Summer 2005 Contest
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 280
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| therealmnm | Posted 4/5/2006 2:26:01 PM | message detail |
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Which is far more than Ness takes from SSB/M, who Falcon is
supposedly strong enough to beat (according to many board denizens).
lol. If he's at best toe-to-toe with Ness (and there's not a damn thing to suggest otherwise, except some dellusional people who think SSBM players give two ****s about Falcon but some reason they don't feel the same towards Ness. I must be out of touch with the SSB/M fanbase, because everybody I know prefers Falcon to Ness. Pros at the game may prefer Ness to Falcon, but I would think that Falcon would be more popular among casuals. I was meaning it at more of a Ness>CF point than a CF-is-weak point. I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt and say his max is 20% (closer to 19% though). He wouldn't be bad or anything, I just don't see him doing much better than that. ??? His max? PAC-MAN is at 20% (22% if you're going off of Base Link). I would easily take Falcon AND Ness over him. I see no reason why Falcon and Ness would struggle to hang with anybody in that range. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Big Bob | Posted 4/5/2006 2:29:03 PM | message detail |
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I would vote for the PoP in a lot of his matches, but that doesn't mean
that I like his games better than Wind Waker or Resident Evil 4. After
reading Serious Sam's bio on the site, I was reminded of a thought I
had a while ago: Nearly every match in the contest has SFF. In fact, characters like Mario, Link, and Mega Man can SFF people who have nothing to do with them, simply because they're so well known and so popular. People have different tastes, and the popularity of some characters may draw anti-votes from others (I'm talking about Master Chief and Squall, specifically), so it's hard to tell where those characters fall. Other characters who are well-known but not particularly liked fall victim to SFF rather easily (like Pac-Man or Donkey Kong). --- Currently Playing: Tetris DS, Metroid Prime Hunters WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PIGS? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 2:36:33 PM | message detail |
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I'm one of the few who think Ness is 23+%. I just think the SSB/M
fanbase has favored Ness more than CF and that EB has a bigger
following here than the entire F-Zero series...not to mention Ness is a
bigger part of EB than CF is to his series. Obviously, the SSB/M fanbase part is debatable -- I never thought of it as being so, but that's almost all I've seen lately. For what it's worth though, I maintain that -- no matter the size of their fanbases outside of SSB/M -- EB is bigger than the F-Zero series and Ness in EB > CF in the F-Zero series. I also think that Ness was THE fan-favorite in SSB, so that's just a lil' more in his favor if I'm right... ...from there, even if CF is more liked in SSBM than Ness, you aren't going to convince me he's THAT much more favored than Ness until the day CF upsets Ness. I'm sticking with Ness having CF's number in every aspect though. Ness wins with 55% or more. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 2:38:21 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and I'm skeptic at Pac-Man being at a legit 20%. I wouldn't expect CF to pound him though if they had to face off. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 2:45:36 PM | message detail |
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I would vote for the PoP in a lot of his matches, but that doesn't
mean that I like his games better than Wind Waker or Resident Evil 4. That's fine, what I was pointing out with those two polls though was that PoP:SoT, despite moving from the Gamecube poll to the GotY poll and having about 6,000 less votes, still managed to increase in percentage. Hell, just for kicks, PoP:SoT went from getting 10.9% less in the Gamecube poll than MK:DD!! to getting seven votes more than MK:DD!! in the GotY poll. That's what I was finding so unusual, how PoP:SoT actually improved against much stronger competition (including the three strongest he already faced in the Gamecube poll). Whether it was because of smaller vote totals (look how similar its vote totals were both times...3,134 and 3,157) or that Gamecube fans simply don't care about PoP much at all, you tell me, but it's worth a look. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| swirIdude | Posted 4/5/2006 2:50:02 PM | message detail |
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EC rallying --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 3:01:08 PM | message detail |
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I can live with that answer. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Kaxon | Posted 4/5/2006 3:55:45 PM | message detail |
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In fact, characters like Mario, Link, and Mega Man can SFF people
who have nothing to do with them, simply because they're so well known
