Chrono Trigger is in no way "niche". This site's tastes are not as unusual as some people think - look at how Chrono Trigger did in the IGN readers' top 99 (4th) or how it scores on gamerankings. Gamers know about Chrono Trigger, and if they like RPGs, they've probably played it.
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i reckon that only gamers who've been playing for about 5 years or more have ever heard of chrono trigger.cause all the casuals who've been playing EA games for 3 years never heard of it
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Yes, the original SNES cartridge 17.53% 579
Yes, the PlayStation remake 16.2% 535
Yes, both versions 10.6% 350
No, but I've played it before 29.19% 964
No, and I've never even played it 26.47% 874
TOTAL VOTES 3302

why hello there, roms!


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what if you've played it on your cousins console?
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Chrono Trigger is in no way "niche". This site's tastes are not as unusual as some people think - look at how Chrono Trigger did in the IGN readers' top 99 (4th) or how it scores on gamerankings. Gamers know about Chrono Trigger, and if they like RPGs, they've probably played it.

CT is cult, it was never even released in Europe. It's popular on Gamefaqs and some other hardcore video gaming sites. That's it.
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CT is cult, it was never even released in Europe. It's popular on Gamefaqs and some other hardcore video gaming sites. That's it.


I disagree, I live in Sweden and most of my gaming friends have played Chrono Trigger. At least those who like RPGS.

Well, me and my friends have played it and we all agree that it's average at best.

I don't understand how anyone could class that above something in the same era like FF6.

How CT doesn't have the same popularity on GF like Skies of Arcadia or Tales of Symphonia baffles me.

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CT is square at it's best plus it's got the DBZ factor
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Chrono Trigger, whee. Excellent choice, but a little bit on the predictable side this contest.

Oh, and lol emulation. Looks like we were right all along.
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I had CT 4th,and LTTP 3rd.Not bad eh?
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This is most likely the only instance on which I've ever agreed with Smurf, but I think you're giving it way too much credit by calling it "average at best."

And yeah, I was one of the people who emulated it after the spring contest.
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How CT doesn't have the same popularity on GF like Skies of Arcadia or Tales of Symphonia baffles me.

Well, it sold a lot more copies. ~800,000 in North America, IIRC, and over 2 million in Japan. It was the second best-selling RPG until FFVII, behind SMRPG's 2 million in North America.
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i wonderr if they ever made a chrono trigger cartoon. i mean they did a mario cartoon and a megaman cartoon. it just sounds like something they would do.sometimes it becomes as succesfull as pokemon and bomberman
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There is an anime called Chrono Trigger but it's nothing about CT, the game.

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i wonderr if they ever made a chrono trigger cartoon. i mean they did a mario cartoon and a megaman cartoon. it just sounds like something they would do.sometimes it becomes as succesfull as pokemon and bomberman

I'm currently "acquiring" the Chrono Trigger OVA, but I'm not sure exactly what it is.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.

CT is definitely niche, but not cult. The average Halo/GTA mainstream gamer hasn't heard of it, I guarantee you that.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

CT is definitely niche, but not cult. The average Halo/GTA mainstream gamer hasn't heard of it, I guarantee you that.

There are more than 80 million PS2s out there, and probably fewer than 20 million people with a GTA. Who are these other 60 million people? Do we have 20 million mainstream gamers, and the other 60 million are cult?
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I think today's poll only impresses me more and more about Chrono Trigger's strength. 30% have never even played it, and another 30% don't even own a copy of it?

That speaks of hardcore fans right there.
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Also, it might speak more of why Crono is so far ahead of Frog and Magus. As I've said many times before, I had never heard of Frog or Magus until I played the game, but I knew full well who Crono was and what Chrono Trigger was.
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I'm waitin' until the after-school vote before I say much about the poll...I do find it somewhat awkward that CT is more well-known than FF3/6 here though (not that it's more popular so much as just more played).
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Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

yeah, in regards to the poll I'm going by how many have played it (at the moment, 70%), not how many own it. CT was hella rare for a number of years, plus it gets a lot of support via roms. I am rather impressed that that many have played it, as I thought it might be closer to 60, 65%.

