Now, imagine rallying when your game is already being 60/40'D. There's absolutely no point to it. The support would give up quickly.

*remembers a link for Diablo when Sonic was beating him with 68%*

Yeah.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

I'm just going to point out that Starcraft got about the same number of votes against KH as it did against Wind Waker, and we have no frame of reference for how many votes it lost between the site layout change. In addition, SC got a full 7,000 votes more against SSBM than it did against KH or WW. THAT is why I think it legitimately beat Wind Waker, whereas it shouldn't have been close to SSBM.
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*remembers a link for Diablo when Sonic was beating him with 68%*

I'm sure Diablo was at his strongest in that match, too.
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If a spring contest doesn't start soon I swear to God I'm going to explode... then again with School/Tennis/Work and then friends on the weekend I probably won't be around much to enjoy it, but I don't really care, I NEED CONTEST.

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Well, I'll take the unpopular position.

Fact: Starcraft's wins were legit. All three.

There's really nothing suspicious about the match against Halo. Vote swings of 2000+ are standard for matches involving Halo or Master Chief, and this match followed the expected pattern. The only thing that's remotely unusual is the 112,889 total votes. That's easily explained if you remember the site redesign happened right after this match. FF VII vs. Suikoden II got 107k just a week before this match and it wasn't remotely close. Vote totals are higher in close matches. Plus there was some outside rallying for this match, which would increase the vote total. Since the redesign vote totals have never recovered to their previous levels.

Against KH, pretty much everyone agrees that the win was legitimate.

The WW match was very similar to the first match, except with unprecidented levels of vote rallying. We already know Zelda is good during the day and Starcraft is good at night, so the vote trend isn't surprising. Any "suspicious trend" argument (which I personally find pretty weak anyway) can be just as easily attributed to rallying (which unlike cheating, we have evidence for) - the level of hype and rallying for the match outside GameFAQs was far beyond any other match I know of.

The only reason (besides bias) that people think Starcraft had cheat votes against WW was because of the blatant cheat votes it got against SSBM. But logically, it doesn't make sense to think the round 4 cheaters cheated before that. Why? Because they were obvious. Ceej checked for cheating in the WW match and if there had been obvious cheating, he would have seen it. On the other hand, if those cheaters already knew how to cheat subtly, they wouldn't have cheated so obviously in the SSBM match. Anyone with a brain could have predicted they'd get caught, so I don't believe anyone that stupid could have cheated successfully in a match where Ceej was looking closely at the results.
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751

Here are 5 minute update numbers on SC's gap in the last half hour. Looking back, I guess it doesn't seem all that fishy, judging purely by the numbers... But I think those who stayed up to the end can attest to how every time WW was able to get something going, it was like somebody would flip a switch and SC would put on just enough of a spurt to kill Link's hopes for the moment.

Here's what it felt like.

208
210 <- makes sense
215 <- reasonable
189 <- yeah, nice push Link!
189 <- oh, a dogfight, cool
153 <- omg, Mario/Crono '03 here we come!
176 <- *kicked in the teeth*
171 <- *still bleeding from the mouth*

What we need is for someone to pop all the numbers from the last couple hours into Excel, see if WW was getting a more consistent number of votes per update while SC jumped around somewhat, going on runs when in trouble. Seemed that way, but maybe the numbers don't bear it out.

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I remember Halo getting several extremely suspicious updates. That match alone is enough for me to question all of Starcraft's wins as "legit" simply due to the amount of rallying and less than fair play on both sides.
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But I think those who stayed up to the end can attest to how every time WW was able to get something going, it was like somebody would flip a switch and SC would put on just enough of a spurt to kill Link's hopes for the moment.

Well, part of what I'm saying is that can just as easily be attributed to people getting worried and spamming for more votes. Although looking at the numbers now, Link's "push" looks more like a fluke that Starcraft rode out, to me at least.

