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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 273
From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:26:40 PM | Message Detail
http://sixtyone.ytmnd.com/
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:28:19 PM | Message Detail
Has there been new news about a delay? I thought TP was still scheduled for Spring '06.
Well, apparently from an interview with Club Nintendo -- note that this is a translation -- Reggie confirmed that it was going to release in April. As nice as that sounds, I'll remain very skeptical after the holiday season was also a confirmed release date for the game. The interview was something like this...
CN: The delay of "Twilight Princess" is because it could be launched for the Revolution system in 2006?
Reggie: The reason of the delay was because Miyamoto said he wants it to be the best Zelda ever, but it's a hard record to achieve, so he asked for more time. We will be launching it in April and will be for Gamecube.
And KH2 could be delayed as well. It's not like development for it is proceeding very quickly.
KH2 will be out before Twilight Princess comes out, I'll say that much. The American release date keeps slipping, but it's still scheduled to come out at the end of December this year in Japan. The American date right now is March. The development on that game is more or less complete unless they give another quick delay for Japan.
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The courage beyond compare, the bravery beyond description, I praise this great hero, the superior fiend... me.
Well, apparently from an interview with Club Nintendo -- note that this is a translation -- Reggie confirmed that it was going to release in April. As nice as that sounds, I'll remain very skeptical after the holiday season was also a confirmed release date for the game. The interview was something like this...
CN: The delay of "Twilight Princess" is because it could be launched for the Revolution system in 2006?
Reggie: The reason of the delay was because Miyamoto said he wants it to be the best Zelda ever, but it's a hard record to achieve, so he asked for more time. We will be launching it in April and will be for Gamecube.
And KH2 could be delayed as well. It's not like development for it is proceeding very quickly.
KH2 will be out before Twilight Princess comes out, I'll say that much. The American release date keeps slipping, but it's still scheduled to come out at the end of December this year in Japan. The American date right now is March. The development on that game is more or less complete unless they give another quick delay for Japan.
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The courage beyond compare, the bravery beyond description, I praise this great hero, the superior fiend... me.
From: DomaDragoon
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:28:28 PM | Message Detail
*slaps you with a glove*
Master Hand, no!
That's the problem with most people making brackets. You should have at least 15 new characters in any bracket.
That's debatable. Of course, I think there should be a large turnover from year to year, with plenty of opportunity for people to come back after a year or two of hiatus. I think 15 is a bit high to set as a minimum, though it's probably pretty close to the optimum amount. I'd say that any bracket that manages to come up with ten good new characters that fill roles (spoiler, Tanner fodder, giving CATS a win, trap match) isn't doing too badly.
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Season 22 Team Match: Myria, Kratos, Marle, Sheena vs. Seymour, Lulu, Worker 8, Flare: www.rpgdl.com.
Not ranked, featuring Kevin (SD3) vs. Zero (MMX:CM)
Master Hand, no!
That's the problem with most people making brackets. You should have at least 15 new characters in any bracket.
That's debatable. Of course, I think there should be a large turnover from year to year, with plenty of opportunity for people to come back after a year or two of hiatus. I think 15 is a bit high to set as a minimum, though it's probably pretty close to the optimum amount. I'd say that any bracket that manages to come up with ten good new characters that fill roles (spoiler, Tanner fodder, giving CATS a win, trap match) isn't doing too badly.
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Season 22 Team Match: Myria, Kratos, Marle, Sheena vs. Seymour, Lulu, Worker 8, Flare: www.rpgdl.com.
Not ranked, featuring Kevin (SD3) vs. Zero (MMX:CM)
From: Applause Sign
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:28:37 PM | Message Detail
FTW! o_O
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
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From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:29:33 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, that entire sequence in MGS2 is very messed up.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: Applause Sign
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:33:02 PM | Message Detail
It gave me a boner... is that messed up?
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
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From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:34:10 PM | Message Detail
Nah, that's a pretty standard reaction.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:34:24 PM | Message Detail
New guys fill the purpose of being more unpredictable as far as their
strength go, but I like having alot of returning characters too where
the matches themselves are unpredictable instead of the characters.
Now, that's not to say we haven't had some great matches like that
(Frog/Liquid for two new guys, Hayabusa/Jill for one new guy...there's
two examples), but I also like to have good ideas for a character's
strength and finding their near-equal to pit them against. That way,
more debate can actually occur (and, color me crazy, but I think people
feel more strongly for characters they've seen in contests before too,
thus making some debates THAT much more debated).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:35:18 PM | Message Detail
...What colors make up crazy, if I might ask?
Man, I love Southern expressions.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
Man, I love Southern expressions.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:37:42 PM | Message Detail
Orange and white, obviously.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: Applause Sign
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:44:06 PM | Message Detail
Vincent Valentine and Sarah Kerrigan brought up one hell of a lot discussion... and they were both new. >_>
Hell Vincent brought a hell of a lot of discussion even past the first round.
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
Hell Vincent brought a hell of a lot of discussion even past the first round.
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:51:31 PM | Message Detail
Which is true...but I'm not going to acknowledge Vincent/Kerrigan deserving half the discussion it got.
