And strangely enough, I might only have 1 game from my favorites list actually make the top 10 (Mario 3) unless FFX does take #5 tomorrow.
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"What's going to happen to this Planet?"
"Who knows...That's up to you, I guess."

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Hmm, might want to delete that, some could actually see it as offensive. Either way, hopefully you got my point. I'm getting used to entries with unhealthy amounts of love on this board bombing hard.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I no longer have faith in LoZ:LttP making the list. So far, seeding has told most of the story here, and FF3/6 (which was four seeds ahead of LoZ:LttP) got #10. We haven't seen SMW or SM, and we know CT is due somewhere in the Top Five as well as FF7 and LoZ:OoT. I'm also not thinkin' that LoZ:LttP is close enough in popularity to LoZ:OoT for it to also make the Top Five.

If nothing else, look at today; it's THE game of our generation (and especially Gamecube) as far as GameFAQs goes, a two-seed from 2004 and won arguably the most stacked division ever (that or West-2002), and currently packaged with Gamecubes...then, when you look at the poll, over HALF of the people here have played it with three other people simultaneously (and, if the after-school vote treats SSBM like it did in contests before, it's only goin' to go up), and have likely played with more people than just those three. It was also easily decided by the board as the most favored game...

...and it missed the Top Five. With that much going for it and still falling just short of the Top Five, I don't see the much older lower-seeded LoZ:LttP game that was never packaged with a system and battling with other LoZ games getting above it. It would also mean that it'd have to be a more casual favorite than SSBM was, which I'm not sold on yet. The only advantage it has over SSBM is a higher x-stat value, and we're seeing this list hang the x-stats out to dry.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Well, if LttP isn't on the list, then what takes its place? Tetris? The original Zelda? Super Metroid? Final Fantasy X?
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"What's going to happen to this Planet?"
"Who knows...That's up to you, I guess."

That, I don't know; instinct and bias still wanna say SM64, but it's not like I've got much faith in it either. All I know is I feel reasonable and just in believin' we won't have the entire Super Seven, thanks to LoZ:LttP.

Don't book it, of course, but...there's good reason here.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

That, I don't know; instinct and bias still wanna say SM64, but it's not like I've got much faith in it either.

Ah, a game that had a lower seed than even LttP.
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"What's going to happen to this Planet?"
"Who knows...That's up to you, I guess."

it seems to me we've got six games for five places:

FF7
OOT
CT
LTTP
SMB3
M64

the top 3 are locks, the next two are extremely likely, and M64 is the darkhorse. anything else would floor me.

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xyzzy

Prepare to be floored, baby. Final Fantasy X for the win!

Or maybe Kingdom Hearts or a GTA. Who knows?
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"What's going to happen to this Planet?"
"Who knows...That's up to you, I guess."

if another game sneaks in there, I'll say it's FF10. I can't see GTA or KH at all. or Starcraft.

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xyzzy

I would love to see only OOT as the Zelda game and a Metroid taking LTTP's place. God knows Super or Prime deserves some respect.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

And Slow, yelling at people for the same exact thing you do is pretty stupid, which was the only reason I even brought that up. I had SSBM at... 4 or 5, I believe. You make it sound like the entire board had it at 1 or something.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

The game that sneaks in is obviously going to be FFT >_>

Or maybe it'll be KH or FFX.

By the way, is anyone else having any major issues with lag while browsing the site? It's so bad on my end that I'm actually considering writing an essay that's due in 24 hours as opposed to posting. Damn, who does that?

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

I don't see how SSBM "underperformed" at #6; most everyone had it slotted between 4 and 6. it had the third most predictions in the prediction topic. it's not like it fell from grace, it just happens to be a favourite of the board.

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xyzzy

Yes, but SM64 only had three games from its own system ahead of it seed-wise; LoZ:LttP had four. Also, it's recently been released on the DS so it's audience and recency is boosted (not to mention SM64 itself is still newer and was around longer for its system's life-span than LoZ:LttP). Like I said though, it's not like I have alot more confidence in it than LoZ:LttP; I didn't think either would make the Top Five before this started. However, if LoZ:LttP misses it like I suspect, then SOMETHING has to take its place.....
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

well, you could say the same with the GBA version of LTTP.

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xyzzy

Mario 64 is actually a safe bet, perhaps. I keep forgetting that M64DS exists.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

SSBM didn't do bad at all, no, but its expectations weren't out of reach either. Not many Gamecube games (if any, depending on how ya look at it) could compete with it as THE game of the system, it got to the Final Four in 2k4 as a two-seed (only behind Halo, which surely got that seed on the sole premise of the flawed nomination system), SSBM characters as a whole have impressed this year (from Link to Master Hand), and it's packaged with the systems. It's also the newest game of the Super Seven as well (not counting the pre-ordered LoZ:WW/system-packaged bonus of LoZ:OoT). The x-stats had it at #7 and it had reason to get as high as #3.

