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SquallidSnake | Posted 5/12/2006 3:17:44 PM | message detail
Echoes? That game's been out for a while now and sold pretty badly. I think you mean Hunters.

MP3 is supposed to be a launch title though.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 3:18:29 PM | message detail
er, yeah, the DS one. my bad.

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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 3:18:52 PM | message detail
I think Samus gets a new Metroid. Granted MGS4 >>> MP3, but meh. Anyway, the only real argument that you have is Samus won't experience a boost from SSB:B as she's already appeared in the other ones, while Snake will experience a much larger one because not only has he not appeared in SSB:B, he hasn't been in an original game on a Nintendo console in years, or a fighting game. A game as huge as SSB:B will bring Snake to a whole hell of a lot new people.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/12/2006 3:19:46 PM | message detail
Let's see ... that's about 5% from a brand-new Metal Gear Solid game that came out of E3 as one of the most anticipated games, is likely to sell a ridiculous amount of copies when it releases, would be Solid Snake's return to the lead role in a few years, and, uh, looks absolutely phenomenal in every aspect. I dunno, it'd be a toughie!

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/12/2006 3:22:00 PM | message detail
Before I make a quick exit to go pick me up some food ...

also, remember that there's Echoes and MP3 to contend with, with MP3 probably coming out before SSB from what I've heard.

I will wager that Hunters, which I now know is what you're referring to, does not provide Samus with very much in the way of a boost. Metroid Prime 3 should help her out, too, but I will again wager that it is not anywhere near as significant as Metal Gear Solid 4 will be to Solid Snake. And I think it is sefl-explanatory on who is getting the largest boost from SSBB.

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dethfdddddh | Posted 5/12/2006 3:22:23 PM | message detail
What would the effect be if Snake does kill himself? Would it matter?
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SquallidSnake | Posted 5/12/2006 3:23:14 PM | message detail
Heroic Mario and I discussed what possible effect it would have if Snake dies in MGS4. I'd say it could only help, but how much? I dunno.
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 3:23:27 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Snake doesn't have to just outboost her, he has to outboost her by 5%.

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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 3:24:54 PM | message detail
The only way I see Snake killing himself is if he first kills Liquid... which I fully expect to happen, otherwise I could see him dying and Liquid not, just not him actually killing himself, so either way I think he's dying.

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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 3:24:55 PM | message detail
my opinion on the SSBB "boost" is that it will help Snake in matches that don't involve Nintendo characters. when it comes to Samus or Mario though, it'll be an entire series vs. an appearance in SSBB. I'll wager that the average Nintendo fan will stick with Metroid or Mario.

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 3:26:15 PM | message detail
Would Solid Snake boost if he died? Let me go ask somebody from F -- oh, she's dead, I can't.
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dethfdddddh | Posted 5/12/2006 3:26:24 PM | message detail
Unless Liquid being 'alive' is just a manipulation by Ocelot.

>_>
<_<

Speaking of Liquid, where do you put him at if he returns in 2k7?
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SquallidSnake | Posted 5/12/2006 3:27:15 PM | message detail
Let me go ask somebody from F -- oh, she's dead, I can't.

Do you think she'd be as popular if she hadn't died? I don't.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 3:30:19 PM | message detail
My point exactly.
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voltch | Posted 5/12/2006 3:35:57 PM | message detail
well at any rate we've come a long way since 2k2
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therealmnm | Posted 5/12/2006 3:40:47 PM | message detail
*avoids Solid Snake contest hype*
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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Kaxon | Posted 5/12/2006 3:41:56 PM | message detail
TP hype! Advent Children leak!
I just summarized an entire month of the stats topic.


Month? More like last three years!!

(Seriously, go look at the end of the SC2k3 stats topics and you can see people talking about what effect Advent Children will have on the contest).
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27379470
trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 3:42:42 PM | message detail
perhaps.. but people talked about other stuff, too!

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jonthomson | Posted 5/12/2006 3:54:02 PM | message detail
Complete the gaps:

Post-SSBB, Snake scores __% on Tanner.
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Jon Thomson - CATS, Jay Solano, Ridley, Scorpion, Alien Hominid, Duke Nukem, The Prince, three TBA
HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 4:01:27 PM | message detail
100.4
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 4:22:39 PM | message detail
If I were to make a "Snake Dies" account now, and then once MGS4 were released, it is discovered that Snake really does die, would I be banned?

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 4:24:00 PM | message detail
Perhaps, but you could make a case for yourself if you make it now.
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triviaman | Posted 5/12/2006 4:26:23 PM | message detail
why hello there!

