And for kicks, the percentages for Clinkeroth if you count the first six rounds of 2005 as victories:

Link: 96.00%
Cloud: 86.96%
Sephiroth: 85.71% (82.61% excluding the villains contest)

Also, if you exclude the villains contest, Bowser drops to 66.67%, and Ganondorf to 57.14%.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Snake is the only member of the Noble Nine NOT to have faced Clinkeroth... He needs to be initiated. <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Noble 9 intact yet again.

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Current Owned Status: Voltch

Ocelot's page kicks ass.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Dragon Warrior

69.23% - Bowser Koopa
66.67% - Ganondorf

Also, if you exclude the villains contest, Bowser drops to 66.67%, and Ganondorf to 57.14%.

Bowser > Ganon
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Voltch just gave me my 3rd Guru loss this year.

...those percentages have nothing to do with how good a character, just how easy their path is. Ganon might've done even better than Bowser had their paths been switched every contest.
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voltch may not pwn with English, but he can certainly pwn gurus.
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Indeed. Some projections:

2003: Bowser beats Magus, Yoshi gets 45%+ on Ganondorf, but the latter still wins.

Bowser +1, Ganondorf 0.

2004: Umm... does it really really matter?

Bowser +1, Ganondorf 0.

Spring 2005: Duh.

Bowser +1, Ganondorf 0.

Summer 2005: Bowser loses to Samus but more decently, Kirby/Ganondorf is anybody's guess.

Bowser +1, Ganondorf -0.5.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

...wait, why'd I say indeed?
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/new.html?typeid=23

Ask GameFAQ's is open for questions, in case any of you wanted to ask Ceej contest related questions.

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Current Owned Status: Voltch

Alright fellow elites, I got the most hilarious Top Ten list ready for the site, but I need to know how I can get it to be the one Ceej puts on the main page.

Someone please enlighten me :)
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers!

hmm..who WOULD you take in kirby vs ganon?
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currently playing: castlevania dos. lunar dragon song, advance wars ds, fire emblem 6, maximo 2

Very good question. Depends on the circumstances.

With 2005 circumstances, I'd tear my hair out before picking. 2006, though? Ganondorf.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

that's an easy Ganon pick for me.

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"Transience for ertyu user contest 2 champion!" ~ Some famous writer
"I believe Yeats wrote that after he penned The Second Coming." -icon

Ganondorf would take Kirby.


And Bowser/Ganon has always been a match we need to see.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
Crushed by Jman_gamerX8 as badly as Link beat Cloud.

Bowser would take down Ganondorf, easily.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I wouldn't be so sure. In an indirect comparison Bowser proabably does win easily, but certain factors may rear their ugly head in a straight-up encounter.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

I just can't see Ganondorf being more beloved than Bowser. He wouldn't win.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Ganon would beat Bowser easily. He's a far better character than Bowser is, and even if he's from a worse series, it's still teh more popular one on GF.

Why does Bowser get +1 for 2k4? Are you assuming he'd beat Link and lose to Yoshi?

And SC2k5 Magus is still stronger than SC2k3 Bowser, despite the likelihood that Magus has dropped since then.

Ganon would have the biggest advantage from switching in 2k5, where he would've beaten Kirby and might've beaten Snake.
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voltch may not pwn with English, but he can certainly pwn gurus.
Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

i havent seen one of these in a while.
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"When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious ****" - Doc
SilverKiller: Unpopular on GF since '02

I'm surprised at the Bowser > Ganon love. I'd pick Ganon without even a second's thought.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Dragon Warrior

He's a far better character than Bowser is,

That's entirely subjective, and I would vehemently disagree with you on that. Ganondorf is as lame as they come.

and even if he's from a worse series, it's still teh more popular one on GF.

We've seen a Mario game beat Zelda before. Besides, Ganondorf is too much of a leech. He's got more secondary popularity than anything else.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Looks like we might have to worry about Vivi's strength next year, too. Check it out:

http://sorasdomain.net/images/Scan%2040a.jpg
http://sorasdomain.net/images/Scan%2040c.jpg
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Give me Bowser over Ganon in 2k5, real easy. After TP it might be a bit more of a problem, but you've got to make Samus equal to Mario AND give Ganon a bunch of SFF in order to bring him above Bowser, and I have a hard time believing Samus could lay down that much SFF after being trounced 60/40 by Mario. Moreover, if she actually DID SFF Ganon that much, and the King of Evil is actually that susceptible to SFF (lol 2k4), then what's to say Bowser won't be the beneficiary of some SFF as well, no matter how small?

As far as I'm concerned, Ganondorf has been exposed. I had 100% faith in him beating Auron this year, and I would have probably put him over Snake in my bracket if I could have stomached it...but, no. If it weren't for TP I wouldn't have a shred of faith left in him at all. Everything he touches turns to crap. His 2k3 value has been exposed by both Tidus and Magus, and unless both characters fluked similar performances against him (followed by Magus fluking against Link), then you've got to acknowledge him under Bowser there. Look at Alucard, the only character he faced in 2k4, even adjusting Sora exposes him. Then compare Diablo Summer to Diablo Spring.

