okay..

LTTP would SFF Mario 3: Fiction - I'm not even convinced it would win. I would be hesitant to pick Mario 3, but I think it is a sexy upset pick.

GE/MGS: I really have no idea on this matchup, but I was reading Ulti's PCA today and saw this:

As I said in the last match, Ocarina of Time had to clearly outperform Final Fantasy 7`s total. It did so, but by only 1.75%. Metal Gear Solid is clearly stronger than Goldeneye, and a 1.75% difference between the two games against their respective opponents did not mean well for Ocarina of Time in the next round.

amazing what a List will do to change our minds. anyway, I think I'd take GE. no, I'd take MGS. gah, I really don't know. complete tossup.

I would pick both games over FF8. just because FF7 destroys everything from the PS1's generation doesn't mean FF8 will. give me MGS and GE.

Mario 64 / Mario World: you know, I've given both of these games ample chances to prove themselves, and they keep coming up short. picking Mario 64 over MGS cost me a lot of money a few months ago and it just got destroyed by OOT. I have a hard time believing in any game that can get hit with SFF like that. I'm about to force myself to give up hope on Mario 64. Mario World did even worse, but at least it had an excuse - Mario 3 is a very similar game. Mario 64 doesn't have a game to compete with and it still couldn't make the top ten.

but I'll take World. I rarely encounter someone who likes Mario 64 but dislikes Mario 3/World, but I do know a bunch of people who are the other way around.

Fox/Ness: I'll take Fox and never look at my bracket again.

SSBM/FF7: SSBM does better, but not way better. 59/41, I'll say.

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Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3. - SMB3 is too strong. I don't see it getting SFFed by anything.

Fiction: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head. - No way. Keep in mind that the "adjusted" spring 2004 stats are pure fantasy. It might be my old-school bias, but I don't see any way this could happen.

Fact: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head. - MGS has two advantages: it was on the Playstation instead of the N64, and it has sequels to build its name recognition and popularity.

Fact: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them. - If it weren't for the MGS-FFT match, I would have taken MGS to beat FF VIII.

New one...

Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would have beaten Chrono Trigger if the site layout hadn't changed during the first round of the contest.
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Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would have beaten Chrono Trigger if the site layout hadn't changed during the first round of the contest.

Simply due to Crono beating Mario afew months after the change -- no matter the fact Mario smoked his **** last year -- I'm gonna swing with FACT. Anything could have changed that poll though, so I'm going to stick with my pick of LoZ:LttP in most any circumstance made.
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I'm gonna try a little FACT or FICTION of my own now.


FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.
FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.
FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.
FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.
FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.
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FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

FACT : A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

I'm not sure which one though.

FACT: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

Only Mega Man 2 and Mega Man X would

FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.
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Fact or Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3.

Fiction... to an extent. LttP is legitimately stronger, but Super Mario Bros. 3 would stand up rather well in a contest setting, being the most popular Mario game. There may be some SFF, but I couldn't see SMB3 getting beat worse than 55/45. But with the way that OoT beat Super Mario 64, a worse beating wouldn't be unexpected. It wouldn't matter much anyways. LttP wins no matter how you look at it.

Fact or Fiction: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head.

Fact. Although I'm not that fond of it, Super Mario 64 is the Mario game for many people (not me). The impact it made on the industry is uncanny, and the full jump to 3D gaming that it brought was amazing at the time. SM64 also got the worst matchup it could possibly get in OoT. Let it go against any other game in that generation and it could have done way better. SM64/OoT pretty much share the EXACT same fanbase, being big first party releases for the system. A game like Goldeneye could stand up to OoT better as it has a broader fanbase.

As for Super Mario World, I think it was released too close to SMB3 to stand out as much as SMB3 or SM64. Sure it would definitely stand up to SM64, being packaged with the SNES and all. But it wasn't the game on the system for nearly as long as SMB3 (which still is) and SM64 were. There were too many great games released in the first two years of the SNES for SMW to stand out as much as the other Mario games did. It was simply another great game amidst many on the system. I don't think people hold onto it as dearly as SMB3 and SM64. It would hold it's own in a direct matchup though. I just think SM64 beats it, especially with the DS fanbase behind it as well.

Fact or Fiction: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head.

Fact. Though Goldeneye does kick ass, Metal Gear is just a more popular franchise on this site, especially with its presence in the current gen. Close matchup, but I can't see Metal Gear not being able to hold Goldeneye at bay.