*is cyko on borrowed account*

i could not have picked a worse time for my cpu to explode (it literally did have smoke coming out of it.....) - so, yeah i haven't been on GameFAQS for about two weeks. so here's my brief input -

- two summer contests? awesome. it does seem like Ceej picked a lousy time to introduce a contest, it must've been overshadowed by E3.

- Best Series Ever - outside of the big three (Zelda, Mario, FF) i think most series are going to perform about as well as their games did in Spring2K4. i dunno if anyone else posted this same opinion alrerady, but meh. it sure seemed like the 8-bit and most of the 16-bit games were voted upon based on their series recognition.

- E3 - Nintendo is quite possibly having the best E3 of any system. EVER. and that's before my fanboyism kicks in. >_>

- Snake in Smash Bros.! - i laugh because as soon as i heard that, i thought, "holy crap! Snake is definitely gonna get a boost in contest strength!!" then i realized that i am way too hooked on these contests. (c'mon, i know i'm not the only one who thought that.....) of course, most of any boost won't take place until '07. i do think the hype could help him a bit, but nothing too significant. but after SSBB and MGS4 come out, here's how i see the Noble Nine:

Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Mario
Solid Snake
Samus
Megaman
Sonic
Crono

that's right. if Chrono Trigger doesn't get re-released or get a sequel (which it very well could, knowing Square) and the rest of the Noble Nine moving into the next generation and exposure to new audiences, Chrono is going to become less and less well-known - especially as more younger gamers who wore born after CT was released wander to GameFAQS.

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triviaman | Posted 5/12/2006 4:29:58 PM | message detail
*still cyko*

hmph. after skimming some of the last topic, it looks like i'm pretty much just echoing the words of a lot of other people. ah, well. at least i found this:

1 - UltimaterializerX
2 - Team Rocket Elite
3 - Ngamer64
4 - yoblazer33
5 - transience
6 - Heroic Mario
7 - Viviff
8 - silverkiller
9 - Undeniable
10 - Kaxon
11 - Applekidjosh
12 - HaRRicH
13 - Lopen
14 - Z1mZum
15 - Chinballz
16 - A World's Envy
17 - Zylothewolf
18 - greatone
19 - cavedog0
20 - DomaDragoon
21 - Big Bob
22 - Ed Bellis
23 - expaniol
24 - Buzzup
25 - Radix
26 - RPGuy96
27 - Dethwing
28 - soiledtrousers
29 - consolefreak
30 - SephirothG
31 - ExquisiteSamurai
32 - Dark115
33 - NewLib
34 - Draco1214
35 - jonthomson
36 - MegatokyoEd
37 - Voltch
38 - Lucid Faia
39 - Master Moltar
40 - KleenexTissue50
41 - red sox 777
42 - Mithrandir1331
43 - arkenaga
44 - Tai
45 - Mario Superstar
46 - neonreaper
47 - XxSoulxX
48 - SonicRaptor
49 - ChichiriMuyo
50 - OMG its Pale!
51 - dragoontheguy
52 - XIII is cool
53 - Shivan Reincarnated
54 - outback
55 - DarkLink89
56 - dethfdddddh
57 - Ayvuir
58 - Janus5000
59 - War13104
60 - andaca
61 - swirldude
62 - Explicit Content
63 - Meche313
64 - HeroicVivi
65 - FastFalcon05
66 - Tnote
67 - Yesmar
68 - Mac Arrowny
69 - MasterMage119
70 - King Morgoth
71 - Aprosenf
72 - Phediuk
73 - charmander6000
74 - Rufus Shinra 18
75 - Mister Mario
76 - Luis Sera89
77 - longbladeofhiko
78 - shadow8021
79 - Lieutenant Kettch
80 - RPGGamer0
81 - WiggumFan267
82 - MetaRidleyX
83 - chocoboslayer
84 - FFDragon
85 - GrapefruitKing
86 - Lagoona
87 - The CruelAngel
88 - Fett0001
89- cyko


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HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 4:34:11 PM | message detail
I dare say Sonic passes Mega Man this year.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 4:35:07 PM | message detail
those two are a tossup to me, just like they were last year.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 5/12/2006 4:36:45 PM | message detail
I can't see Mega Man beating Sonic this year. Sonic Rush + next-gen Sonic hype (it won't help a ton, but it can't hurt) = Bad News for Mega Man. In 2007, assuming both new Sonic games are out... Mega Man stands no chance.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/12/2006 4:39:43 PM | message detail
Plus, for what it's worth, Shadow the Hedgehog.....
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 5/12/2006 4:40:12 PM | message detail
Plus, for what it's worth, Shadow the Hedgehog.....

