Anyway, this is all speculative. We really have no idea about the range of MGS villain strength, sans a marred match with Ocelot in the summer.
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"Let's mosey"
Proud member of the Jay Solano Army

Going by the assumption that Frog 2k5 = Liquid 2k5, Liquid is still underrated by the Villains Contest. At least, as long as you adjust Samus reasonably.

i wonder who is the strongest MGS women sniper wolf?the boss?meryl? or eva? hell my fav is para-medic
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

Gimme Meryl, though The Boss or Sniper Wolf stands a shot.

Rose can join the ranks of Solano for all I care though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

The Boss stands a decent shot at challenging Meryl now, but after MGS4 it'll be no contest for Meryl.

Mei Ling for the win!
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

me and para-medic share the same love for classic movies
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

Nastasha and her amazing accent own any of the other mgs females listed.

And as for potential strength newcomers:
Princess Peach/C. Falcon could both be decent enough.
erm..um...
we need a new successful series not based on sports or a movie?

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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~ Old Klingon Proverb
Crushed by Jman_gamerX8 as badly as Link beat Cloud.

Personally I think all MGS characters not named Ocelot or have Snake in their name would perform at around Big Boss' level.
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18 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld battle, 18 have failed. (see quote for list)

So I've finally decided to get off my lazy ass and start updating my site. First I'll update the bios currently there, then I'll add in the characters that are missing. Hopefully I'll have enough free time to get all the missing bios in there before the next contest starts.

I also need to update those lists I have posted over on RPGDL, though that should only take around a week.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

i wonder how powerful mewtwo would prove to be.
blue dragon may produce a character at kratos level and the new perfect dark i suppose will boost joanna dark but i can't see much else in terms of new strength
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Nominate CATS,Jay Solano,Weedle and Ifnkovhgroghprm for sc2k6

Mewtwo will likely be very weak. Much stronger than Pikachu, but still very weak.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

I suspect Max Payne's level, give or take a lil'. I doubt Mewtwo'd be much stronger now than Pikachu ever was, and Pika wasn't fodder-killer by any means.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

Mewtwo? I think he'd hover around the VFL.
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The DL certainly isn't losing its religion, as Maester Seymour Guado and Seraph Lamington duel. Whose faith is stronger? Find out at www.rpgdl.com!

I trust you mean 2k3/4 Vyse?
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"transience for ertyu contest 2 champion!" -ExThaNemesis

Hmm. Considering Pikachu was behind double SFF in 2003 and Mario/Cloud 2002, I'm thinking he should already be around TLFKATVFL. Would Mewtwo do better? How am I supposed to know? Well, he has more appeal among non-Pokémon fans, that's for certain.
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

My best guess for Pikachu is around 17%. I'm not sure if Mewtwo could be significantly stronger than that.
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pi

So...would anybody take Pikachu over Crash Bandicoot? He fared better against Cloud than Crash did against Sephy, but...54% against PaRappa...I don't know.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Pikachu vs. Crash? I'd abstain. :)

I have no idea who I'd pick.

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platform characters get no contest respect. (except mario)
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currently playing: castlevania dos. lunar dragon song, advance wars ds, fire emblem 6, maximo 2

Crash is buried deep underground. Pikachu, while he does garner some hate, he'll garner plenty of the kiddy votes (who've probably never played a single Crash game anyways and are thus not wont to like him), and who knows, he might even take a bite out of the SSBM crowd. Heck, he's one of my favorites in SSBM - who doesn't love taunting the enemies with an endlessly annoying string of "Pika, Pika!!"s? I'd give Pikachu the win with 54%+.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

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Wrong topic...

...so, to make up for that: since we're talkin' about Pokemon, where would everyone think Ash would land? I've seriously never heard any talks of rallying or nominating him, nor have I ever heard debates over his strength.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

I'd take Pikachu over him, I know that much.

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xyzzy

Ash? I think he'd face the wrath of the show's overexposure worse than Pika.
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Nominate Jay Solano & Ifnkovhgroghprm for SC2K6!
This space reserved for next Guru winner, unless it is moi.

Oh, and Crash let MASTER CHIEF blow him out. That takes some serious hate.
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Nominate Jay Solano & Ifnkovhgroghprm for SC2K6!
This space reserved for next Guru winner, unless it is moi.

I'm unsure if Ash is the main character of Red/Blue/Yellow. I personally think the main character in the game was the player (you could also call him Red), and Ash was a different version of that character.