Besides, I was getting more at good matches than good discussion; two new guys will always have discussion. I'm just saying that, when you have a match that you know is pretty even on behalf of both sides, that automatically brings up more of a need to discuss why one takes what stance to those who discuss such matters. Discussion comes naturally from even matches and will likely last longer and seem smarter...even matches don't come naturally from discussion, which will likely last as long but will probably bear a LOT more repeating of the same things over and over.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
Besides, I was getting more at good matches than good discussion; two new guys will always have discussion. I'm just saying that, when you have a match that you know is pretty even on behalf of both sides, that automatically brings up more of a need to discuss why one takes what stance to those who discuss such matters. Discussion comes naturally from even matches and will likely last longer and seem smarter...even matches don't come naturally from discussion, which will likely last as long but will probably bear a LOT more repeating of the same things over and over.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:53:49 PM | Message Detail
...Frog/Liquid was pretty good for a pair of newbies, too. One of the
best matches of 2004. Granted, that was one that didn't get a lot of
discussion beforehand. Everyone thought Frog was gonna take it easily.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: Applause Sign
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:55:09 PM | Message Detail
He did take it easily. By Ulti's standards, he crushed him. >_>
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:56:26 PM | Message Detail
Well, compared to the match with Master Chief, he did. He beat Liquid 13.29 times worse.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: Applause Sign
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:57:00 PM | Message Detail
XD
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
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Cheer Up Emo Kids.
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 12/4/2005 8:58:10 PM | Message Detail
Frog/Liquid was probably the only match I ever felt *vindicated* on,
even if Liquid fell short at the end. It's the only match where I
actually had some idiot e-mail me before it to rant about how Liquid
had no chance at taking out Frog and that Frog had a great chance at
upsetting Snake.
In retrospect, I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that assessment now...
In retrospect, I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that assessment now...
From: LessThan3Presea
| Posted: 12/4/2005 9:01:02 PM | Message Detail
Frog did upset Snake though.
Just the wrong one.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
Just the wrong one.
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"A huge void in her heart. It is filled not by darkness, but kindness from others." - Presea Combatir, the Empty Soul
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 9:21:01 PM | Message Detail
And upset a different crowd.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:21:25 PM | Message Detail
Message From HaRRicH at 2005-12-05 06:18:36
What games/series caused you to be most familiar with Donkey Kong?
--Donkey Kong (the original game)
--The Donkey Kong Country series
--Donkey Kong 64
--Super Smash Brothers/Melee
--Multiple side-roles in Mario spin-offs
--...Donkey Kong is that one ape I think, right?
I just sent it and don't have high hopes of it getting used by CJay, but I think the results would be interesting to see if nothing else.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
What games/series caused you to be most familiar with Donkey Kong?
--Donkey Kong (the original game)
--The Donkey Kong Country series
--Donkey Kong 64
--Super Smash Brothers/Melee
--Multiple side-roles in Mario spin-offs
--...Donkey Kong is that one ape I think, right?
I just sent it and don't have high hopes of it getting used by CJay, but I think the results would be interesting to see if nothing else.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:22:30 PM | Message Detail
Last option should've been "The black-and-white movie."
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:27:37 PM | Message Detail
I wanted to say something about that, but I couldn't think of a witty way to say it, heh. Touche, [Leonhart4].
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:28:47 PM | Message Detail
Hmmm...Now I'm sort of intrigued by the idea of a "Favorite Kong" poll.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:30:27 PM | Message Detail
Cranky Kong for the win.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:31:20 PM | Message Detail
Diddy > Cranky > The rest don't really matter
I'm just sort of getting curious about the possibility of what Diddy would do in a contest.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
I'm just sort of getting curious about the possibility of what Diddy would do in a contest.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:33:46 PM | Message Detail
That was my inspiration for the poll I sent; I think the success of DKC
(and DK64, maybe) would tell a decent idea about how many DK fans are
also likely Diddy fans. Of course, nowhere near exactly, but it would
give for a better range.
That and I really wanna know what makes DK so well known.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
That and I really wanna know what makes DK so well known.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:36:53 PM | Message Detail
Fact or Fiction: Pac Man is more prone to SFF than any other contest veteran.
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Dragon Warrior, Deus Ex, Goldeneye, Shadow of the Colossus
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Dragon Warrior, Deus Ex, Goldeneye, Shadow of the Colossus
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:37:49 PM | Message Detail
depends on your definition of "Veteran". my answer would be Master Hand.
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From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:41:56 PM | Message Detail
Someone who has been in more than one match. We can't really grade Ms
Pac Man for the same question, because that's a technicality =p
~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Dragon Warrior, Deus Ex, Goldeneye, Shadow of the Colossus
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Currently Playing: Dragon Warrior, Deus Ex, Goldeneye, Shadow of the Colossus
From: therealmnm
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:47:31 PM | Message Detail
Fact or Fiction: Pac Man is more prone to SFF than any other contest veteran.
Most likely. Though it's a different and more advanced case of SFF. I'd like to call it the "don't care" factor. It works in two ways for Pac-Man.