Fact or Fiction: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them.

Fact. Seeing Final Fantasy get 40% on SMB3 and rank above Metal Gear Solid and almost above MGS2 makes me think there may be a tad bit of franchise voting in the games contest, no? Plus, one things which makes it an obvious decision for me. Final Fantasy Tactics almost beat Metal Gear Solid. Final Fantasy VIII is more popular than FFT in my eyes. I couldn't see how FFVIII not outperforming FFT. FFVIII is no VII, but it would easily hold it's own in a contest setting.
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FACT: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.
FACT: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.
FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.
FACT: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.
FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.
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For all those mentioning SM64DS, I'd just like to point out that Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World is far more popular. It's actually the best-selling GBA game and the best-selling Mario game this generation.
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For all those mentioning SM64DS, I'd just like to point out that Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World is far more popular. It's actually the best-selling GBA game and the best-selling Mario game this generation.

It also came out four years ago. They're talking about an SM64 increase. Super Mario Advance 2 would already have worked its magic far before the Spring Contest ever started.
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For all those mentioning SM64DS, I'd just like to point out that Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World is far more popular. It's actually the best-selling GBA game and the best-selling Mario game this generation.

We have not been able to see Super Mario 64 benefit from the release of Super Mario 64 DS, whereas we would have seen Super Mario World benefit from Super Mario Advance 2.

But the best selling Mario game this generation, both in America and worldwide, is Super Mario Sunshine. It is the best selling GBA and Mario handheld game this generation though.

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It also came out four years ago. They're talking about an SM64 increase. Super Mario Advance 2 would already have worked its magic far before the Spring Contest ever started.

Maybe in terms of negating the advantage SM64ds would have, because it's a popular handheld? Ie, assuming the smw buyers are the same as the sm64 buyers?

Or not? Probably.
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FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

Fact. Although it wouldn't be a killing. Although there are plenty of people that like LttP better (myself included), OoT is simply too popular, as there are even more people that think OoT is the better game, including fans of both. I don't see how LttP could not avoid getting at least some SFF. Even on a board full of gaming purists, there are still a bunch of people that consider OoT as a better LttP, with the jump to 3D, added sidequests, more atmosphere, etc.

FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

Ficton. It's not like FF fans are NOT CT fans, so the Final Fantasy brand name definitely wouldn't mean anything over the 3rd most popular game on this site. FF3/6 is no slouch as well though, as it easily is a popular game on this site. The preference between the games are stout. It would go more or less as we expect it, with Chrono Trigger handling it with between 52-55% of the vote.

FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

I'll kill two birds in one stone and say fiction to both, with an explanation. I think the Mega Man franchise is unique from most other games in a contest setting. Mega Man games would be the epitome of franchise voting. You can't consider the games individually, as to the core they are all one in the same in terms of inherent gameplay (not counting BN, Legends). You have to take the Mega Man franchise as a whole. I couldn't see a majority of people supporting one game and not supporting the others.

We already know that Mega Man is popular on this site. I couldn't see his fans completely abandoning him in a games setting. I don't think 25% would be unreachable at all for his games. Even in worst case scenario, look at Sonic 2. It had a bad matchup against SMW and still managed to land above 20% on FF7 in the unadjusted x-stats. I think MM2, MM3, and MMX would all perform similarly in a contest setting, as the MM fanbase would easily support any of them. I think they would all land around 25% on FF7, possibly being a bit stronger.


FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.

Abstain. I didn't like MGS2 at all and haven't played MGS3 yet. I'm simply not in touch with the MGS fanbase outside of the first game.
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But the best selling Mario game this generation, both in America and worldwide, is Super Mario Sunshine. It is the best selling GBA and Mario handheld game this generation though.

My stats are fairly old...9 months or so. I didn't realize that SMS had sold more than half a million copies in that time though, or that SMA2 had sold almost none (in America).

We have not been able to see Super Mario 64 benefit from the release of Super Mario 64 DS, whereas we would have seen Super Mario World benefit from Super Mario Advance 2.

I just figured that since SMA2 didn't seem to have much an effect, SM64DS would have an even smaller one.

