prince will either exceed excpectations or simply disapoint really.
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Because GoW has seemingly been more critically acclaimed everywhere than the PoP series -- even here on GameFAQs, it feels like. PoP has an edge in some things like sharing the name with the series, but at the same time, we've seen in GotY polls how the PoP games do.

I'm not sold.
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Yeah, if you read ONE post up you'd have realised EC was a huge fanboy of PoP. (Not a bad thing)

Like I said, I had made my post in response to his sarcastic comment. Whether or not he was a fanboy of the Prince never really was an issue.

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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"

Because GoW has seemingly been more critically acclaimed everywhere than the PoP series -- even here on GameFAQs, it feels like. PoP has an edge in some things like sharing the name with the series, but at the same time, we've seen in GotY polls how the PoP games do.

The biggest PoP games was The Sands of Time, which was pretty much equal to God of War. The others are just gravy, and only serve to bring the Prince's potential up by a percent or two. SoT did about as well as FFTA in the GotY poll, and FFTA was stronger than Street Fighter 2, despite being SFF'd by FFX. That's certainly not an awful performance.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

prince will either exceed excpectations or simply disapoint really.

Is there any other possibility for any new character? This is seriously obvious.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

For no particular reason, here is a list of every contest entrant whose name has been branded across his games. Note that I did not include characters who only had a part of their names in the title (Joanna Dark) or ones who had their names kind of lost in the title (Legacy of Kain, Mega Man Zero, etc.). They are listed in a very general order of strength:

Mario
Mega Man
Sonic the Hedgehog
Kirby
Zelda
Yoshi
Shadow the Hedgehog
Donkey Kong
Diablo
Wario
Bomberman
Strider
Pac-Man
Viewtiful Joe
Duke Nukem
Max Payne
Crash Bandicoot
Jak
Conker
Earthworm Jim
Sly Cooper
Ratchet
Parappa the Rapper
Serious Sam
Ms. Pac-Man
Mr. Driller


Now, for no particular reason, where would you rank The Prince of Persia?

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Between Wario and Diablo, for me. Easy win over Wario (at least 52% :p), close match with Diablo.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Like I said, I had made my post in response to his sarcastic comment.

The fact that you know his post was sarcasm and bothered going ape**** on it saddens me.

Intranets. Serious biz-nass.

~*ST*~
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XD, I'm further convinced that consolefreak is one of the biggest asses on this board, now if only I were to find out he's a bible beater.

And whether or not I was a supporter of Prince was a very big issue in your post, I suggest you go read it again.

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Cheer Up Sexual Delinquents

Joanna Dark

I never realized that until just now. Perfect DARK

wowzers.
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Wow indeed.
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As you wish.

You listed Shadow but not Tails?

Tails Adventures, Tails' Sky Patrol?

I mean, they weren't impactful at all but still >.>
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DA-DING Da-Ding da-ding-ding!

What the duce Ffal? They mention that Jo's nickname is "Perfect" several times during the story.

Cue freshly qualified Agent Joanna Dark, code-named Perfect Dark thanks to her
unprecedented achievements in training. Her first real assignment could hardly
be of more importance: infiltrate the dataDyne skyscraper, locate Dr. Caroll,
and bring him back to the Institute undetected and unharmed.

And thanks for the support, XIII. Now if only we could get Chichiri on the bandwagon...

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I love discovering things that were supposed to be obvious.

I kid you not, it took until SSBM for me to get why Mewtwo was named Mewtwo despite me having Pokemon R/B from the first week.

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eh?
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Ah, there's the man himself!

Chic, don't you think the best idea for the coming summer would be to run a main bracket without the Noble Nine, but with all Nine placed in a Noble Nine Gauntlet? Here's how I explained my noNN bracket last topic.


I loved that "no noble nine" debate from last page; we haven't had such a spirited Contest Champion discussion in... well, ever. You could make a good case for post-DoC Vincent, post-Mario Bros Bowser, post-KHII Squall, post-KHII and AC Tifa or Aeris, or even pre-TP Ganon or Zelda.

And yet, and yet, I get the impression that a majority of Gurus are against the idea of a noNN main bracket being used this summer. That's why I went ahead and created a noNN bracket a couple days ago, to give us a live example of how exciting such a contest could be.

However, let's not throw out our big guns entirely! My suggestion is that, following the main bracket, we ask our 2006 Champion to run "The Noble Nine Gauntlet." This allows for a comparison to be made all the way up to Link, creates several great Noble Nine matchups we would otherwise miss, and doesn't extend the Contest overly long. Our 06 Summer Contest would run a total of 72 days, as opposed to 05's 66.