and so popular. That's not SFF. SFF is when someone who likes character A is more likely than average to also like character B, or vice versa. In other words, a correlation between liking characters A and B. What you're talking about has more to do with distribution. The x-stats assume every character has a uniform distribution, whereas in fact characters have different distributions. Pac Man probably has a lot of people who like him some, while Master Chief probably has a fair number of people who like him a lot and a number who don't like him at all. King Morgoth was doing some work in this area, but it's hard to figure out based on the data we have. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751 |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/5/2006 6:43:45 PM | message detail |
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Mario Kart 64 is still the best in the series, folks. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/5/2006 6:59:38 PM | message detail |
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BOLD PREDICTION: We won't get a Spring Contest, but only because CJayC finally wises up and replaces it with a Winter Contest. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 4/5/2006 7:04:00 PM | message detail |
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BOLD PREDICTION: We won't get a Spring Contest, but only because CJayC finally wises up and replaces it with a Winter Contest. Um, winter already passed. --- MasterMage119/Adept of Aiur |
| Sir Auron | Posted 4/5/2006 7:08:43 PM | message detail |
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If CJayC's thought process was to have the villain contest in order to
have a legitimate excuse to remove Sephiroth, then he may never really
bother with any more spring contests. I somehow doubt he planned to
continually have two contests a year like that. --- "This is my story -- and you're not apart of it." -- Auron |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/5/2006 7:09:25 PM | message detail |
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Um, winter already passed. I meant winter 2006. He obviously wouldn't run three contests in a single year. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Sir Auron | Posted 4/5/2006 7:11:55 PM | message detail |
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Remove Sephiroth from the main bracket in the Summer Contest that
should say. I think it's possible he could have come up with the idea
of a Tournament of Champions quite a bit before Spring 2005 and decided
to have a contest only to set up for the ToC in the summer. That should clarify that better. --- "This is my story -- and you're not apart of it." -- Auron |
| Master Moltar | Posted 4/5/2006 7:13:15 PM | message detail |
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We won't get a Spring Contest, but only because CJayC finally wises up and replaces it with a Winter Contest. That's what I've been hoping. --- Moltar Fact #18: Moltar is in love with Mario Kart DS right now. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 4/5/2006 7:23:07 PM | message detail |
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We won't get a Spring Contest, but only because CJayC finally wises up and replaces it with a Winter Contest. That's what I've been hoping. Bleh, but I want instant gratification, not long term amusement! --- Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 7:32:40 PM | message detail |
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I meant winter 2006. He obviously wouldn't run three contests in a single year. Oh, you mean like last year? 'Cuz he ran three contests in the single year of 2005. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Lopen | Posted 4/5/2006 7:34:06 PM | message detail |
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No way would I take Captain Falcon over Pac Man, especially not as a "lock pick". I'd be very surprised if he broke the fodder line, I'm seeing him at around 15-16% range myself. Yeah, you heard me. 15-16%. I doubt he gets much of anything from F-Zero. (I had casually played F-Zero before Smash Bros and I still had no idea who CF was) Maybe a slight bit from F-Zero GX. And I don't think he's nearly as favored as Ness is by the SSB/M fans. Maybe I'm out of touch with the SSB/M fanbase though. --- Raiden is still [-29] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25457391 |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/5/2006 7:39:03 PM | message detail |
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I completely agree that Falcons going to be a bomb. F-Zero will do
literally nothing for him here. He's going to have to rely on SSB:M
alone and even if he was equal with Ness(And I doubt he is, no matter
what you guys say), Earthbound diehards will easily put Ness on top. I called Ridley being a bomb and I called Kerrigan being a bomb. And I'll call this right now. Out of all the Nomination Rally winners, Falcon will be the weakest. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 7:48:29 PM | message detail |
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I called Viewtiful Joe being a bomb and I called Kuja being a bomb. And
I'll call this right now. Out of all the Nomination Rally winners,
Prince of Persia will be the weakest. Two can play this game, and hell, it just might go multi-player. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| therealmnm | Posted 4/5/2006 7:49:00 PM | message detail |
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Heh, and another person bragging about calling Kerrigan bombing like it
was actually hard to call or something. =P On a side note, I'm through