Here's as close as I can get to 5 minute updates using the numbers from sc2k5.com, for the last 90 minutes of the match:

22:30:00 | Starcraft | 39083 | 145 | 49.80% | Wind Waker | 39399 | 115 | 50.20% | Lead of 316 | (Down 30)
22:35:00 | Starcraft | 39235 | 152 | 49.82% | Wind Waker | 39513 | 114 | 50.18% | Lead of 278 | (Down 38)
22:40:00 | Starcraft | 39400 | 165 | 49.86% | Wind Waker | 39619 | 106 | 50.14% | Lead of 219 | (Down 59)
22:45:00 | Starcraft | 39544 | 144 | 49.88% | Wind Waker | 39731 | 112 | 50.12% | Lead of 187 | (Down 32)
22:50:00 | Starcraft | 39723 | 179 | 49.93% | Wind Waker | 39842 | 111 | 50.07% | Lead of 119 | (Down 68)
22:55:00 | Starcraft | 39909 | 186 | 49.96% | Wind Waker | 39969 | 127 | 50.04% | Lead of 60 | (Down 59)
23:00:00 | Starcraft | 40115 | 206 | 50.01% | Wind Waker | 40097 | 128 | 49.99% | Lead of 18 | (Up 78)
23:05:00 | Starcraft | 40301 | 186 | 50.04% | Wind Waker | 40244 | 147 | 49.96% | Lead of 57 | (Up 39)
23:10:00 | Starcraft | 40429 | 128 | 50.04% | Wind Waker | 40360 | 116 | 49.96% | Lead of 69 | (Up 12)
23:15:00 | Starcraft | 40588 | 159 | 50.07% | Wind Waker | 40477 | 117 | 49.93% | Lead of 111 | (Up 42)
23:20:00 | Starcraft | 40719 | 131 | 50.09% | Wind Waker | 40571 | 94 | 49.91% | Lead of 148 | (Up 37)
23:25:00 | Starcraft | 40847 | 128 | 50.12% | Wind Waker | 40644 | 73 | 49.88% | Lead of 203 | (Up 55)
23:30:00 | Starcraft | 40939 | 92 | 50.13% | Wind Waker | 40732 | 88 | 49.87% | Lead of 207 | (Up 4)
23:35:00 | Starcraft | 41029 | 90 | 50.13% | Wind Waker | 40820 | 88 | 49.87% | Lead of 209 | (Up 2)
23:40:00 | Starcraft | 41120 | 91 | 50.13% | Wind Waker | 40905 | 85 | 49.87% | Lead of 215 | (Up 6)
23:45:00 | Starcraft | 41195 | 75 | 50.11% | Wind Waker | 41006 | 101 | 49.89% | Lead of 189 | (Down 26)
23:50:00 | Starcraft | 41287 | 92 | 50.09% | Wind Waker | 41134 | 128 | 49.91% | Lead of 153 | (Down 36)
23:55:00 | Starcraft | 41391 | 104 | 50.11% | Wind Waker | 41217 | 83 | 49.89% | Lead of 174 | (Up 21)
24:00:00 | Starcraft | 41480 | 89 | 50.10% | Wind Waker | 41309 | 92 | 49.90% | Lead of 171 | (Down 3)

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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751

Don't ask me why I didn't leave in the real timestamps there... <sigh>
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751

Dreamcast? That was unexpected.

(11/10/2005) Do you still own a Dreamcast?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2191

(11/17/2001) Got Dreamcast?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=717

(09/18/2001) Two years after its release: Got Dreamcast?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=656

(12/01/1999) Got Dreamcast?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2
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Tomorrow's poll: Got PC-FX?
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=26571751

Let's catch up with this topic:

Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3.

Fiction. LttP might win (I wouldn't put much money on it mind you) but I can't see it doing a SFF job.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head.

Fiction, but I wouldn't be sure on this at all. SM64's value is very sketchy. But Mario 3 would beat either of them.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head.

Fiction. Goldeneye is massively underrated by an awful lot of people. It'd beat MGS with at least 55%, and any other FPS that's ever existed.

Fact or Fiction: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them.