So, again, it didn't disappoint, but it had plenty of reason to impress so much more.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

1) Wasn't that sold under a different title? Not sure on that.....
2) SM64DS is newer and much more to the DS than what the remade LoZ:LttP likely was for the GBA.

BEST OF 2004: Best Nintendo DS Game
Feel the Magic: XY/XX 10.02% 3564
Mr. Driller Drill Spirits 2.63% 935
Spider-Man 2 5.46% 1943
Super Mario 64 DS 77.59% 27594
The Urbz 4.3% 1530
TOTAL VOTES 35566

Granted, it went against pathetic competition and the vote-total was low, but this was at the beginning of the DS's life; I doubt that the remade LoZ:LttP was to the GBA what we see here (or would see if it was in another favorite-DS-game poll with newer games today), not to mention also older now.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/data/561559.html

looks normal to me.

I will say that when you put a bunch of launch titles against one of the consensus greatest games of all time, you're going to have a blowout. launch titles are rarely good, plus I doubt most people had played some of those. I would think people who had just played the N64 version and didn't have a DS would have voted M64, too.

SM64DS meant more than LTTP did, that's for sure, but LTTP has at least been shown to a new audience. SMB3, too. (which I think has the best chance to fall out of the top ten, but that's me)
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xyzzy

My bad on the title then; I thought it was retitled.

I'll give ya that it's also known to a new audience now, though I think SM64DS helps SM64 out moreso than LoZ:LttP-GBA helps out LoZ:LttP-SNES.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

though I think SM64DS helps SM64 out moreso than LoZ:LttP-GBA helps out LoZ:LttP-SNES.

I agree with that. M64DS was a launch title, while LTTPGBA was just another game that game out late in the GBA's lifespan.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

The release of Dawn of Sorrow has certainly brought some attention to Symphony of the Night. The hits on my SOTN Bestiary have gone through the roof since DOS's release.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

I'm surprised anyone would dare bring up KH that late in this thing. If it's what goes up tomorrow, I'll die from a heart attack, get back up, raise the WTF flag and proceed to laugh my ass off since I actually picked it. But seriously, I just can't see KH as a top 5 game. Heck, I have a hard time seeing it as a top 10 game - then again, I ran into the same problem for any game that's not in the Super Seven not called FF10. All that's really left is the remainder of the Super Seven, SMW and SM64. And maybe Starcraft for one last huge, titanic shocker. That'd be fun... though I wouldn't really bank on it.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

I'd love to see Starcraft or FFT be the big stunner of the contest.

You have to figure that OOT, FF7 and a Mario title are the only real locks. We may have two surprises left.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
Currently Playing: Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Advance Wars 2

CT is a lock too, though to each their own.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

I'd have CT as a lock long before SMB3. I can't figure FF6 being there but not CT. Not ever.
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Showing me cleavage is like dangling a juicy steak in front of a large dog that hasn't eaten in a month while you tell it to stay put. -BlAcK TuRtLe

At 12:00 PM GameFAQs-time:
Yes, and I've played it with 3 others at once 51.27% 18059
Yes, but I've never played with all 4 11.5% 4051
No, but I used to 6.73% 2370
No, it's not my kind of game 8.81% 3102
No, I never owned a GameCube 21.7% 7643
TOTAL VOTES 35225

The top option has sky-rocketed in the past 15-to-30 minutes, too. It'll be enjoyable to watch this.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Heh, in the last five minute update, SSBM's top option jumped %0.08 (and I think the bottom two dropped a lil' to match).

Yeah, this makes me feel better already about my belief that Kirby rSFF'd Bowser.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Top Nominated Games, by system:

NES:
1. Super Mario Bros. 3
2. The Legend of Zelda

SNES (Square):
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Final Fantasy VI - 10th

SNES (Ninty):
1. Super Metroid
2. Super Mario World
3. Link to the Past

PSX:
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Metal Gear Solid - 8th

N64:
1. Ocarina of Time
2. GoldenEye 007 - 7th

XBox:
1. Halo - 9th

GC:
1. Super Smash Bros. Melee - 6th

PS2
1. Final Fantasy X

We're pretty much assured of seeing the 1's where we've seen the 2's -- FFVII, OoT, and CT are locks. SMB3 is also a *very* good bet, as Mario winning the regular contest and getting his most popular (nomination wise and strength wise) game snubbed is unthinkable. That leaves 1 slot open...

