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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 278
From: Kaxon | Posted: 3/9/2006 11:22:17 PM | Message Detail
Final Fantasy beating Final Fantasy Tactics Advance seems likely.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 3/9/2006 11:32:33 PM | Message Detail
PS over PS4 is supported heavily by XS, but I don't think it would happen.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 3/9/2006 11:33:21 PM | Message Detail
I doubt that happens, either. Phantasy Star 4 is considered the best game in the series by the fanbase.

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From: greatone10 | Posted: 3/9/2006 11:57:26 PM | Message Detail
FF1 beating FFTA is pretty obvious, unless you want to count the FF and FFT series as different series.
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From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 3/10/2006 3:59:22 AM | Message Detail
Heh, you're not the only one hoping for an announcement. Now that CJay got back from his vacation... I wonder if we'll have a Spring Contest at all or not.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:40:15 AM | Message Detail
The longer we go without an announcement, the more I feel like it'll be a 32 bracket females contest, if we get one at all.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:50:22 AM | Message Detail
The longer we go without an announcement, the more I feel like it'll be a 32 bracket females contest, if we get one at all.

Agreed...which, ya know, would be better than nothing. Not my first choice (and, with enough thought, probably wouldn't be my second either, heh), but I'd take it.

I'd wonder this though...would there be a Starcraft/Diablo-like character in a female-bracket? Not necessarily even linkage, but simply just as far as being deceptively strong.
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From: Ed Bellis | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:52:47 AM | Message Detail
If we're having a females contest, I'm totally nominating the Mother Brain.

...what?
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:53:08 AM | Message Detail
Deceptively strong? Beats me. I'm kinda wondering which characters besides the obvious ones WOULD be strong.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:53:39 AM | Message Detail
I'd wonder this though...would there be a Starcraft/Diablo-like character in a female-bracket? Not necessarily even linkage, but simply just as far as being deceptively strong.

For some reason, I think the correct Soul Calibur girl could ruin many brackets.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:55:43 AM | Message Detail
A female contest would suck... It would be more fodderific than the villains contest, only with cuter pics.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:55:48 AM | Message Detail
Let me throw this out there too: are there any women you think that could make it in but would be deceptively weak?
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:58:51 AM | Message Detail
Actually, scratch that. I'm totally FOR a female contest. It may be the only way I can get Carmen Sandiego in a contest!
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 11:59:06 AM | Message Detail
Deceptively weak? Princess Peach, of course.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:00:49 PM | Message Detail
If we have a Female Contest, I'll soooo nominate Carmen...and bug others to, too.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:02:14 PM | Message Detail
The only thing I would really look forward to in a females contest is a Tifa/Aeris match, and if Ceej doesn't set it up, I wouldn't really care about it at all, unless he gets a little...liberal with his choice of match pictures.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:02:27 PM | Message Detail
Peach would be one of the new females we have not seen be pretty strong. Outside of her, there would be plenty of weak females and the obvious strong ones. Little in between, I would say.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:04:49 PM | Message Detail
The sad thing about Peach is that there aren't many female characters she would lose to, so when she turned out to be weaker than everyone expected, it wouldn't kill brackets like it would in a Summer Contest.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Who Cares? | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:08:38 PM | Message Detail
The longer we go without an announcement, the more I feel like it'll be a 32 bracket females contest, if we get one at all.

Personally, the scenario I've been hoping for the whole offseason has been Spring: Females, Summer: Games, let the Great Character Battle take a year off, so I'd totally be fine with that!

A female contest would suck... It would be more fodderific than the villains contest, only with cuter pics.

I disagree. Lara Croft of all characters could take out the bottom third of the villains field methinks. I sure we could come up with about 20-25 females that could beat Lara in a direct match.

The only thing I would really look forward to in a females contest is a Tifa/Aeris match,

If we don't get Zelda vs Tifa/Aeris winner, it'd be a terrible waste of bracket potential...
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:11:10 PM | Message Detail
Can anyone explain to my why Peach would be strong? Sure she's from a popular series, but would anyone really vote for her?

I think KOS-MOS and Lara Croft would have no trouble to win over here, and I haven't played a single Xenosaga or Tomb Raider game :P
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:12:39 PM | Message Detail
Whoops I forgot that she has her own game now >_>
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:15:53 PM | Message Detail
Let's see...who would you guys see making a females contest?

1. Samus Aran
2. Tifa Lockheart
3. Aeris Gainsborough
4. Yuffie Kisaragi
5. Sheena Fujibayashi
6. The Boss
7. Princess Zelda
8. Princess Peach
9. KOS-MOS
10. Lara Croft
11. Joanna Dark
12. Quistis Trepe
13. Rinoa Heartilly (?)
14. Beatrix
15. Princess Garnet (?)
16. Yuna
17. Rikku
18. Lulu (?)
19. Carmen Sandiego (?)
20. Presea Combatir (?)
21. Navi (?)
22. Marle
23. Lucca (?)
24. Kid (?)
25. Terra Branford
26. Celes Chere
27. Kasumi (?)
28. Tina Armstrong (?)
29. Eva (MGS3)
30. Malon (?)
31. Sarah Kerrigan
32. FUJIN
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:16:47 PM | Message Detail
21. Navi (?)

