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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 279
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 3/21/2006 3:56:26 PM | Message Detail
Fiction: Link still defeats Cloud if a rematch occurs in SC2K6. =p
Bah, I meant to include that one. Dunno how I forgot it.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Bah, I meant to include that one. Dunno how I forgot it.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 3/21/2006 3:58:19 PM | Message Detail
And Mega Man has the X Collection. Again, neither have much going for them.
I wasn't going to bring up compilations since they don't seem to do much, but Sonic had the Gems Collection himself.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
I wasn't going to bring up compilations since they don't seem to do much, but Sonic had the Gems Collection himself.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: FastFalcon05
| Posted: 3/21/2006 3:59:32 PM | Message Detail
wow, a double offence by me, as you were being serious. I never even
read the rest of the post; i figured it was about something else..
well then, I didn't play the game, there we go.
<_>
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
well then, I didn't play the game, there we go.
<_>
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
From: therealmnm
| Posted: 3/21/2006 4:00:47 PM | Message Detail
Mega Man X games are all about Zero anyways. X is a pansy. <_<;
But yeah, there's also Maverick Hunter X on the PSP which I don't think nobody mentioned.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire
But yeah, there's also Maverick Hunter X on the PSP which I don't think nobody mentioned.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire
From: Heroic Dr Wily
| Posted: 3/21/2006 4:18:57 PM | Message Detail
Mega Man still beats Sonic, probably easier this time as well, since
Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Riders aren't well recived and no one
cares abouts the games in Gems Collection (Heck, I've even seen people
hate Sonic CD after playing Gems).
Mega Man has the X collection, which has some of his best games and the two remakes on PSP which are very well made and MMPU contains a lot of fanservice (New bosses Time Man and Oil Man and the orginal Robot masters + Roll and Proto Man are now playable and the level editor and monthly downloads from Capcom will keep the game alive for months) and the PSP is starting to go like the Xbox by gaing less hate and being more respected (not so much on this board since it's so DS heavy) also Mega Man has a new series for the DS as well.
Mega Man Battle Network also ended recently which is wanted gone for a while.
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Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus
Mega Man has the X collection, which has some of his best games and the two remakes on PSP which are very well made and MMPU contains a lot of fanservice (New bosses Time Man and Oil Man and the orginal Robot masters + Roll and Proto Man are now playable and the level editor and monthly downloads from Capcom will keep the game alive for months) and the PSP is starting to go like the Xbox by gaing less hate and being more respected (not so much on this board since it's so DS heavy) also Mega Man has a new series for the DS as well.
Mega Man Battle Network also ended recently which is wanted gone for a while.
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Even my explosion is beautiful!~Launch Octopus
From: Haste2
| Posted: 3/21/2006 4:44:27 PM | Message Detail
Too many Fact/Fictions...now the topic will be cluttered with answers to these for a while!
Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6. The Noble Nine will never lose.
Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
There will never be an upset within the Noble Nine.
Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Squall already boosted with KH1...his boost won't as much as Vincent's with Dirge of Cerberus and possibly FF:AC.
Fiction: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I just feel it in me bones.
Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Not an easy decision...but Pac had a pretty big pic advantage last year.
Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I guess.
Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Whatever.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Obvious here.
Meh, I have to do the rest later...
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6. The Noble Nine will never lose.
Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
There will never be an upset within the Noble Nine.
Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Squall already boosted with KH1...his boost won't as much as Vincent's with Dirge of Cerberus and possibly FF:AC.
Fiction: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I just feel it in me bones.
Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Not an easy decision...but Pac had a pretty big pic advantage last year.
Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I guess.
Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Whatever.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Obvious here.
Meh, I have to do the rest later...
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/21/2006 5:37:44 PM | Message Detail
The best characters should be in several matches, not just one or two.
I like MegaMan as much as the next guy, but if given the choice between seeing him at work in 4 Contest matches (say, an owning of CATS, a destruction of Tommy, an SFFing of DK, then jobbing hard to Link again) or being in only 2 in the Gauntlet (an anticipated Sonic rematch, and an interesting NSFF affair with Samus), I do believe I'd take the latter.
"But, he COULD be set up for those two battles in a normal bracket!" Maybe, but we'd miss out on Snake/Sonic, and then the Sam/MM winner would be owned by Clinkeroth/Mario yet again, instead of meeting an interesting opponent like Crono. Unless, of course, you make Clinkerioth the #1s on the entire other side of the bracket. Good luck seeing a rising star like Vincent make any impact whatsoever under that format.
