Summer 2005 Contest
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 280
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| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/31/2006 3:01:28 PM | message detail |
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A game can be "great" and not provide very much in the way of challenge. Like Final Fantasy 7 and Disgaea, two of my favorites. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 2, FF4A, Deus Ex, C&C |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 3:05:09 PM | message detail |
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Heh, Final Fantasy VI fits that description to a T. You have to blatantly go out of your way to even make the game remotely challenging... Yet, it's still one of my faves. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 3:06:54 PM | message detail |
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Practically any RPG you name is likely to fall under the category of
"great, but not challenging." But, another example of a great game with
no challenge would be The Wind Waker. I would not imagine very many
people agreeing with me on that, though. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/31/2006 3:06:55 PM | message detail |
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nah, you can still die in FF6. in a game like Xenogears, though? it's
near-impossible as long as you've got the latest equipment on. heck, Metroid: Zero Mission is easy as freaking hell and I love it. --- xyzzy |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/31/2006 3:08:00 PM | message detail |
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I died a couple of times in the stealth parts. ~*ST*~ --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 2, FF4A, Deus Ex, C&C |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 3:13:46 PM | message detail |
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nah, you can still die in FF6. in a game like Xenogears, though?
it's near-impossible as long as you've got the latest equipment on. I had a way tougher time with Xenogears than FF6. Hell, the only time I actually died in FF6 when I wasn't messing around or anything was the first time I fought the Tentacles in Figaro Castle. Xenogears? There are plenty of tough fights in that game. Opiomorph? There are others, but I can't think of their names off-hand. But yeah, Wind Waker fits the bill even more than FF6. But yet, it still kicks ass! --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| trannyscience | Posted 3/31/2006 3:16:23 PM | message detail |
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I can beat Xenogears without even coming close to dying. Opiomorph can
be taken down by Crescens pretty easily, but yeah, that's the hardest
fight in the game. I have no problem dying in FF6 because I'm always so
underlevelled. I suppose if you do every last thing in the WOR, you can
easily crush the game, but if you don't you just get massacred by
having to split up into three parties. as for M:ZM, yeah, you can die in the stealth parts, but that's a bit different. the actual bosses are a joke - you can just shoot missiles at them while getting mauled and you'll still come out on top. --- xyzzy |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 3:29:58 PM | message detail |
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I can beat Xenogears without even coming close to dying. I can say the same thing about FF6. Most of the time, you can simply power your way through the game, even if you don't level up much. But even if you do come upon a fight were you might actually have to use some sort of strategy, you still shouldn't have much trouble with anybody. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Applause Sign | Posted 3/31/2006 4:20:05 PM | message detail |
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To go back to the beggining of this topic for a second (because you
can't stop me and my huge wang), I don't necesarily think the
characters will be boosting from their roles in KHII, for the most
part, everyone knows who they are already, and their feelings of them
probably won't be changing. The biggest factor is just drawing more
Square fans to the site as a whole, sure if one character has an
absolute stand-out performance in the game he can boost, but for the
size of the roles of the characters I doubt that will be what causes
them. Granted I haven't played KHII yet, but from what I've heard that
seems to be the case. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 4:37:52 PM | message detail |
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The biggest factor is just drawing more Square fans to the site as a whole I've been saying that about big releases for the longest, but people still like to argue about a particular character having to have a role in the game. I bet the sentiment in this topic still is that a big release like New Super Mario Bros. will only have an effect on Mario, Luigi, and Bowser. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Applause Sign | Posted 3/31/2006 4:39:36 PM | message detail |
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Yeah... I disagree completely with them, sure if one character has an
outstanding performance, especially one who's never had one before, in
a game, then they'll be the one to feel the effects the most, but at
this point I seriously doubt KHII is making more Cloud/Squall/whatever
fans. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 4:39:53 PM | message detail |
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I would laugh at you if you thought it would do anything notable for anyone else. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 4:40:31 PM | message detail |
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Okay. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 4:42:41 PM | message detail |
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Mostly because NSMB is not THAT big of a release, another because the
boosts from other characters would be so minute that even bothering
mentioning them would be utterly pointless, and ... well, that about
does it. As for KH2, regardless of what you believe will be the result of these characters boosting, at the end of the day it still results in a boost for those characters. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| Applause Sign | Posted 3/31/2006 4:43:46 PM | message detail |
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And Cloud > Link, don't forget that one ! ! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 4:45:19 PM | message detail |
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You better not forget that one, buddy o' mine who enjoys hot dogs up different holes in his body. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 4:45:56 PM | message detail |
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Okay. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Kaxon | Posted 3/31/2006 4:48:20 PM | message detail |
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KH sucks ass up until Hercules World which is right after Tarzan Land. Alright, maybe I'll try it again... AFTER I finish Suikoden V. Thing is, I'm not interested in the Disney stuff at all, but I do want to fight Sephiroth and all that good stuff. --- Nominate Aeris for SC2k6 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751 |
| TransgenderLove | Posted 3/31/2006 4:48:48 PM | message detail |