One, since everyone is familiar with him, he serves as a "default" vote for those that don't care for his opponent (i.e. Revolver Ocelot). So if Pac-Man goes against someone that has a cult or isolated fanbase, he will most likely automatically get the votes of those not in said fanbase.
BUT...
Two, once Pac-Man goes up against somebody that people generally actually care about or are as known as Pac-Man (as we've seen with Luigi and Yoshi), then Pac-Man loses his "default" vote.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
Most likely. Though it's a different and more advanced case of SFF. I'd like to call it the "don't care" factor. It works in two ways for Pac-Man.
One, since everyone is familiar with him, he serves as a "default" vote for those that don't care for his opponent (i.e. Revolver Ocelot). So if Pac-Man goes against someone that has a cult or isolated fanbase, he will most likely automatically get the votes of those not in said fanbase.
BUT...
Two, once Pac-Man goes up against somebody that people generally actually care about or are as known as Pac-Man (as we've seen with Luigi and Yoshi), then Pac-Man loses his "default" vote.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:57:02 PM | Message Detail
...and therealmnm beats me to it. However, Master Hand made it in more
than one match, so I'm gonna say it would get SFF'd worse
percentage-wise by Ganondorf than anybody could SFF Pac-Man.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 10:59:15 PM | Message Detail
yep, I believe in the so-called "well-known/oldschool SFF" as well. I
hate the term, but it makes sense - if someone's got everything you
have plus more, you're gonna get destroyed. if you put him against,
say, a New Square character, he'll show his strength better than he
will against a Mario character.
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xyzzy
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xyzzy
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:05:05 PM | Message Detail
I'd kinda like to see a Pac-Man/Ramza match...and I don't really know
why Ramza was the new-Square character that came to mind, heh.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:05:44 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and I'm up for calling that the Pac-Fac(tor).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:06:42 PM | Message Detail
Pac-Fac it is. (TPF?)
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From: TheLastOblesik
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:08:46 PM | Message Detail
What if this was the Midgar division:
1 Cloud
8 Cait Sith
4 Tifa
5 Aeris
2 Sephy
7 Cid
3 Vincent
6 Barret
1 Cloud
8 Cait Sith
4 Tifa
5 Aeris
2 Sephy
7 Cid
3 Vincent
6 Barret
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:10:14 PM | Message Detail
the only match up for debate is Tifa-Aeris, where it depends on who you ask.
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xyzzy
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:10:19 PM | Message Detail
I was thinkin' PF if we abbreviate that one at all, heh. At first
glance, even knowing the context, "Toilet Paper Factor" was the first
thing that crossed my mind.
Shame on me, sure.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
Shame on me, sure.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: Janus5000
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:11:02 PM | Message Detail
Ramza might actually be a decent match for the Pacster; he's relatively
weak, and while his value might be underrated (though I doubt it), he
might have gone down due to negligence. He's only been in one game,
right?
And that Midgar division lacks Reno.
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voltch... he come to town... come to own... the silly gurus...
And that Midgar division lacks Reno.
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voltch... he come to town... come to own... the silly gurus...
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:11:12 PM | Message Detail
two letter acronyms suck though. Pac-Fac itself works fine.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:11:12 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, and I'll be takin' Tifa.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:13:26 PM | Message Detail
remove Clouderoth and that's a little more interesting..
1 - Vincent
8 - Yuffie
4 - Red XIII
5 - Barret
3 - Tifa
6 - Cait Sith
2 - Aeris
7 - Rufus Shinra
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xyzzy
1 - Vincent
8 - Yuffie
4 - Red XIII
5 - Barret
3 - Tifa
6 - Cait Sith
2 - Aeris
7 - Rufus Shinra
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xyzzy
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:15:57 PM | Message Detail
blah, I forgot Cid. swap Cid in for Rufus.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:17:58 PM | Message Detail
Like either of them have a chance against Aeris, heh. I'll risk Barret
> Red XIII (not too confident at all in that one though) and I'll
take Tifa over Vincent.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: LeonhartForever
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:20:33 PM | Message Detail
Barret stands no chance of beating Red XIII. Forget it.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:20:36 PM | Message Detail
yeah, I don't know who'd win that one either. I guess I'd pick Red over Barret, but who knows.
Tifa > Vincent for me as well.
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xyzzy
Tifa > Vincent for me as well.
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xyzzy
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:24:01 PM | Message Detail
Probably not; I think it's me thinkin' Red XIII is over-rated and
Barret is under-rated (coupled with a lil' preference, heh) than
actually thinkin' that Barret would beat Red XIII...I don't think
Barret would be beaten by much though. Like, say, 55-45.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
From: transience
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:24:45 PM | Message Detail
personally, I hope we don't see either of them. we've seen enough from FF7.
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From: therealmnm
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:25:18 PM | Message Detail
55-45 is a pretty sound beating for something that would be considered as debatable. I think Barret is safely under Red XIII.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 12/4/2005 11:25:53 PM | Message Detail
Gone to bed now...
...who would be the strongest character(s) you would put the Prince of Persia over?
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.
...who would be the strongest character(s) you would put the Prince of Persia over?
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Sean Paul made a song about Jay, though nobody understands a damn word of it.