What would be in the best interest of the contest would be to leave the Noble Nine in. Taking them out doesn't particularly alter the predictability significantly.
...excuse me? I'm sorry Mmage, but were you not watching during the last Summer Contest featuring the entire Noble Nine? To refresh your memory, that was the one where 5 different people had prediction scores of 191, where over 66% of the most casual predictors imaginable realized all along that Link would be in the final, and well more than half knew he'd be facing Cloud there. Are we banking on the fact that after one year in the ToC, 2/3 of the site will have forgotten that Clinkeroth are untouchable in a Contest setting?
How does a bracket involving Elite Eight clashes between Vincent, Bowser, Ganon, Tifa, Aeris, Squall, Kirby and Zelda not "significantly alter" bracket predictability? Because they're "locks" to get to that Elite Eight? I'm afraid even that assumption isn't true, in the face of characters like Auron, post-KHII Sora, post-SMB Luigi, and others. None of whom, incidently, have the slimmest chance of contending with Solid Snake, much less any of the other NNers who will be steamrolling them yet again under your traditional format.
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I like MegaMan as much as the next guy, but if given the choice between seeing him at work in 4 Contest matches (say, an owning of CATS, a destruction of Tommy, an SFFing of DK, then jobbing hard to Link again) or being in only 2 in the Gauntlet (an anticipated Sonic rematch, and an interesting NSFF affair with Samus), I do believe I'd take the latter.
"But, he COULD be set up for those two battles in a normal bracket!" Maybe, but we'd miss out on Snake/Sonic, and then the Sam/MM winner would be owned by Clinkeroth/Mario yet again, instead of meeting an interesting opponent like Crono. Unless, of course, you make Clinkerioth the #1s on the entire other side of the bracket. Good luck seeing a rising star like Vincent make any impact whatsoever under that format.
What would be in the best interest of the contest would be to leave the Noble Nine in. Taking them out doesn't particularly alter the predictability significantly.
...excuse me? I'm sorry Mmage, but were you not watching during the last Summer Contest featuring the entire Noble Nine? To refresh your memory, that was the one where 5 different people had prediction scores of 191, where over 66% of the most casual predictors imaginable realized all along that Link would be in the final, and well more than half knew he'd be facing Cloud there. Are we banking on the fact that after one year in the ToC, 2/3 of the site will have forgotten that Clinkeroth are untouchable in a Contest setting?
How does a bracket involving Elite Eight clashes between Vincent, Bowser, Ganon, Tifa, Aeris, Squall, Kirby and Zelda not "significantly alter" bracket predictability? Because they're "locks" to get to that Elite Eight? I'm afraid even that assumption isn't true, in the face of characters like Auron, post-KHII Sora, post-SMB Luigi, and others. None of whom, incidently, have the slimmest chance of contending with Solid Snake, much less any of the other NNers who will be steamrolling them yet again under your traditional format.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/21/2006 11:18:25 PM | Message Detail
Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Yeesh...tough.
Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Anybody thinking MMXC is going to help Mega Man more than Sonic Rush/Shadow the Hedgehog AND more appeal to the upcoming generation of gamers the 360 could bring in needs to think a bit harder. Remember MM:AC? That came out June 2k4, and the only matches he looked any better than normal in was against Tidus and Solid Snake, both of which were because of Tidus and Solid Snake. Heck, you would almost think that Mega Man would have been able to SFF/prevent rSFF against Zero -- who has no showing in MM:AC -- if it actually brought the fans in. Now, MMXC came out in January...granted, newer than either of Sonic's two main releases, but it will not bring a boost to Mega Man. The match was plenty close anyways and Sonic/Knuckles saw a big jump last year, so I'd take Sonic.
I say all of this with Mega Man being my favorite character.
Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Gut.
Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Gut.
Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I think Dr. Wily would still only barely beat Nemesis.
Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Proudly, too.
Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Pretty confident.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
KH2.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Halo 2 and 360 likely haven't done him much good...but the two of them can get him seven votes.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Another barn-burner though...tough.
Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Seeing how Sonic/Knuckles gained last year, Shadow might have been able to beat Tidus in 2k5...and, if not, having his own multi-platform game can't hurt.
Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Sorry Fisher.
Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
We've now seen Hayabusa be a lil' stronger with his best picture, and there's the off-chance Mario SFF'd Zero. It'd still be close though.
Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Old news, that Max guy.
Fiction: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Just because the pick is fun to make. =)
Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Nobody needs to underestimate Tails here though. Sonic/Knuckles saw the large gains, two games released since last contest, and we last saw Tails behind Sonic/Dante (where Dante could have underperformed). Also, in 2k2, Tails got...almost 45% on Alucard, I think? Now, in 2k5, adjusting Alucard by Sora 2k4 has him within Tails striking distance.
Alucard would still probably win though, but Tails could pull it off.
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Yeesh...tough.
Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Anybody thinking MMXC is going to help Mega Man more than Sonic Rush/Shadow the Hedgehog AND more appeal to the upcoming generation of gamers the 360 could bring in needs to think a bit harder. Remember MM:AC? That came out June 2k4, and the only matches he looked any better than normal in was against Tidus and Solid Snake, both of which were because of Tidus and Solid Snake. Heck, you would almost think that Mega Man would have been able to SFF/prevent rSFF against Zero -- who has no showing in MM:AC -- if it actually brought the fans in. Now, MMXC came out in January...granted, newer than either of Sonic's two main releases, but it will not bring a boost to Mega Man. The match was plenty close anyways and Sonic/Knuckles saw a big jump last year, so I'd take Sonic.
I say all of this with Mega Man being my favorite character.
Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Gut.
Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Gut.
Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I think Dr. Wily would still only barely beat Nemesis.
Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Proudly, too.
Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Pretty confident.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
KH2.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Halo 2 and 360 likely haven't done him much good...but the two of them can get him seven votes.
Fiction: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Another barn-burner though...tough.
Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Seeing how Sonic/Knuckles gained last year, Shadow might have been able to beat Tidus in 2k5...and, if not, having his own multi-platform game can't hurt.
Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Sorry Fisher.
Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
We've now seen Hayabusa be a lil' stronger with his best picture, and there's the off-chance Mario SFF'd Zero. It'd still be close though.
Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Old news, that Max guy.
Fiction: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Just because the pick is fun to make. =)
Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Nobody needs to underestimate Tails here though. Sonic/Knuckles saw the large gains, two games released since last contest, and we last saw Tails behind Sonic/Dante (where Dante could have underperformed). Also, in 2k2, Tails got...almost 45% on Alucard, I think? Now, in 2k5, adjusting Alucard by Sora 2k4 has him within Tails striking distance.
Alucard would still probably win though, but Tails could pull it off.
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From: MarioSuperstar
| Posted: 3/22/2006 3:39:55 AM | Message Detail
I feel more closer and closer to a Female Spring Contest..
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From: consolefreak
| Posted: 3/22/2006 4:10:23 AM | Message Detail
PS - "Get a life" type internet flames are the dumbest kind. j00 spend time on t3h intrawebz j00 must haev no lief LOL
Right..
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 3/20/2006 1:30:27 PM | Message Detail
Intranets. Serious biz-nass.
...
It's not like they have anything better to do but nitpick and respond to every point with inane nonsense, anyway.
Still using the void works-against-everything "argument", are we? Strong one too.
Also, I thought "get a life" type flames were of the dumbest kind?
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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"
Right..
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 3/20/2006 1:30:27 PM | Message Detail
Intranets. Serious biz-nass.
...
It's not like they have anything better to do but nitpick and respond to every point with inane nonsense, anyway.
Still using the void works-against-everything "argument", are we? Strong one too.
Also, I thought "get a life" type flames were of the dumbest kind?
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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 3/22/2006 6:17:44 AM | Message Detail
Too bad you just proved his point.
Seriously, if you want to argue, take it elsewhere. Don't do it here.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
Seriously, if you want to argue, take it elsewhere. Don't do it here.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: consolefreak
| Posted: 3/22/2006 6:20:38 AM | Message Detail
Too bad you just proved his point.
Seriously, if you want to argue, take it elsewhere. Don't do it here.
Responding to everything during an argument isn't much of a point, if you ask me. But I do do that.
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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"
Seriously, if you want to argue, take it elsewhere. Don't do it here.
Responding to everything during an argument isn't much of a point, if you ask me. But I do do that.
