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SephirothG | Posted 4/16/2006 6:09:59 PM | message detail
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SephirothG | Posted 4/16/2006 6:11:53 PM | message detail
If Aeris makes it, I can't see Red XIII or Cid Highwind getting in as well, so I hope not.

On an unrelated note, may I make the next topic? It's been about a year since I began regularly posting on Board 8, and I need to pay my dues.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 4/16/2006 6:13:50 PM | message detail
A bit late for 281, SephirothG maybe the next one:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27513041
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SephirothG | Posted 4/16/2006 6:16:19 PM | message detail
*sigh*

I don't know how I missed that one...
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Kaxon | Posted 4/16/2006 11:14:56 PM | message detail
The Aeris rally topic has 40 signups so far... which is a lot better than nothing, but doesn't make me feel real confident. My biggest worry is that she won't get in due to having four other FFVII characters with more nominations. I think her chances are about 50-50 right now.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=27379470
LeonhartForever | Posted 4/17/2006 5:53:24 AM | message detail
Man, I'm hoping we don't end up with 5 or 6 FFVII characters this summer...
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Mac Arrowny | Posted 4/17/2006 8:29:04 AM | message detail
Why not? I've never really seen the issue with having lots of Nintendo/Square/FFVII characters. If it makes the contest more interesting, nothing else really matters.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/17/2006 8:39:00 AM | message detail
A lot of Square/Nintendo characters is fine, but I really don't want to see THAT many FFVII characters.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2006 10:56:31 AM | message detail
...unless they're in the same four/eight-pack.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/17/2006 11:00:16 AM | message detail
Yeah, I suppose it wouldn't be TOO bad in that case. I just don't want more than a quarter of the Sweet Sixteen to be FFVII characters.

Put Tifa and Aeris, and Cid and Red XIII in the same four-pack, and I suppose I could deal with a lot of them.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Kaxon | Posted 4/17/2006 1:34:51 PM | message detail
Thing is, between KH, KH2, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Ergheiz, etc., it's basically become a franchise. Having five FF VII characters isn't quite the same as having five characters from a single game... at least I hope Ceej will see it that way.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
UItimaterializer | Posted 4/17/2006 3:15:58 PM | message detail
You can make 282 if you really want. Just remember to slap it up when 281 hits 400 posts.
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Get the X out.
SephirothG | Posted 4/17/2006 3:59:31 PM | message detail
Cool.
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HAVEITAGAINLOL | Posted 4/17/2006 4:02:05 PM | message detail
I don't really see why you want to make one so badly, but it's all good!

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Who Cares? | Posted 4/17/2006 7:16:02 PM | message detail
Does anybody think Kingdom Hearts will send someone in the contest other than Sora or Riku? I've heard Roxas & Axel's names being thrown around, but I figure that was just the rush of a new game talking.

And on that note, I only got a small taste of KH2 thanks to a 2-day rental (I only got about 9 hours in), but man I've enjoyed it thus far. I can see why people hype this series so much. I may shell out the money to buy it by the end of the week.

As far as FF7 characters go, the only interesting thing left that can come from the game IMO is seeing what one of its NPCs can do. As far as main characters go, the five we've seen thus far is enough.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/17/2006 7:54:38 PM | message detail
Chances for KH characters being in the contest:

Sora: 100%
Riku: 75%
Roxas: 30%
Axel: 10%

And that's about it..

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HaRRicH | Posted 4/17/2006 8:01:49 PM | message detail
As far as FF7 characters go, the only interesting thing left that can come from the game IMO is seeing what one of its NPCs can do.

That's what the Villain Contest was made for.
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Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted 4/17/2006 8:45:03 PM | message detail
I would be willing to bet Roxas gets more than enough nominations to make the contest.

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Big Bob | Posted 4/17/2006 8:48:43 PM | message detail
I MUST see why Roxas is liked...but first I have to beat the first game...
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 4/18/2006 6:29:30 AM | message detail
I am not sure on Roxas.. I don't see why he's so well liked, if he is...

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Eagerly awaiting Final Fantasy XII!
therealmnm | Posted 4/18/2006 11:19:02 AM | message detail
Does anyone know if Slow still logs on? He can't be still avoiding posting over that Nom Rally fiasco, can he?
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: KH2, MGS3:S, GTA:SA, MMAC (wow, my PS2 is actually getting play!)
LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 11:20:01 AM | message detail
From what I've heard, he logs on, but doesn't post.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Applause Sign | Posted 4/18/2006 11:35:28 AM | message detail
If that's why he isn't posting I feel bad for him, and not because of what I did/said.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2006 11:37:28 AM | message detail
I was typing something up about how I'm going to be afraid of Sora this year, because I think KHII Sora appeals to the FF crowd a lot more than KH Sora did, because his image changes in sort of the same way as Squall's did between FFVIII and kH, when a thought occurred. Sora got his head handed to him by Snake. We've discussed the possibility of that being SFF, as well as Sephiroth/Liquid Snake and Final Fantasy VII/Metal Gear Solid.

So who did Snake face in the year before the original Kingdom Hearts? In the first round, he beat the crap out of Squall, getting 65.43%. Snake happened to get 65.26% against Sora last year. Who else did Snake face? Aerith, whom he beat with 56.54%. Why does this mean anything?

Who were the big beneficiaries of the KHF? Cloud, Squall, Sephiroth, Aeris, and Tidus. Tidus was a fake, hiding behind something weird in Link/Magus. Cloud's match with Mario caused much consternation, and we know he didn't benefit as much as we originally thought. And if Snake can SFF Square characters (and the reverse is true), that would underwrite both Squall and Aerith's gains. The odd man out is Sephiroth, who, if anything, trends the other way. Typical.