debating in the stats topic... --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 4/5/2006 7:49:33 PM | message detail |
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Two can play this game, and hell, it just might go multi-player. Because two is single player. >_> --- MasterMage119/Adept of Aiur |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 7:53:26 PM | message detail |
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I've grown up thinkin' in three categories for gameplay: one-player, two-player, and multi-player. Sue me. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Big Bob | Posted 4/5/2006 7:54:57 PM | message detail |
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Pac-Man > Falcon > Ness Falcon Punch > Link --- Currently Playing: Tetris DS, Metroid Prime Hunters WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PIGS? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2006 8:04:13 PM | message detail |
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Pac-Man < Falcon < Ness Fixed. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Lopen | Posted 4/5/2006 9:32:24 PM | message detail |
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I'm through debating in the stats topic... Why? Pointless debate makes the topic go around! I have a feeling this might be due to me... because it seems I always disagree with you. But then again I don't really post here that much. But really, why stop? And by the way I called all of the aforementioned bombs and Terra and Jak if we're taking count here. Though I didn't call Lloyd Irving, and I still had Kuja winning, so I guess I didn't really call him either. (though I had had him winning more out of his pack's weakness than his strength) --- Raiden is still [-29] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25457391 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/5/2006 9:33:22 PM | message detail |
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And I don't think he's nearly as favored as Ness is by the SSB/M fans. Maybe I'm out of touch with the SSB/M fanbase though. Eh, coming from a hardcore SSBM fan, and knowing most fans in general, I'd say that Ness is the favor when it comes to casualty. Sure, Falcon is higher up in the tier list; but I haven't seen too many people who'd like Falcon or Ness for anything. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/5/2006 9:35:11 PM | message detail |
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er, over, not or. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |
| ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/5/2006 10:46:44 PM | message detail |
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Sorry for this is going to be really off-topic but I really need help
deciding a laptop right now and I don't know much about it... All the
users in this topic are/seem rather intelligent so might I ask
something... Out of the two, which one should I get and both are pretty
similar price. DELL XPS 140: Intel® Pentium® M Processor 760 (2GHz/2MB Cache/533MHz FSB) 14.1 inch WXGA TrueLife™ LCD Panel 1GB Shared DDR2 SDRAM 2 Dimms 120GB 5400rpm Hard Drive 8xCD/DVD burner(DVD+/-RW)w/dble-layer DVD+R write Intel® PRO 2915 Internal Wireless (802.11 a/b/g, 54Mbps) 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery (80 WHr) OR DELL E5105 SINGLE CORE: Intel® Core™ Solo processor T1300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB) 15.4 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen SXGA+ Display with TrueLife™ FREE 1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm 100GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 802.11a/g Mini Card (54Mbps) 256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory™ 53 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery --- Eagerly awaiting Final Fantasy XII! |
| Kaxon | Posted 4/5/2006 11:04:07 PM | message detail |
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The main difference I notice is that the screen is bigger on the second
one, which is nice. I have no idea how those processors compare since I
haven't read about mobile CPUs in a few years. You could probably find
info on tomshardware.com or anandtech.com. Just based on the info you
posted I'd probably go for the second one, although I don't really like
laptops very much. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2006 5:49:27 AM | message detail |
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CF is far from a lock to beat Pac-Man and he won't SFF him. CF isn't old-school and universally known enough. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/6/2006 6:52:14 AM | message detail |
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I also never for a second said CF would SFF him or beat him by alot. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/6/2006 6:56:49 AM | message detail |
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I know I'm just saying because someone is going to say it sooner or later. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/6/2006 7:25:48 AM | message detail |
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Here's to hoping nobody compares Captain Falcon to Yoshi or Luigi. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/6/2006 10:05:14 AM | message detail |