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At noon GameFAQs-time:
Yes, the original SNES cartridge 15.77% 5303
Yes, the PlayStation remake 16.78% 5644
Yes, both versions 9.64% 3241
No, but I've played it before 28.26% 9505
No, and I've never even played it 29.55% 9936
TOTAL VOTES 33629

If it's like FF3/6 was, expect "No, and I've never even played it" to gain around 3% and the rest drop a lil'.
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Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

old square games just don't quite cut in terms of number of people who plyed said game
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CT will lose some ground here, but near 70% playership is increadibly high. Not all old Square games are that bad off, though I'm starting to reconsider the fact that I said FF6 would win if FF7 wasn't in a Favorite FF poll. I'm sure Kefka would still be the number one villain with Seph gone, but I have a feeling FF10 might be able to overcome FF6 due to more FF7 fans going forward for their next favorite than backwards.
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old square games just don't quite cut in terms of number of people who plyed said game

WTF? 70% is a very large portion of the site.
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CT will lose some ground here, but near 70% playership is increadibly high. Not all old Square games are that bad off, though I'm starting to reconsider the fact that I said FF6 would win if FF7 wasn't in a Favorite FF poll. I'm sure Kefka would still be the number one villain with Seph gone, but I have a feeling FF10 might be able to overcome FF6 due to more FF7 fans going forward for their next favorite than backwards.

I second this idea, and is why I put FF10 over FF6. I ended up being wrong, but I don't think it's by much.

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Played Super Mario Bros. 3: 94.30%
Played Link to the Past: 84.50%
Played Metal Gear Solid: 72.39%
Owned Super Smash Bros. Melee: 71.59%
Played Chrono Trigger: 70.31%
Played Final Fantasy VI: 66.73%
Owned GoldenEye 007: 61.53%
Owned Link to the Past: 60.28%
Owned Halo: Combat Evolved: 47.98%
Owned Final Fantasy VI: 44.47%
Owned Chrono Trigger: 42.05%

I think it's interesting to note that more people owned FFVI than CT, and how widely owned SSBM is.

If we say "played - owned = emulated" or "No, but I've played it before = emulated" (which isn't true, I know, but it's probably pretty close), then:

Emulated Chrono Trigger: 28.26%
Emulated Link to the Past: 24.22%
Emulated Final Fantasy VI: 22.26%

That provides proof for our thinking that Crono continually increased from 2k2 to 2k4 because of emulation.
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I'm sure Kefka would still be the number one villain with Seph gone, but I have a feeling FF10 might be able to overcome FF6 due to more FF7 fans going forward for their next favorite than backwards.

I doubt it. Everyone who's played FFVI has played FFVII too, but there are plenty of people who started long after FFVII came out.
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I'm not saying that no one will pick 6 with 7 missing, far from it in fact, I'm just saying that there will be more that go forward than backwards and 10 is close enough to 6 now that it'd likely make the difference with 7 gone. There are probably more FF players that played 8-10 first then went back and played 7 than the number who played 6 then 7.
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Isn't there a poll that asks which FF game you played first, or am I just imagining things?

If there isn't, there needs to be.
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I think there was, but I can't imagine how long ago that was.
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Any chance I could win a prize, guys? I have fourteen points and only missed Goldeneye (I had SM64 at #7)...

...I feel pretty good (knockin' on wood) about making a Top Fifty list if there's one for this, but prize-worthy is a whole 'nother thing.
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Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

I don't think anyone missing a game is winning a prize. out of likely 10,000+ entries, I imagine at least ten got the games right.

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Yeah, if you missed a game, you probably won't be winning. I'm sure there were at least a few lucky enough to get all of the games.
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I wouldn't be entirely sure about that. If we assume that there's 20 games that could possibly make the list, then there's 184,756 ways to pick 10 of them, and that's without considering order (over half a trillion with order). However, if we say that there's 20 games that could make the list, but 6 of them are certain, then there's 24,024 ways to pick those 6 and 4 out of the remaining 14. Which is a significantly smaller number, but, again, no order. And there's the issue that picking a game to finish 8th and it actually finishes 11th is better than picking FFVI to finish 6th, for example. I think you can miss a game and still have a good shot of winning prizes.
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Yeah, anyone who put Goldeneye on their list have a chance to win it, as the other games weren't too hard to figure out. I'm sure there's a fan of Goldeneye that likes Halo as well. Everything else would probably fall into place on SOMEONE'S list...
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Well Har, we know you can't take the $400, as BadBFG is going to finish 4 points ahead of you no matter what happens from here out. Mario 64 taking 11th would give you a score of 18... I'd say that should be Top 50 good, but I have a hard time seeing it win any prizes.

Speaking of people who can still win, here's the full list of potential winners we have left, from the Guru topic. A big thanks to KM for figuring this out for us.