And let's not forget how many new opportunities such a bracket would create! By removing the NN and dropping the characters who were outperformed by CATS last year, I was able to open up a whole 22 new spots. That's a whole lot of fresh blood to keep things interesting!
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Comments: Unlike a standard bracket, a noNN doesn't have to rely solely on manufacturing interesting/debatable battles in rounds one and two. With characters like Zelda and Kirby in the one-spots in place of Snake and Sonic, 60/40 matches become 50/50. Is Kirby a lock over Frog? How about Knuckles? What about a post-KHII Sora? And Ganon was able to get the job done, but can Zelda hold off a post-KHII Auron in similar fashion?

The Elite Eight and onwards is turned from a yawner (with one or two potential new NN matchups) into a Square/Nintendo slugfest between largely untested characters. Then the main contest ends, and we get the best of both worlds! #10 will be granted the perfect opportunity to finally snap the Noble Nine's untouchable win streak. If he manages it, he can go right on up the line... but if he doesn't have the strength, we're still rewarded with 3 all-new NN battles, 1 heated rematch, and the Link/Cloud Final that everyone is dying to see!
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The example bracket I developed can be found here, if you're on 50 posts a page.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26692544&page=8

But that specific example isn't really the focus here... it's the noNN idea we need your support for.

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You listed Shadow but not Tails?

Tails Adventures, Tails' Sky Patrol?

I mean, they weren't impactful at all but still >.>

Dammit someone were faster than me >_>

But Knuckles isn't on the list either, and Knuckles Chaotix was the main reason why anyone bought a 32-X

:P
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The fact that you know his post was sarcasm and bothered going ape**** on it saddens me.

I went ape****? In only responded with similar sarcasm.

Intranets. Serious biz-nass.

Says the man who spends about 10 times as much time on this board than I. But oh yeah, I am the one who thinks internet is serious business.

XD, I'm further convinced that consolefreak is one of the biggest asses on this board, now if only I were to find out he's a bible beater.

I'm the ass now? That's nice.


And whether or not I was a supporter of Prince was a very big issue in your post, I suggest you go read it again.

My issue was with you not saying any relevant to the discussion, not whether or not you were agreeing with my point of view. I suggest you go reading it again.
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"Now I realise.. I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth.
I was being summoned by Sephiroth"

Oh. Sorry, a N9-free bracket is just no good. It's a rather arbitrary disignation, really, and unlike champions it's arguable (for those of us not in the know) which characters actually deserve to be set aside. I mean, really, Bowser nearly went even with Snake last year. Doesn't that indicate that maybe Bowser only needs one more game to be up there with the bottom of our "Noble Nine"? It's not clearly defined enough of a grouping for ceej to justify splitting it up from the rest of the bracket.
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Yeah, a non-Noble Nine bracket is a nice idea, but there's really not much justification for pulling them out (Yes, they're undefeated against everyone but themselves, but you can say that about several other characters as well).
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Just to go back to the PoP/Kratos discussion for a sec, adjusting Sora to his 2k4 level puts Kratos right at Tommy Vercetti's level (21.28%, I think; I forget exactly what it was)...I would put PoP at about 19%-20%. I think that's reasonable enough.

I think CJay could get away with that noNN idea by simply saying that those nine...and one more...were the ten most-nominated characters. Whoever the tenth character was, let them be first in the gauntlet (MC? Sora? Squall? Somebody'll who'll seed high for sure), then the other nine be the Noble Nine in a tricky order. Yeah, it may take away one more great competitor from the brawl bound to ensure in the bracket, but I still think it leads up nicely to the guantlet AND justifies it.
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I really don't think that justifies it either, and I don't know how many people want their favorite characters relegated to one or two matches. Heck, the guesswork leading up to later rounds is part of the fun of the bracket, and you get rid of some of that by taking out the Noble Nine. Last year, the "Who's gonna take down Snake?" debate was one of the big points. Fun stuff.

Whoever the tenth character was, let them be first in the gauntlet

What if it's Kirby? Heh, most people probably won't feel that's a "justified" decision. He certainly doesn't have the feel of a character of that caliber, even if he's the only character not named Cloud or Link to get at least 44.99% in every match he's ever been in.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

I personally like the Round Robin idea myself, but I think it would be difficult to implement because it would lengthen the duration of the contest unless you either reduced the number of characters or ran multiple matches per day (which would likely lower vote totals).
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

C'mon Spring Contest....
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You have no chance to survive make your time.

I don't see how "these are the ten characters people most want to see" justifies taking those ten out of the contest.

