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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 278
From: trannyscience | Posted: 3/10/2006 1:30:03 PM | Message Detail
ugh, just looking at that list reminds me of how sucky that contest would be.

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xyzzy
From: voltch | Posted: 3/10/2006 2:37:14 PM | Message Detail
so really who thinks todays poll indicates a contest in the near future?
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BrentfordFC-championship here we come
From: trannyscience | Posted: 3/10/2006 2:40:19 PM | Message Detail
there's reading into things, and then there's that. no correlation whatsoever.
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xyzzy
From: trannyscience | Posted: 3/10/2006 2:43:30 PM | Message Detail
besides, if I had just come back from vacation, I would probably have more urgent things to do than a contest. when I come back from a week off, I have two weeks of work to do.
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xyzzy
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 3/10/2006 2:47:37 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, iirc Ceej is probably dealing with some hacking issues this weekend in MBH.
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 3/10/2006 3:05:04 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, he's still swimming in 150+ feedback tickets. It's not looking promising.

And I think a Female Contest has the potential to be more enjoyable than Villains. Granted, that isn't saying much, but still...

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 3/11/2006 3:47:00 AM | Message Detail
I can. I can definitely imagine such a thing.

I can't, personally.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/11/2006 10:20:18 AM | Message Detail
The pictures at least would be more enjoyable...
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/11/2006 7:03:08 PM | Message Detail
I'll still take Kuja/MH and Ganon/Robo over many TJF pictures.
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From: Yesmar | Posted: 3/11/2006 7:18:47 PM | Message Detail
I'm interested in a Female Contest if only because it might give us the opportunity to see how well Terra could perform with a sprite pic. Kefka overperformed by a noticeable amount with his Angel pic, so imagine what would happen if Terra got her normal one, which is what she would most likely get.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 3/11/2006 9:16:55 PM | Message Detail
Uh oh, Stats struggling again... Quick, someone create a bracket!

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From: Buy A Dreamcast | Posted: 3/11/2006 9:20:35 PM | Message Detail
Phoenix Wright vs Scorpion. Who wins?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/11/2006 9:24:04 PM | Message Detail
Scorpion
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 3/11/2006 9:24:35 PM | Message Detail
I don't see PW being on KoaC's level, so I'll say Scorp with 63.21%

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From: Buy A Dreamcast | Posted: 3/11/2006 9:25:19 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that was a really easy one... How about... Toad vs Ryu Hayabusa.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/11/2006 11:44:57 PM | Message Detail
Ryu Hayabusa. I doubt Toad can approach 37% on Zero.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/12/2006 12:04:32 AM | Message Detail
I'm DRUNK.

Tell me, just 'cuz it's laways been debatable, Knuckles/Shadow. Who're you pickin'?
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From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 3/12/2006 1:41:20 AM | Message Detail
Uh, I'd say Knuckles but I feel hesitant..
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 3/12/2006 1:46:22 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles

Even if Shadow is stronger, which I don't think he is anymore (or ever was), I think the Sonic fanbase would prefer Knux.
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From: voltch | Posted: 3/12/2006 3:55:16 AM | Message Detail
So in order it should go
Sonic>>>>>>>>Knuckles>Shadow>>>Tails
right?
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From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 3/12/2006 6:52:54 AM | Message Detail
Shadow did get his own game though, the mindset should be that Shadow > Knuckles in most fans.. right?
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From: Nominate_Tails | Posted: 3/12/2006 6:58:14 AM | Message Detail
No Knuckles>Shadow, just because voting over Knuckles is wrong, everyone likes that.

Shadow might be stronger (But I hope not) but he wouldn't beat Knuckles in a real poll.
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From: Dark115 | Posted: 3/12/2006 7:04:17 AM | Message Detail
Shadow did get his own game though, the mindset should be that Shadow > Knuckles in most fans.. right?

If anything his game would make him weaker..........ok so I'm stretching it a bit, but it would be a travesty if Shadow beat Knuckles
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From: Big Bob | Posted: 3/12/2006 7:04:25 AM | Message Detail
In 2003, Shadow had two of the best pictures he possibly could have had. In 2004, his picture made him look like an idiot.