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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"
From: ssknuxmagician
| Posted: 3/22/2006 7:00:23 AM | Message Detail
So who thinks there should be any company cap next year?
I personally don't know. On one hand, we have more interesting and stronger 7 and 8 seeds like (Zidane, Rikku), but I think since there was no cap, we missed characters like Tails, Shadow, etc.
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The Travis Porn.
I personally don't know. On one hand, we have more interesting and stronger 7 and 8 seeds like (Zidane, Rikku), but I think since there was no cap, we missed characters like Tails, Shadow, etc.
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The Travis Porn.
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:39:34 AM | Message Detail
I dislike the cap, and I hope it doesn't come back.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:52:08 AM | Message Detail
Holy smokes, are you guys seeing these age numbers? One of the big
ideas has been that the site has "grown up" since 2003, and because
GameFAQs is attracting an older crowd now, they're more like to vote
based on NES/SNES nostalgia, which explains in part the Nintendo Boost
for characters like Mario and Luigi.
So far, today's numbers appear to be bearing that out... about 67% of the site is currently 18 years old or older. Now, naturally, this number is going to come down once high schools start letting out, but still...
TRE, how do these numbers compare to what we saw in the last poll, and to what the situation was like pre-2003 Summer Contest?
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So far, today's numbers appear to be bearing that out... about 67% of the site is currently 18 years old or older. Now, naturally, this number is going to come down once high schools start letting out, but still...
TRE, how do these numbers compare to what we saw in the last poll, and to what the situation was like pre-2003 Summer Contest?
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 11:04:06 AM | Message Detail
Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
I think Dr. Wily would still only barely beat Nemesis.
...I meant fact.
I think since there was no cap, we missed characters like Tails, Shadow, etc.
I figure it's because of the lack of nominations, myself. Hard to tell though.....
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I think Dr. Wily would still only barely beat Nemesis.
...I meant fact.
I think since there was no cap, we missed characters like Tails, Shadow, etc.
I figure it's because of the lack of nominations, myself. Hard to tell though.....
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 11:06:33 AM | Message Detail
Ngamer, I had no idea that theory was being thrown around. I'm not
about to say if it's right or wrong -- because, ya know, I don't know
-- but it's the first time I've seen anything about it.
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From: Mac Arrowny
| Posted: 3/22/2006 11:09:19 AM | Message Detail
I love how that works in gaming. The little kids vote for games like
GTA and Halo, while adults vote for Mario, Zelda, and Kirby. It's good
stuff.
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From: MarioSuperstar
| Posted: 3/22/2006 1:17:47 PM | Message Detail
I love how that works in gaming. The little kids vote for games like
GTA and Halo, while adults vote for Mario, Zelda, and Kirby. It's good
stuff.
Heh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The youngins being so young, starting gaming around the 6th generation while the older people stem from the 8-bit/16-bit generations (and maybe even some from the 32-64-bit).
You know, this would probably also explain maybe why Pac-Man and Donkey Kong aren't all that popular even though they were big in Arcade Ages.
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Heh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The youngins being so young, starting gaming around the 6th generation while the older people stem from the 8-bit/16-bit generations (and maybe even some from the 32-64-bit).
You know, this would probably also explain maybe why Pac-Man and Donkey Kong aren't all that popular even though they were big in Arcade Ages.
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From: trannyscience
| Posted: 3/22/2006 1:23:59 PM | Message Detail
if you're 18, that means you were born in 1988, and that you probably
"grew up" with the end of the SNES era or the n64 era. I don't think
the site is shifting towards older people, just that the same
population that we've had for a long time is aging. I wouldn't expect
the average 18 year old to know the NES intimately.
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xyzzy
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From: Meteorush
| Posted: 3/22/2006 3:57:00 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I'm only 17 but I still remember the NES as my first system, then
I got a Genesis not too late after that, and the SNES at the very end
of it's life. Genesis is by far my most nostalgic system though.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 3/22/2006 4:32:54 PM | Message Detail
FFTA outsold FFT by miles!
And yes, the company cap shouldn't return.
~*ST*~
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Currently Playing: Deus Ex, FFTA, MMX5, C&C, FF4A
And yes, the company cap shouldn't return.
~*ST*~
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 3/22/2006 5:08:52 PM | Message Detail
TRE, how do these numbers compare to what we saw in the last poll, and to what the situation was like pre-2003 Summer Contest?