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From: swirIdude | Posted: 4/5/2006 5:50:02 PM | Message Detail | #306 EC rallying --- Xbox 360 melts disks! And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/5/2006 6:01:08 PM | Message Detail | #307 I can live with that answer. >_> XD. BOLD PREDICTION: We won't get a Spring Contest, but only because CJayC finally wises up and replaces it with a Winter Contest. About a two weeks or so ago, I was creating a new account and some massive questionaire form came up on the page instead of the "activate account" page, and it was from Gamespot/GameFAQs asking all about stuff related to gaming and the site, and one of the questions was "If you could change anything about either site, what would you do?" I responded with a Summer/Winter rotation of GameFAQs site contests, instead of the Spring/Summer one. Now I'm not delusional enough to think that I'm the reason that there's not going to be a Spring contest (or so it seems), but it would indeed be awesome if it were to happen. I called Viewtiful Joe being a bomb and I called Kuja being a bomb. And I'll call this right now. Out of all the Nomination Rally winners, Prince of Persia will be the weakest. So did I sucka, but I actually had the stones to pick Master Hand too! And you know what? I don't call PoP being the weakest, so in your face HaRR, in your face. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 4/6/2006 10:07:47 AM | message detail |
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PoP just needs a kickass seeding, thats all. --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/6/2006 10:08:58 AM | message detail |
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And he'll get one ! ! Now listen to tranny's funky beat: http://www.metroid2002.com/transience/dyschordia/dyschordia%20-%20song2.mp3 --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| longbladeofhiko | Posted 4/6/2006 10:10:02 AM | message detail |
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We should see how good Prince of Persia does in a Game Contest setting if we get a Spring Contest of that manner, EC >_> --- The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/6/2006 10:10:47 AM | message detail |
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Well yeah, I doubt we'd have as much support though. I'd still try to get Sands of Time in though. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/6/2006 11:06:00 AM | message detail |
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So did I sucka, but I actually had the stones to pick Master Hand
too! And you know what? I don't call PoP being the weakest, so in your
face HaRR, in your face. I had bigger stones for making that same pick from day one and arguably being the most vocal about it (only Master Mage compares, and he was probably moreso than I)! I do call PoP the weakest, so return to your bowing position EC, return to your bowing position. E-egos, gotta love them. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| transience | Posted 4/6/2006 11:37:02 AM | message detail |
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wtf why is my song i wrote in five minutes in here --- xyzzy |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 4/7/2006 7:26:00 AM | message detail |
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You can tell that this topic is full of discussion ... --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel. But it is life." -- Auron |
| voltch | Posted 4/7/2006 9:44:49 AM | message detail |
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we will get plenty of discussions once CjayC announces the contests. --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 4/7/2006 12:58:21 PM | message detail |
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Or contest. Meh, I've lost all my faith now, completely. --- "People who play RPGs are depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games" - Hiroshi Yamauchi |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/7/2006 1:19:00 PM | message detail |
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I seriously hope you don't think I was serious HaRR. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/7/2006 1:41:45 PM | message detail |
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I seriously didn't think you were serious, no worries. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| meche313 | Posted 4/7/2006 1:44:46 PM | message detail |
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I'm of the ones that will lose all its faith on a Spring Contest if it's not announced today. --- I still need a good sig. |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/7/2006 4:47:54 PM | message detail |
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I lost all faith yesterday. Here's to hoping for a May 1st announcement of the Summer Contest. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| LeonhartForever | Posted 4/8/2006 1:09:58 PM | message detail |
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Oh, you mean like last year? 'Cuz he ran three contests in the single year of 2005. Except 1. They weren't all the kind of contest we're thinking of, and 2. GameFAQs' 10-Year Anniversary doesn't happen every year. --- SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/8/2006 2:35:57 PM | message detail |
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Except 1. They weren't all the kind of contest we're thinking of,
and 2. GameFAQs' 10-Year Anniversary doesn't happen every year. 1. It was still a contest ! ! 2. You're right, it happens once every 10 years. I'm so proud of you Leon. <3 --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |