GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 284
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| Applause Sign | Posted 5/22/2006 3:06:50 PM | message detail |
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HAMMAH TIME! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 3:07:40 PM | message detail |
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Too sold out, too sold out to quit! Man, haven't seen "In Living Color" in years, but I still remember that. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Kaxon | Posted 5/22/2006 3:21:30 PM | message detail |
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/not_emo/hamm.jpg (saw this on someone's livejournal) --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 5/22/2006 3:22:15 PM | message detail |
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Seen it befo, still pretty funny --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 3:22:56 PM | message detail |
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All nomination and no bracket make stat topic...something something. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Who Cares? | Posted 5/22/2006 3:30:11 PM | message detail |
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...go crazy?... --- Nominate Guilty Gear! Let's Rock! |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 3:31:00 PM | message detail |
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DON'T MIND IF I DO! --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 5/22/2006 3:32:33 PM | message detail |
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If the bracket isn't up by Wednesday, should someone complain to Ceej? --- Just Got Owned By Guru winner Voltch. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 3:49:03 PM | message detail |
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That's more people owning KH2 than an X360. I know Oblivion came out
on PC as well, but this is not at all a good sign for KH2. I've seen
plenty of people say that the arrival as KH2 has signified the KH
series coming into its own, or that KH2 is going to be far more
influential than its predecessor. Kingdom Hearts II is going to be very influential when it comes to contests; I do not see how that can be denied. I fully expect every Final Fantasy character who appeared in Kingdom Hearts II with any notable role at all to get some type of boost in the upcoming character contest. The poll today is getting looked at as some type of indicator of how influential Kingdom Hearts II will ultimately be ... and that's just foolish. It is still winning today's poll -- outside of the "Never played" option -- without too much trouble. Honestly, Oblivion is not some obscure title that has come along. It has sold extremely well on both the Xbox 360 and PC platforms. It was rated highly by every critic I can possibly think of. It should not be treated as some insignificant RPG, regardless of the fact that it is a Western RPG. It is also notable that there could be plenty of people that liked Kingdom Hearts II, but voted for Oblivion becuase they think it's better. Believe it or not, these people exist. I know a number of them here on the board that actually feel that way. I'm sure that extends well into other reaches of GameFAQs. This poll is not showing that KHII is not going to do what it was expected to do. We have seen its influence on this site already. We saw a general rise in nearly every Square title on the FAQ listing, we have seen it do well in polls (including today's), and we know how influential the first Kingdom Hearts game was. It should be clear that Kingdom Hearts II, along with various other Square releases, has had created an influx of Square fans. Given that this summer is completely dry on releases, Kingdom Hearts II should still be huge throughout. One more thing, Kingdom Hearts II does not need to be as influential and massive as Kingdom Hearts to affect these contests. If you look at every Final Fantasy character in the contest, you'll find that they need minor boosts in order to overcome the next "hump" set in front of them. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 3:49:19 PM | message detail |
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People are already complaining. Don't worry about that. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 3:49:56 PM | message detail |
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You know, I really thought today was the absolute last day we would have to wait for the bracket, but now ... --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| Fire | Posted 5/22/2006 3:54:49 PM | message detail |
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Well, to be fair, I expect we'll get the bracket somewhere from 8-10 PM EST whatever day we get it. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 5:02:57 PM | message detail |
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Right now would be really good! --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/22/2006 5:06:14 PM | message detail |
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Soooo.... if Ceej made this a 64-series bracket and delayed the character contest, would we be disappointed? --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Sir Auron | Posted 5/22/2006 5:07:58 PM | message detail |
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I would be beyond disappointed. That would just plain suck. --- "This is my story -- and you're not a part of it." -- Auron |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 5:17:38 PM | message detail |
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That would not be good. A series contest would be good with just 32. Beyond that, you get into a lot of fodder. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 5/22/2006 5:45:40 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't mind 64 series. But it seems that regardless, we'll have to
get used to thinking of the Character Battle as our Fall Contest. Ulti, think you could IM CJay tonight and get back to us with an update? Feedback tickets just aren't going to cut it at this point; he's still 300+ behind there, for goodness sake. --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 6:42:21 PM | message detail |
