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Leonhart did indeed leave, and said he wasn't coming back until contest time... maybe someone else has to run the tournament?
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Leonhart4 hasn't completely left, he's join going to be far less active. Even assuming he doesn't want to do the nominations tourney, I doubt he would mind passing it to someone else if they asked him.
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If that is so, then we should be quick about it. If there's a spring contest, it's going to begin, what, two months from now? And I don't think anyone wants that tournament overlapping with an official contest, even if it's the nomination/bracketmaking phase.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

I wouldn't think a Spring Contest would be a traditional Character Battle, it'll either be a Game Contest or some gimmick Character Battle like the Villain Contest was.

it's tough to hold a rally when you don't know what the contest is going to be.


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It's, of course, meant to be a rally contest for the Character Battle. You know, the fifth of which will be held this summer?

Damn, the fifth already. Those days of screaming and kicking for Donkey Kong to get the hell away from Aya Brea are so far behind now.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Unless there's a massive swing in voters, GTA3:SA is going to finish 3rd in the poll. If it had won the poll and advanced to the final round and was NOT marked as the PC version, do you think it would do better, if so how much?
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Slowflake would be good for doing Leon's contest in his stead. Just remember that one of the five needs to get a snub back into the contest in '06.

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Currently Playing: Dragon Warrior, Deus Ex, Perfect Dark, FFTA

Speaking of GotY polls, DQVII is winning the PS2 one right now, though if Alucard/Kratos is any indication GoW is going to come out as the final winner. So, Mario Kart DS, Minish Cap, Resident Evil 4, God of War, PSP, XBox, X360...sounds like a pretty easy win for RE4.
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I'm not surprised GoW is winning.
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No one knows whether what happened between Sora and Snake was their legitimate strengths or not, and that affect Alucard and Kratos as well.

Meanwhile, Leon scored a lot higher on Mega Man than most people expected him to.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 1/5/2006 2:40:48 AM | #258
Slowflake would be good for doing Leon's contest in his stead. Just remember that one of the five needs to get a snub back into the contest in '06.

I believe holding a side contest of 32 snubs in parallel with the real contest would be the best idea.

And it'd be an honor for me to do this. If no one has a problem with this, someone should contact Leon about this.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

I'm impressed with how SOTC is doing thus far. above SC3? impressive.

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He wouldn't give a crap, but I can try getting in touch with him if you want to.

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It's more out of principle than anything else, because it's his tournament.

Anyway, I was thinking of something. Since one of the five characters has to come out of the returner tournament, that'd give the "real" one four, making the Final 4 the four elected characters, right? So if we keep going single elimination style all the way, there'd be little to no point in the late matches... so I thought of something. Have the Elite 8 involved in a round robin, then the four with the most wins are the "winners" (with the for/against differential as tiebreaker). It'd have the advantage of keeping the stakes higher, longer. Would that be good or just lame?

Also, I figured we shouldn't let Jay Solano compete. Not only would it probably be an easy win for him, but he doesn't need the extra oomph in rallying (in fact, it'd probably do diddly squat, as it's likely anyone who's rallied to the cause will nominate him). This tournament should be for those who need it, such as the five winners from last year.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Cloud Strife WILL beat Link this year. Just throwing that randomness out there.
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I'm pretty pleased with SotC's showing today.

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Too fast for the naked eye -- Sonic the Hedgehog.

SotC doing well pleases me too. No doubt on that.

I'm also cool with everything Slowflake said, assuming he does run Leonhart's contest instead of Leonhart.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? He floats like a butterfly and stings like a...butterfly. Can't match grace like that.

DQVIII going well against GoW
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

Yeah. I didn't expect to win, considering Tanner's contest power dwarves the Japanese userbase here, but it's still holding its own in a fashion I may or may not have expected.