Oh, and...MGS3 would stand no chance against MGS2. MGS3 wasn't received as well as MGS2, and it wasn't nearly as popular either. Unless MGS3S is an astoundingly huge hit, MGS3 will stay third in popularity.
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Fiction: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3. - SMB3 is too close to LttP for SFF. The 2nd Zelda game can't SFF the first Mario game.

Abstain: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head. - I have always been under the impression that the Mario chain went SMB3 > SMW > SM64. That said, SM64 dominates the post-SNES audience, initially sold at almost a 1:1 clip with the N64, and has Super Mario 64 DS. There is no good way of determining exactly how much SFF Ocarina of Time got on it, and I would not be surprised to see it win.

Fiction: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head. - Goldeneye was the 3rd best selling game on the N64, with 5 million copies sold in America alone, ahead of Ocarina of Time, and carried the N64 for a while. Gamefaqs is very supportive of Nintendo compared to the general market. Metal Gear Solid is ahead in the x-stats, but there is definately overlap between the fanbases of GE and OOT, so SFF is certainly possible, and MGS did almost lose to FTT.

Fact: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them. - I just can't see FFVIII not being significantly stronger than FFT, so yes, it would beat both MGS and GE. If we go by the character order in the Summer Contest of the Square characters (Cloud > Crono > Squall > Tidus), it would indicate FFVIII is also stronger than FFX, which corresponds with its larger sales.

FACT: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP. -LttP has significant support, but the largest section of Zelda support would back OoT.

FACT: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform. -I don't think the Final Fantasy name would help FFVI any more than it did against LttP. As far as SFF goes, however, Crono SFF'd Kefka pretty badly, and CT would get a little bit of SFF in this match.

FACT: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7. -Megaman's support is too spread out.

FACT: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7. -Megaman's support may be spread out, but I think there are enough people who would vote for any Megaman game over FFVII to push 3 Megaman games to 20%.

FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.
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My stats are fairly old...9 months or so. I didn't realize that SMS had sold more than half a million copies in that time though, or that SMA2 had sold almost none (in America).

Without including the bundle, Super Mario Sunshine is at 2.3 million. Super Mario Advance 2 is at 2.4 million. If you include the bundle, Super Mario Sunshine is at 3.42 million in America.

I just figured that since SMA2 didn't seem to have much an effect, SM64DS would have an even smaller one.

Looking at it, Super Mario Advance 2 came out over two years before the games contest even started. But, SM64DS would have been about a year and half since it originally came out. I doubt the effect would be that great, but it helps that the recent mindset could be focused more on SM64DS. I said earlier I doubt that would be the factor that tips the scale in favor of SM64, but it would make me think harder.

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I can't really give a concrete reason why I believe SM64 would beat SMW. I just think that SM64 was horribly SFFd by OoT, and that it would give a much better account of itself if it could avoid a nintendo powerhouse.
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Just carrying this over from the "Do you agree with this opinion? Day 44: Smurf is Red." topic -- for better or for worse -- since this was Smurf's last comment in response to the five winners of the NRT:


I said none of them would be far from Vyse.
Scorpion would score no more than 55% on Vyse. (assuming Vyse did get Tifa SFF).

Scorpion 2k3 facing Vyse 2k3 (Scorpion was behind Auron/Seph in 2k4, and if Tifa SFF'd Vyse in 2k5 then we'll be safe and not use Vyse based off of Cloud) has Scorpion getting 61.5%. Sub-Zero would match that and more.

Also, you compared PoP to Lara Croft...who was last seen embarrassed in a contest atmosphere and would probably not break 42.5% on Vyse nowadays. That's something Ecco or Ike would be lucky to do, not PoP.
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I would pick both games over FF8. just because FF7 destroys everything from the PS1's generation doesn't mean FF8 will.

But MGS beat FFT by the slimmest of margins. That's why I asked.

FACT or FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP.

Fact. There's plenty of overlap in the fanbase, and the swing goes toward OoT. I don't think it'd be on the OoT/Mario 64 scale though.

FACT or FICTION: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform.

Fact. Remember Crono/Kefka?


FACT or FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.

Fiction.


FACT or FICTION: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7.

Fact. MM2, MM3, and MMX.

FACT or FICTION: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head.

I would take it purely out of bias.
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FACT: Link to the Past would SFF Mario 3.
FACT: Super Mario 64 would defeat Super Mario World head-to-head. - These two are basically tied together. I think SM64 got SFF'd pretty badly and LttP would do pretty much the same thing. I'll even say LttP would be pretty close to 65%

FICTION: Metal Gear Solid would defeat GoldenEye head-to-head. - I'd take Goldeneye in a rather close one.