But still Knuckles > Shadow 60-40.
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From: Buzzup | Posted: 3/12/2006 7:10:26 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles has the old school Sonic support over Shadow, which I believes still makes for a large part of the fanbase, so Knuckles>Shadow.
From: Meteorush | Posted: 3/12/2006 7:10:30 AM | Message Detail
Knux > Shadow easy.

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From: Nominate_Tails | Posted: 3/12/2006 7:41:13 AM | Message Detail
Uh oh, Stats struggling again... Quick, someone create a bracket!

I'm bored so I will make one. Without Clinkeroth

Star Division

1) Mario
8) Guybrush Threepwood

4) Ryu Hayabusa
5) Tails

3) Kirby
6) Leon S Kennedy

2) Sora
7) Bomberman

Combat Division

1) Masterchief
8) Jay Solano

4) Magus
5) Sub-Zero

3) Dante
6) Captain Falcon

2) Squall
7) Lloyd Irving

Solid Division

1) Solid Snake
8) James Sunderland (Silent Hill series)

4) Yoshi
5) Shadow The Hedgehog

3) Vincent Valentine
6) Tommy Vercetti

2) Roxas (KHII)
7) Aeris

Chaos Division
1) Sonic the Hedgehog
8) Phoenix Wright

4) Gordon Freeman
5) Fox

3) Ganondorf
6) Nightmare

2) Bowser
7) Vyse

Metroid Division

1) Samus Aran
8) CATS

4) Kefka
5) Ness

3) Tifa
6) Laharl

2) Zelda
7) KOS-MOS

Chrono Division
1) Crono
8) Manny Calavera

4) Auron
5) Tidus

3) Seifer
6) Frog

2) The Prince (PoP)
7) Alucard

Challenge Character Division

1) Luigi
8) Agent 47

4) Vivi
5) Donkey Kong

3) Revolver Ocelot
6) Knuckles

2) Zero
7) Pac-Man

Blue Bomber Division

1) Megaman
8) Ratchet

4) Yuna
5) Raiden

3) Jill Valentine
6) Chun Li

2) Ryu
7) Conker

Predict, discuss or what ever. Sorry that I forgot some of the Rally characters.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 3/12/2006 8:01:02 AM | Message Detail
Round 1

Star Division

1) Mario
5) Tails

3) Kirby
2) Sora

Combat Division

1) Masterchief
4) Magus

3) Dante
2) Squall

Solid Division

1) Solid Snake
4) Yoshi

3) Vincent Valentine
7) Aeris

Chaos Division

1) Sonic the Hedgehog
5) Fox

3) Ganondorf
2) Bowser

Metroid Division

1) Samus Aran
5) Ness

3) Tifa
2) Zelda

Chrono Division

1) Crono
4) Auron

6) Frog
7) Alucard

Challenge Character Division

1) Luigi
5) Donkey Kong

6) Knuckles
2) Zero

Blue Bomber Division

1) Megaman
4) Yuna

6) Chun Li
2) Ryu

Round 2

Star Division

1) Mario
2) Sora

Combat Division

1) Masterchief
2) Squall

Solid Division

1) Solid Snake
7) Aeris

Chaos Division

1) Sonic the Hedgehog
3) Ganondorf

Metroid Division

1) Samus Aran
3) Tifa

Chrono Division

1) Crono
6) Frog

Challenge Character Division

1) Luigi
2) Zero

Blue Bomber Division

1) Megaman
2) Ryu

Round 3

1) Mario
2) Squall

1) Solid Snake
1) Sonic the Hedgehog

1) Samus Aran
1) Crono

2) Zero
1) Megaman

Round 4

1) Mario
1) Sonic the Hedgehog

1) Samus Aran
1) Megaman

Round 5

1) Mario
1) Samus Aran

Round 6

1) Mario

You should have more new characters. Do we really need Guybrush, Lloyd, Laharl, Manny, Agent 47 and Ratchet to return? Especially if you're going to put them in losing situation.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 3/12/2006 8:03:42 AM | Message Detail
You should also give some of the new characters a winning chance. Of the nine new characters the only one I can see that has a chance at winning is Seifer.
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From: transience | Posted: 3/12/2006 8:07:06 AM | Message Detail
1) Masterchief
8) Jay Solano

The Army weeps at this possibility.