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Actually I really think you could avoid a lot of fodder in a 64 series tournament. Lets see: Nintendo: Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers, Star Fox, Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong Country, Pokemon Square: Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Seiken Densetsu, Chrono, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy Tactics Capcom: Mega Man, Mega Man X, Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Devil May Cry, Onimusha Konami: Metal Gear, Castlevania, Suikoden, Namco: Tales, Pac-Man, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Xenosaga Sega: Sonic, Virtua Fighter, Phantasy Star Blizzard: Diablo, Warcraft Others: Mortal Kombat, Elder Scrolls, Madden, Grand Theft Auto, Halo, Tomb Raider, Knights of the Old Republic, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, Tetris Thats 44 off the top my head and I worry about maybe 4 of those series being comple fodder. --- Where am I? |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 6:43:53 PM | message detail |
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But trying to push for 64 is going to result in a good bit of fodder,
and a lot of those entries aren't going to be anything special. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 6:50:13 PM | message detail |
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Hate to tell you, the character contest has a good bit of fodder. --- Where am I? |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 6:52:34 PM | message detail |
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I'm aware of that. Any contest will, but I don't really see much point of drawing this contest out beyond 32 entrants. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 6:54:36 PM | message detail |
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Im not saying there is a point. Im just saying a series contest wouldnt
have much more fodder than a character contest. I named at least 34-36
series right there that wouldnt be fodder. The last character contest
had about 30 characters that WERE fodder. That leaves 34 not being
fodder. --- Where am I? |
| VectorAgent | Posted 5/22/2006 6:55:57 PM | message detail |
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The entrants may be fodder, but at least they're fodder on the same
level. Maybe they would get blown away by someone who's just an
also-ran in the SCs, but against themselves, at least they provide
entertainment. That said, I also don't really think a game series contest should be over 32. I wanted a female contest, anyway. |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 6:58:50 PM | message detail |
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Besides, drawing out the nomination process this long is getting me disenchanted with the whole thing anyway. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Slowflake | Posted 5/22/2006 7:00:27 PM | message detail |
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Same here. I almost hope that when he remembers he started this thing, he goes "**** this" and moves on to the character battle straight away. --- Also, eat from garbage cans as much as possible, because nobody in America ever throws away anything that can make you fat. -MYC health tip |
| yoblazer33 | Posted 5/22/2006 8:08:42 PM | message detail |
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fedor is #1 --- Board 8: Where Wii treat each other right. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/22/2006 8:18:37 PM | message detail |
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I stand corrected on the involvement of CJay in SC/SSBM, but you may still take away 1,200-1,400 and my same point is made. If you look at the games that made the game contest, there's four from each matching up era to era, and it's not easy to split them. FF7 edges out OoT. LttP edges out FF3/6. Wind Waker is listed above FFX but I don't know why and I figure it'd lose in a direct match. The original Zelda is above the original FF. How do we factor in the other games? FF8 or Majora's Mask? Another early FF against Zelda 2? What could possibly be compared to Link's Awakening? So the newer (as is PS1/N64 and up) biggest FF titles beat the newer biggest LoZ titles. LoZ wins the battle of the older games against FF games of the same era. Considering the strongest title of each series is in the newer side and both FF and LoZ have a much bigger SNES game than an NES game, not to mention that stats suggest that a LoZ/FF (NES games) match would only go 53-47 in LoZ's favor, I hardly care to acknowledge their NES games in this battle. The two shadows of FF7 (FF8 and FF9) both outranked the one shadow of LoZ:OoT (LoZ:MM)... And I hate it when people use the "top 100" list as a means for arguing, you may as well say seed indicates what's going to happen if you do that. ...which leads me here. We know it's not the same way of measuring or the most accurate. However, several things need to be said. One, its scoring system is not the same as the nomination system. Two, it's the most recent significant source of contest strength we have available -- note that I didn't say guaranteed to be accurate in a head-to-head setting. Three, it shows us lots of games we didn't see in a contest setting. I think it's fair to say that, in the series contest, we can rule out whatever effect LoZ:MM may have for LoZ because both FF8 and FF9 (especially FF8) outdid LoZ:MM...and all three games are in the same generation and are in the shadow of their series' biggest game, so they got common places in gaming history; therefore, they are comparable. Nothing crazy. That's more people owning KH2 than an X360. I know Oblivion came out on PC as well, but this is not at all a good sign for KH2. I've seen plenty of people say that the arrival as KH2 has signified the KH series coming into its own, or that KH2 is going to be far more influential than its predecessor. Mac beat me to it. Sure, it's winning (and still gaining), but by no means is it impressive -- I would call Oblivion the "winner" of this poll before I would call KH2 the winner... ...that said, listen to HM: don't mistake it as not having an effect on the site. It's still the biggest game of the year so far here and other places, and don't think it won't do anything for the characters. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 5/22/2006 8:25:32 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I'd rather see a 64-bracket than a 32-bracket. I'd love to see