And by the way, should I run the tournament, should I allow villain contest exclusives like Ridley or MH in? You could say they made a contest, but they never made the one.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Considering Leonhart tried to hold those who nominated Revolver to nominate him in both, I would think they should be left out...though I wish MH would return to face ANY Nintendo character. Even Pikachu would beat the hell out of him.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? He floats like a butterfly and stings like a...butterfly. Can't match grace like that.

Hmm, good point. Eggman's one I'd like to see back (though it'd have to be at Tails' expense) to see if he got some sort of SFF against Ganondorf.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Oh! Robotnik is a rather nice choice for one to comeback.

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Blue streak, speeds by -- Sonic the Hedgehog.
Too fast for the naked eye -- Sonic the Hedgehog.

I agree that I'd like to see Dr. Robotnik back, and I like him more than Tails...but I oh-so doubt he got SFF'd by Ganondorf. It's a Nintendo villain against a Sega villain, (I think) the two Sonic polls had Dr. Robotnik only beating one or two characters in the most-favorite and either won or came close in the least-favorite, and it would have been hard for the pic to be much more in his favor than what it was.

Besides, Sega had success this year in several perspectives. Dr. Robotnik won a four-pack, Knuckles exposed Magus and appears in the unadjusted stats higher than ZERO, Sonic beat Diablo with linkage noticably worse than Ganondorf did when Diablo was linkless THEN shut up the Tifa-upset supporters and went toe-to-toe with Mega Man to decide who gets into the Final Four. Tails and Shadow, meanwhile, were nowhere to be seen this year...though I would guess they both gained a lil' since Knuckles and Shadow did. Also, with Shadow the Hedgehog out and...Sonic Rush, I think it's called (whatever the highly-acclaimed DS title is), that would make for more potential gains for those two. Not to mention that Shadow was last seen in the 20XX-mess and Tails was behind Sonic/Viewtiful Dante...and Viewtiful Joe was beaten by Tails.....



Not that I'm a fan of Shadow, and Robotnik > Tails in my book, but I'd much rather see those two in the contest next year than Robotnik.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? He floats like a butterfly and stings like a...butterfly. Can't match grace like that.

Also, speaking of Shadow the Hedgehog, that game's the reason why I think there'll still be a multi-platform poll.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? He floats like a butterfly and stings like a...butterfly. Can't match grace like that.

Well, it got dismal reviews, and even DMC3's been ditched for... Guitar Hero? What the HELL is that?

Sonic Rush had a reason to be excluded, at least - the DS poll was ridiculously stacked.

Quiz question: which games from yesterday's poll (PC), aside from San Andreas, would Mario Party 7 beat, you think?
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Every single one of them, and on an unrelated note the original Mario Party would slaughter it and any other incarnation.

As for Shadow...well, it was a better game than DMC2. Eh.

Psst... Prince of Persia.

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Well, it got dismal reviews, and even DMC3's been ditched for... Guitar Hero? What the HELL is that?


While DMC3 shoulda made the list, at least Guitar Hero isn't in last place.....

*looks at Tekken 5*
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? He floats like a butterfly and stings like a...butterfly. Can't match grace like that.

In my opinion, characters who were in the villain contest shouldn't be eligible for the "new" slots. They could be eligible for the "snub" slot if they weren't in SC2k5. And I agree with the decision to keep Jay Solano separate.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6.

Whoa, Guitar Hero passed Tekken 5? Ouch.

So, I'd be ready to start the nominations for the tournament tomorrow morning if no one has any OBJECTION!!! Sorry, had to. So, in essence, my suggestions:

- 128 characters, not including the returners (more would be unnecessary)
- Elite 8 enters round robin tournament: the four with the most wins win rally spots (for/against differential as tiebreaker)
- Side contest with 32 characters who have been in a contest in 2002 or 2003 but not since then, winner gets last rally spot
- No Jay Solano
- Allow the villain contest exclusives to be nominated (very much up for debate because of the seeming uncertainty around this one: I may ditch it)
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Speaking of the devil, while I'm typing... pretty good idea to have them in the returner tournament.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Actually, not only is it a good idea, it's almost a must: without it, 43 characters are left to fight for the 32 returner slots, which would lead to unbearable amounts of fodder (not to mention it'd be hard to get people to nominate 32 different characters), while adding the villain rejects pushes that number up to 65 (although there still is a lot of fodder, such a tournament could get a hand from the Ridleys and Bisons and stuff).