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xyzzy
From: Meteorush | Posted: 3/12/2006 11:13:52 AM | Message Detail
That would suck.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/12/2006 11:16:07 AM | Message Detail
I believed that Knuckles > Shadow before the 2005 contest, so the only thing that's changed now is me being a bit more confident in it.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/12/2006 11:26:56 AM | Message Detail
Star Division
1) Mario
4) Ryu Hayabusa
3) Kirby
2) Sora

Combat Division
1) Masterchief
4) Magus
3) Dante
2) Squall

Solid Division
1) Solid Snake
4) Yoshi
3) Vincent Valentine
7) Aeris

Chaos Division
1) Sonic the Hedgehog
5) Fox
3) Ganondorf
2) Bowser

Metroid Division
1) Samus Aran
5) Ness
3) Tifa
2) Zelda

Chrono Division
1) Crono
4) Auron
6) Frog
7) Alucard

Challenge Character Division
1) Luigi
4) Vivi
6) Knuckles
2) Zero

Blue Bomber Division
1) Megaman
4) Yuna
6) Chun Li
2) Ryu



Star Division
1) Mario
2) Sora

Combat Division
4) Magus
2) Squall

Solid Division
1) Solid Snake
3) Vincent Valentine

Chaos Division
1) Sonic the Hedgehog
2) Bowser

Metroid Division
1) Samus Aran
3) Tifa

Chrono Division
1) Crono
7) Alucard

Challenge Character Division
1) Luigi
2) Zero

Blue Bomber Division
1) Megaman
2) Ryu



1) Mario
2) Squall

1) Solid Snake
1) Sonic the Hedgehog

1) Samus Aran
1) Crono

2) Zero
1) Megaman


1) Mario
1) Sonic the Hedgehog

1) Samus Aran
1) Megaman


1) Mario
1) Samus Aran

MARIO

Props for featuring Auron/Tidus, Zelda/Tifa, and Mario/Sonic.
Slops for a very boring final, although I don't see how it could be much better without Clinkeroth.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/12/2006 11:29:54 AM | Message Detail
Actually, I'd probably take Tails over Hayabusa and Frog over Alucard, BUT THAT'S IT. *locks bracket*
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 3/13/2006 12:08:56 AM | Message Detail
Hm, interesting FF poll today. It will be cool if the next few days ask how many have played all the Zeldas, Marios, Metroids, and so forth.

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From: Chinballz | Posted: 3/13/2006 12:55:26 AM | Message Detail
Jay Solano going up against the Chief would suck. Jay would easily beat Tanner's record due to anti votes.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:06:35 AM | Message Detail
Sadly, I don't think Tanner's record will ever be touched in a direct match. Snake and Tanner were the perfect opponents for each other. Unless Jay also draws Snake (or maybe Mega Man), there really is no chance.
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From: greatone10 | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:22:22 AM | Message Detail
I think there is still potential for breaking Tanner's record. People cared enough about Tanner to nominate him seriously (and he got more nominations than Earthworm Jim and Duke Nukem). A guy whose sole purpose is to be cannon fodder should be able to surpass him, especially if he gets Snake.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/13/2006 7:44:25 AM | Message Detail
Do keep in mind that more people voted for Tanner over Solid Snake than people even admitting they own an N-Gage...hell, if memory serves me right, I think Tanner-votes almost doubled that N-Gage owner-votes. Not everybody with an N-Gage would have played Operation Shadow, and not everyone who has would vote for Jay, especially over some other general favorites like Mega Man.

Jay has all the potential in the world...to be insanely weak. He has far more potential than Tanner, and look at what he did; not a soul expected him to bomb like that...and he's got fans, too. His game is on the PS2, too. His series is recognizable, too. I would feel okay thinkin' Tanner would go toe-to-toe with the N-Gage in a contest-style match or better, heh.

Jay Solano would be the epitome of a board creation, and the only ways I would see him gettin' above Tanner -- even unadjusted Tanner -- is if anti-votes are a real force to reckon with or if somebody on our board decides to be an ass and try to ruin the joke/test by cheating.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/13/2006 12:42:39 PM | Message Detail
I still think Solid Snake probably SFF'd Tanner somewhat. Not enough to make Tanner anything of note, but I don't think he's quite as weak as he looks.

Anyway, all Jay Solano will be is a measure of anti-votes and joke votes.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 3/13/2006 12:46:51 PM | Message Detail
The King's Quest guy (Ifnprg... something) would have been the perfect measure of joke votes, but noooooooooo.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:04:14 PM | Message Detail
Back to Knuckles, I sadly have to say that his support in a Knuckles/Shadow matchup would be split between old school Sonic fans and new school Sonic fans. While people who began with the Genesis game know how undoubtedly awesome Knuckles is, there are many people who don't like Knuckles simply because of his Sonic Adventure treasure hunting levels and his association with hip-hop themed music, as idiotic as that sounds.

As much as this topic and board despises Shadow, there are plenty others (like my little brother) who think Shadow is the most awesome being in existence just because he looks badass and says "badass" lines like "This is the ULTIMATE!!" and "Playtime is OVER!" I would take Knuckles, but I'd be pretty nervous about it.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:05:45 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I agree that it'd be a tough call and might not actually feature a great deal of SFF, but I believe old school would prevail.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Big Bob | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:15:58 PM | Message Detail
Come to think of it, I had a theory...

Sonic Adventure 2: Battle might be able to defeat Sonic 2 in a direct match up. It was on the top ten Gamecube boards for YEARS, outlasting many other games. Shadow's popularity comes exclusively from that game, and he's a decent midcarder, unlike Tails and Robotnik, who have an entire career behind them yet they're bordering on fodder.

And I might as well say it: Sonic Battle Shadow isn't stupid. He's actually a decent character in that game. Not enough people have played it to really notice that, though.
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DA-DING Da-Ding da-ding-ding!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:16:59 PM | Message Detail
Although I do worry about Knux's chances of getting into the contest every year. His seed has gradually been getting lower and lower, and I hope this isn't the year he misses out.

FACT OR FICTION: Knuckles will fail to get into the contest at all before he loses a first round match.
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I am vastly inferior to my Chrono Cross counterpart, Serge. Therefore, you should nominate him for SC2K6 instead of me.
From: Big Bob | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:20:57 PM | Message Detail
FICTION: Knuckles's well-known upset will grant him a much higher seed next year. Magus is more likely to miss the field.
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DA-DING Da-Ding da-ding-ding!
From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:23:03 PM | Message Detail
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:23:45 PM | Message Detail
I would personally lead a board revolt if Knuckles was left out of the field...
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 3/13/2006 1:58:53 PM | Message Detail
Eh, I think Magus is still gonna be back in, but while we're on the subject, I'll do some projections for odds on who will be back in 2006.

Locks to return
The Noble Nine (as long as Ceej doesn't pull any of them from the contest anyway)
Bowser Koopa
Vincent Valentine
Squall Leonhart
Kirby
Ganondorf
Dante Sparda
Zero
Magus
Luigi
Auron
Master Chief
Ryu
Tidus
Yoshi
Vivi
Sora
Alucard
Gordon Freeman
Kefka
Ness
CATS

Likely to return, but could possibly miss
Princess Zelda
Tifa Lockheart
Knuckles the Echidna
Donkey Kong
Leon Kennedy
Yuna
Frog
Diablo
Riku
Ryu Hayabusa
Tommy Vercetti
Pac-Man
Sam Fisher
KOS-MOS
Kratos Aurion
Kratos
Carl Johnson
Lloyd Irving
Laharl
Vyse

More likely to miss than come back, but wouldn't be surprised to see them
Rikku
Revolver Ocelot
Joanna Dark
King of All Cosmos

Don't bet on these coming back
Chun-Li
Terra
Conker
Zidane
Jin Kazama
Geno
Big Boss
Cecil
Albert Wesker
Agent 47
Sarah Kerrigan
Manny Calavera
Yuri Hyuga

Characters who could make a triumphant return
Aeris Gainsborough
Fox McCloud
Raiden
Shadow the Hedgehog
Liquid Snake
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I am vastly inferior to my Chrono Cross counterpart, Serge. Therefore, you should nominate him for SC2K6 instead of me.
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 3/13/2006 3:22:42 PM | Message Detail
I'm hesistant about saying Shadow could come back. He did have his own game...but it really sucked.
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