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Well I won't forget if you don't forget about Cloud & Reno ! ! --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Trannys. |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 4:50:09 PM | message detail |
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There is still a shred of my pride gone after Inviso thought it would be funny to trick me into looking at that picture. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| Applause Sign | Posted 3/31/2006 4:51:32 PM | message detail |
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That baby was a classic. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| jonthomson | Posted 3/31/2006 5:04:14 PM | message detail |
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Finishing Metroid Prime 2 two days before I get a three week break from
uni wasn't clever. Now I've got nothing to do apart from play Ikaruga
to death. Unless we get a contest really soon. --- Jon Thomson - now with a new sig for comedy value |
| HaRRicH | Posted 3/31/2006 8:50:13 PM | message detail |
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Scanning this whole Peach/favorite character poll business, I'm
surprised nobody's brought up M. Bison. Finished tied for 8th in a 12
character poll & didn't even get 3%. Yet in his one and only
contest, he performed as well as the characters who finished 2nd &
3rd in the poll. A good example of someone that has solid popularity
without anyone really calling them their favorite character. Actually a very good point. Peach is more to the Mario fans than M. Bison would be to the SF fans, I would think, and there's more Mario fans than SF fans here. M. Bison is just under Diablo, too. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but...it's an interesting thought. --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| outback | Posted 3/31/2006 9:00:27 PM | message detail |
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From: trannyscience | #104 nah, you can still die in FF6. in a game like Xenogears, though? it's near-impossible as long as you've got the latest equipment on. heck, Metroid: Zero Mission is easy as freaking hell and I love it. Yeah, but M:ZM is the kind of game that's easy but you still have to do a little bit of thinking. It's a game where you're actively engaged at all points, where I wouldn't really be apt to say that for many of the RPGs I've played. --- Don't quote me. - Blulum |
| Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 3/31/2006 9:10:43 PM | message detail |
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How the hell is Peach more to Mario fans than Bison is to SF fans?
Peach is just the damsel in distress, Bison's the villain who's also a
popular played character and was one of the reasons why Champion
Edition was so popular. All Peach has is SMB2 (Which isn't well liked)
and Super Princess Peach (Which nobody cares about.) --- Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus |
| Lopen | Posted 3/31/2006 9:29:25 PM | message detail |
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Peach is more to the Mario fans than M. Bison would be to the SF fans, I would think I wouldn't, but I do think that (I know I sound like mnm's argument which I was going against... but hear me out) Bison has an excuse to be strong and yet still score low on a favorites poll. Here's the thing: In Street Fighter, you're likely to have a favorite fighter, and it can be... well... any of em. But, regardless of which fighter you pick, M. Bison is always "the guy you fight in the end". He's always significant to the story (especially in the Alpha games). Whereas with a character such as Zangief or Dhalsim... if you don't use em, you probably don't really care about them. They're a speed bump on the way to Bison, and sometimes they're not even that much. So even if you don't like to use Bison, you're still probably gonna be more attached to him than pretty much every other character in the game aside from the ones you do use. However, in that particular poll, he's up against every other character. That means while he's generally moderately liked by the fanbase, he loses almost all of his votes because in those polls you pretty much just pick the guy you like to use the most. Does that make sense? I don't think Peach has any real justification for lack of votes aside from general voter apathy. She gets kidnapped... and that's about it. Save for appearances in the Party/Golf/Kart/whatever games (in which she isn't any more significant than Dhalsim or E. Honda) and SMB2, she really doesn't do anything in the games. However, I do think Bowser has a similar justification of his poor showing in those polls. And it should also be noted that while Bison didn't do that well... about half of the roster was also within 1% of him... not as much tiering going on, which I think is key. Man... it feels like all I do in this topic is attack Peach this off-season. I'm pretty sure that's what I did last time I came in here too. I don't even hate her, really. I just like arguing about her being fodder I guess. --- Raiden is still [-29] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25457391 |
| Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 3/31/2006 9:31:27 PM | message detail |
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Bison isn't always important. He's dead in SFIII. --- Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus |
| Lopen | Posted 3/31/2006 9:34:39 PM | message detail |
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Psh, you think I don't know that? (It's a damn shame by the way) But generally, it's true. (why are you arguing against me? I thought we were on the same page here! Heh...) --- Raiden is still [-29] nominations short! http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=25457391 |
| Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 3/31/2006 9:36:49 PM | message detail |
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Just being techinical, I don't think GameFAQS cares about SFIII anyway so it woulden't matter. --- Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 10:12:58 PM | message detail |
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For some odd reason, the attention Peach is getting reminds me much of Kerrigan ... --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| therealmnm | Posted 3/31/2006 10:22:11 PM | message detail |
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Okay. --- Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6 Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!) |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 3/31/2006 10:29:39 PM | message detail |
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Is there any point at all in responding if you are merely going to go with "Okay" every time? --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| voltch | Posted 4/1/2006 1:17:27 AM | message detail |
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CjayC sure likes his outrageous jokes --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 4/1/2006 2:52:21 AM | message detail |
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Hats off to CJay for another fantastic AFD! If he's put half this much
thought into what Contest to run this Spring, we'll be sitting pretty. --- "lol x-stats" - The Contest Simulator: http://thengamer.com/xstats Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/1/2006 3:33:30 AM | message detail |
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I've mentioned CJay rules before, right? In case I haven't, CJay rules.