how many of the series here stack up, there'd be a lot less snubs, and
I don't like how close we were to perfect brackets in the Villain
Contest; we had to have an under-rated dark-horse from round one make
the Final Four and a crazy upset to prevent it, and we still got our
first zero-bracket and quite afew people who were one point off from
perfect. In a series contest, I would think it would be much more
difficult to have an upset or underdog of the same caliber...so, though
I cannot see it happening, I would like to see it be a 64-bracket
instead of a 32-bracket, fodder be damned. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 5/22/2006 8:33:29 PM | message detail |
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lol Tiebreaker Stats and Discussion --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 8:35:22 PM | message detail |
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Meh, the sooner we get to the character contest, the better. As I said
before, this contest is getting less and less exciting each day the
nominations stay up. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 8:46:10 PM | message detail |
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The immediate problem with a 64 entry bracket for the series contest is
that it just further delays the character battle. This contest is nice
and all, but I just see it as something to hold us over until the main
event gets here. Another problem is that I think it would be drawn out.
I'm not seeing many notable 'snubs' in a 32 series bracket. You get to
see all the popular entries, some of the less popular entries, and the
unpredictability of entire series is still there. Anything more just
seems pointless. That said, this ridiculously long nomination period, the lack of a bracket still, and the fact that we're getting so close to June is lowering my excitement and anticipation of this entire contest. I'm almost wanting to say skip this contest, give us nominations for the character battle, and then a bracket by the beginning of June. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 8:49:01 PM | message detail |
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Im going to laugh if the contest is delayed so much that the Link/Cloud match happens around when Twilight Princess comes out. --- Where am I? |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 8:55:23 PM | message detail |
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It would be rather humorous if the character contest was delayed enough
for both Final Fantasy XII and Twilight Princess -- along with next-gen
consoles -- to release. Summer/Fall/Winter Character Battle!! --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 8:58:22 PM | message detail |
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Personally I dont care about the delay to the character contest for
this reason alone, there have been hardly any games to have an affect
on it. The last year has been very dry of games. Kingdom Hearts II is
the only game that I can see having a huge effect of the contest. I
actually want the Character contest to take a year off, because really
we will be getting the same results except Cloud will beat Link and
Sora will be stronger. Everything else? The same. --- Where am I? |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 9:03:43 PM | message detail |
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After wanting to see the results of Kingdom Hearts II and Advent
Children in a Cloud/Link match, I in no way support any type of "year
off" for the character contests, especially for something like this. If
it were going to take a year off, the contest in its place had better
be a games contest, not some filler series contest. There has been plenty released to at least affect Square characters. Kingdom Hearts II will extend beyond Cloud and Sora. There was a Nintendo domination last year, but things would be much more even this year, making for a great contest. I think the results would ultimately be in favor of Square in matches between the two. No reason to skip it. The character contest next year will be even better, sure. You have a lot of big name games releasing -- Final Fantasy XII, Twilight Princess, potentially Metal Gear Solid 4 and Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and various others that will affect a number of the characters. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 9:06:30 PM | message detail |
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Actually if the Character contest was to take a year off, I replace it with the return of the Game contest. Really I think there should be rotation every year Even Years: Game Series (32)/ Game (64) Odd Years: Villans (32)/ Character (64) --- Where am I? |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 9:08:55 PM | message detail |
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I'm not too sure I'd want to see the series/villains contest ever
repeat themselves. They're nice one time deals, but nothing that I
think needs to be done multiple times. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 9:10:33 PM | message detail |
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Well once you get past those you run out of contests to be had. Female
contest is really the only other one I could see happening. --- Where am I? |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 9:13:54 PM | message detail |
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It would be ideal if CJayC would just hold one contest in the winter and one in the summer. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| NewLib | Posted 5/22/2006 9:15:03 PM | message detail |
