaterializerX 2 - Team Rocket Elite 3 - Ngamer64 4 - yoblazer33 5 - transience 6 - Heroic Mario 7 - Viviff 8 - silverkiller 9 - Undeniable 10 - Kaxon 11 - Applekidjosh 12 - HaRRicH 13 - Lopen 14 - Z1mZum 15 - Chinballz 16 - A World's Envy 17 - Zylothewolf 18 - greatone 19 - cavedog0 20 - DomaDragoon 21 - Big Bob 22 - Ed Bellis 23 - expaniol 24 - Buzzup 25 - Radix 26 - RPGuy96 27 - Dethwing 28 - soiledtrousers 29 - consolefreak 30 - SephirothG 31 - ExquisiteSamurai 32 - Dark115 33 - NewLib 34 - Draco1214 35 - jonthomson 36 - MegatokyoEd 37 - Voltch 38 - Lucid Faia 39 - Master Moltar 40 - KleenexTissue50 41 - red sox 777 42 - Mithrandir1331 43 - arkenaga 44 - Tai 45 - Mario Superstar 46 - neonreaper 47 - XxSoulxX 48 - SonicRaptor 49 - ChichiriMuyo 50 - OMG its Pale! 51 - dragoontheguy 52 - XIII is cool 53 - Shivan Reincarnated 54 - outback 55 - DarkLink89 56 - dethfdddddh 57 - Ayvuir 58 - Janus5000 59 - War13104 60 - andaca 61 - swirldude 62 - Explicit Content 63 - Meche313 64 - HeroicVivi 65 - FastFalcon05 66 - Tnote 67 - Yesmar 68 - Mac Arrowny 69 - MasterMage119 70 - King Morgoth 71 - Aprosenf 72 - Phediuk 73 - charmander6000 74 - Rufus Shinra 18 75 - Mister Mario 76 - Luis Sera89 77 - longbladeofhiko 78 - shadow8021 79 - Lieutenant Kettch 80 - RPGGamer0 81 - WiggumFan267 82 - MetaRidleyX 83 - chocoboslayer 84 - FFDragon 85 - GrapefruitKing 86 - Lagoona 87 - The CruelAngel 88 - Fett0001 89 - cyko 90 - Dunkeroo23 91 - Bobby200614 92 - Tediz247 93 - Samurai7 94 - Jman_GamerX8 95 - ps2rulezzz 96 - Dilated Chemist 97 - Guess how many Teens 98 - Prometheus321 99 - Steinershocker 100 - TheLivingDemon 101 - Tirofog 102 - TheRye 103 - Vile Requiem 104 - rpgapzx |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 6:11:56 PM | message detail |
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I'm all for Laguna making it in, but I'm not going to support both him
and Seifer...one or the other, not both, and Seifer had/has a rally
going on alongside an appearance in KH2, so that's where I'll probably
stay. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| TheKeyofDestiny | Posted 5/28/2006 6:13:15 PM | message detail |
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Well, I only say Laguna because he actually made it into the final group. Though Captain Falcon did knock off Seifer, if I recall. --- "You make a good other." |
| Dekar TKB | Posted 5/28/2006 6:18:11 PM | message detail |
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"http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525 F-Zero gets owned again. There's just no way Captain Falcon gets any strength from his racing games -- he'll be the perfect example of how much strength a charismatic character can get from SSB/M..... *is now out to personally archive polls owning particular series*" Are you saying that Fox doesn't get strength from Star Fox? o_O. Just because it's no one's favorite series doesn't mean no one likes it. I mean, I love them, but I wouldn't have voted for F-Zero there, either. --- Chief of Patrol in Sir Chris' police force DA! Captain Falcon for Sc2k6! www.rpgdl.com |
| TheKeyofDestiny | Posted 5/28/2006 6:23:40 PM | message detail |
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I personally don't think Fox is much more than a low midcarder anyway.