I wasn't fooled by it, per say, but I didn't know how to get to the
home page for a lil' bit, and I got a smile out of the idea too. Good
enough for me, damn it all. I'm drunk, by the way. Are there any characters anybody would take over Solid Snake (or any other NN'er) for sure that are not already in the Noble Nine this year? I'm sure Squall, Vincent, and Ganondorf could be three popular picks..... --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 4/1/2006 7:42:25 AM | message detail |
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Those and Bowser all have a good chance in beating Solid Snake. Personally I would hate for the Noble 9 to fall. --- "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/1/2006 7:59:50 AM | message detail |
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^ Ditto, especially if it was Snake who lost... But I'd take Ganon over Snake, pre-MGS4. And not even with Twilight Princess. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 "XiC is a little guy. I could probably throw him into a dartboard, headfirst, using one arm." - Ohfennsiv |
| Big Bob | Posted 4/1/2006 8:38:05 AM | message detail |
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I think Crono will *eventually* be the one to break the Noble Nine.
Snake, Mega Man, and Sonic keep releasing games and maintaining their
fanbases. Of course, this argument is invalid if CT is downloadable on the Revolution... --- Currently Playing: Tetris DS, Metroid Prime Hunters WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PIGS? |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 4/1/2006 12:04:35 PM | message detail |
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Crono is a fair distance ahead of Sonic and his constant stream of games. That's got to tell you something in and of itself. --- Take a hike, and don't forget the trail mix *****. Hijack - MC Chris Detective in Sir Chris' Police |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/1/2006 12:11:30 PM | message detail |
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I would contemplate taking Squall over Sn--- OH, WTF, SOMEONE GOT ****ING MANJUICE ALL OVER MY F8, SERIOUSLY, WTF. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Janus5000 | Posted 4/1/2006 12:16:58 PM | message detail |
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I'd pick Snake to lose to Magus. ... At least until I wake up and realize it was a dream. --- It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing. - Macbeth |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/1/2006 12:24:10 PM | message detail |
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I'm not even joking about the manjuice thing, I just noticed it, and it's ****ing disgusting. I'm going to dropkick my brother in the balls as soon as he walks in the door. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Janus5000 | Posted 4/1/2006 12:29:10 PM | message detail |
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Kick him hard enough and you might get some on your foot too !! --- It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing. - Macbeth |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/1/2006 12:29:33 PM | message detail |
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... Bastard. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 4/1/2006 12:57:50 PM | message detail |
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Crono is a fair distance ahead of Sonic and his constant stream of games. That's got to tell you something in and of itself. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2125 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2127 I don't think 3-4% is a "fair distance"... and Crono is slowly dipping, while Sonic will hopefully have a new game before he's out of the next Summer Contest. --- Sign my petition! Topic ID: 22242738 "XiC is a little guy. I could probably throw him into a dartboard, headfirst, using one arm." - Ohfennsiv |
| Applause Sign | Posted 4/1/2006 1:11:47 PM | message detail |
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I don't think 3-4% is a "fair distance"... and Crono is slowly dipping, while Sonic will hopefully have a new game before he's out of the next Summer Contest. Actually he was perfectly constant from a year ago. And at this point, generic releases of average Sonic games aren't going to do anything for his strength. Nearly everyone has played a Sonic game, knows who he is, and has an opinion on him. The only way he's going to boost significantly is if he has an absolutely stellar game that captivates the gaming world for a period of time. --- Explicit Content Cheer Up Emo Kids |
| Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 4/1/2006 1:59:57 PM | message detail |
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Are there any characters anybody would take over Solid Snake (or any
other NN'er) for sure that are not already in the Noble Nine this year? I know I would take Squall over Snake for certain this year. Bowser would be another really good option with what he has to help him. Ganon though? I cannot see that one happening before Twilight Princess. I think it is worth noting that Snake could maybe benefit from Subsistence. --- "Outside the dream world, life can be harsh -- even cruel, but it is life." -- Auron |
| voltch | Posted 4/1/2006 2:07:04 PM | message detail |
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Huzzah! a poll that CATS wins. there's still life in the old joke left. --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |
| HaRRicH | Posted 4/1/2006 2:07:40 PM | message detail |
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Didn't Solid rise in 2k3 after Substance was released? --- Miss my Four-Pack Of Fun? Go here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 |
| voltch | Posted 4/1/2006 2:14:06 PM | message detail |
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will MGA2 raise snakes power by a percentage or two? --- Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft. BrentfordFC-championship here we come |