The fact that these are the most popular characters is alone a good reason for keeping them in the contest. We have to remember that most people outside board 8 aren't as hardcore as we are. Most of them don't know about the noble nine, so they'd rather have their favorite character than a bracket that's harder (for us) to predict. With Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth, many of the casuals are already aware that they're a cut above everyone else, so it was easier to justify taking them out. But one look at Crono's and Mega Man's prediction percentages will tell you many casuals don't know how strong they are.
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It's not taking them out of the contest though, it's giving them a priviledge. For as hardcore as many of us are, many of us still vote for certain guaranteed characters because we want to see them with a high seed. Similar concept.

If it's Kirby, then it's Kirby. If it's PoP, then it's PoP. I just think that -- if it were done like that -- it should be an even ten (plus it makes it more likely that all the Noble Nine would be taken out)...

...the one fear is that not all of the Noble Nine are guaranteed to be the top ten most-nominated. Sure, I wouldn't complain if Solid was left in the bracket and the other eight be taken out...but if it was Sonic or Crono or anybody else, that would suck. That'd be the biggest flaw to me...but seeing as how the only Noble Nine'r who wasn't in the ToC or a 1-seed has gone up a seed every year (Crono), then I would work with it. Even then, CJay's tampered with all that before...not that I really condone that kind of thing, but we'd never know if he did and it'd be for the best interest of the contest.
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What would be in the best interest of the contest would be to leave the Noble Nine in. Taking them out doesn't particularly alter the predictability significantly. There are always going to be characters that are high enough above the rest of the field that they are "locks" for their first couple of matches. If not the Noble Nine, you'll have the Bowsers and Zeros and Vincents... The only purpose removing the Noble Nine would serve is to have a stretch of what we deem "interesting" matches, but to be honest, the bracket could easily be set up so that the better of those matches show up in the final rounds anyway
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What we've almost always seen in the contests are quick jumps from F-to-A-level characters to the AAA-characters. Doing it in more of a guantlet promotes a much more gradual change, like F-D-C-B-A-AA-AAA, thus promoting generally either much more difficult matches or more matches that are difficult.
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FACT OR FICTION: REMATCH STYLE!

Fact or Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact or Fiction: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact >_>: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact >_>: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

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Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6
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Snake still defeats Bowser in a non-sprite round. With sprites... I'm still taking Snake.

Mega still takes down Sonic.

Vincent extends his win against Squall.

Chief still takes DK, barely.

Ocelot wins that with a strong pic.

Knux extends his win over Mags.

Tommy beats Kefka again, though it's closer.

Frog over Riku still, but barely.

Chief takes Frog in a tight one.

Frog takes Lake without too much trouble.

Tidus slays Shadow.

Gordon upsets Sam.

Ryu extends his win.

Gordon kills Max, 60/40.

Kefka extends his win.

Alucard wins easily.

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Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna defeats Solid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
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And people made jokes about the PS3 being a grill. ~bokunokuso

Snake > Bowser
Mega Man > Sonic
Vincent > Squall
MC > DK
Pac > Ocelot
Knuckles > Magus
TV > Kefka
Riku > Frog, though I haven't seen what Riku's like in KH2
MC > Frog
Shadow > Tidus
GF > Sam Fisher
Ryu > Jill
GF > Max
Kefka > Pac (barely)
Alucard > Tails
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xyzzy

Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
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Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

New SMB comes out at just the right time.

Fac: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Neither of these two have much going for them.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Blarg.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

I'll never change my mind!

Fact: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Eh, KHII probably means I'm wrong.

Fact: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Freeman FTW!

Fiction: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

I don't think RE4 would have too much of a ripple effect, but then it doesn't need to. Especially with more equitable seeding, or even a 2/7 rather than a 3/14.

Fact: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Freeman FTW!

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

I'll never admit Kefka can lose against someone he has a reasonable chance against!

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Combine 007 and SotN's high 10AC placements and I don't think Alucard is going anywhere.
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pi

Neither of these two have much going for them.

Sonic doesn't really need anything to win a rematch, considering how close it was. However, he has had Sonic Rush and the new Shadow the Hedgehog game since SC2K5 (Yes, I know the latter probably won't do much for him, but he IS in it).
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

And Mega Man has the X Collection. Again, neither have much going for them.
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pi

Fact: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

~*ST*~
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Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
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Congratulations to the Guru Champion Voltch.

PS - "Get a life" type internet flames are the dumbest kind. j00 spend time on t3h intrawebz j00 must haev no lief LOL

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, FFTA, MMX5, C&C, FF4A

Ulti, just move on, he's too cool for us.