I was of the opinion that the Red in GSC is the main guy in RBY. It certainly seems that way.

Regardless, Ash would absolutely suck it up big-time. Even Pokemon fans (such as myself) hate Ash.
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Ifnkovhgroghprm, Tron Bonne, Weedle, Psycho Mantis

Well, I'd like to think this is no coincidence Ash and Gary are the default names. Besides, isn't Gary Oak's grandson in the cartoon as well?
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Q: Why was Chris Benoit kicked out of the gas station?
A: Because he was carrying matches.

Ash won't do well, first the show would kill him worse than Pikachu and second even though you can choose him as a name I think most people used their own name or made up something funny.
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18 have challenged Nintendo in the handheld battle, 18 have failed. (see quote for list)

Okay, enough freaking Pokemon. How do you guys see Red XIII and Cid Highwind standing (because I will get at least one of them in)?
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"Let's mosey"
Proud member of the Jay Solano Army

Red would beat Cid, neither of which I can see over Aeris, Tifa, or Vincent level. I'd guess him at...Tidus level? Maybe? Doesn't really matter, too many FFVII characters in this thing. If we have to have another one I'd want it to be Barret, but I'd rather leave them all alone.

Red XIII > Cid, I would think, though Cid would get my vote. Tidus level or maybe a lil' higher sounds good though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

Alright, here goes...

Final Fantasy Characters:

Cloud > Sephiroth >>> Vincent >= Squall > Red XIII > Auron >= Tifa >= Cid > Aeris > Tidus > Ramza > Rikku > Yuna >>> Zidane > Cecil >= Terra

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"Let's mosey"
Proud member of the Jay Solano Army

Red XIII would not beat Auron, and Cid would not beat Aeris. Those are two things I can guarantee you of.

The current updating effort is up to... Kefka, I believe.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Madden 94, Dragon Warrior

Nice work, Ulti. Just pickin' at one thing:

The funniest thing of all is that no one has ever broken 60% on Gordon. Not once.

I personally find it more amusing that his worst loss is against Tina Armstrong, but that's just me.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

He has a point about Tina.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

I find it funny that every opponent Gordon has faced has a common first & last name...Tina Armstrong, Max Payne, Sam Fisher, Leon Kennedy...I call generic name rSFF.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

It's possible. So that means Gordon faces...Carl Johnson next year? Lloyd Irving?
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Tommy Vercetti?
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

Eh, Vercetti isn't a generic name.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Mario Mario.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Ah, but Tommy certainly is. Wasn't sure if it'd make up for it or not...

...plus, it has potential to be a good match.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

Is the fact that the winners have been posted old news? I just noticed (thanks to a topic on this board reminding me to look):

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10.html
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There is only one war of the brood!

my low tiebreaker hurt me :(

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XD mapes woulda won the contest
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So, if someone says "Who are The Patriots?" people will be able to answer "Oakland"? ~paperwarrior
Jman_gamerX8 + me + Guru Contest = PWNED!

Whoa! Congrats to the two Stats Topic representatives: Leonhart and transcience!

And HUGE props to maplejet for having the best entry of them all!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

holy crap, mapes had 7 -and- nailed the tiebreaker?

sick. why isn't he eligible?

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and is that solarshadow I see?!

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For those too lazy to check, here are all of the final rankings (nope. no Top 50 this time):

The contest winners, from first to tenth, were:

1. LinktheAdept (Score 11, Tiebreaker 25)
2. ImpactPlayer (Score 11, Tiebreaker 16)
3. Procyon_A (Score 12, Tiebreaker 25)
4. CountCrazy007 (Score 12, Tiebreaker 54)
5. LeonhartForever (Score 13, Tiebreaker 24)
6. ccbfan (Score 14, Tiebreaker 19)
7. The_Sub (Score 14, Tiebreaker 30)
8. transience (Score 14, Tiebreaker 13)
9. Ludwig_Von_2 (Score 14, Tiebreaker 44)
10. Silverwarp (Score 14, Tiebreaker 56)

The top five entries for fun were:

1. maplejet (7/24)
2. Stationery__Man (11/27)
3. LancelotBT (13/39)
4. solar_shadow (14/22)
5. BadBFG (14/9)

The full top 100 games of all time can be found here, and Final Fantasy VII was selected by a full 24% of entries as the top game.

Once again, congrats to all Board 8 regulars, both past (solarshadow!!!) and present!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.