Also, I was planning to do the nominations in the same style as the 10AC, that is, give one character 10 points, another 9, etc. This would be so the seedings could be based on a little more than dumb luck. When you have fifty characters with one nomination, you know...
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Sounds good to me.

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Sounds good. I forgot to mention that I really like the round robin idea.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6.

Yeah, not only does it keep the stakes higher longer, as I said, but it also helps counter the otherwise necessary assumption that the Final 4 are the top characters in the contest. If there's a quarter of the bracket that's somewhat lacking/stacked compared to the rest, we can still see no/two characters from that quadrant among the winners.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

I agree that I'd like to see Dr. Robotnik back, and I like him more than Tails...but I oh-so doubt he got SFF'd by Ganondorf.

I don't think there was necessarily SFF, but. . .I don't know, something weird happened. Kuja being horrible fodder? Understandable. Kuja being less popular than Ramierz, Albedo and Ghaleon? I can't really think of any explanation for that one.
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Not to mention, Eggman's a freaking legend among villains. I don't think he ever did something to be grouped along fallen legends like Lara Croft or Crash Bandicoot.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Like I said before, I think Robotnik suffered from the Who Cares factor, meaning that as soon as he went up against a character somebody actually CARED about, his support just collapsed. I too don't think that Kuja sucks enough to get beat by the likes of Ghaleon, Albedo, and Ramirez.
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Speaking of Robotnik, I finally got to play Shadow the Hedgehog. I'm not really impressed. Although it is indeed better than Sonic Heroes, it's still leagues behind the Sonic Adventure games. The controls in the last two games have been borderline horrendous. I never had the constant feeling that I was about to slip off edges by simply walking in the SA games like I have in SH and StH. I was always in full control.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Going back to Shadow, I want to explore something that was mentioned a topic or two back...would he be able to beat Knuckles?

If your answer is yes (this is the more important question) would he be able to get some form of SFF on him due to his similar appearance to Sonic?

I wouldn't pick Shadow over Knuckles, myself.

Like I said before, I think Robotnik suffered from the Who Cares factor, meaning that as soon as he went up against a character somebody actually CARED about, his support just collapsed.

That seemed to be what I found to be the case with him against Ganon.

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Blue streak, speeds by -- Sonic the Hedgehog.
Too fast for the naked eye -- Sonic the Hedgehog.

If he was able to get proxy vote on Mario, why not on Knuckles?

The prospect is sickening, I know.

Although it is indeed better than Sonic Heroes, it's still leagues behind the Sonic Adventure games.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

Sorry, had to.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

The Sonic Adventure games are damn awesome, so there's certainly nothing too wrong about being leagues behind them.

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Blue streak, speeds by -- Sonic the Hedgehog.
Too fast for the naked eye -- Sonic the Hedgehog.

Personally, I don't have a hard time with Kuja being uber-weak. Most of the people I know who played FF IX really disliked Kuja. I liked FF IX a lot but there's hardly anyone I'd vote for Kuja against. Robotnik is more or less the same story... he's well known, but he's not at all likeable.
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Nominate Aeris for SC2k6.

I think he means it being better than Sonic Heroes, it being his favorite Sonic game and all (IIRC).

Duuuuude. I threw a ****ing fit when Deem Bristow died.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

Oh yeah, that was sad. Eggman's replacement in ShtH is not up to par, suffice to say.

Nah, not quite. It's certainly up there though.
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Y'know, a girl should really consider a change of career when getting shot out of a mass driver at hypersonic speeds seems mundane.
-Samus Aran (M''')

What'd be your favorite, then?