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Cheer Up Emo Kids

Yeah, but you can almost always draw trolls into getting modded to death by having fun with them. It's not like they have anything better to do but nitpick and respond to every point with inane nonsense, anyway.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, FFTA, MMX5, C&C, FF4A

An NNN bracket would only make sense to us. Silly idea.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Deus Ex, FFTA, MMX5, C&C, FF4A

What the duce Ffal? They mention that Jo's nickname is "Perfect" several times during the story.

Never played. Not oblivious to the obvious, just never got to it.


and wait a sec...I'm only just getting the joke now, I was almost going to post that first line, as in, I previewed it and everything...wow. I'll just leave that for everyone's enjoyment...silly joanna...


and where's our spring contest? : (
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb

Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

-- New Super Mario Bros. comes out at the best time in order to provide the necessary boost for Bowser.


Fact: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Mega Man X Collection out does anything Sonic has.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children out weigh another showing in Kingdom Hearts II.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

No real reason for me to think Donkey Kong makes up the difference.

Fact: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Painful fact.

Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Enter Kingdom Hearts II!

Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.



Fiction: Link still defeats Cloud if a rematch occurs in SC2K6. =p

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"... Speeding. Let's go arrest that student for violation of academy regulations." -- Seifer Almasy

Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Bowser had just about every possible thing in his favor. Unless the site is still shifting even MORE towards Nintendo, I don't think he breaks through. I certainly don't see a boss appearance in a Mario platformer causing enough people to like him more than Solid Snake when they didn't before. It would probably take a starring role in a game (i.e. either his own or something like SMRPG) to sway people that much. Bowser's only hope is that NSMB simply ramps up Nintendo site traffic to unseen proportions.

Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6. It is close enough to be another toss-up. Sonic fans are a concentrated effort away from taking down the Blue Bomber. I would still pick Mega Man though, but Sonic is more than capable of taking him down. He just needs to be caught on his best day.

Fact: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

FICTION: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Fact: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

That wasn't even Ryu at his best in 2k4. Those Arabusa pics were just horrible. Give him a 2k5 style pic and I'm sure Ryu separates himself a bit more. You have to admit there is a huge difference on impression and recognition.

Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Max Payne is too far removed from being cared about. Just another good series in a line of many now.

Fact: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Final Fantasy fans wouldn't let Kefka lose that one. And Pac-Man doesn't exactly have a fanbase to fight back an effort. He just rolls with what he gets.

Fiction: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.

Don't take it out on Alucard for Sora's lame showing against Snake.
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Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire

Fact or Fiction: Solid Snake still defeats Bowser if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - And he'd win by more if he had a non-sprite picture.

Fact or Fiction: Mega Man still defeats Sonic the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - There isn't really anything that makes me believe otherwise. Neither should change much, and Mega's always been ahead of Sonic.

Fact or Fiction: Vincent Valentine still defeats Squall Leonhart if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Although it could change if Squall's role in KH2 is good.

Fact or Fiction: Master Chief still defeats Donkey Kong if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Sadly, I don't see any reason why DK would do better a second time.

Fact or Fiction: If Ocelot gets a MGS3 picture, Pac-Man still defeats Revolver Ocelot if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Maybe my opinion would be different if I played MGS3, but if anything I think he'd do worse with an MGS3 pic.

Fact or Fiction: Knuckles the Echidna still defeats Magus if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - I don't see anything helping the Chrono Trigger characters this year.

Fact or Fiction: Tommy Vercetti still defeats Kefka if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - I don't see anything helping Kefka either.

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Riku if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - I think Frog may bounce back a little considering how bad he did last year. (However, I'd rather neither of these guys made the contest.)

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Master Chief if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fiction - Frog wouldn't bounce back by that much.

Fact or Fiction: Frog still defeats Liquid Snake if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Liquid Snake should never return to the contest.

Fact or Fiction: Tidus still defeats Shadow the Hedgehog if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - It doesn't sound like Shadow's game is going to help him. Missing the contest last year also isn't a good sign.

Fact or Fiction: Sam Fisher still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - GFNW.

Fact or Fiction: Ryu Hayabusa still defeats Jill Valentine if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Jill's downward trajectory is pretty obvious, whereas Ryu should be reasonably steady (if anything it looks like he's going up a little).

Fact or Fiction: Max Payne still defeats Gordon Freeman if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - GFNW.

Fact or Fiction: Kefka still defeats Pac-Man if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fiction - I don't think Square's quite as strong as in 2k3, and I have faith in Pac.

Fact or Fiction: Alucard still defeats Miles "Tails" Prower if a rematch occurs in SC2K6.
Fact - Alucard was too far above Tails for me to see that changing, especially with Tails missing the contest last year. But I'd be glad to be wrong.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
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