FICTION: Final Fantasy VIII would defeat both of them. - Goldeneye > FF VIII > MGS. And yes it involves a lot of wishful thinking.

FACT: Link to the Past would have beaten Chrono Trigger if the site layout hadn't changed during the first round of the contest. - And I'd still pick Lttp > CT without hesitation.

FICTION: LoZ:OoT would SFF LoZ:LttP. - Maybe a little, but I think LttP can hold its ground.

FACT: A match with CT facing FF3/6 wouldn't go too close as expected (CT winning with 52.83%) because EITHER CT gets to SFF FF3/6 OR FF3/6's FF-recognition helps it over-perform. - This one hurts. A lot. And the match itself would be even worse, maybe a tripling.

FICTION: No Mega Man game could break 25% on FF7.
FACT: Three or more Mega Man games would break 20% on FF7. - Everything's been said already, there would be insane franchise voting but I can't really see any Mega Man game breaking 30% on FF7

FACT: MGS3 would beat MGS2 head-to-head. - No clue on that one, but in doubt always take the more recent game.

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Fact or Fiction: Starcraft's wins were legit. All three.
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I think people seriously overestimate the impact of the site layout change.
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You don't need much reasoning for LttP to be able to beat Chrono Trigger in a rematch.
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That's true, but I'd still take Chrono Trigger, and for some reason, I feel like I'd be in a minority this time around.
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I picked Chrono Trigger the first time around. I truly thought it was the most popular game on the SNES by far. I didn't think LttP would be nearly as strong as it was. I thought all the Zelda support would be thrown towards OoT and no others. I even picked Super Metroid over it, thinking that all Metroid fans would rally around it. That and MP > WW were the worst mistakes I made in that contest and cost me a prize.

I'd take LttP in a rematch though. Don't let the Top 100 game list fool you. Chrono Trigger is more of an overall favorite game than Link to the Past. Even Super Metroid was able to get a higher seed than LttP in the games contest. LttP's strength is in numbers, and the recent site shift is more than enough to swing that match by 200 votes.
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It's not like Chrono Trigger doesn't have numbers...
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Starcraft's wins were legit. All three.

Fiction. That was more than "b.net rallying" going on in the final hours against Wind Waker. SC got far enough ahead to take it easy, the SC votes stopped rolling in, and all of a sudden WW was catching back up. Then someone, who for the sake of remaining unbiased we'll call "A Bunch of Cheaters," caught wind of this and instantly SC goes on another little spurt to salt it away for good.

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Being probably the most clueless person on Starcraft in this topic during the Spring Contest, and probably even now, exactly how much rallying occured on Battle.net? I was hardly on the boards during the Spring Contest, so I have no idea what happened in most of the matches.
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I say fiction simply because of Halo/Starcraft EEAASSIILLYY the most popular match of the contest. Granted, it was uber-hyped, but still, that much more than any other match?

Oh, and SC/LoZ:WW and SC/SSBM.
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Fact or Fiction: Starcraft's wins were legit. All three.

Fiction. The obvious cheating attempt against Melee doesn't do much to help its legitimacy. As HaRRicH pointed out, the Halo/Starcraft voting boom is fishy, as is its ability to invariably change in strength based on its competition. I don't have much to back up that third claim, but imagining Halo going neck and neck with a console Zelda game is beyond the realm of possibility for me.
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Fact or Fiction: Starcraft's wins were legit. All three.

Fiction. There is absolutely, positively no way I can ever believe StarCraft's wins were legitimate after what it pulled during its match against SSBM. The Wind Waker, especially, left a bitter taste in my mouth after it was done. I have a hard time believing it won that match on its own merit and not through outside help. Halo/SC was also one that was rather questionable. But no, I simply don't believe StarCraft's wins were legitimate. Its case isn't helped by the fact it was caught blatantly cheating against SSBM, so I don't see how anyone can really agree there.

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The Wind Waker, especially, left a bitter taste in my mouth after it was done.

Heh, same here. That was the first time I got IM'd by another Board 8 member, and it was just to tell me that I was wasting my time cheering for Zelda. -__-

I tell ya, the Starcraft fever during that contest was unreal.
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Let me ask this...ya know, just to make sure.