The most receint poll I can find about age is this one:
09/22/2003
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1386
Before that we have these:
09/10/2002
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1011
09/30/2001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=668
08/05/2000
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=249
12/20/1999
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=21
These polls may also be of interest:
(11/14/2005) How old were you when you played your first video game?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2195
(03/23/2000) How old were you when you played your first video game?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=114
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"Why did I become a lawyer in the first place...? Because someone has to look out for the people who have no one on their side." ~Phoenix Wright
The most receint poll I can find about age is this one:
09/22/2003
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1386
Before that we have these:
09/10/2002
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1011
09/30/2001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=668
08/05/2000
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=249
12/20/1999
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=21
These polls may also be of interest:
(11/14/2005) How old were you when you played your first video game?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2195
(03/23/2000) How old were you when you played your first video game?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=114
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 7:56:00 PM | Message Detail
Wait, the older gamer idea was never passed around here in Stats? Hm...
well, it's an explanation for the Nintendo Boost that me and KM talked
about a bit on AIM over the last Summer. Anyways, let's see what the
numbers say. Assuming the percent stays about where it was a half hour
ago, then...
Two months after Cloud defeated Link by 4761 votes, 47.21% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42041 out of 89049 voters.)
Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
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Two months after Cloud defeated Link by 4761 votes, 47.21% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42041 out of 89049 voters.)
Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:08:10 PM | Message Detail
Here was our original convo, from 8/30/05 (the day before Dante played Vincent).
(on the topic of the Boost)
Im Ngamer (12:56:29 AM): I just think it's the biggest voter pool shift we've seen, and it seems younger and more casual
Im Ngamer (12:56:44 AM): and thus the older characters aren't getting the same respect they did in the past
KingMorgoth42 (12:56:42 AM): maybe not younger
KingMorgoth42 (12:57:43 AM): I think it's older voters...
Im Ngamer (12:58:01 AM): then shouldn't Terra and Cecil do better?
Im Ngamer (12:58:15 AM): if these are older gamers who experienced these classic FF titles
KingMorgoth42 (12:58:42 AM): we have no real info on any of them yet...
and I'd have expected Cecil to suck, especially with amano art
Im Ngamer (12:58:37 AM): rather than a boost for everyone from the big game of the past 3 years, SSB Melee
Im Ngamer (12:59:17 AM): I guess you could make a case for that, it's the older ones giving Nintendo the boost
Im Ngamer (12:59:27 AM): it goes against the Nintendo fanbase reputation
KingMorgoth42 (12:59:35 AM): Kids don't play nintendo anymore, it's kiddie =P
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(on the topic of the Boost)
Im Ngamer (12:56:29 AM): I just think it's the biggest voter pool shift we've seen, and it seems younger and more casual
Im Ngamer (12:56:44 AM): and thus the older characters aren't getting the same respect they did in the past
KingMorgoth42 (12:56:42 AM): maybe not younger
KingMorgoth42 (12:57:43 AM): I think it's older voters...
Im Ngamer (12:58:01 AM): then shouldn't Terra and Cecil do better?
Im Ngamer (12:58:15 AM): if these are older gamers who experienced these classic FF titles
KingMorgoth42 (12:58:42 AM): we have no real info on any of them yet...
and I'd have expected Cecil to suck, especially with amano art
Im Ngamer (12:58:37 AM): rather than a boost for everyone from the big game of the past 3 years, SSB Melee
Im Ngamer (12:59:17 AM): I guess you could make a case for that, it's the older ones giving Nintendo the boost
Im Ngamer (12:59:27 AM): it goes against the Nintendo fanbase reputation
KingMorgoth42 (12:59:35 AM): Kids don't play nintendo anymore, it's kiddie =P
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From: trannyscience
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:11:07 PM | Message Detail
Two months after Cloud defeated Link by 4761 votes, 47.21% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42041 out of 89049 voters.)
Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
this is dangerous logic - there may or may not be a relationship there.
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Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
this is dangerous logic - there may or may not be a relationship there.