Yeah, that too I guess. Don't see that helping Sonic a ton, but again, it won't hurt him.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 4:48:45 PM | message detail
I'd say match-to-match variation is as much of a factor as anything else. Sonic could easily have won if there was a rematch the next day.

I haven't seen anyone talk about STH for months though.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/12/2006 4:52:12 PM | message detail
A lot of people have come away from E3 very impressed by what Sonic is doing in the future. I believe the President of Sega of America commented on how next-gen Sonic is more about bringing him back to the days when he was "cool," and less of this "kiddy" image that he has had more recently. But I would say that Sonic could beat Mega Man this year with no problem without having anything. The match was just that close ...

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 5/12/2006 4:54:55 PM | message detail
I was honestly surprised Sonic didn't beat Mega Man last year.
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 4:57:03 PM | message detail
You were surprised Tifa beat Luigi ! !

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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 4:57:50 PM | message detail
hello there, Dante fanboy ! !
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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/12/2006 4:58:31 PM | message detail
I wasn't surprised that Sonic lost, though I picked him. It was one of my big upset specials. Squall winning the Devil Division was another one. Seeing two upset specials fail by about 2000 votes total sucks.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
therealmnm | Posted 5/12/2006 4:58:57 PM | message detail
What's up with all the talk of Snake beating Samus? Besides her match against Mario, Samus has been damn impressive in just about every match that she's been in.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/12/2006 4:59:34 PM | message detail
Well, she wasn't as impressive against Ganondorf as people thought she might be...
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Ngamer64 | Posted 5/12/2006 4:59:59 PM | message detail
Looks like gamefaqscontests.com ran away with that poll of creative's. So how about this...

gamefaqscontests.com
OR
gfcontests.com

I like the gf; will save my fingers considerable wear and tear.

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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 5:00:50 PM | message detail
was exactly where I figured she'd be - Ganon hails from the bigger series. the only reason people thought she'd beat him worse is because of what Link did to Ganon.
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 5:01:27 PM | message detail
hello there, Dante fanboy ! !

I don't believe I made a topic saying I would leave the board forever if Vincent beat Dante ! !

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/12/2006 5:02:30 PM | message detail
Sonic will slaughter Mega Man in 2007 unless MM gets some amazing new game. Both Sonic Wild Fire and Sonic the Hedgehog have been getting great reviews at E3 and both look to bring Sonic back to form.
trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 5:02:50 PM | message detail
"slaughter", huh?

ahh, must be contest season!
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therealmnm | Posted 5/12/2006 5:02:52 PM | message detail
Because she didn't SFF him like Link did? Beating Ganondorf 60-40 is still impressive in my book as far as contest strength is shown.
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 5:02:57 PM | message detail
gfcontests.com

And yeah, Samus did exactly what she should have against Ganon. People expecting her to SFF the hell out of Ganon were dreaming, of course Link is going to own that leeching bastard.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 5/12/2006 5:03:39 PM | message detail
Slaughter according to Ulti's textbook definition, of course, meaning that Sonic wins with 51% or more.
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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 5:04:20 PM | message detail
in just a few short weeks, we'll have people "calling" matches when they're up six votes again!

can't wait!

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trannyscience | Posted 5/12/2006 5:04:45 PM | message detail
speaking of which, Slow needs to get back here so he can call matches!
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therealmnm | Posted 5/12/2006 5:04:52 PM | message detail
Cloud will take the day vote against Link!
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Anal Storage | Posted 5/12/2006 5:06:38 PM | message detail
in just a few short weeks, we'll have people "calling" matches when they're up six votes again!

can't wait!


Who was that in the Squall vs. Vincent match? Holy ****, most annoying beggining of a match EVER. Seriously, I was ready to ****ing stab someone.

speaking of which, Slow needs to get back here so he can call matches!

I totally forgot about that! Holy **** that was hilarious.

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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 5/12/2006 5:07:49 PM | message detail
What's up with all the talk of Snake beating Samus? Besides her match against Mario, Samus has been damn impressive in just about every match that she's been in.

It is not so much that Samus has been unimpressive in her contest matches, but that Solid Snake is going to be getting something monstrous in his favor -- SSBB and MGS4. Samus, Mario ... whoever it is heading into 2007 is losing his/her spot!

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