I'm not so sure, really.
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Two legendary heroes merged into one, I am...Squallid Snake!

Fact or Fiction: Yoshi would do better against Mario than Bowser did.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

I wonder how many people made feedback tickets asking for this poll. I know HaRRicH and I did. And LOL at Yoshi winning again.

Another LOL goes out to people who actually think Peach has no fanbase. These ignorants need to cash in the respect points they think they're earning from bashing Peach for a ****ing clue.
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I would say fact. Bowser didn't even got 30% on Mario. At least 4% of those who voted for any other Mario character has to like Yoshi more than Mario.

It could be an interesting SFF match.
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Still, I must laugh at Peach for not being very far ahead of him.

And people still start with their Peach bashing. Again, how many people do you know that would list Peach as their favorite Mario character? Not many, besides probably a few original Mario Kart heads... I don't think she'd have a problem beating Toad at all.
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Fiction. 30% against Mario in a SFF match is actually pretty respectable. Seeing how Yoshi barely broke 30% against Mega Man, and how bad Link made him look, I don't see him coming close to beating Bowser's score.
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Who said I was bashing Peach? I just find it humorous that she's still down low on the totem pole, only a few hundred votes ahead of Waluigi, of all people. I honestly have nothing against her, but if it weren't for the Mario RPGs, I'd have no reason to care about her, really.

I stand by my original statement of Toad/Peach being a toss-up.
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Two legendary heroes merged into one, I am...Squallid Snake!

Again, how many people do you know that would list Peach as their favorite Mario character? Not many, besides probably a few original Mario Kart heads

You underestimate Horny Bastard Factor, which is something I've been looking into lately. Sa-weet!
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Also, we need a favorite Tales of Symphonia character poll...
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

You DO have to take that factor into consideration after Paper Mario: TTYD, I suppose.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Still no DK.... EC is not pleased.

And if you say he's not a Mario character I'll kill you ! !

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He's not a Mario character!
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As you wish.

Pssh, Donkey Kong would just get SFF'd here. We're trying to get accurate results!




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To note -- which I pointed out in my feedback ticket -- five of these characters have had their own games since the last poll (August of 2001). Five of them have been in SSBM since then too. The two that didn't get either advantage -- Toad and Waluigi -- are suffering from it (dropping 2.14% and 1.03%, respectively).

Also, Mario got the biggest jump, by far...and I'm looking for a cause for this. Sure, we could list off every game he's been in since the Gamecube came out, but he had his biggest contest-jump between 2k4 and 2k5, so let's look at that for a minute. What came out in that period of time? SM64DS...

...would anybody be willing to put THAT kind of credit into SM64DS, to make Mario that much bigger of a favorite?
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Compared to being able to play the same game with the likes of Luigi, Yoshi, and Wario? Not in the least. Heck, you start the game as Yoshi...

The answer: Super Mario Sunshine.
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As you wish.

I was thinkin' that at first, but LoZ:WW apparently didn't get much for Link and the only boost we saw for sure from SMS was in Mario/Cloud.
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I was thinkin' that at first, but LoZ:WW apparently didn't get much for Link and the only boost we saw for sure from SMS was in Mario/Cloud.

No boost from the Wind Waker is debatable. It solves the WDF if he did and just states that Mario got SFF'd, which is quite believable. There's really no way to know what kind of impact SMS had in the middle of the contest, especially since nobody that Mario faced before then has seen the light of day since, except for DK who he brutally SFF'd.

Either way, I'm not buying Mario 64 DS doing it. I always thought part of the appeal of it was being able to play as somebody besides Mario.
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As you wish.

I thought the appeal was being the first good game AND Mario game on the DS...heh, that works too though. I still wanna play it someday.....
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Being a Mario game on the DS is an appeal in and of itself, but I just kinda figured being able to play as somebody else was a big selling point. I wouldn't have bought it as a straight up port myself.
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As you wish.

*sexes Leon and gives him a heart attack*

You asked for it ! !

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Sure, if this isn't your first time owning the game. There are board members who were only 3 when the game came out, after all. Also, even if I don't have the desire to play Mario more than necessary, my love for Mario hasn't suddenly decreased.
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There are board members who were only 3 when the game came out, after all

...

Way to make me feel old.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Sure, if this isn't your first time owning the game. There are board members who were only 3 when the game came out, after all.

Wow... it doesn't seem like it's been 10 years at all. I still remember my first time playing that game, and it was amazing. Heh.

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It's hard for me to believe sometimes that kids are growing up without the awesomeness of all the systems from NES to N64. Throw all the other main companies in there too.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT GAMING IS.

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It was still more than a gaming generation after SM64 though, and it was supposed to have alot more stars too. Extra characters is icing on the cake for me, though I won't say that's the case for everybody.
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Desite SM64 being in my top 5 games of all time I don't own SM64DS. Hell I only played it once and it was for about 5 minutes. I'm perfectly content with my N64 version.

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...would anybody be willing to put THAT kind of credit into SM64DS, to make Mario that much bigger of a favorite?