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:24:12 PM | Message Detail
That's why Age Shift is currently a point of discussion, rather than a hard-fact Boost explanation.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:44:38 PM | Message Detail
While interesting, what intrigues me more is what caused this. Are
GameFAQs-visitors a very-large-yet-specific group that's simply aged
here? Are we seeing GameFAQs trying to catch up to the trend of all
gamers aging and growing older (I've read the average gamer's age is 30
awhile back)? Has there been a release of a game or system that brought
in the older gamers here, intentionally or not?
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From: Buy A Dreamcast
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:46:44 PM | Message Detail
Wait wait wait. Do you mean to tell me that, over the course of a year, people got a year older?!??!?!
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 3/22/2006 8:52:54 PM | Message Detail
Umm, people do get older as the years progress. That is the most
logical explanation of it all. I really do not put any backing behind
your little idea there.
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 9:23:27 PM | Message Detail
Cute, Mmage. And since our voting pool never changes from year to year,
I suppose the average GameFAQs age was 11 in 1999? Will it be 25 in
2013?
The idea has always been that the GameFAQs demographic consists almost entirely of teenage boys. Take a look at those past polls; it was true for many years, but is not a fact any longer. It hardly seems absurd to point out that the influx of new, younger gamers has slowed over the past two years (as this poll points to), and that this shift could have something to do with a shift in voter tastes.
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The idea has always been that the GameFAQs demographic consists almost entirely of teenage boys. Take a look at those past polls; it was true for many years, but is not a fact any longer. It hardly seems absurd to point out that the influx of new, younger gamers has slowed over the past two years (as this poll points to), and that this shift could have something to do with a shift in voter tastes.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 9:30:57 PM | Message Detail
Heh...I smiled. That said, you're missing the point. People don't stay
at GameFAQs forever, and it appeals to a particular demographic that
probably changes based off of games released.
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From: Team Rocket Elite
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:03:20 PM | Message Detail
Two months after Cloud defeated Link by 4761 votes, 47.21% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42041 out of 89049 voters.)
Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
Nine days after Link finished decimating the 2k2 field, 45.44% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (30487 out of 67088 voters.)
09/30/2001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=668
38.72% 18 or older
08/05/2000
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=249
35.51% 18 or older(estimated)
12/20/1999
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=21
38.9% 18 or older(estimated)
I don't think there is much you can draw from this other than GameFAQs users are on average getting older.
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Five months after Link defeated Cloud by 5817 votes, 55.95% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (42391 out of 75773 voters.)
Nine days after Link finished decimating the 2k2 field, 45.44% of GameFAQs was 18 years old or older. (30487 out of 67088 voters.)
09/30/2001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=668
38.72% 18 or older
08/05/2000
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=249
35.51% 18 or older(estimated)
12/20/1999
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=21
38.9% 18 or older(estimated)
I don't think there is much you can draw from this other than GameFAQs users are on average getting older.
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From: therealmnm
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:12:09 PM | Message Detail
Heh...I smiled. That said, you're missing the point. People don't
stay at GameFAQs forever, and it appeals to a particular demographic
that probably changes based off of games released.
Exactly. The age thing has little to do with the influx of voters on the site. That is almost entirely dependent on the games released at a particular time. One would only expect the age to gradually increase. It's not like people are hitting an age and all of a sudden saying "Hmmm, I'm getting too old for gaming! I think I'll stop!"
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Exactly. The age thing has little to do with the influx of voters on the site. That is almost entirely dependent on the games released at a particular time. One would only expect the age to gradually increase. It's not like people are hitting an age and all of a sudden saying "Hmmm, I'm getting too old for gaming! I think I'll stop!"
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:18:39 PM | Message Detail
Which speaks against my original assumption, that Nintendo's best year
would have to correspond to an influx of younger gamers who vote
Nintendo because these are the characters they recognize from the Smash
Bros and Mario Kart games they've played. A further dispelling of the
already uncredible Nintendo voting block as "kiddie" myth.
Still, I think KM was right, that nostalgia has played a role in the transition to Ulti's "NintendoFAQs," though perhaps the general unproductiveness of Square the past two years has been a larger factor than "Age Shift" or if you prefer, "growing up".
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Still, I think KM was right, that nostalgia has played a role in the transition to Ulti's "NintendoFAQs," though perhaps the general unproductiveness of Square the past two years has been a larger factor than "Age Shift" or if you prefer, "growing up".