And if it isn't LttP, what is it? KH doesn't have the nomination strength to place this high, and neither does VC and probably SA. FFX is a big longshot...it was outranked by both SSBM and Halo in it's division, it's the 3rd (4th?) most popular FF, and we've already seen the 2nd. SM64 also doesn't seem to have the nomination strength, and we've already seen 007 which was ranked higher. If the orignal Zelda makes it in over LttP I'll explode. That leaves the two games that were seeded higher than LttP in the games contest: SMW and SM.

SMW probably isn't a bad bet, given what Mario has done recently, but this implies SMB3 and SMW ranking right next to each other...and I don't think SMW has as much nomination strength as SMB3. Knock that one off.

Super Metroid, Super Metroid, Super Metroid. The highest seeded Nintendo SNES game, with a 3 overall. Remember how we didn't think 007's 3 seed meant a whole lot? MGS' 4? SM has nomination strength, just like 007/MGS, even if it's easily SFF'd, just like 007/MGS. But a top 5 game?

Maybe. Probably not. But, hey, 007...MGS...games that showed us that they had good nomination strength that we didn't listen to...

But I'd bet on LttP, and if anything other than SM or perhaps SMW upsets it I will be shocked. If only because that means Nintendo would get shut out on it's presumably strongest system.
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pi

Ya know, SM isn't TOO unreasonable, though I say that more out of feeling than logic. I don't know why I feel that way, but, I dunno...it just clicks.

Still puttin' more faith in SM64, but SM wouldn't be half the shocker to me right now to make the Top Five as it would have been it making the Top Ten before lock-down...and I can't explain it.

Weird.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

SSB:M at 6...slightly dissappointing seeing as how I had it at least in the Top 5. (Somewhere with CT and SMB3)
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It's MOOOOOOOLLLTTTAAAARRRR!!!!!!!!!!

FFX is a big longshot...it was outranked by both SSBM and Halo in it's division

Halo doesn't outrank FFX if you cut out StarCraft's stuffing.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

I believe seeding was bein' referred to there.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

If we're talking seeding, the reason why those two games outranked it is more than obvious that I don't even have to say why.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

LTTP for GBA came out in 12/02, right in the middle of the GBA's lifespan. obviously a launch title is better, but I wouldn't call it at the end of the GBA's life. besides, CT is at the end of the SNES's life and that isn't hurting it at all. LTTP for SNES came out in 1991, right near the beginning of the SNES.

I love Super Metroid, but I don't think it has a lot of chance. SM making it means LTTP isn't, and either M64 and M3 isn't as well. it's got less of a chance than FF10 in my mind.
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xyzzy

I was talking seeding. And while it may be obvious for Halo, SSBM had to compete with WW and MP. FFX had VC and KH. Considering that WW and MP both ranked higher than VC and KH, and SSBM still ranked higher than FFX, that's pretty impressive. Consider also that this was a year and a half ago, and FFX's popularity is apparently on a downswing, and I don't see any arguments for FFX taking a spot in the top 5.
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pi

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I'm talking seeding. Contest strength doesn't matter in this particular contest. MP/WW were the 4/5. VC was the 7 and KH the 9.
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pi

True, but those same reasons still work against FFX in this case aren't they? Granted, not so much this time, but the point still stands. Also, for those still hoping for FFX to make the list...

--Seedwise: Halo > SSBM > FFX
--Strengthwise: SSBM >or= FFX >or= Halo (they're all close)
--In terms of FF-seeding: FF7 > FF3/6 > FFX
--In terms of the FF-favorites ladder, FF7 > FF3/6 > FFX
--In the list so far: (FF7 likely at #1), SSBM at #6, Halo at #9, FF3/6 at #10

...just food for thought.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

The word "ranking" keeps throwing me off here.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

With Goldeneye on the list, I'm not too sure if the rest of the list will play out how we expect it to. Sure there will be OoT and FFVII, but I think we could be in for another surprise.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Here's to hoping the surprise is Super Mario 64, Perfect Dark (to prove PD > GE) or our first write-in...Conker's Bad Fur Day. =)
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

It'll be Final Fantasy VIII, baby. It would've been a 3 seed in that division if not for that stupid rule. Bank on it.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

I dunno 'bout #3, but I'd say it could have matched FFT's nomination-support and be stronger in a contest setting.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

Don't shatter my dream here.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

Heh, I'll support your dream again real quick: considering the games released when the Game Contest went down, FF8 has my bet for the strongest snub of the contest.
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Serious Reminder: Nominate Jay Solano for 2k6.
Why? He would die in your honor, then come back like Jesus...but without the religion part.

That's the main reason I want another games contest. I want me some FFVIII.
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Raiden: "They said you were dead."
Snake: "No, not me. There are still too many things I need to do."

I'd be more surprised to see FFX in the contest than FFVIII, though I'd be surprised to see both.

But, I guess from now it just goes:
Mario/Mario 3
Mario 65
CT
OoT
FFVII

in some order.
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Mario 65. O_o
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