You also had Magus > Dante?

Actually...I had Dante > Magus. It was stupid, but it really didn't make a difference, now did it?
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Leo: Well, what do you think of the decal? It's a p-
Aeris: I KNOW.

The funny thing is, even if Magus had ended up validating his 2k3 performance, both Sonic and Snake could have kicked his ass this year.

Hell, I had Magus over Terra as the Devil Division Final.
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Jman_gamerX8 PWNed me in the Guru Contest. . . .Stupid Cloud.
On Default Team Name in Trivia XVI

Me too!
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pi

Dante > Magus, even if a match would actually be close between the two, looks like a stroke of genius now in comparison to how the same prospect looked before Magus was exposed and before it became evident Dante boosted some.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Squall > Vincent. Man, 1200 votes away.

I still take satisfaction in sticking with Squall when the Magus supporters said I was just being a stupid fanboy though.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I actually considered Dante > Magus.. my problem was thinking that Squall was overrated and not believing in Vincent as much as I should have. I picked Magus in the division because he seemed to be the least worst choice.
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xyzzy

Squall didn't really have much reason to be overrated in the first place. If you were thinking about Squall over Magus, it should have been on faith in thinking that Squall was genuinely more popular than Magus.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Squall didn't really have much reason to be overrated in the first place.

Try telling that to everyone who said Knuckles was going to beat Squall after round one.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

eh, if you subscribed (note the past tense) to the "KHF is wearing off" theory along with no valid 2k4 rating, it's pretty easy to come to that conclusion.
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xyzzy

*were smoking crack.

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Explicit Content, Thrusting Harder Than Ever
I was busy watching porn with my parents so I wouldn't know. - snalien

I said Knuckles was going to beat Squall after round one in hope that Knux could pull off the upset, not that Squall was overrated. I don't care what year it was, or what the demographic was, anyone that can hand Luigi his ass is pretty strong in my eyes. Squall made people think Luigi would have trouble with KOS-MOS!
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Well, I had countless arguments on this board about how Squall underperformed against Bomberman and Kirby, etc.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I said Knuckles was going to beat Squall after round one in hope that Knux could pull off the upset, not that Squall was overrated.

Bingo.


I know how Leonhart feels about Squall > Magus, thanks to MH > Kuja; arguing valiantly and respectably for an upset while being ridiculed and passed off by many people becomes oh-so sweet when the joke falls onto them.

Vindication rules.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

Yeah, though I do kinda wish that Squall had gotten to beat him head-to-head. Still, Knux taking down Magus was worth it.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I know how Leonhart feels about Squall > Magus, thanks to MH > Kuja; arguing valiantly and respectably for an upset while being ridiculed and passed off by many people becomes oh-so sweet when the joke falls onto them.

And despite that, all your arguments were wrong. Kuja's weakness surprised everyone, as I recall. The only difference was that you though Master Hand would be (relatively) strong, and even in that you were wrong.
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voltch may not pwn with English, but he can certainly pwn gurus.
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Oh yeah, no doubt I was wrong on most stances about that match; you won't hear me deny that. I argued mostly with Leonhart about the match (though I was open game for everyone, as was Master Mage, FastFalcon, and either Pheduik or cyko -- I forget which), and I believe he was more right overall about where the two stood than I was (I know he had MH's about right, whereas I had Kuja being over-rated right...we were both wrong in most other points though). My saving grace was that Master Hand won -- the big thing here, heh, or else I would have had next-to-nothing right about that one.

There is one argument of mine I'll still defend though: the upset-poll. While I was wrong on my fair share of things, I was completely justified in defending MH in that poll. Meanwhile, seemingly everybody else was too busy being impressed by M. Bison...who was between MH and CATS in that one. I still don't understand the shocking support M. Bison got from that poll yet people kept dismissing MH in it because of the small vote totals.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

I can't believe people were shocked that Bison beat Albedo. As much as he was hyped up, Xenosaga is still not on the popularity level of a Street Fighter. And to add insult to injury, you don't even SEE Albedo until late in the game. At least KOS-MOS has some game recognizability along with being a hot chick. Albedo has none of that...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I did well in that division by simply having faith in Vincent and FF7

Indeed.


For me, that part was the best in the contest. <3

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Amid the turmoil and tumult of battle, there may be seeming disorder and yet no real disorder at all...
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

magus's loss will be the stuff of legends for many contests to come right?
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

magus's loss will be the stuff of legends for many contests to come right?

Of course. It was especially satisfying when many people were talking about Magus potentially doubling up Knuckles. Talk about falling flat on your face...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Doubling up Knuckles? I must've missed that one.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

You forgot? Remember people were still thinking that Magus was potentially stronger than Sonic and Snake? Some of them were looking for Magus to almost double up Knux if I remember correctly. I definitely know that doubling up Knux was mentioned numerous times though.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I remember talks of doubling too. I'm not sure how seriously people were meaning it, but I know I heard it a time or two too.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

I seem to remember some mid-60s predictions for Magus.

Man, that was awesome.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

FastFalcon, and either Pheduik or cyko

OMG you said my name! I count, I matter, hurray!

And, yes, I did have master hand (double hurray), but it was funny, because I changed that in the extra window of opportunity when predictions didn't close right when they were supposed to. I was proud of that change though; it was just more fun to have than anything else. Upset picks in general, even when they're insane, are just fun to have.



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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb

Mid-60s? Damn, that was sick. For Magus to have been able to pull mid-60s on Knuckles, he needed to be on par with pre-boost Mario. LOL. And that's UNBOOSTED Knuckles to boot. On boosted Knuckles, then? How 'bout being able to beat Samus and post-boost Mario?

lol mid-60. These guys were nuts. 60 was about the best Magus could hope for if his performance on Link was his true strength.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Well, it depends on what Knux you believed, the adjusted 20XX version or the unadjusted.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I won't pick on them too much though, Slow. I'm still smarting from my calling for Zero to get 45% on Mario.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Oh, that explains a lot. Of course, the unadjusted ended up being a steamy pile of crap.

Talk about being wrong on everything. And I mean, EVERYTHING.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Well, 45% wasn't a bad prediction before Mario started taking steroids in addition to his usual intake of 'shrooms.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

How much did Zero end up getting anyway?

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Nominate Meta-Knight for the next Spring and/or Summer contest!

37.14%
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

37-38%, I think.

And even if Zero was to get 45% on pre-boost Mario, it would've taken a Zero at the very top of his performance range. As it turns out, he actually dropped slightly along with Megaman or was overrated all along. Not by a considerable amount, but still...
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Magus doubling Knuckles? Haha, how ridiculous.

...

*hides head in shame*
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voltch... he come to town... come to own... the silly gurus...

I still think that Zero may have underperformed slightly due to going up directly against Mario. I think Mega Man and Sonic would probably do the same if they were to go up against Mario, although Sonic may stand up to him slightly due to the rivalry they had. But Sonic's ability to rise up to Mega Man makes me wary of what Mario could have done to the Blue Bomber...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

After seeing what Shadow did, I highly doubt Sonic would underperform against Mario.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Shadow's performance on Mario is what got me in the whole mess with choosing Samus and pegging Zero to take an equally large chunk out of Mario.

Run away Shadow. Run away and never return.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Shadow won't be running away next year, that's for sure. He'll be back.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

After seeing what Shadow did, I highly doubt Sonic would underperform against Mario.

Ka-ching.


Speaking of such, if Knuckles is really destined to lose in the second round every year, he should face Mario in the second round next year in hopes of a Shadow-esque over-performance. That'd be cool, no matter how ultimately inaccurate.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

Knuckles MUST advance to the sweet 16 next year, if only for a chance to see his laughing sprite.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I was pretty ticked that Kirby made the Sweet Sixteen in a year where the sprite round was delayed.

Heck, he might've beaten Bowser with a sprite...
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Am I the only one who thinks Ceej purposely delayed the sprite round due to Vincent, Master Chief, and Tifa still being around?
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Eh, using polygons didn't bother him in 2003. Cloud, Sephy, and Aeris got theirs.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I still think that Zero may have underperformed slightly due to going up directly against Mario.

You'd have a good point, especially considering Link/Megaman... until you look at the other two matches he had this year. One underperformance may have explained itself, but three... no.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

I'm late, but here's what people said in the Oracle:

http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k5&type=match&match=23

I had a top 20 prediction with 56%! ohh yeah
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xyzzy

Wait, Xenobi picked Magus with 72%? XD
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

The idea of Knuckles ever being tripled by Magus amuses me. Not because of the outcome of it all, mind you, but because of the sheer buying of the hype.




Heh, to go off-topic for a second about MGS3...


*cues therealmnm (and anybody else) this has minor MGS3 spoilers*



...I really REALLY don't think The Sorrow's supposed to last nine minutes. Goes to show how I play my MGS games, he he he...served me right though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

Yeah, I killed freely my first game, too. I still don't think it took me quite THAT long though.

However, the mountains provide the best place for amusing ways to kill people, so I usually go a little crazy there.
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"My thoughts, they kept floating up, and then slipping through my fingers. Slipping away before I could pin them down with words." - Tidus

The idea of Knuckles being tripled by anyone is amusing.

A side note about today's poll... looks like smoking is the Pokémon of real life. Everyone does it, but no one admits it.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.