Well, I was claiming this as soon as the 2K5 bracket was put out, and it was my main reasoning for having Mario win over Crono so... yeah.
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There are board members who were only 3 when the game came out, after all.

Good golly. How has video gaming survived as long as it has?
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There's always someone better.

Man, Super Mario 64 really is nearly 10 years old. It just doesn't feel like it at all.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Well, I was claiming this as soon as the 2K5 bracket was put out, and it was my main reasoning for having Mario win over Crono so... yeah.

Heh, yeah, I thought of you as soon as he said that, you were by far the biggest supporter of SM64DS pushing Mario over the top... not to mention Luigi. >______>

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Wow... it doesn't seem like it's been 10 years at all. I still remember my first time playing that game, and it was amazing. Heh.

Yeah, same. I thought that I was about to beat the game when I opened the first big door. When I beat Bowser, and realized There was still more game to play, I got very excited. >_>
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Super Mario 64 DS is quite different from the original in a lot of ways. I figured you'd be able to get all of the stars with any character you wanted, but alas. Not to mention, I haven't unlocked Luigi yet, so I'm still anxious.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Heh, yeah, I thought of you as soon as he said that, you were by far the biggest supporter of SM64DS pushing Mario over the top... not to mention Luigi. >______>

<_<

Well Luigi DID gain a lot. Tifa just ended up being stronger than I thought she would have been.
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Honestly, the best part of SM64DS is the mini-games. And I'm really pissed off that I lost my copy of it. I really like those mini-games. -_-
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Yeah, but so did everything Nintendo, including DK, so I don't think you can peg it solely on SM64DS. As for having Luigi > Tifa, that was like me having Dante > Vincent, except more off the wall. I expected Dante to boost to 30%, which he just about did, while others disregarded that, so I had Dante pegged pretty much head on, I just underestimated Vincent. (Just not as much as you. =P)

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*checks the gains for Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Yoshi from 2k4 to 2k5*

Wow, if the x-stats against Base Link are at all reliable, I was soooooo right about Mario 64 DS's effect. Even though 2k5 was my worst contest by a longshot, that makes me happy. :)
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MasterMage119/Adept of Aiur

Yeah, but so did everything Nintendo, including DK, so I don't think you can peg it solely on SM64DS. As for having Luigi > Tifa, that was like me having Dante > Vincent, except more off the wall. I expected Dante to boost to 30%, which he just about did, while others disregarded that, so I had Dante pegged pretty much head on, I just underestimated Vincent. (Just not as much as you. =P)

Meh at both of your points! I'll continue to believe that I was right about SM64DS! :)
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MasterMage119/Adept of Aiur

Well, let's look at it like this: Mario and Luigi jumped in 2k5...but Yoshi -- who you start off with -- didn't move based off of Laharl and Pac-Man. I think Wario is the fourth playable character, right? If so, we got no reading of him after 2k3 where he was behind Mario/Shadow...but as far as the Mario polls go, he's dropped nearly 2%.

Hmmm.....
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Kirby's boost was bigger than all of them!

Well, unless you believe that Squall's 2005 value was his true self, in which case Luigi and Kirby's gains aren't as huge.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

We really need another contest so we can all start yelling at each other and start the name calling. Then when one party finally is determined as being right, we can ostracize the other. <3 CS&D.

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Kirby's boost was bigger than all of them!

Well, unless you believe that Squall's 2005 value was his true self, in which case Luigi and Kirby's gains aren't as huge.

I was also saying that Kirby Canvas Curse would be huge for Kirby. :P
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MasterMage119/Adept of Aiur

Well, let's look at it like this: Mario and Luigi jumped in 2k5...but Yoshi -- who you start off with -- didn't move based off of Laharl and Pac-Man. I think Wario is the fourth playable character, right? If so, we got no reading of him after 2k3 where he was behind Mario/Shadow...but as far as the Mario polls go, he's dropped nearly 2%.

Hmmm.....

<_<

Are we seriously going to use the Mario polls for stat-related discussion?
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He he he...oh, MM119, seeing you quote Luigi > Tifa and Dante > Vincent in my presence makes me jolly. =P
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Well, based on a constant Laharl, Yoshi DID gain about 2%, which is rather small compared to everyone else though.

I won't even begin to comment on Pac-Man since we haven't had a good reading on him since the first contest. It was an SFF match anyway.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Well, unless you believe that Squall's 2005 value was his true self, in which case Luigi and Kirby's gains aren't as huge.

I don't personally... he has a very similar type of character to Vincent, meaning he appeals to the same general people, and well we all know FF7 > everything. I don't think he suffered great amounts, but a decently sized amount.

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Hopefully not, heh, but we gotta work with what we got.

I maintain Kirby got some minor rSFF against Bowser...like a percent.
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Pac will always be an anomaly, as will Master Chief.

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If Leonhart brings up DK's boost in regards to MC I'll castrate him... castrate ! !

It's not weird at all that Mario is doing much better now, compare the vote totals.
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We need Pac-Man/Master Chief.

Just because.
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Personally, I think holding Squall's 2005 value as true is rather reasonable, but we've had this debate before, so I won't go into it again.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden