Meh, the problem with the stats wasn't the top 5. Nobody really doubted that they were the five strongest.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

hey, Xenogears is a top 5 game to me. I like it over every game that made the Game Contest with the possible exception of Super Metroid.

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xyzzy

Tell that to all the people who had SSBM in there. And if I recall, having the order of FF7/OoT/CT was very common (about half of the BOP entries), but following it right up with LttP ahead of SMB3 afterwards was rare as hell.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I'm talking about the games contest itself, not this one.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Oh, okay. Well, there was a fairly large fraction of the board (a big minority, if you will) that had either FF6 or Super Metroid over LttP.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I'm talking more after the fact, once the stats were finally released. Nobody really felt they were legit, but nobody really doubted the top 5 really were the five strongest either. The problems come once you get past that.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

I'm not sold on SMB3 being among the five strongest still, but let's not get into that can of worms again.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Yeah, we've overrated SSBM enough for this contest.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 11/2/2005 12:44:45 AM | #206
I'm talking more after the fact, once the stats were finally released. Nobody really felt they were legit, but nobody really doubted the top 5 really were the five strongest either. The problems come once you get past that.

Hence why I stayed the hell away from Starcraft, Halo and Wind Waker on my entry. I shouldn't have, in retrospect... picking that trio would've been a better idea than FF10 + GTA:SA + KH.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I think we all agree that the three strongest games in a contest setting are CT, OOT and FF7, with the only argument being CT. after that, there's considerable debate between SSBM, FF6, LTTP and Mario 3, though the consensus seems to put FF6 seventh.


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xyzzy

Yeah... I mean, FF6 was a stone's throw away from LttP and SMB3, but those two likely advanced further ahead since then (maybe they even turboed past Chrono Trigger, who knows), and it has to look out for SSBM as well. Man, FF6/SSBM... that's my worst nightmare.

Makes me think... if there were to be a game contest next summer, if LttP passed ahead of CT, and depending on what TP is worth, there would be a solid chance of three Zelda games in the top 4. Scary, isn't it?
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

Reminds me of the Spring Contest itself, where everyone was fearsome of the all-Zelda Final Four.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Hehe, yeah. I'm still torn on whether I would've liked to see it or not.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I'm glad it didn't. I'm not as big into the Zelda series as most are here.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

Heh, I had FF7 beating every LoZ game except the original for my bracket.

I don't think LoZ:TP would pass in a matter of months (when's it suppose to be released, anyways?) what took SSBM over two years to do as far as contest strength is concerned. On the other hand though, one could say we saw what LoZ:WW did in a year so why couldn't LoZ:TP do better than that while newer...

...I dunno, LoZ:TP worries me though.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Same here, sort of. It's just two games I really dig. The rest, not so much. But still, a clean sweep... all the bloody whining on the board... I could've opened a virtual popcorn stall and become rich quick.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I don't think Twilight Princess will be released on time if we had a Games Contest next Spring anyway.
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Yuna: "Stay with me until the end. Please."
Tidus: "Not until the end. Always."

But I'm talking summer here. I just don't think we can sustain two contests per year.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

LoZ:WW losing to Starcraft was my least favorite LoZ loss; between it probably being my favorite LoZ game and Starcraft only beating CT in terms of games I like the least that beat a LoZ game, I remember not waking up happy that next morning, heh.

With all these LoZ's and LoZ:TP being talked about, I really hope they don't screw it up. If they'd make it like LoZ:OoT with more big moments like LoZ:WW or make it like LoZ:WW with more difficulty, they are set for success. Anything after that would only be added sugar to the cereal.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

We're sustaining three this year, heh.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Man, FF6/SSBM... that's my worst nightmare.

Agreed, especially if by some miracle the FF VI GBA port came out before the match.
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I don't think anybody pointed it out, but SSBM made #6 on the Top Ten FAQ Pages (jumped from #23).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

it very easily could. it takes Square no time at all to port those games.

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xyzzy

predictions today were pretty expected:

Link to the Past - 42
Chrono Trigger - 22
Starcraft - 13
Super Mario 64 - 10
Final Fantasy X - 5
Super Metroid - 5
Ocarina of Time - 4
Final Fantasy VII - 3
Sonic 2 - 3

as expected, LTTP is the overwhelming favourite today, with CT the only game even close. if CT is #4, I've got OOT at #1 and FF7 at #2; if LTTP is #4, I'm goin' with the chalk.