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:23:02 PM | Message Detail
The transition is a rather simple one that does not have anything to do
with ones age: Nintendo has been on something of a roll since E3 2004
whereas Square has yet to produce something widely accepted and huge
since Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts. When one company is pumping
out big title after big title and getting a lot of attention it is
going to overshadow the other when they are doing nothing notable.
That does look to change, though. Square has quite a few things that is getting them back into the spotlight with their huge releases.
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That does look to change, though. Square has quite a few things that is getting them back into the spotlight with their huge releases.
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From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:26:04 PM | Message Detail
I remember when we thought Kingdom Hearts II, Final Fantasy XII, and
maybe even Dirge of Cerberus would be out by the 2005 contest.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 10:58:02 PM | Message Detail
FF:AC, too, heh.
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From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 3/22/2006 11:08:36 PM | Message Detail
Is Advent Children out yet?
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 3/22/2006 11:12:41 PM | Message Detail
In Japan. I think it comes out to America in...April?
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From: voltch
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:03:39 AM | Message Detail
so this year ought to be massive if we get big titles from both company's coming out?
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:08:06 AM | Message Detail
Just to recap on some of Square's titles ...
Kingdom Hearts II -- March 28th, 2006.
Final Fantasy VII : Advent Children -- April 25th, 2006.
Final Fantasy VII : Dirge of Cerberus -- June 1st, 2006.
Final Fantasy XII -- August - November 2006 (speculated that it may release early)
The biggest game for Nintendo at this point is New Super Mario Bros. which releases May 15th, 2006.
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Kingdom Hearts II -- March 28th, 2006.
Final Fantasy VII : Advent Children -- April 25th, 2006.
Final Fantasy VII : Dirge of Cerberus -- June 1st, 2006.
Final Fantasy XII -- August - November 2006 (speculated that it may release early)
The biggest game for Nintendo at this point is New Super Mario Bros. which releases May 15th, 2006.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:10:22 AM | Message Detail
we're so close to KhII
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From: DSRage_Revived
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:18:42 AM | Message Detail
I know voltch....I .....cant....breathe........5 days left...
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From: therealmnm
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:19:19 AM | Message Detail
Yep. Already got KHII pre-ordered. And I finally got to playing
MGS3:Subsistence. And I managed not to have the whole thing spoiled for
me! So far, the game kicks ass. I'm liking it much better than MGS2, and I only just got past the Virtuous Mission.
And yes, the Snake Eater theme song rocks. I had no idea it would sound like that... It was definitely channeled some of those old school 70s type themes.
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And yes, the Snake Eater theme song rocks. I had no idea it would sound like that... It was definitely channeled some of those old school 70s type themes.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:21:11 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and that bit about Nintendo assumes that these rapidly spreading
rumors of Nintendo launching the Revolution in June do not hold true.
But, there are some things that point to it actually being the case ...
Anyway, new Zelda trailer today = HM happy! Yeah ... nothing to do with the contest.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:26:02 AM | Message Detail
i wonder if subsistence,a game that brings snake to online play will make solid snake more popular in the contests.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:28:41 AM | Message Detail
Heh. I never even thought about Subsistence possibly helping Snake out. Interesting to see if it will do anything for him.
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From: transience
| Posted: 3/23/2006 12:43:33 AM | Message Detail
00:45 am:
Where are you?
Australia 9.03% 187
Canada 9.27% 192
Mainland Europe 10.62% 220
United Kingdom 8.16% 169
United States 52.61% 1090
Other 10.33% 214
TOTAL VOTES 2072
the so-called "Europe vote".
Where are you?
Australia 9.03% 187
Canada 9.27% 192
Mainland Europe 10.62% 220
United Kingdom 8.16% 169
United States 52.61% 1090
Other 10.33% 214
TOTAL VOTES 2072
the so-called "Europe vote".
From: transience
| Posted: 3/23/2006 3:51:05 AM | Message Detail
and one more before bed - 03:50
Where are you?
Australia 9.65% 808
Canada 8.22% 689
Mainland Europe 14.06% 1178
United Kingdom 10.8% 905
United States 44.18% 3701
Other 13.08% 1096
TOTAL VOTES 8377
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Where are you?
Australia 9.65% 808
Canada 8.22% 689
Mainland Europe 14.06% 1178
United Kingdom 10.8% 905
United States 44.18% 3701
Other 13.08% 1096
TOTAL VOTES 8377
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