Are we agreeing that Starcraft/Kingdom Hearts didn't involve cheating?
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I don't see why there would be cheating there. It was clear Starcraft would win in a semi-comfortable fashion from the start.
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of course not, but that was part of its appeal - you had no damn clue what was going to happen.

FACT OF FICTION: Starcraft would have outperformed SSBM vs. FF7.

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It certainly wasn't until after lockdown...more specifically, after KH's first match.

That said, I think it went normal too, I just want to see if there's a common ground on that field.
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oh, my comment was towards the question about Starcraft being legit - KH was definitely the most "legit" of its wins, though I don't think anybody knows what it would have been like without outside influences anyway. chances are that a percentage of the outside people who voted for SC over Halo stuck around to see what happened in round 2.
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FACT OF FICTION: Starcraft would have outperformed SSBM vs. FF7.

Oh, fiction. Way fiction. Aside from facing the strongest thing we've ever seen in a contest, Starcraft would have to deal with an extremely pissed Nintendo fanbase and any guys still brooding about the Halo loss. If such a match were to occur, I know I would have rallied my ass off for FFVII despite not playing either game.
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Starcraft would have outperformed SSBM vs. FF7.

*Looks at Vincent Valentine vs. Kerrigan*

FICTION!

I say the same thing I said to people who thought Starcraft fans would vote for Starcraft over anything. Not FF7. I rested my case when someone posted on a Starcraft site to rally votes for Kerrigan. The plea was rejected once someone found out that she was up against Vincent Valentine of FF7 fame. I know Kerrigan has nothing on her game, but I was just pointing out how much of a monster FF7 is. Even Starcraft fans would bow down to its popularity.

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I rested my case when someone posted on a Starcraft site to rally votes for Kerrigan. The plea was rejected once someone found out that she was up against Vincent Valentine of FF7 fame.

Man, that's still one of my favorite moments from SC2K5. That was just too good.
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I know you didn't just compare Kerrigan to Starcraft... right? I think it would do about as well as SSBM did.

Even Starcraft fans would bow down to its popularity.

just to make sure.. you're not saying there's FF7/Starcraft SFF.. right?

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Call it whatever you want. Starcraft fans wouldn't rally nearly as hard against FFVII as they would against a Halo, Wind Waker, or SSBM. Everything isn't all black and white like we'd like to think it is in a contest setting.
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interesting.. so you think that Kerrigan would have done significantly better against, say, Bowser?

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No. Kerrigan flat out sucks. Stop SFF witch-hunting. =P
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:)

hey, you said it, not me!
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Call it whatever you want. Starcraft fans wouldn't rally nearly as hard against FFVII as they would against a Halo, Wind Waker, or SSBM. Everything isn't all black and white like we'd like to think it is in a contest setting.

...no, it's not black and white. Starcraft's strength increased when it was up against stronger opponents. It would've done best of all against FFVII, since FFVII's the strongest game in the contest.

The only thing that would prevent such a thing from happening would be anti-votes. If it had won over SSBM, a lot of people would have been very annoyed.
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I also think Kerrigan may be a bit underestimated. Just like Diablo did during the Villains contest, Kerrigan would beat the crap out of people who are "supposed" to be around her level in strength.
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Kerrigan would lose to Kuja and I'd bet my account on it. She sucks that bad.

"Kerrigan" and "beat the crap out of" should not be in the same sentence unless she is on the receiving end of it.
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Kerrigan would not beat the crap out of anything around her level.

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We adults realize that Link has an ulterior motive: to quench his man-thirst in the eager stream of womanly passion.

...no, it's not black and white. Starcraft's strength increased when it was up against stronger opponents. It would've done best of all against FFVII, since FFVII's the strongest game in the contest.

The only thing that would prevent such a thing from happening would be anti-votes. If it had won over SSBM, a lot of people would have been very annoyed.

I disagree here. Starcraft's strength can increase, but I doubt it would happen against a game so far out of its league. Think about it: why did people rally in the first place? The matches against Halo, Zelda, and SSBM were all close enough to warrant rallying. A solid effort could have (and in two of those instanced, did) shifted the decision in Starcraft's favor. Now, imagine rallying when your game is already being 60/40'D. There's absolutely no point to it. The support would give up quickly.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.