He got tripled by Cloud BEFORE Kingdom Hearts. That's hardly impressive. --- "You make a good other." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 6:26:31 PM | message detail |
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Fox is much more to Star Fox than Captain Falcon is to F-Zero. Debate? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| TheKeyofDestiny | Posted 5/28/2006 6:27:25 PM | message detail |
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Man, I still remember the old Master Hand > Falco debates. Those were good times. --- "You make a good other." |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:28:08 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, he got tripled by Cloud before KH, but that doesn't mean
anything, right? After all, he's only the main character from the most
popular game on this website. But hey, without KH, he's nothing right? In theory, I would expect Fox to be pretty close to around Kirby's strength... I don't see why he wouldn't be. But then again, I would also expect Donkey Kong to be able to beat the stuffing out of Samus or Solid Snake, so that goes to show how much "in theories" from me are worth. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:29:16 PM | message detail |
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A tripling by Cloud before Kingdom Hearts would put Fox around where I said I think he is: A low midcarder. Again, hardly impressive in terms of strength. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:30:55 PM | message detail |
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Never put too much emphasis on X-Stats. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:32:25 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, because head-to-head matchups are meaningless. Either way, I haven't seen much from Fox to warrant him being much more than that anyway, other than theories. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:34:36 PM | message detail |
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Er... I'm not quite sure I understand what that first part is supposed
to mean... But if it helps, head-to-heads and X-Stats represent two
different things to me. And to be fair, Fox hasn't had a really telling crack yet. SFF'd by Link... chewed up by Cloud... I can't quite bring myself to believe that we've seen all that Fox has to offer. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/28/2006 6:35:17 PM | message detail |
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I personally don't think Fox is much more than a low midcarder
anyway. He got tripled by Cloud BEFORE Kingdom Hearts. That's hardly
impressive. Yes, because 2k2 is entirely credible with matches involving popular characters like Cloud that still drew less than 75,000 votes. Servbot would dispatch Fox and the likes of Bomberman and Raziel would easily rip him a new one, right? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 6:36:23 PM | message detail |
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Yeah yeah, I over-estimated MH -- guess who he still beat though. =P In theory, I would expect Fox to be pretty close to around Kirby's strength... I don't see why he wouldn't be. Just trust me, and know he wouldn't. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:37:29 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. Like I said, my "in theories" aren't worth a lot. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:39:39 PM | message detail |
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I never said the 2002 stats in and of themselves were credible, but I
personally find a matchup against Cloud to be credible (with the
exception of Mario, but there were several extenuating well-known
circumstances at work). Honestly, I don't think bringing up the "It only drew 75,000 votes" argument is valid here. How often do we see the percentage drastically change in a blowout from votes 75,000 to 100,000? --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:41:16 PM | message detail |
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And for what it's worth, I suppose I could discredit the results of most the games contest due to crappy vote totals as well. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 6:41:41 PM | message detail |
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In Fox's favor though, he did stomp the hell out of Pikachu in 2k3
before getting SFF'd by Link...then, since then, he's has two releases
(one outside of his general genre, though I hear it essentially sucked)
and may have a part of the Nintendo Boost from last year. He's still be
a mid-carder, yeah, I don't don't know if "low-midcarder" would still
fit for him. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:43:08 PM | message detail |
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Whomping on Pikachu is hardly an accomplishment, especially with
potential (and in my opinion, almost certain) SFF involved. I'd put Fox
around 22-23% on BL, which qualifies as low midcarder to me. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:43:44 PM | message detail |
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And Star Fox Adventures wasn't THAT bad, though it seems I'm in the minority there. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:44:32 PM | message detail |
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I wasn't around for 2002... and this isn't exactly relevant to the
current topic, but does it seem to anyone else that, with a few
exceptions (Mega Man should have been seeded higher for example, and
Donkey Kong), that the seedings that year were the closest thing
there's ever been to accurate seedings? And by "accurate", I mean
accurate in the sense the seedings represented how relevant to the
gaming industry in general each character was/is? Mario, Pac-Man and
such were top seeds for example, and those are probably the two most
relevant characters in all of video gaming. Now, contest strength wise were they accurate? No. But in terms of relevancy, with a few exceptions, they seem to have been pretty good. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2006 6:45:40 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, I don't think bringing up the "It only drew 75,000 votes"
argument is valid here. How often do we see the percentage drastically
change in a blowout from votes 75,000 to 100,000? For what it's worth, 20,273 votes very well could be the reason why you get to say Strider did better against Link than Scorpion. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:46:29 PM | message detail |
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Well, they were seeded with that in mind (though people weren't exactly
expecting some of those high seeds to be as pathetic as they were). --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| SquallidSnake | Posted 5/28/2006 6:47:42 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, 20,273 votes very well could be the reason why
you get to say Strider did better against Link than Scorpion. The difference would be fairly negligible, above or below. If it makes you feel better, we can say for all intents and purposes that they were equal. Either way you slice it, it doesn't make Scorpion look good. --- Some stories can't be told by words. Some legends are meant to die. Knowing your enemy is the quickest path to victory. |
| WilhuffTarkin | Posted 5/28/2006 6:47:50 PM | message detail |
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Yes, gaming industry relevance seems to not have much to do with
contest strength. Every top seed save for Mario lost to a #5 seed. --- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin Favorite game ever: Super Mario 64 |
| mr_BRIAN | Posted 5/28/2006 6:49:26 PM | message detail |
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| mr_BRIAN | Posted 5/28/2006 6:49:50 PM | message detail |
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And Mario almost did too. --- I know you love me... I wanna wad you up into my life... We may be Janus5000. But We may not be. We are not sure. |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/28/2006 6:50:38 PM | message detail |
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And you ignore the meat of my post. If you think that Fox would lose to
the likes of Servbot, Bomberman, and Raziel, I have some nice swampland
in Southwest Florida that I'd like to sell to you as well. It's pretty apparent by looking at other Nintendo stars that Fox is underrated based on his one match against Cloud, which is the only match we have to gauge him from. I definitely wouldn't say that Ness is more popular than Fox, and Ness himself is a low-midcarder. I see no reason why he wouldn't be able to compete with the likes of Yuna, Chun-Li, or Leon Kennedy. I'd put Fox near DK's popularity level myself. He's definitely not as popular as Kirby, but he definitely isn't a low mid-carder when you look at the likes of who is around that level. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Mega Mana | Posted 5/28/2006 6:51:37 PM | message detail |
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*insert stats and/or discussion here* --- Calling all Rabbits... "Being yourself is the best reason to live." - Naye |