Best. Entry. Ever.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:18:19 PM | Message Detail
Oh right, forgot about Jill Valentine and Claire Redfield.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: DomaDragoon | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:19:01 PM | Message Detail
Let me throw this out there too: are there any women you think that could make it in but would be deceptively weak?

Any non-7 FF female, with the debatable exception of Yuna. Marle, Lucca, and/or Ayla.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:21:22 PM | Message Detail
the names brea aya brea dont test me kirby or ill liberate you
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:21:26 PM | Message Detail
Poor Chun Li >_>

Oh and considering the number of Sonic fanboys this site has, I think Amy would make it (I wouldn't mind see her get 10% on Samus :P )
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:22:21 PM | Message Detail
Oh duh. Chun-Li, Aya Brea.

Somehow I doubt Amy Rose would make it, but I would sure nominate her. Emma Emmerich, too.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:23:00 PM | Message Detail
Sonya Blade, perhaps, and Mai Shiranui.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: swirIdude | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:23:20 PM | Message Detail
Most Sonic fans, even though they have a fetish for that wretched Shadow, know better than to think Amy is any good.
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:24:31 PM | Message Detail
Hearing all of these females named off really makes me hate the fact that we are more likely to get this than a games contest. So much damn fodder...

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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:24:41 PM | Message Detail
Jessica from Dragon Quest VIII perhaps
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:24:45 PM | Message Detail
Aww Leon...and I though Chun-Li was one of your favorites...so how could you forget her? ;_; I think Cammy also would get in if she got a decent push.

28. Tina Armstrong (?)
-- DoA will get two in, but I think this will either be Ayane or Hitomi.
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:25:23 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and Ada Wong while we're at it. RE4's PS2 release probably helped especially with Separate Ways
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:26:11 PM | Message Detail
Oooh. I forgot about her. Now Ada would be number one on my nominations list.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:26:35 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I have no idea how I forgot Chun-Li. I love her.

Oddly enough, even though a females contest will feature much lower fodder, we'd actually have more characters who had decent strength than in the Villains Contest.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:28:58 PM | Message Detail
It certainly would not come in the form of these multiple fighting game females. I would pray that there would be very few actually getting in. Hell, when you have two ToS females getting into the contest you can abou sum it up as "weak." The decent and strong females are the obvious ones.

I would take it over nothing, but just the entire idea is very "bleh."

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"I haven't invested as much time into any game as I have [Twilight Princess]." -- Shigeru Miyamoto
From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:29:03 PM | Message Detail
Can anyone explain to my why Peach would be strong? Sure she's from a popular series, but would anyone really vote for her?

I'm through explaining. It's pretty much a waste of my time to keep giving reasons for why she should be of at least decent strength (25% range), just to keep hearing people say they don't see any reason why she would be strong at all. It's just wait and see at this point.
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:34:09 PM | Message Detail
The villains contest had 11 characters who would be projected to get 20%+ on BL:

1. Sephiroth
2. Ganondorf
3. Bowser
4. Diablo
5. Revolver Ocelot
6. Kefka
7. Bison
8. Liquid Snake
9. Dr. Wily
10. Nemesis
11. Ridley

A females contest would have:

1. Samus Aran
2. Tifa Lockheart
3. Aeris Gainsborough
4. Princess Zelda
5. KOS-MOS
6. Chun-Li
7. Princess Peach
8. Yuffie Kisaragi (?)
9. Yuna
10. Rikku
11. Celes Chere (?)
12. Jill Valentine
13. Claire Redfield

Maybe more.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: swirIdude | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:39:08 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't be so confident on Celes, Jill, or Claire breaking 20%
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:40:13 PM | Message Detail
Celes only has to be 1.35% stronger than Terra to manage 20% on BL, which I think is manageable. I dunno why Jill wouldn't. Hayabusa's nearly 24% on BL.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:48:58 PM | Message Detail
Claire? Celes? I very much doubt both being able to break 20% on Link.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:49:56 PM | Message Detail
I'm not talking about 2005 Link. I mean simple base Link, which is manageable for both, I think.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden
From: therealmnm | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:51:42 PM | Message Detail
I don't see why they couldn't... especially Jill. It doesn't take THAT much to break 20% on Base Link. Even Sam Fisher did it!
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
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From: Heroic Mario | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:53:21 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I know. I still don't expect it out of Celes or Claire at all.

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From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 3/10/2006 12:53:58 PM | Message Detail
Basically, it amounts to being able to defeat Duke Nukem, which I think they both could.
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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 3/10/2006 1:03:11 PM | Message Detail
I'd like to think Cammy would have no truble breaking it as well, I can't imagine her being 4% weaker than Ken/Chun/Bison.
From: LessThan3Presea | Posted: 3/10/2006 1:03:54 PM | Message Detail
Cammy is a possibility as well.
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From: Fire | Posted: 3/10/2006 1:06:33 PM | Message Detail
I can't imagine her being 4% weaker than Ken/Chun/Bison.

I can. I can definitely imagine such a thing.

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From: Enoch Camas | Posted: 3/10/2006 1:27:29 PM | Message Detail
I'd expect Morrigan, Kasumi, and a couple Soul Calibur females could break 20% as well. If Celes is debatable, so are Quistis, Rinoa, and Lulu.
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