Fact. I'd take FF8 over both of them, but gauging strengths of RPG's isn't my strongpoint.

FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

Hard to say, we've not seen any matchups between games in the same series across a generation. I'd be tempted to say it will, but not massively.

FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

I'd go for CT with 53% or so. That expected line is, in my eyes, more or less bang on what would happen.

FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

Fact. It's not too hard to envisage 2, 3 and one of the X series managing it. Xenogears nearly managed it, and would have done if we assume there's at least minimal SFF in that match. The same Xenogears that had problems putting Pokemon away.

FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.

Haven't a clue. I'd gamble and say yes.

Here's a few for you all to ponder:

FACT or FICTION: Goldeneye could beat any other FPS game in a head to head match.

FACT or FICTION: At least one sports game could manage 25% on FF7.

FACT or FICTION: No Metroid game is capable of putting up 40% on any of the elite 8 from SpC2K4.

FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

FACT or FICTION: I will get round to changing my sig before being required to as a result of losing another Guru contest.
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Jon Thomson - inferior to Jman_gamerX8. Pesky Crono.

And I'll probably add some of the characters being rallied around into my picks. After choosing CATS, Scorpion, Duke Nukem and Ridley, of course.
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Jon Thomson - inferior to Jman_gamerX8. Pesky Crono.

FACT or FICTION: Goldeneye could beat any other FPS game in a head to head match.

by "any other FPS", you mean the Halos, and I'll say fact. considering that Goldeneye beat Halo on the list and Halo gets antivoted, I think it'd be a safe pick.

FACT or FICTION: At least one sports game could manage 25% on FF7.

fiction. no explanation necessary.

FACT or FICTION: No Metroid game is capable of putting up 40% on any of the elite 8 from SpC2K4.

fiction. MP could probably get 40% on Starcraft, and maybe Zelda 1. none of the others though.

FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

fiction. I've debated Zelda 1 / MM / Wind Waker in this very topic, and Ithink I'd take Zelda 1 over both. I am completely unconfident though.

the rest of the games though, absolutely.

FACT or FICTION: I will get round to changing my sig before being required to as a result of losing another Guru contest.

fiction. at this point, it shows that you're here solely for the contest. it makes you look more hardcore.
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So I forget. When did he start the Spring Nominations last year?

April 4th, I believe TRE said about a week ago.
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FACT or FICTION: Goldeneye could beat any other FPS game in a head to head match.

Fact. I'd wager that Goldeneye is the FFVII of first-person shooters. It was the first for millions, and they'll never forget it.

FACT or FICTION: At least one sports game could manage 25% on FF7.

I guess someone can argue for a Mario sports title, but even that is extremely far-fetched. Either way, no traditional sports title can ever do it.

FACT or FICTION: No Metroid game is capable of putting up 40% on any of the elite 8 from SpC2K4.

Fiction. It would hit 40% on at least Starcraft.

FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

Fiction. Zelda is extremely debatable.

FACT or FICTION: I will get round to changing my sig before being required to as a result of losing another Guru contest.

Fiction, you lazy fart-face. =P
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FACT or FICTION: HaRR would win beat out a group of puppies in a cuteness contest. And by cuteness I mean thing that gives men raging boners.

FACT or FICTION: He would dropkick every single judge after he won who voted against him.

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FACT: HaRR would win beat out a group of puppies in a cuteness contest. And by cuteness I mean thing that gives men raging boners.

No group of puppies has given me more than 7 boners. Needless to say, HaRR definitely has.

FICTION: He would dropkick every single judge after he won who voted against him.

It's impossible to conceive of any judge voting against him...and even if they did, he would knee them in the crotch instead.
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FACT or FICTION: HaRR would win beat out a group of puppies in a cuteness contest. And by cuteness I mean thing that gives men raging boners.

Tough, but I'll go with FICTION simply because I'm out-numbered. It's a definite toss-up though.


FACT or FICTION: He would dropkick every single judge after he won who voted against him.

Mac already covered this one.
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remind me of this the next time I think about voting against H in a user contest.