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I agree with that too, but I also think holding a games contest every year would be even worst than a character contest. --- Where am I? |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 9:15:58 PM | message detail |
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because really we will be getting the same results except Cloud will beat Link Which is a good reason to have one this year. This will be the last contest for a while (until Square gets around to the FFVII remake) that Cloud/Link will actually be debatable. Plus, Dirge of Cerberus will release during the contest, which could be interesting if Vincent draws somebody like, say, Solid Snake or Bowser. Plus, I don't know if I want the Villains Contest to repeat itself. It was rather boring because there was just so much fodder. The Series Contest should be a little better as far as the amount of fodder is concerned, but it should probably stay a one-time deal as well. I'd like to see another Games Contest as well, but I don't want to miss out on the new batch of huge games coming out in 2007 by having it too early. That's the only setback to it I see, and I doubt Ceej will run it any other time besides Spring, and it would probably be a while before we saw another. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/22/2006 9:16:14 PM | message detail |
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Few points I wanted to touch on... HM- you're clearly forgetting to mention that KH1 isn't exactly a powerhouse around here. THAT didn't change the fact that I gave a lot to those FF characters. KH2 doesn't have to be GOTY to give a significant boost. HaRRicH- LoZ's final opponent was SMB3, if any non-Zelda game had a reason to SFF LoZ it'd be Mario 3. Let's not forget that. NewLib- You're just plain incorrect. There will be quite a few changes this year. At least as much as, and probably more than, from 2k4 to 2k5. The possibility for Cloud to win it all alone makes it worth running since he won't have another chance until FF7 is re-released. I don't even like Cloud that much, but I do like to see a contest where one character isn't absolutely dominant. But besides that fact, characters like Bowser, Ganon, Vincent and Squall could all have really good matches to play out... anyone one of those four could win a match against another right now, and they are steadily reaching for the lower-end of the N9 (since MM and Sonic haven't doesn anything to actually excite in awhile). --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 9:17:04 PM | message detail |
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You could always switch out the games contest with something different
if need be. I really have never had a problem with the character battle
running every year since 2002. It never lacks entertainment. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 5/22/2006 9:17:42 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Sonic has excited quite a few people with his showing at E3,
but in terms of actual releases, you're right. That'll change by next
year, however. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Roxas, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/22/2006 9:19:04 PM | message detail |
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I agree with HM, the usual Summer Contest is more than entertaining
enough for me, and I seem to be in the majority since the contest gets
more votes than PotD. That said, I also like to keep the other contests
special, they don't have to be run nearly as often and are better
served if they aren't. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/22/2006 9:20:25 PM | message detail |
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NG: I haven't seen Ceej on AIM in literally months. He only uses MSN
and his hidden AIM name these days, neither of which I'm privy to. The
former is because I despise MSN, I might add. I can't even get it to
work when I bother trying. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM, Fire Emblem 7, Larussa 92 |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 5/22/2006 9:21:03 PM | message detail |
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I don't count E3, it's not nearly as effective as an actual realease...
at least if you don't count mega-ton names like Halo, Zelda, Final
Fantasy or Metal Gear Solid. Those ones I think E3 hype does something,
but that's because there are already more people looking forward to
those titles to begin with. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/22/2006 9:21:05 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to see another Games Contest as well, but I don't want to
miss out on the new batch of huge games coming out in 2007 by having it
too early. That's the only setback to it I see, and I doubt Ceej will
run it any other time besides Spring, and it would probably be a while
before we saw another. I very much agree with this. There's a lot of really good games coming out between now and 2007, so having the games contest too early would definitely miss out on some really good stuff. --- “The human body is supposed to be 70 percent water. I consider myself 70 percent film.” – Hideo Kojima |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/22/2006 9:21:06 PM | message detail |
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Besides, Ceej is aware. People have been getting modded and contesting
it up to the admin level with contest complaints in the mod contests. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4, KH:COM, Fire Emblem 7, Larussa 92 |
| Kaxon | Posted 5/22/2006 9:24:59 PM | message detail |
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Although the nomination period has gotten really boring, I disagree
about skipping this contest. I think this contest is going to be the
most unpredictable one we've had since the games contest, while the
character battle is most likely going to be pretty predictable again. I
wouldn't mind if this one was a full bracket of 64 and the character
battle got pushed back... as long as he hurries up with starting this
one. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27379470 |