Final Contenders
BadBFG : 9 points - Super Mario 64 in 8th
Sephirot : 9 points - GTA:VC in 8th
voltch : 11 points - GTA:SA in 8th
Kaxon : 14 points - Starcraft in 9th
Exp Content : 18 points - Tetris in 10th

King Morgoth : 5 points - Starcraft in 8th, Super Mario 64 in 10th
transience : 5 points - Super Mario 64 in 7th, Final Fantasy X in 9th
futuresuperstar : 7 points - Super Mario World in 5th, Starcraft in 10th
SlurpyFignewton : 7 points - Final Fantasy Tactics in 9th, Super Metroid in 10th
Harmonica : 8 points - Starcraft in 8th, Super Metroid in 9th
Ngamer : 8 points - Super Mario 64 in 9th, Final Fantasy VIII in 10th

darkvengence : 0 point - Starcraft in 7th, FFVIII in 8th, FFX in 9th
Lagoona : 1 point - SMW in 7th, Starcraft in 8th, Wow in 10th
GrapeFruit : 2 points - Starcraft in 7th, FFX in 8th, Wind Waker in 9th
Janus : 7 points - FFX in 8th, KH in 9th, Metroid Prime in 10th
Black Turtle : 14 points - FFX in 7th, SMW in 8th, Super Metroid in 9th

cavedog : 6 points - FFX in 6th, SMW in 8th, KH in 9th, WoW in 10th

That's 16 out of 58 who are still alive heading into the revealing of the Top 100.


And I think the overall winner could easily be someone who didn't nail the entire Top Ten. As a matter of fact, I think it probably will be a non-perfect. GE and MGS making the Top Ten turns the still-Perfect group into the same kind of "perfect fools" who we saw listed atop the rankings after Master Hand took out Kuja. They went 10/10 on getting the right games in, so good for them, but they're likely to have messed up the ordering of those games something awful. I think the overall winner will be a guy who picked a sensible, well-reasoned Top Ten with no upsets, and who replaced FF6 at 10th in his lineup with something like a Mario 64. So if Mario 64 comes 11th, he takes a 1 point hit that the rest of his sensible, by-the-numbers list more than makes up for.

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Everyone is too hung up about what game(s) they missed... "I have X points, having only missed GE" "I have Y right now, all I missed was GE and MGS." Goldeneye and Metal Gear Solid are not going to to anything to determine your score from here out; what you ought to be saying is "I have X points, having taken Mario 64" or "I'm at Y, but picked SC and FFX."

And as a demonstration, here's what I think this season's winning entry is going to look like:

0 1 FF7
0 2 Ocarina
0 3 CT
1 4 Mario 3
1 5 LttP
0 6 Melee
2 7 Halo
2 8 FF6
1 9 MGS
1 10 Mario 64

Perfect Top Three, since that wasn't too hard, +2 for the flop of Mario 3 and LttP (which was pretty unexpected), nailed Melee, +2 for Halo a little high, +2 because FF6 didn't live up to expectations (again, surprising), +1 for the MGS overperformance, and a final +1 is all it costs him for having the 11th best game in his listing. That comes to a total of 8 pts, which seems to me a reasonable #1 score.

Keep in mind that the last time we had a Contest of this size, using this same scoring method, predicting Top Ten games, the overall winner had a score of 11, and you only needed 16 or under to make the Top Five.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/c0212.html

Year before that, the winning score was 21. 2000 winner had 20, and in '99, 22 or under won you the top prize.

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Oh, well that settles it, we WILL have a full top 100 when this is over.

The thing is, why were games from 2001 even allowed in that one?
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Since it was the games that got the most hits, I assume he left them in there due to the distinct advantage newer games get.
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Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

yeah, that's simply which FAQs got the most hits. no reason to discriminate by age.

I'm hoping that if we get a full top 100 list (I'm not convinced until I see one) that we get how many points each game got, too. I'd be curious to see how close games were in proximity to each other.
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Do you own a copy of Chrono Trigger?

At noon GameFAQs-time:
Yes, the original SNES cartridge 15.77% 5303
Yes, the PlayStation remake 16.78% 5644
Yes, both versions 9.64% 3241
No, but I've played it before 28.26% 9505
No, and I've never even played it 29.55% 9936
TOTAL VOTES 33629

At 6:30 PM GameFAQs-time:
Yes, the original SNES cartridge 15.34% 9117 (-.43)
Yes, the PlayStation remake 16.39% 9741 (-.39)
Yes, both versions 8.99% 5341 (-.65)
No, but I've played it before 27.29% 16221 (-.97)
No, and I've never even played it 31.99% 19010 (+2.44)
TOTAL VOTES 59430