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So, the "Got... " polls are over and CJay's finally back from his week of vacation. NOW we'll get our Contest announcement! ...right?

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You'd be ****in' right!!!







...maybe. I just really wish he'd accept my poll-suggestion right now. Start out small...baby-steps.....
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I haven't been keeping up with this lately, so let's give it a go.

Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3.

Mario's strongest would probably still lose, but it would be a lot closer than Link/Mario.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head.

I'm torn on this one. But SMW got 41% on CT, and SM64 only managed 24% on OoT...assuming OoT and CT are roughly equal, that comes out to an awful lot of SFF for SM64. And it could be so (and I'd pick SM64 over several games in the same basic range as SMW...Prime and KH, for instance), but I don't think it'll make it in a head to head. It would be interesting to see if there would be SFF, though.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head.

Eh. 007 did 2% worse on a weaker opponent, but thanks to the 10AC we can assume that both of them are strong and there's "SFF" in both of those matches. So the question becomes how much. I'm tempted to go with MGS, if only because of Sephiroth/Liquid, but it makes more sense to me that OoT/007 would have more SFF than FFVII/MGS. So I'll go with GoldenEye.

Fact or Fiction: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them.

T or VIII? That's what this boils down to, more or less. While I would have said FFVIII without thinking prior to the last Spring contest, now I'm not so sure. But Leonhart himself has proven, scientifically, that Ramza is stronger than Snake. :p Between the high seed, the close match with MGS, both MGS and 007's high 10AC finishes, and, of course, bias against FFVIII, I take the two shooters.

FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

No, LttP would rSFF for the win! Not really, but I think LttP has a pretty strong fanbase of its own; this isn't the original FF we're talking about. This match wouldn't get out of hand.

FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

Kefka, Terra, and FFVI. Ramza and FFT. Tidus and FFX. Fighter and FF. <_< There's a pattern here, and it's that FF games beat FF characters (we could also make the argument for Cloud, Sephy, and FFVII, if necessary). (And if you're going to argue Tidus, remember that FFX did much better on SSBM than Tidus did on Kirby.) I don't know why the disparity is so large in FFVI's case, but I'm more or less convinced (thanks again, 10AC!) that FFVI is a strong competitor in its own right.

However, I do think there'd be SFF, if for no other reason than Crono/Kefka. But then, I think there was SFF in FFVII/CT, too, so what do I know.

FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

23 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 27.71%
24 Super Mario RPG 27.51%
25 Goldeneye 24.89%
26 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 24.67%
27 Street Fighter II 24.08%

Forget 007, it's obviously higher. But are you telling me no MM game could stand up to KotOR? For as popular as Mega Man is on GameFAQs, I think this is a fairly trivial question. No, it's not going to be Noble Nine (or Super Six, whatever games are), but Mega Man 2, 3, or X could all handle FFTA.

FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

The three I just listed, and I think a lot of Mega Man games have that potential, if only because of the name. C'mon, Xenogears nearly managed that!

FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.

I really don't know which one to pick here. But MGS2 sold an awful lot more, and it did surprisingly well on SSBM. Not being a huge Metal Gear fan, I'm not sure which the fanbase generally prefers, though.
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Got Milk? (11/19/2001)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=719
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"Why did I become a lawyer in the first place...? Because someone has to look out for the people who have no one on their side." ~Phoenix Wright

CJay was on vacation .. ?
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Yes. As he posted in The Daily Grind,

Vacation Time...
From: CJayC | Posted: 3/6/2006 5:23:29 PM | Message Detail

...is over.

Yep. I took a vacation. The first real vacation I've had in a year and a half, and the first full week-long vacation I've had since, oh, 1999 or so.

So, yeah, I'm a bit behind on things. I'll start catching up tomorrow, don't worry. Today, I'm catching up on sleep.

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well at least now we know how many people got milk.
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Kilroy:Their fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft.
BrentfordFC-championship here we come

I'd rather know how many people prefer SSBM over SMB3 right now.