The only--and ONLY--value where Ganondorf has not been shown as utter crap is his Spring value against Sephiroth, and it's basically his own saving grace if and when he goes up against Snake, the only member of the Noble Nine that he will EVER have a chance in hell at beating. And even then I see shades of overperforming there, a match that was a finals match, perhaps the peak of Sephiroth anti-voting, and a match that is only given serious consideration due to, ironically, Bowser's stellar performance in 2k5.

Again, give me Bowser, real easy. Hell, give me Kirby, if only because even if his value is inflated due to rSFF or whatever you want to call it, he'd likely be able to do the same thing to Ganondorf. Until TP, Ganondorf has to go out and prove he's the real deal. Period.

With what appears to be the entry of every single FF character in existence in KHII, I think I'm going to be wary of Square's strength in general next year. >_<

Actually, the inclusion of Vivi is rather surprising considering Nomura didn't design him. Still, the black mage look is universal anyhow, so I could see why he'd make an exception here.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

It's for the best. Vivi is an appealing character. He'd draw more fans in. Pride be damned on that one.
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Voltch just gave me my 3rd Guru loss this year.

The only bad side effect (if you even want to call it that) of Twilight Princess's release is that it makes Bowser/Ganondorf tougher to call, and I may end up giving the nod to Bowser regardless.

On a similar note, I don't think Ganondorf will ever break the Noble 9. Solid Snake, which some people consider to be Ganon's only shot, will never lose that match. Snake's biggest weaknesses, at least in the opinion of this board, are undoubtedly his array of infamous Solid **** pics, character profiles so hideous that they automatically give his opponent an edge. I buy that, sure, but not against Ganondorf. For if Snake happens to be cursed with a pixelated green turd, he'll be going up against a pixelated fat pig. Poor guy.
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The October 2005 Guru Contest: Where voltch kicked my ass.
Rest in peace, Eddie.

today's top ten should have a new title:

"suckiest contest characters ever"

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"Transience for ertyu user contest 2 champion!" ~ Some famous writer
"I believe Yeats wrote that after he penned The Second Coming." -icon

XD

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I was busy watching porn with my parents so I wouldn't know. - snalien

Looks like we might have to worry about Vivi's strength next year, too. Check it out:

http://sorasdomain.net/images/Scan%2040a.jpg
http://sorasdomain.net/images/Scan%2040c.jpg

Good stuff. I've been saying for the longest that Vivi reeks of Kingdom Hearts.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

My board 8 activity is dwindling...
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

i just remembered this. isn't parasite cage a FFIX boss?if so then FFIX was introduced within KH right?
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Winner of the Top Ten Guru Contest!

Did the Xbox 360 launch today, or is it Tuesday it's launching?
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

Tuesday.
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The October 2005 Guru Contest: Where voltch kicked my ass.
Rest in peace, Eddie.

Aight, I had heard both and wasn't sure. I'll be interested to see the traffic-spike that GameFAQs will probably receive.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

just took a look at the FFXII demo screenshots and just realised ashe isn't a traditional FF brunette
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

I doubt it'll bring a huge spike in traffic, this just isn't friendly ground for Xbox owners.
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Voltch just gave me my 3rd Guru loss this year.

My board 8 activity is dwindling...

Me too, and I came on GameFAQs for these. :-(
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bump
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currently playing: castlevania dos. lunar dragon song, advance wars ds, fire emblem 6, maximo 2

man, the stats topic has really died..

I've been thinking - is it possible the stats topic has run its course, with the exception of during contest season? between a lot of questions getting resolved in sc2k5, the x-stats losing their perceived credibility and most of the potential matches having already been discussed, there's just not a lot left to talk about. I haven't seen anyone try to "prove" something with the x-stats in quite some time..

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Yeah, and I'm not listening to any more yahoos who want to give the X-Stats any day of light, either.
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Well, it's not like demographics change all over the place every year, and coming off what was perhaps the best year in gaming history, boosts were bound to happen all over the place. Heck, in 2003 following the X-sts puts you on the leaderboard 60 matches in. Those who turn a blind eye to them are no better off than those who aren't capable of making their own decisions.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

There was easily the least change in demographics from '03 to '04, however. It was just sad how accurately many matches were predicted...

Oh, and strictly following the x-stats wouldn't have gotten you in the leaderboard in SC2K3...Bomberman and Kirby were above Alucard, and Sonic was above Cloud. But, loosely interpreting them, yeah...

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

It's lucky most of us foresaw something was wrong with Mario/Cloud, and WDF. But when you look at it seriously, you had no choice but to draw that conclusion.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

I don't think using x-st would help us in 2k3. Almost half the characters were new.
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"I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." - President Bush

And yet the newbies that matter were pegged perfectly in terms of advancing in the tournament. Magus in the Sweet 16 (man, how lucky were we back then? This guy was supposed to contend for the championship), Vercetti went there as well, Kefka lost in the second round, so did Zero, so did Master Chief, so did KOS-MOS, etc. The only thing that was a real train wreck in 2003 was Cloud beating Link.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

...wait, I forgot about the evil Mario side characters. How could I forget THAT?
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Yeah, we've argued all sorts of thing SO MANY TIMES! All that's left, for the most part, is Solid/Sora SFF...and I don't feel like that's worth our time.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano in 2k6.
Why? Transience was nice enough to point out 2k5 was too late for him.

It's not just this topic though... It's the board as a whole. At least to me. <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."