My point is that I'm not so sure I would expect the minor Square characters in KHII to exhibit huge gains, because the KH characters might not have. But I'm still rather afraid of Sora.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 11:46:18 AM | message detail
I personally think Squall's gain was still worth boasting about, but then again, I'm one of the few who thinks that his 2005 value is where he's been all along. Aeris's gain was modest even if Snake DID SFF her. And there's no way Cloud's gain wasn't significant either.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/18/2006 3:57:16 PM | message detail
Sora will have a freaky range this summer.

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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:03:59 PM | message detail
In my opinion, Sora could possibly defeat anyone who's not Noble Nine or a strong Final Fantasy character (Squall, Aeris, Tifa, Vincent). If anything, I could see him nabbing 45% or better on Bowser or Ganondorf.

Would anyone take him over some of the mid-range FF characters like Tidus?

Who is the strongest character you would take Sora over in 2006?
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:10:15 PM | message detail
I'd have a hard time taking Sora over someone that doubled him (Aeris). I'd take Squall, Auron and anything from FF7 over him. I'd take Sora over Tidus, Magus and all the other Square midcarders.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:11:21 PM | message detail
I'd definitely take Sora over Magus. I don't think there's any way Magus gets any weird SFF on him.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/18/2006 4:11:22 PM | message detail
Going off the 2k5 X-Stats I'd put Sora around Knuckes/Dante in strength. I'd take him over both of them and maybe Kirby as well.
trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:14:26 PM | message detail
going from Knuckles/Dante to Kirby is a pretty significant jump, especially if something weird happened with Vincent. I suppose you could say the same thing about Bowser as well, but I'm pretty sure most people here would take Kirby over Knuckles and Dante.

well, 'cept for Lopen and EC.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 4/18/2006 4:16:54 PM | message detail
I personally think Kirby was overrated last year for whatever reason. I just doubt he'll be as strong this year.
LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:17:35 PM | message detail
Kirby is like an upper mid-tier Gordon Freeman. He just doesn't get blown out.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:20:01 PM | message detail
well, Kirby had no problem dropping 59% on Tidus, and I'd at least stop to think about Tidus vs. Sora. I have no problem taking Kirby over Sora. same with Zelda.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:21:54 PM | message detail
Considering Kirby got 57.65% on Tidus, he DID have trouble breaking 59% on him.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2006 4:22:18 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2335

That makes me very unsure of Sora's strength. He should be a lot stronger, because KHII makes him into a much more typical Square hero - less Disneyish, if you get my meaning. That's something I remember therealmnm talking about ages ago, and it makes sense. But, from that poll, I'm not sure enough of the site has played the game to make a huge of a difference in his favor. Maybe that'll change by summer, as the poll was only a week after the game was released, but most sales for a game happen initially and we'll probably have no way to tell anyway.

So I'd probably play it conservatively, taking the big FF (those that you mentioned, plus Auron and Magus) and the big Nintendo names (Gdorf, Bowser, Kirby, and Luigi, out of bias). That leaves Tidus, Zero, Zelda, Dante, Ryu, and Knuckles. I'd probably take Sora over the last three, and the first three I wouldn't have a lot of confidence either way (Tidus because of SFF, Zelda and Zero for strength).
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"Men who are diametrically opposed to me die. The explanation is quite simple, these men are mad, and it is the mad who die." ~ Metternich
trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:26:04 PM | message detail
meh, 58, 59%, same thing! (this is what I get for going off of memory and not looking at numbers.)

Zero vs. Sora... I think 'monica made a fourpack over on Harrich's board recently and I took Sora. I am not sure about this match though. I take Sora over Ryu, Dante and Knuckles though.
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trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:27:02 PM | message detail
here it is:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=585007&topic=27483253
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:28:52 PM | message detail
Eh, even the top 10 games list had a good chunk of the voting population under the "I've never even played it" and "I don't own it" demographics. I wouldn't take that poll for much right now, especially since, as you said, it was taken very shortly after KHII was released.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
WildCherrySoul | Posted 4/18/2006 4:34:17 PM | message detail
I'm thinking Sora will be the next Magus/Master Chief. The board is hyping him up to be a monster, but I just don't see him being that strong.

I'd take anyone above Auron over him, really. Maybe not Luigi or Kirby...
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Good to the last drop
Soup Blazer | Posted 4/18/2006 4:35:21 PM | message detail
this topic is silly
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SephirothG | Posted 4/18/2006 4:37:26 PM | message detail
Sora still faces the danger of being the most SFF-susceptible character out of the mid-to-upper tier Squaresoft characters.
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:38:42 PM | message detail
I just have a feeling that, for as much as we're wondering where Sora's gonna end up, he's going to end up with a fairly predictable path in the actual contest.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just my gut feeling, that all of this discussion won't matter in the end.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
RPGuy96 | Posted 4/18/2006 4:39:34 PM | message detail
Well, we had pretty much the same problem with Master Chief, though he tried to make it more fun by sucking a lot more than we thought.
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"Men who are diametrically opposed to me die. The explanation is quite simple, these men are mad, and it is the mad who die." ~ Metternich
SephirothG | Posted 4/18/2006 4:40:17 PM | message detail
LEONHART DON'T WASTE YOUR NOMINATION ON SQUALL HE'S GUARANTEED TO GET IN WITH A GOOD SEED ANYWAY M I RITE
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:42:37 PM | message detail
I can't NOT nominate Squall.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Soup Blazer | Posted 4/18/2006 4:43:33 PM | message detail
mouth sex
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Soup Blazer | Posted 4/18/2006 4:44:02 PM | message detail
waht
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LeonhartForever | Posted 4/18/2006 4:44:22 PM | message detail
Squall > All
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
trannyscience | Posted 4/18/2006 4:44:28 PM | message detail
Jay Solano: making everybody feel better about their favourite character.

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