Damn milk and all its existence.....
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What's the website to make an account with spaces? I forgot to save it...
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire

I always just make an account on Gamespot that's already taken on GameFAQs... I think TRE is the one who always posts the website though.
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http://wikifaqs.net/index.php/Space_Accounts
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"Why did I become a lawyer in the first place...? Because someone has to look out for the people who have no one on their side." ~Phoenix Wright

"However, with the purge of non-upgraded accounts on September 15, 2005, that method no longer works."

*checks account creation date*

Interesting...
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Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head.

Fact.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head.

No clue, as both games were SFFd in Spring 2004.

Fact or Fiction: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them.

Fiction.

FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

Sad fact.

FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

I think CT SFFs FF6.

FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

Fact.

FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.

Sad fact.

~*ST*~
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FACT or FICTION: Goldeneye could beat any other FPS game in a head to head match.

Fiction. Halo could win.

FACT or FICTION: At least one sports game could manage 25% on FF7.

Fiction.

FACT or FICTION: No Metroid game is capable of putting up 40% on any of the elite 8 from SpC2K4.

Fiction.

FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

I'm too tired to actually think about what this non-sentence even means.

FACT or FICTION: I will get round to changing my sig before being required to as a result of losing another Guru contest.

Don't really care.

~*ST*~
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FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

This is absolute fiction, by the way, if only because Pac-Man would destroy Ms. Pac-Man.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

I think he meant by a sequel from a non-8bit era because I don't see Final Fantasy II losing to Final Fantasy.
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush

Final Fantasy losing to Final Fantasy II
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush

Contra > Contra: Shattered Soldier <_<;
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Nominate Carmen Sandiego for SC2k6
Currently playing: MMXC, Fight Night R2, Threads of Fate, Jade Empire

Final Fantasy I would probably beat Final Fantasy V. Pac-Man would beat any Pac-Man game ever released.
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

I asked a question in the last topic that got overlooked:

Could Gray Fox be stronger than Revolver Ocelot?
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

He could be... although I'm wondering if the name "Grey Fox" would strike to many as recognizable to the masses (outside of Metal Gear Solid fans that is). Revolver Ocelot has gotten his name out to the point that you don't really need to have played Metal Gear Solid to at least know who he is. Grey Fox does have the appeal though. It would be close. Especially if they put "MGS Ninja" or "Cyber Ninja" under the pic. <_<
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I'm thinking that he would get his ninja picture, which is pretty recognizable. Not to mention, you don't have to play MGS long after you meet him to learn his name.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

For what it's worth, I had completely forgotten who Grey Fox was until the past two or three posts, and I have all three MGS games in my personal Top Ten; it wasn't until he was mentioned as the MGS cyber-ninja that I was reminded who it was (though I knew he had to be from MGS1). I'm not proud to admit it, heh...

...but, I'd take Revolver.
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I wouldn't expect anything from him if we didn't have pictures, but the picture of the cyber ninja will definitely be there, so that will help him.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul

*crosses fingers for contest announcement*
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SC2K6 Nominations: Squall, Ramza, Serge, Seifer, Laguna, The Prince of Persia, Nightmare, Sub-Zero, Captain Falcon, Raiden

Just threw up a quick xstats update... All character names on the top line, "Link VS Cloud", now double as direct links to Ulti's character bio pages.

Just keep in mind that, as no pages have been created for 2002 and 2003, those links are not valid... yet.

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FACT or FICTION: Any game from the 8-bit division would lose to any of its sequels, apart from Mario 3, which would beat any other Mario game.

Metal Gear, Pac-Man, Metroid, Phantasy Star, Contra, Final Fantasy, Pitfall!, Donkey Kong, Zelda 1, Tetris, and probably even Pong and Galaga are capable of beating sequels in their respective series. These games all have some damn pathetic games to beat on.

~*ST*~
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I thought jonthomson was only referring to games in the bracket. If that is the case, the only possible option would be the original LoZ over Wind Waker.
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