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xyzzy

Nah, unless it's FF7 itself in an hour, I've still got faith in it being #1. If it's CT though, then I'm gonna lose faith in LoZ:LttP again; I know there's alot of arguing about which LoZ game is better and I know they're both two of the five strongest games here, but I don't buy them coming in side-by-side. Color me crazy...then again though, my guess after LoZ:LttP -- SM64 -- doesn't any better a chance of finishing two spots ahead of SMB3.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

my thoughts on FF7 at #2: FF6 finished lower than the consensus expected, 007 higher. LTTP is going to finish higher as well, assuming it makes the list. that's one strike against Square and two for Nintendo. I didn't think there was a lot of separation between OOT and FF7 in the first place, so I really wouldn't be too amazed.

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xyzzy

Color me crazy...then again though, my guess after LoZ:LttP -- SM64 -- doesn't any better a chance of finishing two spots ahead of SMB3.

Which leaves...

*insert Super Metroid item found MIDI here*

Now that would be crazy.
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pi

FF:AC probably did something though, too. While it may or may not amount to much, that's THAT much more goin' against LoZ:OoT.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

I can agree with that, but this is also a different population. FF7 isn't automatically #1 in my mind on the boards.

by the way, did you see ExTha cowardly vote for himself in an attempt to beat me in ertyu's contest? I trust you'll be usin' that in your future trash talk.

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xyzzy

I don't worry about what jabronies do to boost their own ego. =P
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

this comin' from the man running the smear campaign, complete with photoshopped images and trash talkin'.

not that I don't approve..

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xyzzy

I said about what the jabronies do, not the jabronies themselves, heh.

Besides, that was all MSPaint. Fear.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

MSPaint? damn, you're more hardcore than I thought.

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xyzzy

..so, 5.7% haven't played Mario 3, huh? this got me thinking about what the most played game is. here's what I came up with:

1. Tetris
2. Pac-Man
3. SMB3
4. Street Fighter 2
5. some version of Pokemon

did I miss anything?

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xyzzy

That wasn't the hard part at all; in fact, a rom glitch made it easier for me. The hard part was fighting around on that game until I found the appropriate cut-scene I wanted (which is why that was the Lightweight Title on the shoulder, heh).
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

I'd say Pong gets on that list somewhere and Pokemon misses it...I would think SF2 probably misses too.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

I dunno, how many pure versions of Pong are there to play? I suppose Arkanoid or Breakout, but I doubt everyone has played those games.
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xyzzy

LTTP is #4

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xyzzy

GODDAMMIT.
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Jman_gamerX8 has owned us with his sexy plumber bracket.

*sigh* Well, at least the question is solved now.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

LttP at #4. The rest of the list is cookie-cutter, methinks, as I can't see FF7, OoT, and CT deviating from those main three spots.

Good thing that 6 seed was a fluke *wipes sweat from brow*.

yeah, how horribly anticlimactic.
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xyzzy

Hey, my favorite game made the list. Huzzah!
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pi

I am still shocked--SHOCKED--that people still have faith in games besides those, however, particularly in Starcraft. Do people just have that much trouble letting go?

Hrmph.

CT will be snubbed and FFX will be #3. BOOK IT.

...I need sleep.
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Jman_gamerX8 has owned us with his sexy plumber bracket.

I think people got boned so bad by Starcraft last year that they're absolutely convinced that it has to make the list.
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xyzzy

IT'S A LINK TO THE PAST.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

ooh, we get to see how much impact the GBA version had today. unfortunately though, it doesn't ask which version you played, just which you own. I imagine a lot of people have sold/lost their SNES copies.
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xyzzy

Played Final Fantasy VI: 66.73%
Owned Halo: Combat Evolved: 47.98%
Played Metal Gear Solid: 72.39%
Owned GoldenEye 007: 61.53%
Owned Super Smash Bros. Melee: 71.59%
Played Super Mario Bros. 3: 94.30%

I wonder if LttP can stay over 75%?
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pi

Eh, I got hurt pretty bad by it, but when (or if) there is another Games Contest, I won't go overestimating it like crazy. If anything, I think Starcraft will lose a lot of the novelty and luster that made it what it was in SpC2k4 and cause it to weaken. Call it a Frog 2k5 redux.