Between noon and 6:30 GameFAQs-time:
Yes, the original SNES cartridge 14.78% 3814
Yes, the PlayStation remake 15.88% 4097
Yes, both versions 8.14% 2100
No, but I've played it before 26.03% 6716
No, and I've never even played it 35.17% 9074
TOTAL VOTES 25801


Surprise, surprise; the after-school vote wasn't kind to CT much like it usually wasn't in the Game Contest as well as its characters. It's also a sign of older games not being treated so nicely, so I won't go heavy into that. This poll also took a very similar pattern to the FF3/6 poll a week ago, so let's compare the two here since they had the exact same question and options. Note that the FF3/6 numbers are what the poll finished with; today's poll is still live and has 5 1/2 hours left:

Yes, the original SNES cartridge || 15.34 - 14.06 = 1.18, CT
Yes, the PlayStation remake || 18.68 - 16.39 = 2.29, FF3/6
Yes, both versions || 11.73 - 8.99 = 2.74, FF3/6
No, but I've played it before || 27.29 - 22.26 = 5.03, CT
No, and I've never even played it || 33.27 - 31.99 = 1.28, FF3/6 (advantage goes to CT, FYI)

I take this as a sign of FF7 boosting its Final Fantasy label moreso than RPGs in general, due to seeing FF3/6 have about 5% more people who have its remake than CT yet be beaten by CT in owning the original cartridge. Seeing CT beat some major ass in "No, but I've played it before" is almost-certainly a sign that's the option for rom-players as well as a sign that rom-players play a huge part in its popularity. CT's also got the advantage in being more played than FF3/6. Interesting stuff.
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One thing I just noticed...Halo got its **** smoked as far as vote-totals go. It got 60,831 votes in its poll, and next-lowest MGS had 64,808 votes...keep in mind this was the next day (though it was also a Saturday). Adding to it the huge number of 52% that weren't interested in Halo (combined the bottom two options), and I would bet Halo was undoubtedly in the Top Five as far as games listed as #1 on their favorite lists.

Funn though, really; for the vote totals here bombing even after improved Xbox ownership and Halo 2 being released, it certainly had THE highest vote-total by a good margin in the one match it had in the Game Contest last spring.....



Heh, turned out Saturdays are great for traffic.
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let's play a game.. predict 11-20!

11. SM64
12. FF10
13. SM
14. FF8
15. SMW
16. KH
17. GTA:SA
18. Zelda: WW
19. GTA:VC
20. Zelda 1

I'm probably forgetting some games..

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"MERE TYPOS WILL NOT STOP ME." -ertyu001

..like Starcraft.. though it's probably around 16 or 17.

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xyzzy
"MERE TYPOS WILL NOT STOP ME." -ertyu001

11. SM64
12. FF10
13. GTA:SA
14. Starcraft
15. SMW
16. MP
17. KH
18. SM
19. LoZ:WW
20. Diablo 2

A quick breezing guess by me.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.

Super Mario 64 won't be 11th. Take that to the bank.
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Here's something I though you guys might find interesting. I've gone through the Top 10 list (assuming the last two are OoT and FFVII) and calculated the average GameFAQs review scores for each of them, and reorganized them into a new Top 10 based on a system that I'll explain below.

First, the average review scores (the numbers in parantheses are the number of reviews for each game):

10. Final Fantasy VI- 9.48 (52)
9. Halo- 9.14 (71)
8. Metal Gear Solid- 8.97 (62)
7. Goldeneye 007- 9.72 (53)
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee- 9.51 (74)
5. Super Mario Bros. 3- 9.69 (51)
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past- 9.37 (49)
3. Chrono Trigger- 9.57 (63)
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time- 9.00 (77)
1. Final Fantasy VII- 8.93 (86)

Now, for the adjusted Top 10. The point values here were calculated by multiplying a game's average score by its number of reviews. This is the fairest way to determine the best-reviewed game.

1. Final Fantasy VII- 767.98
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee- 703.74
3. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time- 693.00
4. Halo- 648.94
5. Chrono Trigger- 602.91
6. Metal Gear Solid- 556.14
7. Goldeneye 007- 515.16
8. Super Mario Bros. 3- 494.19
9. Final Fantasy VI- 492.96
10. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past- 459.13

Note that this isn't the definitive list of top-rated GameFAQs games. There are a fair number of other games that didn't make it onto the Top 10 but would still outrank some of the entries on the list.
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It's like Metal Gear Solid and Goldeneye can't escape from each other.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? Good question...just do it and nobody gets hurt.